/sffg/ Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.17220456]

"To Overthrow Wicked Heights" Edition

Previous Thread: >>17211800 (Cross-thread)

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[Anonγmous No.17220476]

Asking again, tranny-fucker-schizo fuck off, what is some chinkshit from yesteryear i.e. written pre-internet?

[Anonymous No.17220502]

Behold a new Christ
Behold the same old horde
Gather at the altering
New beginning, new word
And the word was death
And the word was without light
The new beatitude
Good luck, you're on your own
Blessed are the fornicants
May we bend down to be their whores
Blessed are the rich
May we labor, deliver them more
Blessed are the envious
Bless the slothful, the wrathful, the vain
Blessed are the gluttonous
May they feast us to famine and war
What of the pious, the pure of heart, the peaceful?
What of the meek, the mourning, and the merciful?
All doomed
All doomed
What of the righteous?
What of the charitable?
What of the truthful, the dutiful, the decent?
Doomed are the poor
Doomed are the peaceful
Doomed are the meek
Doomed are the merciful
For the word is now death
And the word is now without light
The new beatitude
Fuck the doomed, you're on your own

[Anonymous No.17220505]

>>17220476
Tranny

[Anonymous No.17220507]

>>17220476
fpwp

[Anonymous No.17220525]

>Shera is a twisted fucking psychopath who can join this elite assassin group just because
>Shera develops a male crush just because
all this filth feels like unnecessary checkmarks to tick off for a story
females written by females normally suck to read about because females are fucking BORING and uncreative
females written by males are normally females written AS males lawl
truly
undoubtedly
makes the noggin go a joggin
i've been skimming some bits hard to carry on faster and get to Calder Book #2. At least the characters aren't as tryhard

on an unrelated thought that I'm not sure how to express adequately
can something popular or at-the-forefront be genre-defining?
i believe this stems from a belief that The Best(TM) of any certain category of entertainment(?) would never exist at the very top

[Anonymous No.17220532]

>>17220447
>>17220419
>>17220458
It's actually more likely that Dûnyain are a scrapped Nonman project in an effort to reach the Absolute and escape damnation

Proofs:

1. The word Dûnyain itself is Nonman in origin. Tons of characters say this.
2. Kellhus could easily speak to the first Nonman he met, indicating that all Dûnyain shared the original Nonman tongue.
3. Nonmen bred the Emwama over thousands of years. Good evidence that they probably started breeding the Dûnyain as well.
4. Ishuäl was literally built by the Nonmen, modeled after their own mansions.

The only sane Nonmen we meet in the series are perfectly aware of the nature of reality, referring to the gods as "principles" instead of deities, so they were probably breeding superhumans that could literally think their way out of this mess. Since Nonmen had no women at that point, they had to breed humans instead. Then the Apocalypse happened, and they had to send off their human guinea pigs to Ishuäl to hopefully continue their work and find a solution to the problem of eternal assrape by demons.

[Anonymous No.17220551]

HOW
I HATE
THIS THREAD

[Anonymous No.17220557]

>>17220525
Honestly, don’t even read the shera books. Calder is at least readable.

[Anonymous No.17220574]

>tfw ywn witness quya mages at their peak
>tfw the second apocalypse is just a watered down version of the first apocalypse
>tfw soon there will be nothing left of the nonmen
>tfw haven't even looked into the inverse fire

[Anonymous No.17220576]

Within days, it seemed, the entire Thread had set aside its scruples and fell to their grisly Bakkerposting with relish, even celebratory enthusiasm. ... The immeasurable Sanderfags, which had been the object of so much foreboding and terror, became small with hilarity and devious wit. At the latrines they traded jokes about black seed and damantion.

The Bakkerfags of the Thread feasted. They slept with sated bellies, with the assurance that their shitposting needs had been secured. They awoke drowsy, without the dull and alarming hollow of starvation...

And a wild vitality crept through their veins.

[Anonymous No.17220578]

>>17220551
based architect and black seed

[Anonymous No.17220582]

>>17220557
If anything, I may just read his 2 and 3 then go back to hers in the future if I get curious about plot stuff. Not like we'll get more EE any time soon so no impetus to rush.

[Anonymous No.17220590]

>shilling a book this hard
>by spoiling the fuck out of it
Retarded faggots

[Anonymous No.17220596]

>>17220532
Good points. I believe you, anon
Based Nonmen using mon'keighs as guinea pigs to find their own way out of the Pit.

[Anonymous No.17220603]

>>17220525
i believe this stems from a belief that The Best(TM) of any certain category of entertainment(?) would never exist at the very top

dumb belief

[Anonymous No.17220606]

>>17220590
um acktually science says spoilers increase your enjoyment of a book! Besides you will forgot all these spoilers by the time you read it unless you intentionally try and remember them

[Anonymous No.17220631]

>>17220606
>you intentionally try and remember them
um acktually science says involuntary recall occurs more often than voluntary so consider not posting spoilers and spewing misinformation, you dumb faggot
not the guy you replied to

[Anonγmous No.17220649]

>>17220505
>>17220507
tranny fucker

[Anonymous No.17220655]

>>17220649
only in thailand

[Anonymous No.17220657]

“We pondered you, says the most crocodilian of the Sons.
“But I have never been here.”
You said this very thing, it grates, seizing the line of the horizon, wrapping him like a fly. Legs click like machines of war. Yesss …
And you refuse to succumb to their sucking mouths, ringed with one million pins of silver. You refuse to drip fear like honey—because you have no fear.
Because you fear not damnation.
Because there is a head on a pole behind you.
“And what was your reply?”
"The living shall not haunt the dead.”

[Anonymous No.17220678]

Is literary SF the ultimate midwit filter?

[Anonymous No.17220686]

Ajencis = Heidegger + Heraclitus + Zeno

[Anonymous No.17220700]

Is /sffg/ familiar with the Galaxy's Edge series? Would you recommend it? I'm not looking for high art, just a competently written space opera

[Anonymous No.17220728]

>>17220678
>literary
>SF

pretty much nonexistant, science fiction writers nearly always have terrible prose and often poor characters

[Anonymous No.17220743]

>>17220728
Delany, Sturgeon, Crowley, and some Silverberg is definitely literary

[Anonymous No.17220756]

>>17220743
never heard of any of them but you might be right

[Anonymous No.17220770]

>>17220728
This is true, but lots of it tries. Michael Moorcock spearheaded a movement to reduce the cringe of sff in the 60s and 70s by pushing a more literary style of writing. He did not realize that genre authors faking literary chops was just double cringe. Anyway sometimes it works, mostly it's horrible.

[Anonymous No.17220777]

>>17220606
>science says spoilers increase your enjoyment of a book!
Because "knowing how it ends" decreases the stress of the unknown. Good job pussy.

