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[Anonymous No.17261975]

>take the science-pill
>realize life is meaningless

[Anonymous No.17262002]

Read the Drg-Drsya-Viveka.
Or watch this video from Swami Sarvapriyananda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx7O2zDqi6I
It won't get you into any sort of religious perspective, but will make you perceive some stuff that are quite obvious in your own life which will make you "expand" your thought beyond this blackpill.

[Anonymous No.17262006]

>>17261975
KEK OP, check this passage out of a Philosophy textbook (Voyage of Discovery) talking about William James:

James recorded his struggles in a diary entry writ- ten in 1870, when
he was twenty-eight and one year out of medical school. He apparently
found relief from his torments in the form of a decisive philo- sophic
commitment of the sort that Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, and Dostoevsky
would have appreciated. James resolved that if he was to go on living
and find any sort of meaning at all in life, he would have to commit
himself to the thesis that free will is not an illusion and base his
actions on that conviction:

My first act of free will shall be to believe in free will… . I will
go a step further with my will, not only act with it, but believe as
well; believe in my individual reality and creative power… . Life
shall be built in doing and suffering and creating. 5

Although this was a turning point in his life, it would be a mistake
(and some have made this mis- take) to suppose James is simply saying,
“Believe what you find it pleasant to believe,” without any further
qualifications. Certainly, when logical or empirical considerations
can decisively resolve an issue, James would say our beliefs must be
subservient to reason and the facts. However, he says that in some
issues of vital importance logic and science do not clearly guide us
one way or another, because the objective facts are consistent with
different interpretations. In these cases, James offers us the
following rule:

Of two competing views of the universe which in all other respects are
equal, but of which the first denies some vital human need while the
second satisfies it, the second will be favored by sane men for the
simple reason that it makes the world seem more rational. (MT preface)

[Anonymous No.17262011]

>>17261975
>take no pill at all, simply live
>reach age 14
>realize life is meaningless
>now 21, still haven't found a solution to the problem, no purpose, nothing to do in life
that's just life, no pills needed

[Anonymous No.17262026]

>>17261975
>muh meaning
Can we stop with this meme already please? Life having no meaning is yet another meaning. You give life meaning whether you like it or not.

[Anonymous No.17262037]

>>17261975
Coward

[Anonymous No.17262048]

>>17261975
Science ans logic proves God.

[Anonymous No.17262053]

>>17262048
A God maybe, not the Christian god.

[Anonymous No.17262057]

>>17261975

[Anonymous No.17262062]

>>17261975
Read Camus

[Anonymous No.17262064]

>>17261975
Science is for dorks

[Anonymous No.17262080]

>>17262048
deistic god. and life is still meaningless, and nothing happens when you die

[Anonymous No.17262091]

>>17262002

Take the Vedic-Science-pill, anon.

“The sun has tied Earth and
other planets through attraction
and moves them around itself as
if a trainer moves newly trained
horses around itself holding their
reins.” (Rig Veda 10.149.1)

“O Indra! by putting forth your
mighty rays, which possess the
qualities of gravitation and
attraction-illumination and
motion – keep up the netire
universe in order through the
Power of your attraction.” (Rig Veda 8.12.28)

“The sun moves in its own orbit
but holding earth and other
heavenly bodies in a manner that
they do not collide with each
other through force of attraction." (Rig Veda 1.35.9)

“Sun moves in its orbit which
itself is moving. Earth and other
bodies move around sun due to
force of attraction, because sun is
heavier than them." (Rig Veda 1.164.13)

“The sun moves in its own orbit
in space taking along with itself
the mortal bodies like earth
through force of attraction.” (Yajur Veda 33.43)

“The sun has held the earth and
other planets” (Atharva Veda 4.11.1)

“The moving moon always
receives a ray of light from sun” (Rig Veda 1.84.15)

“O Sun! When you are blocked
by the one whom you gifted your
own light (moon), then earth gets
scared by sudden darkness.” (Rig Veda 5.40.5)

[Anonymous No.17262100]

>>17261975
>take the life affirmation pill
>realize science is fake and gay and naught but parlor tricks for the feeble minded

[Anonymous No.17262105]

>>17261975
If you think B follows from A, then you do not know what science is.

[Anonymous No.17262108]

>>17262002 (You)

Take the Vedic-Science-pill, anon.

“The sun has tied Earth and
other planets through attraction
and moves them around itself as
if a trainer moves newly trained
horses around itself holding their
reins.” (Rig Veda 10.149.1)

“O Indra! by putting forth your
mighty rays, which possess the
qualities of gravitation and
attraction-illumination and
motion – keep up the netire
universe in order through the
Power of your attraction.” (Rig Veda 8.12.28)

“The sun moves in its own orbit
but holding earth and other
heavenly bodies in a manner that
they do not collide with each
other through force of attraction." (Rig Veda 1.35.9)

“Sun moves in its orbit which
itself is moving. Earth and other
bodies move around sun due to
force of attraction, because sun is
heavier than them." (Rig Veda 1.164.13)

“The sun moves in its own orbit
in space taking along with itself
the mortal bodies like earth
through force of attraction.” (Yajur Veda 33.43)

“The sun has held the earth and
other planets” (Atharva Veda 4.11.1)

“The moving moon always
receives a ray of light from sun” (Rig Veda 1.84.15)

“O Sun! When you are blocked
by the one whom you gifted your
own light (moon), then earth gets
scared by sudden darkness.” (Rig Veda 5.40.5)

[Anonymous No.17262126]

>>17261975
Are you retarded OP? You give meaning to your life; maybe you want to dedicate your life to contribute something to society, then the meaning of your life would be "contribute to society". Maybe you want to have a family, then family would be the meaning of your life, maybe you want to dedicate yourself to a hobby, I don't know man, there are many things to enjoy in this life, if you don't know where to begin you should start doing things randomly until something clicks with you.

