/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17244202]

What was Nietszche like IRL?

[Anonymous No.17244225]

>>17244202
he was an incel

[Anonymous No.17244232]

>>17244202
He was very shy and soft-spoken

[Anonymous No.17244240]

Like, did he practice what he preach? Were men afraid of him and women wanted to be impregnated by him?

[Anonymous No.17244261]

He was a /lit/eral /out/ist

[Anonymous No.17244269]

>Danger and play

What was his danger what was his play?

[Anonymous No.17244328]

>>17244240
T. didn't read Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.17244356]

>>17244328
Another thread in this board was correct. Nietzsche is just a Rorschach test.

[Anonymous No.17244359]

>>17244202
weak, shy, resentful, envious

[Anonymous No.17244372]

mentally ill

[Anonymous No.17244421]

>>17244328
I've read 1 book.

[Anonymous No.17244454]

>>17244202
he was polite

[Anonymous No.17244495]

>>17244225
>celibate
>notorious whoremonger

I know this is a shitpost but people adopting the term 'involuntarily celibate' in what is the easiest era to have sex in in all of human history to the point that some European countries give literal retarded invalids allowances to fuck whores is retarded. The issue is frustration with the clusterfuck that is contemporary dating culture, the downfall of marriage, and the general inability to pair-bond and reproduce. Not penis in vagina.

[Anonymous No.17244614]

>>17244202
He was quiet and soft-spoken apparently.

[Anonymous No.17244618]

>>17244356
[ ] Link said thread.
[ ] Explain it yourself.
[x]Leave everyone wondering what he meant by that.

[Anonymous No.17244633]

>>17244495
Every study done goes against it being the easiest.

[Anonymous No.17244651]

>>17244633
Incel

[Anonymous No.17244703]

Nervous, awkward, and overly polite from what I've read.

[Anonymous No.17244711]

>>17244495
Its really not the easiest, I'm not sure where you're getting that idea.

[Anonymous No.17244800]

>>17244202
I think he asked the same girl to marry him four times and she declined each time.

[Anonymous No.17244962]

>>17244651
The only empiricism we have says it's harder than it has been in decades.

[Anonymous No.17244971]

>>17244202
He was polite and mild, a true gentleman.

[Anonymous No.17244972]

>>17244202
As soon as I read that Nietszche died a virgin I almost immediately stopped wanting to read anything whatsoever. It seems to me that low class dumb people live deeper and more fulfilling lives than any incel would-be intellectual. I think Yukio Mishima talked about the difference between day thoughts and night thoughts. I think he was right and philosophy is what happens when you spend too much time alone, probably at night, thinking. Honestly dude what the fuck even is the point to anything if you can't get laid.

[Anonymous No.17244987]

>>17244972
word

[Anonymous No.17244993]

>>17244972
Night thoughts are the best, though. I tend to feel listless and depressed during most of the day, and then at night all the exciting thoughts come flooding.

[Anonymous No.17245009]

>>17244972
Will be called a coper but what's the big deal about fucking that makes it the differentiator for a "deep and fulfilling life"? Newton never had sex and I consider his life more valuable that 99.999999% of people's, let alone some subhuman 85 IQ dude who fucks nonstop and has 8 kids but dies without thinking a thought higher than basic physical needs ever in his life.

[Anonymous No.17245016]

>>17244993
That's because you're circadian rhythm is out of whack and your life is probably shit. Work out, get laid, take on cool projects (like forming a band, learning to code to make dough, training a fucking dog or someshit) and your life will become infinitely better.

[Anonymous No.17245026]

>>17245009
consequences of modern consoomerist lifestyle

[Anonymous No.17245058]

>>17245009
Listen, I think thinking is how shit gets done. It takes thought to do anything more complicated than wiping your ass after you shit but I have come to fundamentally belief that thinking has a detrimental effect on mental health (aka you get depressed). Now I don't know if it's the thinking in and of itself that's unhealthy or if it's the fact that a lot of nerd-types neglect other aspects of their life but nevertheless I think life is nicer overall if you just do shit with other people. Dumb shit is easier to do since most people are dumb or lazy. Therefore I think living a dumb life is probably more satisfying than being an intellectual (aka you'll be a lot happier and your experience will be more positive).

[Anonymous No.17245065]

>>17245016
I already work out and code. My life's good. I just sleep during most of the day to avoid feeling depressed.

[Anonymous No.17245097]

>>17245065
My point about coding had more to do with making money. Coding in and of itself is just another form of thinking that pollutes your mental wellbeing. Are you getting laid? Are you doing anything with the money you're making or just blowing it on garbage like mechanical keyboards and nice bicycles that you never get to use. Are you using your coding skill to make something that you personally believe is cool?