[Anonymous No.17220786]

>>17220743
Roll to read something from this list
>0: Engine Summer
>1: The Deep
>2: Little, big
>3: Dahlgren
>4: Trouble on Triton
>5: More than Human
>6: The Man Who Lost the Sea (collection)
>7: The Stochastic Man
>8: Downward to Earth
>9: Dying Inside
Do your part to make sffg a better place

[Anonymous No.17220789]

>>17220456
Why are you posting my house

[Anonymous No.17220794]

>>17220789
Larval detected.

[Anonymous No.17220816]

>>17220728
There's plenty of literary sf, they just pretend it isn't part of the genre if it gets accepted by the broader literary press.

The game really got given away by Ian McEwan's attempt to "better" scifi which led to a bad and instantly forgotten book that had less developed ideas than sf of over a century ago.

[Anonymous No.17220820]

>Getting Filtered by Battlefield Earth

[Anonymous No.17220840]

>>17220786
Rollin

[Anonymous No.17220841]

>>17220476
Read the classics, Journey to the West, Romance and Outlaws of the Marsh all have very readable translations and they have quite a lot taken from them by the modern works.

[Anonymous No.17220860]

So did Anasûrimbor Celmomas the OG get rused when he was having his prophetic dying vision? He thought it was Gilgaöl who was showing him the return of Kellhus, but the paragraph mentions that "Gilgaöl" has 4 horns twice.
Was it Ajokli this whole time?

[Anonγmous No.17220878]

>>17220841
wonderful suggestion, thank you anon

[Anonymous No.17220897]

>>17220878
best tl's are JOTW: Anthony C Yu, Romance: Moss Roberts, Water Margin/Outlaws of the Marsh: Shapiro

Obviously all are better unabridged.

[Anonymous No.17220908]

>>17220786
Rollin Rollin Rollin

[Anonymous No.17220947]

>>17220576
LOOKS LIKE MEAT'S BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS

[Anonymous No.17220957]

>>17220860
ciphrang exist in one simultaneous moment so it’s entirely possible

[Anonymous No.17220959]

What does /sffg/ think of Robert Newcomb?

[Anonymous No.17220960]

>>17220743
No.

[Anonymous No.17220972]

>>17220576
>>17220947
ALL I'VE HAD IS MAGGOTY JORDAN FOR THREE STINKING DAYS

[Anonymous No.17220986]

This book has some pretty interesting ideas but it's written, for want of better description, without any style whatsoever.
To that end, can I get reccs on novels that seem to be fantasy but it is later revealed/discovered that the world the protagonists are on used to be part of a galactic federation that collapsed and their planet regressed to, say, medieval times?

[Anonymous No.17221020]

Is adrian tchaicovsky worth reading? Didn't like a short story/novella of his at all but i'm fucking stumped as for what to read rn

[Anonymous No.17221049]

>>17220960
What have you read of them?

[inb4 No.17221058]

>>17221049
Nothing, I don't even read books. I'm just baiting you guys xD

[Anonymous No.17221085]

>>17220456
absolutely BASED Golgotterath picture.

What do I read next?
>Snow Crash, Stephenson (this would be a reread, but I haven't read this in 15 years). I want some cyberpunk after 2077 took a huge shit
>The Diamond Age, Stephenson. I don't know anything about this, will be going in blind.
>The Ministry of Hope, KSR. I hear this one is pretty hopeful, plus I'm craving something political.
>Revelation Space, Reynolds (another reread, but it's been so long I forgot it). I just remember this one being really dark.

[Anonymous No.17221101]

>>17221020
Depends. The three books I've read by him all had a central idea, executed with not much depth, padded a bit too much which broke the pacing. They can be fun, in a non YA/anime way, I guess.
Children of Time is probably the one I enjoyed the most, for a few cool concepts and one single original idea.
The thing is, he churns out 2 or 3 books a year so there's a bunch to choose from.

[Anonymous No.17221114]

>>17220456
here is some Second Apocalypse heavy metal you never thought you'd need. god I wish the guy recorded it and mastered it better, it's kinda shit desu, but still fun.

https://golgotterath.bandcamp.com/track/womb-plague

>Our people lusted
>For immortality
>We welcomed in practitioners of
>Foul technology

>They promised our salvation
>Granted eternal life
>The price we had to pay
>The Slaughter of our wives

I unironically only listened to The Ruins of Beverast while reading The Second Apocalypse. Remember when that nuke went off in The Great Ordeal? ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTjBSQL5lvU

[Anonymous No.17221129]

Fuck E William Brown

[Anonymous No.17221173]

How can one small nation produce so many great Fantasy authors?

[Anonymous No.17221174]

>>17221114
Metal for fantasy is shit and has always been shit. Creepy premodern settings need either premodern music or creepy synth stuff. Loud, grinding, autistic and soulless metal is bad.

[Anonymous No.17221191]

>>17221174
anon I'm sorry but you are in the fucking wrong. Go listen to Summoning or something. Go listen to Eternal Champion. Caladan Brood. shit..

[Anonymous No.17221199]

>>17221191
No. Metal is modern, loud amplified soulless music.

[Anonymous No.17221236]

sorry fags, /sffg/ is a long haired, pot smokin', satan worshippin', Sabbath and Priest lovin' general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKpJDb2GuQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMMwJxbr-xk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Z1MY1DUZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbxuzslkDZk

> the oath of black seed

>>17221199
> i can't deal with loud noises
> metal is soulless
autist detected

[Anonymous No.17221245]

>>17220456
> Tell me....
> Tell me about Kellhus. Why does he wear the halo?

[Anonymous No.17221256]

>>17221236
>Soulless Journey
Based Taste anon
Hey, that reminds me. Since there's metal based on ASOIAF, Malazan, and now apparently The Prince of Nothing, is there a band based on Terry Goodkind's The Sword of Truth? It seems like a series that would have at least one dedicated group of people making Metal of it. Just want to see it for the banter

[Anonymous No.17221276]

>>17221236
based EARLY Deathspell Omega. yeah dude /sffg/ and metal go hand in hand, do NOT be silly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw4SmoAXwgc

[Anonymous No.17221283]

>>17221276
metal is cringe, take the surfpill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svABrRXAa04

[Anonymous No.17221288]

>>17221283
you nog I like that stuff too. in fact that band is fantastic. I don't just listen to metal

[Anonymous No.17221369]

Strange metal forever. Psychedelic-torment, Bakkerish vibes on these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FCOH_unCoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnjH-ZYe59c
https://cainaband.bandcamp.com/track/drilling-the-spire

[Anonymous No.17221373]

>>17221245
>a lotta loyalty for a damned ordealman

[Anonymous No.17221388]

>>17221369
thanks, I will check these out later. I mentioned Ruins of Beverast, here is some Darkspace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXq6cpCXldk

[Anonymous No.17221396]

>>17221245
>>17221388
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would salt a man, before throwing him to the Sranc.

