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Is stoicism a good philosphy unironically?

>> No.17252106

>>17252076
>here we go again on the daily thread made by illiterate anglos who cannot distinguish eontology/epistemology from ethics

>> No.17252132

discount Peterson

>> No.17252160

They got some shit right. But Diogenes-to-Cioran-to-Zhuangzi is the only true path

>> No.17252176

>>17252076
I've found it useful. That said, I don't know much about philosophy other than that it says that the universe is made out of water.

>> No.17253910

>>17252076
Cope philosophy. It's very useful especially if your life currently in shambles.

I read philosophy solely for entertainment, and the stoicism books I read as far as I concern are okay.

>> No.17253913

>>17252076
It's reddit.

>> No.17253943
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17253943

S’okay. Epicureanism is where it’s at.

>> No.17254060

>>17252076
pre good desu
existing feels easier after applying some stoic principles to life

>> No.17254131

>>17252076
It's good. The people who don't like it fall into one of four camps.
1. Larping intellectuals who dislike it because of it's accessibility and popularity with the masses.
2. Philosofags who fixate on some metaphysical aspect of the philosophy and use it to discard all the practical aspects of it
3. Retards who misunderstood it and think it turns you into an emotionless husk.
4. Retards who haven't read it

>> No.17254201

>>17253943
Seneca certainly quotes him a lot.

>> No.17254475
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>>17252076
fuck stoicism
take the epicureanism pill

>> No.17254485

>>17252076
>>17252106
>>17252132
>>17252160
>>17252176
>>17253910
>>17253913
>>17253943
>>17254060
>>17254131
>>17254201
>>17254475
Cringe. Read Nietzsche.

>> No.17254501

it's the only one i've really enjoyed because it's the only one that felt practical and actually changed the way I felt and acted. i think of the stoics as ancient self-help gurus

>> No.17254502

>>17254485
Why would I take someone who got filtered by Stoicism seriously?

>> No.17254511

>>17252076
Daoism is better, but they’re very similar. Anybody serious about daoism should read about stoicism and vice versa.

>> No.17254518

>>17252076
It's been appropriated by redpill and manosphere types, unfortunately. I've read some of the main stoicism authors and most of it just basic bro tier common sense shit. I guess it can't hurt to read it.

>> No.17254861

"You can't be something you're not
Be yourself by yourself, stay away from me"

>> No.17255095

>>17254485
I'm aware of Nietzsche's criticisms of Stoicism; doesn't change the fact that many of the techniques recommended by the Stoics are useful.

>> No.17255809

>>17252076
for you or for your enemies?

>> No.17255815

>>17255809
Does that even make a difference?

>> No.17255828

>>17255815
yes of course. and since you are stupid faggot you are enemy of truth and enemy of God, and enemy of me. So I tell you stoicism is very good, for you, for your friends and relatives, with Stoicism you all will be very cool. Embrace stoicism now, convert, don't waste a minute. Be special! Be unique! Be better than others, than losers!

>> No.17255837

>>17255828
I thought Philosophy wasn't a religion. How do I convert to it?

>> No.17255843

>>17255828
Wow, Jesus, your eloquence has certainly diminished over the millennia.

>> No.17255849

>>17255843
He is obviously a cheap fake. What would you expect out of 4chan?

>> No.17255939

>>17254485
Literally kill yourself.

>> No.17255948

>>17255837
is Stoicism a teaching? Yes/No?

>> No.17255956

>>17255948
I don't care, anon. Don't feel like being more desensitized than I already am.

>> No.17255967

>>17255948
And I'm more of an Epicurism person.

>> No.17255974

>>17252076
If you use reddit, then yeah.

>> No.17256047

>>17252076
Yes

>> No.17256054
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EPICUREANISM: PESSIMAL.

STOICISM: MEDIOCRE.

SENEQUISM: OPTIMAL.

>> No.17256055

>>17255967
As in I fucking try.

>> No.17256408

>>17252076
yeah man check it out haha

>> No.17256465

>>17252076
What does it mean to be "good" in this contest?

>> No.17256495

>>17252076
The second page of Beyond Good and Evil told me it was silly so I'll go with that.