[Anonymous No.17262142]

>>17261975
Now anons will start speaking either about God or giving life its own meaning. It's all a cope for the absurdity of existence. Take a leap of faith out of spite and accept the existentialist pill anon.

[Anonymous No.17262148]

>>17262142
>It's all a cope for the absurdity of existence.
this is my conclusion as well. we are bacteria that accidentally grew intelligent enough to ask absurd questions

[Anonymous No.17262160]

>>17262148
You biologically were made to cope with death. Keep coping with it and die, as absurd as it sounds it's the only known way to lead a happy and fullfilling life.

[Anonymous No.17262483]

>>17261975
>realize life is meaningless
welcome to the real world little boy

[Anonymous No.17262491]

>>17262108
why didn't Indians conquer the world?

[Anonymous No.17262495]

>>17262011
>stagnation pilled

[Anonymous No.17262527]

are nihilists unironically retarded? if life is meaningless then just create meaning yourself

[Anonymous No.17262555]

>>17261975
>take the philosophy pill
realize life has meaning and God is good

[Anonymous No.17262576]

>>17261975
>take no pills
>oh no it's happening again
do be like that

[Anonymous No.17262589]

>>17262142
>>17262148
>>17262160
word
you guys should read "Denial of Death"

[Anonymous No.17262599]

That's how I describe cough syrup!

[Anonymous No.17262680]

>>17262527
I am unable to fool myself

[Anonymous No.17262700]

>>17261975
Science doesn't try to give prescriptions to life anon. Its not its goal.

If you want more meaning look into Philosophy or God.

[Anonymous No.17262716]

>>17261975
How does the science pill lead to this realization?
Spell it out for me play by play because I've taken the science pill myself and feel no such thing, nor do I have any mushy hyperindividualist sense of "you decide the meaning!" Or any such retarded millennial nonsense.

[Anonymous No.17262728]

>>17262011
Wtf you are literally me, except I got the existential crisis when I was 11. My first cope was deluding myself that I will etch my name in history and therefore my life would matter, which of course makes no sense at all. I won't say I am slowly figuring out the solution, but I do feel like I am at least going somewhere.
>>17262126
>Are you retarded OP? You give meaning to your life
Why should you if your life is meaningless?
>>17262148
retard
>>17262680
"Fool" is an inappropriate word here, but I definitely feel something like this. To "decide" on a meaning is easy, but to actually live it is very hard. The force of a mere decision is not enough to sustain you on your quest for a meaningful life.

[Anonymous No.17262729]

>>17262716
Not OP but for me you learn that the bible makes tons of unfounded claims that contradict modern science, and it seems like science has a better method of determine descriptive truths than the bible (ie, how old is the earth?)

For me religion just feels like a lot of superstition supported by our caveman instincts that helped us survive in the wild but don't help us determine truth about reality.

[Anonymous No.17262730]

>>17261975
Make a meaning of it or kys. I don't care which

[Anonymous No.17262749]

>>17262729
>>17262716

[Anonymous No.17262756]

>>17261975
Don't worry, fren. We all eventually ascend from nihilism to affirmation.

[Anonymous No.17262771]

>>17262749
>grug based.

[Anonymous No.17262802]

>>17261975
Actually OP, it is only by being both a scientist and a believer that you can know everything

[Anonymous No.17262872]

>>17262729
So you've got this idea that if the bibles claims are unfounded, or unfalsifiable, then life has no meaning?

[Anonymous No.17262886]

>>17262802
Your meds pal

[Anonymous No.17262972]

>>17262872
It at least means any claims of life's meaning from the bible are untrue. Doesn't mean there couldn't be any meaning but you couldn't find it from that book directly.

Personally imagining life like an RPG where your grinding stats to gain wealth and be able to do cool shit motivates me to work towards a better future.

[Anonymous No.17262987]

science promotes meaning, though hollow, and doesn't address philosophical underpinnings, how did you come to that?

[Anonymous No.17264134]

>>17261975
Meaning is entirely subjective and you can create yours, OP. It might sound like a cope but it really isn't. Alternatively, if it's your cup of tea, you might seek religion, but avoid shit like this >>17262108 that tries to "prove" its validity by cherrypicking its scripture to accomodate scientific theories that aren't meant to be dogmatic truths in the first place.

[Anonymous No.17264185]

>>17262006
>in some issues of vital importance logic and science do not clearly guide us one way or another
Free will isn't an issue of that kind. Throughout history, it has become increasingly obvious that the very notion of "free will" is chimeric. As Nietzsche put it, you would have to bring yourself in existence out of nothing in order to truly be responsible for your actions and your constitutions, but nobody has that kind of divine power. Everything you do is a result of your genes and of the circumstances in which you find yourself.

[Anonymous No.17264191]

>>17264185
I was thinking mainly about the second part of it.

[Anonymous No.17264198]

>>17264185
>Of two competing views of the universe which in all other respects are
>equal, but of which the first denies some vital human need while the
>second satisfies it, the second will be favored by sane men for the
>simple reason that it makes the world seem more rational. (MT preface)

[Anonymous No.17264209]

>>17262108
What the fuck? Is this true? Did the Indians not only know about heliocentrism, but also knew that the Sun was itself revolving around the center of the galaxy? Didn't it take a long time after Copernicus for us to get that far in the West?

[Anonymous No.17264217]

>>17264198
The competing views about free will are by no means "equal". One makes sense (there is no free will), the other doesn't.

[Anonymous No.17264224]

If you refer to anything as a pill you can go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.17264232]

>>17264224
When your girl tells you her period isn't coming you're gonna regret that attitude.