[Anonymous No.17221586]

[Anonymous No.17221589]

>>17221245
Missed opportunity for "who are the dunyain"

[Anonymous No.17221701]

>>17221586
Is Way of Kings good? The cover is very pretty

[Anonymous No.17221711]

Is there Salvation in the second apocalypse books?

[Anonymous No.17221815]

>>17221711
yeah,
....no.

[Anonymous No.17221836]

>>17220590
All these spoilers have actually made me much more interested in reading Bakker.

>>17221701
Pretty good IMO. Shallan is cringe but the rest is fine.

[Anonymous No.17221910]

>>17221701
yes, unfortunately shallan is a character, and is even more of the book in words of radiance, largely ruining both books. if you can stomach that horrible cancer the rest of the book is fine, stop after words of radiance though, all downhill from there.

[Anonymous No.17222016]

>>17221711
>>17221815
Maybe.

[Anonymous No.17222385]

>>17221586
I get everything but the fish poker, explain like I'm slow.

[Anonymous No.17222637]

>>17221020
Guns of the Dawn is really, really good. The rest that I've read has just been ok

[Anonymous No.17223026]

>>17220786
Rollino

[Anonymous No.17223057]

>>17223026
nice roll, start with the title story, it's short and easily the best. The others are great too, but not on the same level.
http://strangehorizons.com/fiction/the-man-who-lost-the-sea/

[Anonymous No.17223085]

I'm still wondering if anyone here has read the Liavek stories or Nifft the Lean.

[Anonymous No.17223160]

>>17221701
Careful son, you may end up with this cover

[Anonymous No.17223244]

>>17223057
Possibly the best sci fi story ever written

[Anonymous No.17223280]

reading snow crash atm and ngl, kinda cringe

[Anonymous No.17223324]

> famed

[Anonymous No.17223359]

>>17220960
Yes.

[Anonymous No.17223418]

>>17223160
>white background with grayscale + red art
So fucking glad this garbage cover trend is in the rear view mirror. Unironically preferred the awful overwrought painted covers of the 90s to this trash.

[Anonymous No.17223419]

>>17221701
It's quite long. Maybe read Mistborn to see if you like Sanderson's writing, it's much shorter.

[Anonymous No.17223532]

>>17223280
Embrace the cringe as fuel for your journey

[Anonymous No.17223675]

>>17222385
It’s Shallan being annoying.

[Anonymous No.17223680]

>>17220502
Is that Tool or APC?

[Anonymous No.17223689]

>>17223680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDvfbvuJtS8

[Anonymous No.17223690]

>>17221586
Sandaro is a fucking douche bag.

There’s virtually no Szeth in the entire book. He’s the only character I care about. I hope I don’t regret buying book 5 like I did the previous couple of ones.

[Anonymous No.17223743]

Metal is shit.

[Anonymous No.17223756]

>>17223690
Well it'll be Szeth's book and it will unspoiled by previous backstory disclosure. Plus, the prologue viewpoint is gonna be Gavilar. Should be great.

[Anonymous No.17223763]

After Bakker, I got to read the newest Stormlight Archive book, Rhythm of war.

Liked it. Perhaps the weakest instalment in the series. But Sanderson has a talent for writing bombastic and satisfying moments.
Surprisingly the book didn’t feel like 1200 pages. I had trouble with quite a few Characters (Shallan). But I never thought it dragged on for too long, even when Sanderson could have easily cut a few hundred pages here and there.

My problem was, that I had to suffer through 1000 pages of Shallan’s retarded problems, knowing I have to wait for the last pages until she finally confronts her past. Again.
And while Sanderson has a talent for the bombastic moments, when these moments fail, the whole character arc falls flat.
Shallan breaks the oath as a child and kills her bonded Spren? She was a fucking child, and couldn’t possibly realize the consequences of her actions. Why was the Spren so retarded and bounded a child?
Shallan killing her parents, especially her father were great moments. This was just tiresome. The worst thing is, she _still_ has mental issues. Which means in three years I have another thousand pages of this bullshit. Again.

Another Problem is the world itself. Cosmere has over a dozen gods, an unknown number of halfgods(?), Spren with almost godlike powers, artificial weapons with godlike abilities, humans who lived for thousands of years and have unknown abilities, dozens of unknown worlds and interstellar groups of, again, unknown power.
There will never be a moment of true suspense here. The Heroes are never really in control of what they do. There can always be another godlike being right around the corner manipulating the events in a 10000-year masterplan.

I personally like the smaller scenes Sanderson writes.
In the last book it was Teft. In this book I will probably remember the Eshonai and Venli scenes and forget most events with Kaladin, Dalinar and Navani.

[Anonymous No.17223774]

>>17223763
copy paste

[Anonymous No.17224061]

I like fantasy because the protagonists know what they want and their reason of existing, unlike me.

[Anonymous No.17224066]

These threads need to officially include horror in the OP, as it is also speculative fiction.

[Anonymous No.17224099]

>>17224066
Based H.P. Lovecraft and his cat named DO NOT GOOGLE

[Anonymous No.17224108]

>>17224099
I don't think it would draw in that sort of poster. They don't actually like the genre, and horror discussion is pretty sparse on /lit/ anyways.

[Anonymous No.17224126]

>>17224108
Horror is to literature is what death metal is to music. It is good shit but its not for everyone thus its more esoteric.

[Anonymous No.17224186]

>>17224126
Oh anon, horror's not food.

[Anonymous No.17224203]

>>17224186
In horror u are the food

[Anonymous No.17224204]

> Something must be eaten.

[Anonymous No.17224215]

Not gonna lie, former Kellhus voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Kellhus crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the Heron Spear.

[Anonymous No.17224217]

>>17224215
Modified pasta

[Anonymous No.17224234]

>>17224217
No its purely original dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.17224238]

>>17224215
Abomination hands typed this.

[Anonymous No.17224248]

>>17224238
How do you like your Meat, fellow Ordealman? Grilled, spit-roasted, or "a la carte" from the still-quivering flesh?

[Anonymous No.17224432]

>>17224215
*former Zaudunyani

[Anonymous No.17224471]

>>17220700
Space opera? Felt more like operators operating operationally in spess desu. Though only read the first book.

[Anonymous No.17224903]

I don't like Brent Weeks.
I tried reading his edgy assassin books and they were cringe as fuck.
Are the rest of his series as bad?

[Anonymous No.17224952]

>>17224903
The first three books of lightbringer are better.

[Anonymous No.17225002]

>>17220786
Rollaids

[Anonymous No.17225231]

>>17224903
Lightbringer starts off seeming like he's cured, but then the Jade Gates close and he goes off the rails. I couldn't bring myself to finish the series.

[Anonymous No.17225322]

It was just ok. Kind of a cool concept. But a little short. Just as I was warming up to characters, the story ended. The cheesy karate fight scene at the end was needless.