[Anonymous No.17245113]

>>17244202
Christians liked him. Take that as you will.

[Mountains or Hills No.17245178]

I just remember the story of him yelling at a student with mad intensity after being asked a question regarding something he or Schauppe said.

But he was yelling at the student about the question asked, he was yelling at the student to give him the answer, or whatever.

If I find it I’ll post, it is funny.

[Anonymous No.17245964]

WTF happened to the Virtue thread?
What a fucking shithole.

[Anonymous No.17245983]

without the stache

[Anonymous No.17246040]

>>17244202
Solitary, ascetic, reserved, unobtrusive, deeply introspective, sickly, and self-motivated. Nietzche was plagued by serious health problems that caused him to live an ironically monk like existence. Sigmund Freud's associate, one Dr Parneth happened to know Nietzche personally and said of him:

There is not a trace of false pathos or the prophet's pose in him, as I had rather feared after his last work [Thus Spoke Zarathustra]. Instead his manner is completely inoffensive and natural.
. . . He told me, but without the least affectation or conceit, that he always felt himself to have a task and that now, as far as his eyes [half-blind] would permit it, he wanted to get out of himself
and work up whatever might be in him. . . . He told me that through his physical pains [which were almost constant] he had got
rid of his pessimism—from defiance, in order not to let himself be tyrannized by pain. . . . There are many contradictions in Nietzsche, but he is a thoroughly honest human being, full of the
most powerful strength of will and striving. . . . He is completely convinced of his mission and of his decisive importance. In this faith he is strong and superior to all misfortune, physical suffering,
and poverty. Such a contempt for all instruments of success, such freedom from all that smacks of cliques and advertising, is impressive."

Freud himself--who mind you psychologically interviewed the elite of Europe for a living- "several times said of Nietzsche that he had a more penetrating knowledge of himself than any other man who ever lived or was ever likely to live."

Source:
http://www.walterkaufmann.com/articles/1960_Freud_Tragic_Virtues.pdf

[Anonymous No.17246115]

>>17245058
If you think happiness to be the greatest virtue, then just be dumb.
It is more meaningful in life to struggle.

[Anonymous No.17246189]

>>17244972
>It seems to me that low class dumb people live deeper and more fulfilling lives than any incel would-be intellectual.
>Honestly dude what the fuck even is the point to anything if you can't get laid.

A small and pitiable man!

[Anonymous No.17246647]

>>17244202
Probably very yippie skippie and annoying. Dark and serious but because he was really neurotic and couldn't focus, not a brilliant architect of thought. Crazy intelligent, emphasis on crazy. Spent his whole life running from himself and people probably thought he was weird.

[Anonymous No.17246656]

>>17244495
>people are having less sex now than any time we've recorded it because it's the easiest time to have sex ever!

[Anonymous No.17246663]

>>17246656
this is schizo tier delusion

[Anonymous No.17246691]

>>17246663
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/
>Since 2008, the share of men younger than 30 reporting no sex has nearly tripled, to 28 percent. That’s a much steeper increase than the 8 percentage point increase reported among their female peers.
This was in 2018, I wonder what it would be for 2020 in quarantine?

[Anonymous No.17246704]

Anyone remember where Nietzsche critiques the concept of artistic and political movements?

[Anonymous No.17246976]

>>17244972
Genuinely pathetic

[Anonymous No.17247008]

>>17244972
>>17245058
monkey brained simpleton

[Anonymous No.17247029]

>>17244972
>Honestly dude what the fuck even is the point to anything if you can't get laid.

oh dear

[Anonymous No.17247051]

>>17244202
Post the wagner simping quote.

[Anonymous No.17247147]

>>17246691
Getting sex *is* much easier than it used to, but zoomers are antisocial fucks so they don't take advantage of it

[Anonymous No.17247166]

>>17247147
Many theories bro

[Anonymous No.17247172]

>>17245058
If the only goal in life is to be happy why not just do heroin for the rest of your life until you die?

[Anonymous No.17247182]

>>17247147
The average zoomer is a kid, retard. The studies are about adults, going back to early millennials and late gen x.

[Anonymous No.17247188]

>>17247182
shut up your theory is retarded

[Anonymous No.17247207]

>>17244972
The only reason you would do that is because you went in with the expectation that either Nietzsche was going or not going to align with a certain belief system you already hold, or that he was supposed to change your life in some way. The only reason you think like that is because you still operate under the system of alignment and dissertation. You find something attractive because you know it will aid you in your process of accumulating power in whatever form it may be, and then you synthesize it (or not) and become anew. This appears to be positive and affirming, but in reality, you are doing this all subconsciously. As soon as you have a gut reaction to something, you participate in this system of yours. You might say that you like are certain thing, but that you dislike a certain thing - you do this not because you truly feel a certain way but because you are rowing yourself through the waters of social interaction. You must reach a point where the water becomes a mirror that you drown yourself in, and then you can actually act on your own whims and be an individual. You view everything as both atomized and absolute. Once you get there, you will either stop making gay bait posts or make them with more effort.

