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Let's have another art thread

>> No.1724524
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>> No.1724528

Art is for fags who can't read. End of.

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>> No.1724544

>>1724528
Failed artist here, other way around fool.

Reading is for fags that can't art.

>> No.1724549
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Art *thread*? This is an art *board*. Painting is the lowest "art". Just look at this piece of shit. It was painted by a world-renowned artist and hangs in a respected gallery. This is what painting "connoisseurs" consider high art.

>> No.1724558

Says the tool writing words to be heard. Eedjit. .

>> No.1724562

>>1724549

This.

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Wow, /lit/ is especially butthurt today

Here, have some water lilies

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>>1724528
Art is for those who can really read.

>>1724538
Uh-oh. There's gonna be a fight now.

>>1724549
I don't understand the appeal of most of it, but calling "A Tree in Naples" makes my mind adjust it to see the tree. Its a dark half moon lit night... I'd hang it in my dentists waiting room.

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Max Ernst. My favourite surrealist.

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Henry Wallis - Stonebreaker (1857)

>> No.1724600

>>1724544
Art and reading are for fags that can't music (vast majority of people)

>> No.1724614

>>1724600
only a blind person who cannot read braille would think that

>> No.1724619

>>1724600

We have a winner. True story, here.

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>>1724600
Films top all three. Deal.

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Mutually exclusive art forms are for ignorami.

Kurt Schwitters

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>>1724642
>ignorami
?

Bring it all together into the comic book.
p1/2

>> No.1724652

>>1724635
The ultimate form of art is Opera

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>>1724651
p2

>> No.1724655

>>1724652

The ultimate form of faggotry is opera.

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>>1724635
Absolutely.

It incorporates music, spoken word, and imagery.

>> No.1724661

>>1724655
Do you prefer the lesser forms of faggotry in music, art and poetry?

>> No.1724670

>>1724661

Yes sir, I do. Opera is a strange, now anachronistic vestige of a world of opulent self-indulgence thankfully long since irrelevant. Only the music remains as meaningful - sort of like the words remaining after the typewriter ceases to be relevant.

tl;dr: opera is wtfaggotry.

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>> No.1724675

>>1724544
>Failed artist here

same here man ;_;

>> No.1724678

>>1724670
>Only the music remains as meaningful
Are you not aware that many of the great librettists were also great poets or what

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>>1724652
Where else can one get story, music, and sleep, all in one!?

>> No.1724693

>>1724688

Second only to ballets in Most Peaceful Naps Ever.

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>> No.1724722

My art folder is pretty huge, I'm an art lover.

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>>1724674
>The artist.

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>> No.1724735

>>1724512
>>1724549
>>1724589
>>1724642
>>1724674
>>1724711
>>1724714
>>1724719
So what is the "point" of these exactly?

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Love dat Steadman. I'm just gay for meticulous line work in general, but Ralph holds a special place in my heart for his Alice art.

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>> No.1724754

>>1724735

That would probably take a lot of typing. Do you wanna go in order of their posts, then?

>> No.1724755

>>1724735
It's art. Some people find it's got some kind of aesthetically value because of what it evokes.
What's the point of your post?

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>love for science and art, for knowledge and craft, for concept and form
>find that most people into those things are reasonable and into the others for some part

>go to 4chan
>/ic/ is full of fanart and basic figurative illustration drawings with the same digital techniques and intentions
>/sci/ hates everything not scientific and "useful" in their terms
>/mu/ is pure about shitstorm
>/tv/ is about celebreties
>/lit/, of all boards, doesn't get modern art and has the same immature opinion as /b/tards

I hate this site.

>> No.1724762

>>1724759
Welcome to the planet Earth.

>> No.1724764
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One of my favorite painters with my favorite painting.

>> No.1724766

>>1724759
wow you're just better than everybody!

grow up plz

>> No.1724770

>>1724759

Wahhhh, people on the internet don't appreciate this Jackson Pollock splatterpaint that probably took him like five seconds to make!

>> No.1724773

>>1724755
To find out exactly what is liked about it. I want to "get it" because at the moment I don't "get it".

>> No.1724776

>>1724766
Excuse me for being open minded and actually liking all kinds of art. I didn't want to sound superior to anyone, even though the world keeps proving me to be so.

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fuck tha haters

>> No.1724781

>>1724776
you are still young

>> No.1724783

>he thinks Joyce is art
>he thinks Picasso is ugly

>> No.1724786

>>1724773

Okay, it's cool that you wanna make an attempt to get what the painting's about, but all of those paintings are so different. You could pick one & take a guess & it would probably be viable, because art's what you make of it, brah.

Except for that really weird shit, like where they put paint on a fish & slap it onto canvas a lot of times. I can't help you with that. 2deep4me

>> No.1724790

>>1724773
That's not about intellect. That's about what it makes you think about. Art cannot be "explained" to you so you get the point. Your taste just evolves with you... If you don't get something there isn't anything more to say. Art is about "liking" more than "getting" things. If you like it, ok. If you don't like it , ok too. But finding the point in art is pointless.