Out of all of Brandon Sanderson's work, THIS is the one you guys recommend to me? He's got like 50 books, and *this* is the one?

[Anonymous No.17225330]

[Anonymous No.17225373]

>>17225322
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the thing I really wanted to mention. And that's how the book is pretty much a giant Soul versus Soulless thread you might read on /v/. Literally
>What is art?
>What's the difference between the real thing and a copy? Soul?
>How does one measure soul?
>Can remasters have souls?
etc.

[Anonymous No.17225375]

>>17225330
Moash is literally Sasuke from Naruto.

[Anonymous No.17225400]

>>17225330
whenever i think hey maybe i'll read book 5, it's a szeth book, surely it can't be as bad as RoW, i think of moash and how he fucking murdered some random radiant woman for no reason, then killed a nice old lady spren who should've been invincible. he's such a shitty writer that i know at some point in the book i'll become inexorably mad and in exchange there might be one or two decent scenes spread throughout the 1200 page tome.

i kind of hope he dies from covid and leaves this whole cosmere mess unfinished. fuck sanderson for wasting my time and squandering the potential he displayed in way of kings, wish i never read it.

[Anonymous No.17225404]

>>17225400
I too have been disappointed.

[Anonymous No.17225425]

>>17225400
>>17225330
Why do people like him and RR Martin insist on writing 10 books of a series. Me personally it detours me from wanting to read because it's either overly long or they never finish so what's even the point?

[Anonymous No.17225433]

>>17225425
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Anonymous No.17225459]

>>17225400
I dropped Rhythm of War during Navani's Stockholm Syndrome episode.

I tried to re-read the same chapter 2 or 3 times and simply gave at how fucking ridiculous it was.

[Anonymous No.17225468]

>>17225425
Bigger = Worse

There are virtually no exceptions to this. The "trilogy" is the perfect medium for longer stories.

[Anonymous No.17225476]

>>17225425
I don't have the answer to your question but it made me think of one of my own: What differentiates ideologies whenever it comes to writing epics? Sanderson and Martin wanted to write these grandiose tales but they interject so much needless filler to the point where you have vast swathes of hundred-page batches where absolutely nothing of significance is happening.
But you have other shit like Malazan where things are always happening and don't ever really stop.
I actually think Malazan does a better job of worldbuilding and using the full scope of its background better than Stormlight.
Take Interludes, for example. Remember when they were "cool things happening hundreds/thousands of miles away"? In RoW, they were all bullshit linear preparation segments for the next Part. You have this gigantic alien world that is... discarded. Forgotten. Left alone to hyperfocus on the same infinitesimally small locations.

[Anonymous No.17225482]

>>17225459
it's really bad, not just as an entry in the series but as a standalone book, multiple scenes are laughably terrible. adolin's whole trial thing was fucking pants-on-head retarded, but you need it because you get that tiny little bit of actual plot progression towards him achieving his desire of wanting to fuck his sword.
as usual everything shallan-related is horrendous and should be cut, but the focus of the book being on navani and her being a traitor for the sake of science is retarded, painful to read and makes me want her character to also die, which is now obviously never going to happen as she's dalinar 2, the re-bondsmithening.

kaladin's whole arc is a disaster, it's literally a repeat of his arc in all of the previous books and it's so fucking tiresome, i'm tired of reading about mentally ill characters that overcome their problems only to succumb to their problems so they can overcome them again, it's fucking exhausting and shitty writing and sanderson should be banned from writing after doing it so many times.

[Anonymous No.17225512]

>>17225482
He has a problem with his Outlining. He completely destroys characters by forcing them into certain plots. There is no freedom inside his stories. Most characters don't feel real.

[Anonymous No.17225571]

>>17225512
yeah this wasn't the case in the first book, it gets substantially worse over time as he course corrects harder and harder into his cosmere bullshit.

[Anonymous No.17225572]

Bakker did a good job making magic scary and intimidating! Many such cases!

[Anonymous No.17225615]

>>17225572
brain disease

[Anonymous No.17225679]

>>17225615
Tranny! Sad!

[Anonymous No.17225688]

>>17225482
I genuinely understand your frustration. It's hard to let go after investing so much in a series.

Just ignore him from now on. Sanderson's only popular at the moment because he writes multiple books a year and has an ongoing series.

There are other good series out there.

[Anonymous No.17225704]

>>17225571
The Cosmere is a dumpster fire. It's actually hilarious that he ever thought he could pull it off in a decent manner.

Not even Tolkein attempted such a retarded thing.

[Anonγmous No.17225721]

>>17225679
>trannyshitposter actually admits to being a bakkerfag
not surprising desu

[Anonymous No.17225739]

Since we're already on this, what do bakker's characters refer to when they talk about the trackless steppe or the trackless void? Is it just gaysex?

[Anonymous No.17225751]

>>17225721
Still a tranny

[Anonymous No.17225769]

>>17220456
Can someone explain me what Lovecraft means when he says cyclopean? Im not sure he means cyclopean masonry rather he wants to emphasize something is big.

[Anonymous No.17225780]

>>17225769
Impossibly large and complex structure of unknown dating and construction.

[Anonymous No.17225785]

>>17225769
really big, old and monolithic.

[Anonymous No.17225793]

>>17225769
One eyed.

[Anonymous No.17225806]

>>17225769

[Anonymous No.17225849]

>>17225739
Free from the bonds of morality and tradition

[Anonγmous No.17225853]

>>17225751
you still want to fuck me, despite me not being a tranny

[Anonymous No.17225863]

Thanks, I haven’t seen the term before reading Lovecraft. Cyclopean seems to be one of his favourite words.

[Anonymous No.17225864]

>>17225769
>bruh, why check a dictionary when you can get the meaning from the context
Lmao

[Anonymous No.17225870]

>>17225425
The word you wanted was deter not detour.

[Anonymous No.17225880]

>>17225849
Yeah, that makes sense.

>>17225864
why would you ever check a dictionary when you can get clarification straight from ur sffg frens?

[Anonymous No.17225889]

>>17224066
Or maybe horror can just make its own threads

[Anonymous No.17225911]

>>17225889
Why? It's speculative fiction just like sci-fi and fantasy, and often overlaps with the two.

[Anonymous No.17225926]

[Anonymous No.17225951]

>>17225880
Because most people on this board seem to avoid checking a dictionary (more so physical media plebs) against their best interests, perhaps because they're too lazy or over-confident in their mastery of the language. It never hurts and you might learn something new.
At 60, Jorge Luis Borges, a guy who understood 5+ languages and is best known for his wordcraft and conciseness, still routinely checked dictionaries and references, even though he knew his first assumption was most likely correct.

[Anonymous No.17225964]

>>17225926
Andalites absorbing nutrients through their hooves is so dumb

[Anonymous No.17225974]

Kindle having an in-built dictionary is nice for looking up words although whenever it can't find a word or has no result, it mentions no 'Wikipedia' results which is odd.