[Anonymous No.17247208]

>>17247188
>>17247147
holy mother of cope

[Anonymous No.17247212]

>>17244202
He did Salah 5 times a day.

[Anonymous No.17247213]

>>17247208
be less stupid

[Anonymous No.17247220]

>>17245058
You are assuming that its fun and easy for everyone, which isn't the case. What you really mean is that acting on instincts is closer to the primal drive of humanity - that has no effect on whether or not it is a good or bad thing. A 'dumb' life being good is a paradoxical statement, since if you were truly dumb, you wouldn't be aware that your own life was good. The only person that makes such a statement is one who can look from the outside, from the point of their own system of good and bad, and decide that if you happened to regress to a mode where you are more impulsive you would be happier. So really, its not that being dumb = a good life, but not being a coward, being strong, standing up for yourself = a good life.

[Anonymous No.17247225]

>>17247147
>getting sex is easier it's just much harder
What he fuck are you even saying retard, if getting sex was easier celibacy wouldn't be on the rise. My proof is reality, your proof is your ass.

[Anonymous No.17247236]

>>17247188
Literally do a google search

[Anonymous No.17247264]

>>17247225
Your "proof" is finding a correlation and assuming causation without any study to isolate variables.
Neither of us has presented hard evidence but my hypothesis is more intuitive. In older times being married was a requirement to have sex. Now that this requirement is removed, access to sex is easier.

[Anonymous No.17247289]

>>17247147
kek retard

[Anonymous No.17247344]

>>17247289
consider becoming less unintelligent as a goal for the new year

[Anonymous No.17247360]

>>17247264
>Neither of us has presented hard evidence
you are baiting at this point. no one can be this retarded

[Anonymous No.17247364]

>>17247264
Not the previous incel but you need to consider that people beauty standards, both of men and women, raised because of social networks.
People is exposed only to unrealistic beauty models,not only from models but also from normal people. It's hard to see ugly people on Instagram because no one would post here a photo without hiding flaws or putting up a bunch of filters and editings on their photos.
This often translate into getting more attention and thinking you're more valuable while maybe, IRL no one even look at you. This affect both men and women, it's just that men suffer more than women on this.

Also, not having sex is raising on women too, the percentage is lower because they're privilegiated but still raising.

[Anonymous No.17247367]

>>17246115
cope

[Anonymous No.17247375]

>>17247360
quoting things out of context makes them seem really stupid, who would have thought

[Anonymous No.17247379]

incels should just be killed by the state

[Anonymous No.17247382]

>>17247364
That doesn't make sense to me. You can have higher standards only if you are handsome yourself. The rest have to compromise.
And most people don't even use dating sites so that doesn't help us understand broader trends.

[Anonymous No.17247563]

>>17247147
>>Getting sex *is* much easier than it used to
for sluts

[Anonymous No.17247567]

>>17247563
what’s wrong with being a manslut?

[Anonymous No.17247598]

>>17247567
The degradation of your eternal soul, loss of the ability to pair bond, etc.

[Anonymous No.17247630]

By many accounts he was a pretty gifted person.

>In 1867, Nietzsche signed up for one year of voluntary service with the Prussian artillery division in Naumburg. He was regarded as one of the finest riders among his fellow recruits, and his officers predicted that he would soon reach the rank of captain. However, in March 1868, while jumping into the saddle of his horse, Nietzsche struck his chest against the pommel and tore two muscles in his left side, leaving him exhausted and unable to walk for months.[67][68] Consequently, he turned his attention to his studies again, completing them in 1868. Nietzsche also met Richard Wagner for the first time later that year.[69]

So he was physically fit as well as mentally sharp.

The propaganda that has been written for or against him is hard to disentangle. I think a good deal of the "incel" stuff comes from his ideological enemies. The Christian establishment often smeared controversial thinkers.

[Anonymous No.17247657]

>>17246656
This is unironically true

[Anonymous No.17247750]

>>17246656
it is easier to have sex. men just generally want sex less as there's porn etc

[Anonymous No.17247754]

>>17245983
This is actually him without the stache as a young man.