>> No.1724796

>>1724783
Well... I think that those two statements are obviously true.
Like if art could be defined so easily or ugliness could not be aesthetically enjoyable...

>> No.1724801

i think many abstract works must be seen in person to fully appreciate them. i could stare at some for hours

>> No.1724803

>>1724790
So a person who likes something cannot make any statement to the effect of why he likes something?

Even as a means to approximate why he resonates with it?

>> No.1724807

>>1724790

I kind of disagree, some genres of paintings can be analyzed like you would analyze a text. Renaissance-period paintings, for instance, have shitloads of symbolism & intentional errors to get the painter's underlying ideas across.

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>>1724766
>>1724735
>>1724781
Shut the fuck up tripfag friends

>> No.1724836

>>1724803
>So a person who likes something cannot make any statement to the effect of why he likes something?
Yes, he can. But you probably won't understand it, it's something "obvious". I find it difficult to explain to people why I like to see dead women, for example.
>Even as a means to approximate why he resonates with it?
Well, it's difficult to understand, but for example, the ones with that helix shape are cool to me because it reminds me of the DNA, and it's made with food. It makes me think about the fact that we are made of food. The one with ribs makes me think about how we are just flesh. The grapes one makes me think about alcohol, blood and Dionysus (party and instincts).

>>1724807
There's narrative on some paintings, I didn't state the contrary, but what makes you think that you like that narrative is because the beauty of what it tells, not the truth of the facts told.

>> No.1724851

>>1724512
what is this painting called?

>> No.1724852

>>1724836
that's pretty much the kind of answer i was looking for

thanks

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>>1724851
File says "Love, 1949"

>> No.1724906

>>1724790
This all the way. And this includes literature, music and all other art. Take cooking as an easy example, people often forget about as an artform. When you eat something, you rarely think "oh the spicy thing is matching the sweetness of this other thing that at the right tenderness create this...", you just like it or not.

Other artforms are the same and, in the end, even if you are tearing one's work apart in the most rational way, your view remains subjective.

I believe different artforms should be appreciated in different ways. Music is abstract, but powerful, literature is very conceptual with nothing to see but to think about, visual art is almost the opposite of that. You have a lot to see, but you can't "hide" things behind words like literature does, so you shouldn't expect that from it.

All arts interact with each other, acting also involves our eyes and our ears, so it's a visual and sonorous artistic form. Literature can be combined with illustration easily, although this clash may hurt both material most of the times. Music with lyrics enters literature, but it's not the same as a poetry that should be read quietly in your home. There is no black and white, no fence dividing all of them.

cont.

>> No.1724908

>>1724906 cont.


It's all about perceiving things and making something out of them and sometimes you can get to new """levels""" of abstraction and thought by taking your time to appreciate a variety of things, new things, bold things. It's easy to learn how to read, it's hard to appreciate literature. Same goes as for the visual field: it's easy to see a realistic drawing and admire the work put into it, it's hard to appreciate other kinds of experimentation.

Painters went from showing things to thinking on how to show them. What's the limit between figure and absolutely nothing? How much of a painting is made of how hard or how easy it was to be done? What is there in a picture that makes it so recognizable? Why does a smiley face look just as happy as an actual smile or maybe even more? How is it possible for us to lie? How is it possible for us to paint 'nothing'? How is it possible for us to create mood without saying a thing? Why do we pretend that this paint and this canvas form the image of a woman when it's all paint and canvas? Who is the artist? These are questions that bothered Velazquez, Monet, Klee, Picasso, Matisse, Magritte, Kandinsky, Mondrian, Warhol, Pollock, Malevich, Duchamp, Dali, and thousands of others that brought artistic exploration to a whole new level. At first, a Picasso may look ugly, childish, too easy and it may actually be those things. But look carefully. Don't quit looking, look closer. Don't say those artists did all that "crazy stuff" for nothing, like many charlatans from all times did. They had something to say, better yet, they had something to show us and if you don't accept that is because you are not looking.

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Patricia Highsmith

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>> No.1724953

>>1724908
Classic elitist attitude, pandering as some enlightened thought.

>you're not LOOKING!
>you just haven't looked; look some more, and keep looking through the looking glass

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>>1724908
>>1724906

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>> No.1724985

>>1724953
It's not elitist because it doesn't imply to be better for anyone. I don't give a fuck whether you look for it or not, but if one wants to understand modern art and stop hating it, that's what I would advice. And really, how could someone hate something one doesn't understand? This, however, I find it to be a low atitude.

Also, by looking I don't mean staring at it until you hear a click in your head. I mean looking into it, learning about it, reading about it, learning about the artists, etc. I bet all of you readers... read a lot right? Same thing. Go to museums, get in touch with art, experiment, reproduce it, much like I know many of you try to write as well. Painting is a marvelous world and I don't mind if it's not of someone's interest, but it bothers me how people reject it as if it was cancer.