[Anonymous No.17225982]

>>17225951
>At 60, Jorge Luis Borges, a guy who understood 5+ languages and is best known for his wordcraft and conciseness, still routinely checked dictionaries and references
Well there you go. Clearly checking the dictionary is only a habit of intellectual ubermensch and you shouldn't expect it from the kind of cretins who browse this thread.

[Anonymous No.17226126]

>>17225974
its been very helpful since I started BoTNS

[Anonymous No.17226149]

>>17225974
>>17226126

I'm pretty sure you can install multiple dictionaries on Kindle.

[Anonymous No.17226169]

>>17226149
yeah it comes with multiple off the bat as well, atleast mine did

[Anonymous No.17226214]

I like Conphas.

[Anonymous No.17226242]

>>17226169
Kobo as well, but you're forced to use those.

[Anonymous No.17226253]

>>17226149
>>17226169
How do I throw a dictionary on there and have it be searchable when I'm in another book? Or however it works.

[Anonymous No.17226267]

>>17226214
Hes my Nansurian Nigga

[Anonymous No.17226329]

>>17226253
It's some weird file format you might be able to pirate through Libgen or The Pirate Bay, or you can upload it as an ebook and search "All books", which works best for something like Lexicon Urthus if you're reading BotNS. Alternatively, you can switch through the installed dictionaries when bringing up the definition (eg between Oxford and the New Oxford American dictionary)

[Anonymous No.17226340]

>>17226214
Only fuckable character around my age, Id be his cock and toe sucking slave

[Anonymous No.17226372]

>When even your own fan-base shits on you

[Anonymous No.17226385]

Is there a way to contact Bakker?

I think that we should send him a letter, anons.

[Anonymous No.17226392]

>>17226340
Cnaur control yourself

[Anonymous No.17226400]

This shit is so dumb. A whole field of study devoted to deterrence, but nobody thinks to make a trigger with a 1/100 chance of setting off the system each time it's pressed so that you can keep pressing it until the Trisolarans back off.

[Anonymous No.17226475]

Honest question:

Sci-fi novel with a well-written/likeable female protagonist?

[Anonγmous No.17226496]

>>17226385
I guess bakkerfag was a trannyfucker after all

[Anonymous No.17226515]

>>17226392
>the edgy barbarian likes it up the ass
Perfect

[Anonγmous No.17226522]

>>17226475
>well-written/likeable
Mutually exclusive desu

[Anonymous No.17226526]

>>17226385
Who is this fat man?

[Anonymous No.17226550]

Why aren't there more videos of cute soft traps and trannys getting FUCKED by real men

[Anonymous No.17226553]

>>17226496
I'm a bakkerfat and I hate trannies. Don't fall for Consult lies.

[Anonymous No.17226579]

>>17226214
> defect of the womb
What did Kellhus mean by this?

>>17226340
> implying our Lord-and-Prophet isn’t fuckable
enjoy your damnation

[Anonymous No.17226592]

>>17226385
pretty sure he an hero’d
the author, not the fat troon in your picture.

[Anonymous No.17226612]

>>17226496
I’m a Bakkerfag and a literal woman, I also hate trannies with passion.

[Anonymous No.17226650]

>>17226612
t.landwhale

[Anonymous No.17226663]

> famed
> rutting
> meat
> boggling
> trackless
> (x) for (y)
> (z). (Z)!

[Anonymous No.17226769]

>>17226663
Obsessed

[Anonymous No.17226797]

>>17226663
That mother-fucker is the only sff writer I've read that goes out of his way to remind us that burned humans smell like pork.

[Anonymous No.17226813]

>>17226663
>River Sayut
>River Phayus
>River Kiyuth
Naming by Scrabble tiles should be forbidden.
>River Payut

[Anonymous No.17226858]

>>17226797
taste the meat, not the heat

[Anonymous No.17226868]

>>17226663
Hilarious! I'm trans btw :3

[Anonymous No.17226870]

>>17226475
Why would you want that

[Anonymous No.17226889]

>>17225322
>Oh no, I asked for a short taste of Sanderson’s work
>It was too short
Pick up another book. Warbreaker

[Anonγmous No.17226906]

>>17226612
>>17226553
everyone hates trannies, except for one fag who keeps accusing all animeposters of being trannies

[Anonymous No.17226962]

>>17226475
culture novels, last two. the female protagonists are: a whore, and a blank slate with extra arms.
in the first, it has to be female, cuz that's how whores work. in the 2nd, you could literally genderswap the character and it would make no difference.

[Anonymous No.17227082]

>>17226889
Warbreaker is shit, they should just jump into Mistborn or Stormlight.

[Anonymous No.17227106]

>>17225806
He just asked which of those two Lovecraft meant...

[Anonymous No.17227124]

>>17226858
>Did you hear? More shrieking.
I love the crack of those fat teeth in the fire—the sound of something precious heeled.
It burns … burns as a beacon within you.
>But where char meets the fat … that is what quickens!
Your hatred. Your will to tear down, destroy.
>Sweet, yet with the salts of fired life!
It comes as a clawing, I know … A wolven panic.
>The fat seething about the crisping skin … Yes!—it lies in the juice of the beast.
The Meat is obscuring us—can’t you see? Like a cataract of the inner eye.
>And that beard of sizzling froth!
Scratching us into something … too scrawny for human fetters—too quick!
>The way it hangs like spit.

[Anonymous No.17227130]

I'm gay and I love Bakker because everything character is at least bi (just like in irl if you try hard enough amrite) and because women are portrayed as what they are. Thank you based Bakker

[Anonymous No.17227143]

>>17227130
*every

[Anonymous No.17227159]

>>17227130
Consult scum

[Anonymous No.17227217]

I just finished Way of Kings and liked it.

Anyone got a mega of Sanderson's stuff? Too impatient to borrow my friend's copy.

[Anonymous No.17227253]

>>17227130
How long have you served golgotterath?

[Anonymous No.17227306]

>>17227253
I was born that way

[Anonymous No.17227356]

>>17227130
What's your favorite gay hookup in the books?
For me it's Cnaiür and Moënghus. Also Sorweel and Zsoronga. You know the horse-king loved that BZC.

[Anonymous No.17227376]

>>17227217
Just get them yourself.

[Anonymous No.17227379]

What is some coomer fantasy with a female protagonist? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.17227380]

Beware, /sffg/. There are Consult skin-spies in our midst.

[Anonymous No.17227385]

>>17227217
go to /t/ there is a fantasy book collection thread going on

[Anonymous No.17227401]

>character is about to have his head cut open and his brain eaten by a cult
>2 chapters later he's offering his robot doppel a hit of his joint
That went from splatter to Bill and Ted real quick

[Anonymous No.17227408]

>>17227356
Im at last chapters of book 1 at the moment lol. Makes me wonder why is Bakkerbro so pro-gay tho. Maybe because he isnt comfortable writing female characters? What makes a straight man fascinated with potential of old/young master/student sexual attraction. For sure he draws a lot of vibe from antiquity, thats cool. I appreciate the open mindness that didnt flow only in world building direction, he really is a fine creator.