[Anonymous No.17247756]

>>17244972
>Honestly dude what the fuck even is the point to anything if you can't get laid
Honestly dude what the fuck even is the point to anything if you can't get heroin

t. degenerate

[Anonymous No.17247783]

>>17246115
cope

[Anonymous No.17247798]

>>17247783
nope

[Anonymous No.17247807]

>>17245058
>I have come to fundamentally belief that thinking has a detrimental effect on mental health (aka you get depressed)
Have you ever thought that maybe you are like this because your soul or "essence" is fucked and you have bad thoughts.
As much as negative thoughts can influence how you feel, positive thoughts have the contrary effect.

Simply numbing yourself and dumbing your mind down is to renounce living like a human.

[Anonymous No.17247820]

>>17247756
Change before its too late

[Anonymous No.17248313]

>>17244972
There is some truth to these words. Philosophy is a sign that life on it's own is not providing.

[Anonymous No.17249338]

Bump

[Anonymous No.17249349]

>>17244202
gay

[Anonymous No.17249630]

>>17247630
Fake and gay. He was nearly blind and almost diedd climbing onto his horse

[Anonymous No.17249827]

>>17244972
>>love virginity at 16
>>party, make friends
>>had plenty of girls
>>don’t invest or think too much
>>uh-oh “30”
>>no degree
>>no rich family
>>the bohemian Faustus transaction
>>now 35
>>single
>>no friends
>>works in a grocery store in hometown
>>where he is only known now for his lack of contribution and increasing marijuana use.

True story.
Hedonism is stoicism, minus the fucking rock of cope to crawl under.

[Anonymous No.17250106]

>>17247264
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.17250142]

>>17250106
inhale my penis

[Anonymous No.17250344]

>>17247382
Have you never met people who are really arrogant or a narcissist? Thery don't compromise for anything. They'd rather go with out than "lower themselves" to a level they think they're above.

[Anonymous No.17250427]

>>17245058
look
the human being is in contact with reality through four Windows. Feeling, thinking, sensual experience and deep imagery and intuition. The problem of our way of living is the way that thinking i.e. the intellect has taken over everything.

Do you ever notice that people make decisions based on supposed "rational" thought but never consider how they are feeling about it or what imagery comes up inside of them?

That's why y'all are unfulfilled and that's why society is slowly but surely collapsing. People shut out almost all of their whole being and wonder why it isn't fulfilled.
Its because your thoughts alone are unable to grasp reality correctly and thus every decision made based on thinking alone leada to misery and failure.

[Anonymous No.17250470]

>>17250344
So the what is the argument here, that dating sites increase beauty standards but also make people more narcissistic and unwilling to settle with people on their league?

[Anonymous No.17250487]

>>17250427
The Intellect is how you figure out shit, spare us your guru nonsense.

[Anonymous No.17250817]

>>17247264
Oh okay so you're just a giant pseud who throws out words without understanding what he's saying. There is not correlation or causation between it being harder to have sex and there being less sex had, they're the exact same thing. How much sex is had is a measure of how hard it is to have sex. If I was trying to be explanatory then you'd be right, but I'm not. You're just a babbling reddit retard who see he's wrong and stats screaming "DURRRR IM A RETARD CORRELATIN DURR IM A RETARD CAUSATION DURRR". No, retard, you're just wrong.

>>17247375
Please, read the article and explain to me how the context of the quote changes its meaning from how I used it.

[pipquo No.17250887]

>>17250487
snake

[Anonymous No.17250954]

>>17244202
A beta bitch boi who got will to powered on by his sister.

[Anonymous No.17252469]

Bump

[Anonymous No.17252479]

>>17250817
heres an idea
instead of autistically debating for hours about whether or not people are having sex, why not go out and try to have sex

[Anonymous No.17252565]

>>17244972
Quality bait honestly

[Anonymous No.17252743]

>>17247147
>but zoomers are antisocial fucks so they don't take advantage of it
If they were antisocial they would most likely take advantage of it.

[Anonymous No.17253177]

>>17250954
>who got will to powered on by his sister
liberal kikes*

[Anonymous No.17253486]

>>17244202
Deeply disturbed in the head

[Anonymous No.17253493]

>>17253486
in other words he was based

[Anonymous No.17253598]

[Anonymous No.17253670]

>>17244202
apparently he was that passionate professor that everybody loves in the class, and he was the polite and soft-spoken type among his friends

[Anonymous No.17253703]

>>17244972
There is some truth to this, but the point is life requires balance. Don't retreat into books as a substitute for real life, but at the same time, there are plenty of authors who lived great lives outside of books and used reading to their benefit. If anything is a mistake here it's putting too much emphasis on oblique systems of philosophy for happiness rather than acknowledging them as just one part of the complexity of life, and keeping a sense of other important things in life like family, friends, health too.

[2k CHAD No.17253714]

>>17247264
>In older times being married was a requirement to have sex
Heh

[Anonymous No.17253764]

nigga balance