>> No.1724989

>>1724953
Elitist attitude? Nah... I AM the one who's got elitist attitude. He's telling you to look. I wouldn't, the highest forms of art were never made for the masses (btw, there's a lot of shit between what today some call "the highest forms of art").

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>> No.1725067

who painted these?
>>1725054

>>1725057

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>> No.1725090

>>1725067
First is John A. Grimshaw

Second is Andrew Loomis, very famous among artists for his books on how to draw effectively. (It's signed and there is also a watermark on it...)

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Not to be a fag but can I contribute with a video? I swear to god it's worth your time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhheiPTdZCw

>> No.1725117

>>1725107
>>1725107

cool video. fucking shitty song though

>> No.1725134

>>1725117
Not to turn this into a music thread but what do you dislike about the song?

>> No.1725135

>>1725107
fuck yeah

>> No.1725140

>>1725107
this is fucking nuts. Know who made it?

>> No.1725146

>>1725117
It's cool, it's not for everyone. Glad you liked the video though.

>>1725140
http://www.themanimator.com/

>> No.1725199

>>1724726
>>1724714
These are my favorites. Anything combining genetics/cell biology and art is a plus in my book. Anybody know the sauce?

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The reality is in this head. Mine. I’m the projector at the planetarium, all the closed little universe visible in the circle of that stage is coming out of my mouth, eyes, and sometimes other orifices also.

>> No.1725245

Hence it comes that all armed prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed prophets have been destroyed

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>>1725199
>>1725199
I was gonna say Craola Simkins, but google proved me wrong. I found out I had seen it once before not in Juxtapoze, but in Hi Fructose. Its Mia Brownell

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>>1725295
That's awesome. Totally looking up everything by her I can now, thanks.

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Otto Dix, Stormtroops advancing under gas.

Banned by nazis for his weak soldiers with fear, they wanted to hide the horrible side of the first world war. The germans were supposed to be superior, not losers

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The black paintings of Goya, all unnamed they were painted in the walls of his last house, when he was very old (70 something).

This paint is supposed to be Chronos eating one of his sons.

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This is far and away my favorite photo partially for personal reasons but mostly not.

I've never been one to go on and on about what art means to me personally but I could honestly write for days about all the different messages I pull from this picture from the way the people in it are facing to the framing and negative space paralleling a thesis of human interconnection but you people would have every right to get tired and stop reading by the second sentence, plus I would feel too self conscious to post it anyway.

Man even the aesthetic quality of the shapes and colors gets me right in the fucking gut. It's honestly beyond words how much I like this photo.

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>>1725332
Please do post. Don't withhold it from us :)

>> No.1725631

>>1725324

fun fact: within the last couple of months, this painting has actually been proven to not actually be a painting of goya himself, but most likely one of his students

>> No.1725635

>>1725631
fun fact: within the last couple of months, this poster has actually been proven to not actually be a normal human being himself, but most likely a faggot

>> No.1725636

>>1725635
someones butthurt about art

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I'm into art brut at the moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRpYIRhG2VI

>> No.1725639

>>1725636
someones butthurt about being a faggot

>> No.1725643

>>1725639
you've got so little going for you that you're annoyed and offended by someone elses random knowledge, must suck to be you. enjoy your bitter and worthless life.

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This is one of my favourites today.

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And since it's Karel Appel's birthday today, let's get some COBRA up in this bitch.

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My dentist has an original Corneille on the wall of his surgery. I ponder that every time I pay one of his bills.

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Can't have CoBrA without Br.

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And the Co, although I don't like Nash's work so much.

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>> No.1725822

>>1725631
Really? And who is that student? Are there anymore paintings done by him?
That was my favourite "Goya" painting, I need to know more about the real author.

>> No.1726306

>>1725340
I'm way too inarticulate to do it justice, but in brief, a few things:

The people represent three wholly different attitudes man has towards to religion: dependence, indifference and curiosity. It's no accident that the man in the the Taqiyah is isolated in his frame and looking in the complete other direction as the other man in the masjid.

It's also no coincidence that you can see a bit of a person's shoulder. It's how you know the guy looking out isn't inside the mosque with the other two but on a balcony which means he doesn't feel obligated to stay within the constructs of his religion, he's literally on the edge of the division between man and god and he doesn't seem to mind where he'll end up.

The person I like the most and actually almost identify with is the man not concerned with closing himself off from the world or giving himself up to it. You might think he's in the middle of prayer but it's generally discouraged to look straight up during prayer. Maybe he's just sort of relaxing and in thought but then you ask yourself what it is the guy is looking at so intensely and why is he standing up? You don't know what this guy is doing, since he seems to be breaking every convention set forth by the other two guys but at the same time you almost want to say he's probably getting more out of being in the mosque at that moment than anyone else ever has or will.

>> No.1726313

>>1726306
At this point I wrote a bunch of stuff about the shapes in the stained glass and how they can serve as symbols of man or god depending on the person being asked but I think I'll stop here to prove that this photo means a lot more to me than I ever would have imagined a photo could before I saw it.

But yeah, art thread round two I guess.