What do you guys think about Nansur Empire, which aesthetics/vibes it has. I vote for Byzantine, with a bit of glory of Roman conquests and Assyrian brutality. Definitely high tier empire aesthetic in my ranking

[Anonymous No.17227489]

>>17227408
Its a fantasy book.
>not real life

[Anonymous No.17227502]

>>17227489
Useless comment, just immersive yourself and craft a better response, thanks

[Anonymous No.17227529]

D'you reckon he got a bite of that bleach-blonde lit-club arthoe peach?

[Anonymous No.17227535]

>>17226372
You've made this exact post several times in the past few weeks.

[Anonymous No.17227546]

>>17227529
I hope not, he can do better. Like me, for example. Im an amateur fantasy writer who needs a tutor, a teacher of these matters, and some others too if need be

[Anonymous No.17227551]

>>17226475
Gideon the Ninth

[Anonymous No.17227560]

>>17227546
post body

[Anonymous No.17227568]

>>17227560
no!!!

[Anonymous No.17227636]

> tfw no qirri

[Anonymous No.17227727]

>>17227529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_JaCb1K6ns

>describes Kellhus as a "meme master"
>pronounces it "maim"

[Anonymous No.17227743]

How does one even write masterpiece such as Bakkerbro's homosexual extravaganza. I can't concieve the subtle unrecognized genius of it! Not merely a matter of honing your skill, this is something above and beyond, plus ultra

[Anonymous No.17227843]

We have been defeated, bros. The Great Ordeal is lost!

[Anonymous No.17227867]

I really liked gay, sex, prostitution and incest in Bakker's Canadian must-read craze

[Anonymous No.17227901]

>>17227867
you forgot alien rape-cannibalism

[Anonymous No.17227908]

>>17225964
Why is that any dumber than mushing food into the far end of your anus and smashing it into easily digestible paste with goo from pores on your mouth and bone like protrusions inside a biomechanical crusher?

[Anonymous No.17227976]

>>17227727
holy shit
I'll just fucking cease to bakkerpost for about a month for sheer cringe at this, god damn.

[Anonymous No.17227987]

>>17227551
reads like serious tumblrcore from the description. how many trannies are in it?

[Anonymous No.17228010]

>>17227976
he has serious autism voice

[Anonymous No.17228112]

>>17226385
Just post it here and I'll see it

[Anonymous No.17228155]

>>17228112
>I
M-master? M-most Holy Author?

[Anonymous No.17228371]

>>17227408
It's actually kind of jarring in-setting because sodomy has always been associated with the Consult (and the Sranc) and the Norserai are famously intolerant of it. You would think that Inrithism would condemn such a thing.

[Anonymous No.17228393]

>>17227908
Ambulatory limbs are load-bearing by definition, and also contact miscellaneous and possibly harmful materials constantly.

[Anonymous No.17228461]

>>17226475
I read a hilarious detective story about an Eastern European woman in the US who worked for the FBI because she could speak the (fictional) language of her obscure country, from which a bunch of immigrants had fled to America during WWII and were now causing trouble in Boston.

She was extremely racist (hated Italians, blacks, anglos and germans and had lengthy physiognomy tangents) and most of the book was her internal monologue about how much she hated America and everything in it, to the point of her sneering at the word "gasoline" and cringing at the way people walked, all the while helping some mick solve mysteries. Her name was Lena but I have no idea what the book was called. It was really funny though.

Only time I've ever read a female protag and actually liked her.

[Anonymous No.17228488]

>>17226475

[Anonymous No.17228596]

>>17220456
So how powerful are Balrogs exactly? A team of them can beat Ungoliant, a creature so evil and powerful that it defeated Morgoth but one by itself got taken down by Gandalf the Grey.

[Anonymous No.17228601]

>>17227535
And you replied every single time.

[Anonymous No.17228726]

>>17228596
>taken down by Gandalf the Grey
I've always figured Gandalf is no pushover, just that he isn't allowed to reveal is power level around normies, he is just supposed to guide them. When it comes to Balrog then the gloves come off, since they're also Maiar or some shit,.
Also I don't think all Balrog are made equal. The one in Moria was probably some bitch.

[Anonymous No.17228804]

>>17228596
Aren't there also stories of entire armies of Balrog being held off by a single guy or something? I think their power varies greatly.
Been a while since I read any Tolkien though.

[Anonymous No.17228854]

>>17220532
>4. Ishuäl was literally built by the Nonmen, modeled after their own mansions.
>"Ishuäl was constructed to be the secret fastness of the Kûniüric High Kings."

[Anonymous No.17228921]

>>17228601
>it's not schizophrenic impulse if you notice XD

[Anonymous No.17228962]

>>17228726
>>17228804
That's fair. It's obvious that Tolkien didn't really care much about explaining power level (Not saying that's a bad thing). I find ti interesting however that Dragons in his universe seem to be more powerful than Balrogs yet if they were more powerful why didn't they save Morgoth from Ungoliant?

[Anonymous No.17228966]

>>17228596
balrog probably vary in strength, also like that other anon said, Gandalf is no pushover. Still, defeating just one Balrog was enough to push Gandalf to collapse and bodily death.

[Anonymous No.17228971]

>>17228962
Dragons are arrogant fucks who wandered off to do their own shit.

[Anonymous No.17229010]

>>17226475

[Anonymous No.17229018]

>>17229010
BOOBA

[Anonymous No.17229147]

>>17226663

[Anonymous No.17229263]

>>17220456
Any good Fantasy books which have magic as a focus or at the very least an important access. Wizards/Magicians would be nice too

[Anonymous No.17229277]

can we go back to wolfeposting

[Anonymous No.17229347]

>>17221173
Nobody actually wants to write about Canada. We need some form of escapism from this frozen post-national hellscape

[Anonymous No.17229357]

>>17228971
That's after Morgoth got his ass whooped though. Dragons were still one of Morgoth's key weapons during his wars

[Anonymous No.17229375]

>>17223763
The Teft scene in Oathbringer where he sells his jacket to go drinking is pretty tragic.

[Anonymous No.17229396]

>>17229375
not quite as tragic as his pointless death at the hands of an extremely shitty villain character.

[Anonymous No.17229413]

>>17229277
what I like about wolfe, he is a chameleon for writing styles and character pov's

[Anonymous No.17229423]

>>17229147
saved
or rather... damned

[Anonymous No.17229477]

>>17229357
It's too late when we die

[Anonymous No.17229521]

>>17229277
shhhh we are now LOTRposting apparently.

[Anonymous No.17229645]

is william gibsons prose good? im considering picking up neuromancer.

[Anonymous No.17229653]

Wolfe is pretty based desu
So PEACE is confirmed to be a ghost story from the point of view of the ghost right?

[Anonymous No.17229654]

>>17229645
It's very minimalistic and kind of hallucinogenic. No big complicated words (at least imho), but it's not something you can just skim over.

[Anonymous No.17229733]

Recently read pic related. While the main character felt like an edgy teenager poet in the first and last pages, I've never read a description of the vastness of the cosmos that genuinely made me feel how tiny I am, until this.

Dune, Foundation, WH40K, why are authors so inept when it comes to scale? You often find fiction describing empires spanning thousands upon thousands of planets and yet you barely see dozens of cultures and descriptions of languages that could all fit inside the same world.

What unfortunate legacy for Dune and those inspired by it, for example, where the middle-eastern cultural influence is obvious and welcome due to the geography of the planet, and yet for some unexplained reason (unless you count Brian's circlejerk fanfiction canon) the whole MULTI-GALACTIC empire and Spacing Guild do trade, policy and religion with the same middle-eastern flair and muslim inspiration, how fucking convenient, how ultimately disappointing.

[Anonymous No.17229766]

>>17229733
most of the planets in the dune empire are scarcely inhabited with the majority having maybe a few million scattered around or concentrated in a few close cities. The really lush and populated planets are usually under the direct control of a powerful clan or company

[Anonymous No.17229832]

>>17229645

Neuromancer isn't exactly prose, nor is it exactly verse. It's... maybe a bit like an epic poem, without being particularly epic.

I can't in good conscience claim that Gibson's prose is good. It's not bad, either. It's... intentional and successful within the boundaries of that intent. Anyway it's like two hundred fifty pages. Just fucking read it and pass your own judgement, and don't expect anything from his later work.

[Anonymous No.17230029]

>>17226889
I don't remember asking for something short. Hang on, I'm going to look in the archives.
No, look. I didn't say anything about size: >>/lit/thread/S16952363#p16956373
And then whoever mentioned Emperor's Soul(You?), just assumed I wanted something small. >>/lit/thread/S16952363#p16956657
And then here, I even said that I prefer *continuity* and one-offs >>/lit/thread/S16952363#p16956879
And then here, I said "I never know how I should feel about novellas. They almost don't feel worth getting invested in." Reinforcing the point that especially short stories feel like a waste to me. >>/lit/thread/S16952363#p16957365

>>17227082
ok, between Warbreaker, Mistborn, and Stormlight. Which has the LEAST amount of battles in it.

[Anonymous No.17230225]

has nobody read pic related? The archive is almost empty.

[Anonymous No.17230235]

>>17230225
Ah shit, I was going to order it but used my budget to get something else. It's still on my list and I will get to it eventually.

[Anonymous No.17230260]

>>17229653
i mean, yes, that's the entire point. have you read it? they talk about how the dead are trapped in an ever-shifting nightmare of their own histories, and then whenever weer talks about the "present," his house has rooms he doesn't recognize and he can't find his way around. also they talk about trees holding spirits underground, and the novel opens with a tree falling. it's not particularly subtle, but there's a lot to think about in it, anyhow. IMO his best work.

[Anonymous No.17230387]

>>17230225
Seems not really.

[Anonymous No.17230447]

why does that filthy, disgusting, wooly headed, cowardly heeb Neil Gayman need to taint so many good books with his ridiculous forewords, introductions, and shitty corny quotes.

[Anonymous No.17230466]

>>17220728
Not all of them though.

[Anonymous No.17230472]

>>17230466
Hyperion is a meme

[Anonymous No.17230476]

>>17220728
its because sci fi attracts bucket head retards like assimov

[Anonymous No.17230480]

>>17230472
It's really not though, it's literary as fuck. Second one is pretty decent too.

[Anonymous No.17230487]

>>17230480
Name-dropping Keats and overwrought does not make it literary. The Priest's tale was good, the others were okay. The "stage" was atrocious, and the prose was passable.

[Anonymous No.17230519]

so many Bakkerbros in this post. Is Neuropath any good? the dude knows more philosophy than me so I hope to learn something other than

>how can we reconcile the fact that we're all atoms with the the fact that the apple has a subjective taste to it

[Anonymous No.17230603]

>>17227727
when does he say it

[Anonymous No.17230631]

>>17230519
yeah it's pretty good

[Anonymous No.17230667]

Dear Bakker, if you're still alive and somehow reading this, I just want you to know that you are loved. Even though you're a bit of an autistic cringe edgelord, so are we, and you are an inspiration to us, your faithful Zaudunyani. You are high-IQ, you are the greatest canadian dungeon master to ever live, we would love to have a glass of beer with you, or a cup of tea if you're sober now. Please don't stop writing, you can always talk to us if you need help. Please give us the No-God books someday. Publisher be damned. You are our Holy Author and you have inspired many of us to write.

[Anonymous No.17230749]

/sffg/, my brain is an arse full of farts. what do I read that will help me tell a complicated story

[Anonymous No.17230756]

>>17230749

[Anonymous No.17230796]

>>17230225
getting it now

[Anonymous No.17230807]

>>17230749
Read obscure history books and just steal the material from there

[Anonymous No.17230848]

> After very depressing, morbid events and situations, we reach the final stage of the Ordeal. Through very epic and tragic climaxes we get to the end. There are many questions and things left to our subjectivity but I know that the OP wanted that. He claimed so in some Q&A. Seeing everything from the end I cannot but admire the way he foreshadowed so many things. They way pieces were set. The whole story was incredible. It had everything I long for. Very epic and so disturbing at the same time. Morbid. Insane. Actionwise it never got cheesy. Only epic after epic. Drama after drama. Tons of intensity and gravity. Sacrifices, betrayals, bravery, bitterness, addictions, passions, reason, manipulation, love, faith. Everything conflicting and struggling. I know that not all people would like these books but they are definitely extremely original, groundbreaking, penetrating and thought provoking.

[Anonymous No.17231115]

>>17230225
I've got a copy but I own more than 600 unread scifi and fantasy paperbacks

[Anonymous No.17231165]

What are the best works in fantasy genre from not English speaking authors (XX-XXIc)?

[Anonymous No.17231297]

>>17230466
Hyperion is not a meme and I love both it and Fall Of but I somewhat agree with the other lad who replied - after reading some more I think in retrospect it's definitely not *that* literary

[Anonymous No.17231341]

>gay sex
>incest
>prostitution
>rape
>pedophilia

Which sick fantasy extravaganza by the Canadian author I'm talking about? Million dollars question

[Anonymous No.17231349]

>>17231165
None, only Anglo brain can devise fantasy because it requires affinity for gay sex, incest and rape. Have a good day

[Anonymous No.17231351]

>>17225400
>complaining about Moash’s character

The guys is a Mormon. What did you expect? Fantasy and black and white morality are part of his daily life.

[Anonymous No.17231353]

>>17231341
Rifters by Peter Watts.
Yes its fantasy

[Anonymous No.17231358]

>>17225482
Sanderson only ever truly planed his first couple of books.

[Anonymous No.17231359]

>>17231353
Is this gay vampires in space scifi? I wanted to read Blindsight if thats it but it had a vampire in space, so i didnt. Should I? Is that even it

[Anonymous No.17231379]

>>17231359
Rifters is abused and maladjusted psychopaths in deep sea underwater power plants and black latex, with some body horror.
You should read Blindsight though, its still good despite the space vampires and Watts really went autistic with their reason for existing there.

[Anonymous No.17231436]

>>17231353
Manlike Pete crushing it as usual

>>17231359
The vampires in Blindsight are very well-done, it's a fucking cool idea executed well. It was subsequntly ruined by the word 'vampire' becoming diluted into absurdity by Twilight and its ilk.

[Anonymous No.17231609]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h40D4ZYwKs&t=2s&ab_channel=The%2780sGuy

tfw one amv mogs any and all cybersoy literature

[Anonymous No.17231613]

>that girl on the bakker forums who got so triggered that proyas died that she dropped TUC

why is Proyas so universally popular, I liked him myself but he's a literal religious extremist

[Anonymous No.17231625]

>>17226475
There is no such thing

[Anonymous No.17231631]

>>17226475
the girl who was plugged in

[Anonymous No.17231903]

I'm writing a story that takes place in, you know, a generic theme park in Orange County. There isn't a huge focus on characters from the Disney canon, but that being said they do appear in passing as the main character's story unfolds. Is there a good source for what is and isn't in the public domain and how it can be used? I just know this can get tricky, for instance how some characters from the books and fairytales appear or act differently than their Disney counterparts. For instance Monstro is a dogfish named Atilla in the Pinnochio book, not a whale. The story has actually little to do with Disney, but if I can say characters like Hercules and Merlin appear in the background it just gets it a better sense of place.

[Anonymous No.17231913]

>>17231903
>Orange County
Immediately discarded.

[Anonymous No.17231949]

>>17231913
I've lived on the west coast all my lifetime and the story starts out with a roadtrip. I've done the drive from Seattle to LA so many times and some of the places on the way are apart of the story. I have lived in Flordia, but only for like 6 months so I don't feel like I could do the great state as much justice as California, but the park in Orlando is way better I agree.

[Anonymous No.17231963]

>>17231949
I don’t think you get it buddy. Virtually no one here cares about sff on a modern day setting. Much less on a real setting.

[Anonymous No.17231966]

>>17228596
>power level autism in Tolkien's work
>especially comparing first and third age
don't

[Anonymous No.17231988]

>>17231963
Who the fuck even cares about anything with high elements of fantasy on a modern day setting (not including science fiction) ?

Is there even a market for this? Genuinely curious. And don’t even say “Harry Potter” because non of the real life elements matter in that story.

[Anonymous No.17232127]

Going to take a break before starting Dust of Dreams and Rhythm of War by reading some scifi.
Been looking at a couple, what do you guys think about A Memory Called Empire and The Three Body Problem? Seem to be solid, but I'd figure I'd ask anyone who's gotten around to them and their respective sequels too.

[Anonymous No.17232145]

>>17232127
3bp is soulless chinkoid drivel

[Anonymous No.17232231]

>>17230029
Warbreaker has the fewest battles.

[Anonymous No.17232239]

Daily remainder that Bakker is shit, and you should thanks for him doesn't ending this shitshow of rape fetish. Kellhus should have say fuck Earwa, every one ins this world is shit and evil.

[Anonymous No.17232241]

>>17232127
3bp in english is censored

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/917836.shtml

[Anonymous No.17232254]

>>17232231
Cool. Thanks. Warbreaker is on the to-read list then. Just after Elantris.
I said if I liked The Emperor's Soul, I would go back and try Elantris. So that's what I'm going to do. And then after that, Warbreaker.

[Anonymous No.17232273]

Martinbros, w-we gonna see it the targaryen restoration, r-right?

[Anonymous No.17232281]

>>17232127
>A Memory Called Empire
Pretty cool concept regarding the technology of storing and passing down memories. And the concept is pushed pretty far. The story pretty much exists in order to speculate over the core concept. So it's largely just about memories and how they affect the main character.
The author tries to flesh out the characters the best she can, but some of the banter feels a little forced at times. Still, they're nice enough characters. And then get caught up in some intrigues. All and all a nice scifi story. Worth the read.

I don't know anything about The Three Body Problem, sorry.

[Anonymous No.17232358]

>>17232145
>>17232241
Damn, that sucks to hear. If I were to somehow get my hands on a non-censored fanmade translation would it hold up?
>>17232281
Thanks for the rundown. I'm surprised though, don't know where I got the idea that it was a politicking space opera story set in real time. Still intriguing regardless, will give it a shot.
>sorry
No need, thanks again.

[Anonymous No.17232364]

What the fuck is the appeal of Asimov. Does he attract STEM retards who don't care about characters and poetry?

[Anonymous No.17232377]

>>17232364
Only outer-/lit/ faggots care about writing quality. /sffg/ is for shitty writing and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.17232387]

>>17232364
>Does he attract STEM retards who don't care about characters and poetry?
Are you the same guy who was defending Hyperion because it was "literary as fuck"?

[Anonymous No.17232414]

>>17232387
I have never read hyperion

[Anonymous No.17232436]

>>17232358
There is minor politicking and references to other worlds. But it's all easy to follow stuff. Doesn't get too involved in the politics.

[Anonymous No.17232464]

Is malazan pozzed

[Anonymous No.17232553]

>>17232464
Kinda, there are a decent number of gay and lesbian characters and lots of different races and stuff, it's not really politically though

[Anonymous No.17232560]

>>17232553
Thanks, dropped.

[Anonymous No.17232626]

How does the Dresden Files television show hold up to the books? I was looking for something to put on my second monitor and came across it.

[Anonymous No.17232639]

>>17232364
I like Asimov because his ideas are interesting and for the most part not even ruined (some reaffirmed) by modern science. The prose doesn't bother me, even though my favorite SF is usually stuff like Wolfe, because I'm not reading it for the same reason as I'd read a Wolfe book. They're faster reads without a lot of mystery to slow you down.

[Anonymous No.17233008]

>>17232929
>>17232929
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[Anonymous No.17233081]

>>17232364
>needs characters and poetry
Are you a gril

[Anonymous No.17233304]

>>17232364
his ideas are clean and his character serviceable. If you want pretentious posturing drivel in sci-fi read Dune.

[Anonymous No.17233311]

>>17226385
Damn bailey got fat.
Too bad he don't take dick. The faggot.