Has anyone done the exercizes in this book?

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Has anyone done the exercizes in this book? Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:12:12 2021 No.17197883 [Reply] [Original]

What did they do for you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:21:44 2021 No.17197922 >>17197883 Enlightenment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:24:49 2021 No.17197930 Paranoid schizophrenia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:25:26 2021 No.17197936 >>17197930 This first And then this >>17197922

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:27:00 2021 No.17197942 >>17197883 curious. what are the exercises?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:27:09 2021 No.17197943 >>17197936 You would know they are one and the same thing if you have actually made the exercizes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:29:33 2021 No.17197955 >>17197883 After doing the exercises, I was able to understand Nietzsche quotes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:31:48 2021 No.17197962 >>17197943 Schizophrenia is Greek for 'split (from) reality. That is hardly enlightenment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:32:40 2021 No.17197967 >>17197962 t. didn't read the book

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:37:14 2021 No.17197992 >>17197943 I did the exercises and they were useful. However it's not the same thing, schizos aren't grounded in reality and enlightened people are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 07:38:37 2021 No.17198002 >>17197967 Yes I have, but I am not talking about the book. A split from reality, delusions, hallucinations, these cannot be considered characteristics of enlightenment.

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 08:05:20 2021 No.17198151
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>>17197942
The last page has a note inducing readers to about non-existent exercises when discussing the book to confuse the uninitiated. You see, the real exercise is to read the book and transform your subconcious through 'experiencing' the story
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>>	Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 08:10:21 2021 No.17198177 >>17197962 schizophrenia and enlightenment are the exact same thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 08:11:43 2021 No.17198185 >>17198151 >non-existent exercises >the real exercise is to read the book Which you clearly failed to do.

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 08:21:27 2021 No.17198242

>>17197942
Many and varied. But the main objective is to lever you out of habitual modes of thinking, and introduce you to other views of "reality".
The overall message is that all humans construct their own perception of existence (or "reality tunnel") mainly by accident, through random formative experiences. Therefore happiness and fulfilment are subject to the whims of chance. The book offers a solution to this, by opening the possibility of building a better "reality" through conscious choice.

>>	Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 09:35:34 2021 No.17198690 Bump

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 10:15:49 2021 No.17198946
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>Exercise one is to visualize a coin and go looking for it
>See clearly a penny with a scratch on the back
>Go outside and somehow find that exact penny with the scratch
>Another exercise is basically practicing wim hof, or pranyama. That is, inhale and exhale as fully and quickly as able
>After 5 minutes entire body vibrates and feel like I took heavy drugs, is consistently able to stop pain and anxiety
>Another exercise is to speak as quickly as possible without knowing what you're going to say next
>Get to see clearly how my subconcious works and what words and phrases it uses, learn about myself
>Another exercise is to pretend to be of a completely different political ideology, philosophy, religion, culture. He actually recommends pretending to be a hardcore nazi/commie/jew/whatever and coming up with a fake plan for taking over the world with the new ideology
>Get to understand peoples worldview much better
Honestly a great book

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 10:17:36 2021 No.17198962 >>17197883 I keep seeing this book everywhere, and I been thinking of taking some LSD with my gf and brainwashing us both into doing the exercises, kek Maybe I can finally sissy hypno her into becoming my pet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 11:42:40 2021 No.17199648 >>17197992 t. didn't read the book >>17198002 fair enough

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:27:12 2021 No.17200062 >get to the first exercise >find it completely unusable since I have very poor visualization skills (been that way since childhood) >put book down That's my story.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:28:47 2021 No.17200071 >>17198946 >After 5 minutes entire body vibrates and feel like I took heavy drugs, is consistently able to stop pain and anxiety thats hyperventilation and it is not very healthy

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:29:51 2021 No.17200080

>>17200062
Doesn't matter, the aim of the book is for you to realize that you create your own "reality tunnel". Make any ritual for the coin, meditate on the coin, write a story about the coin, it doesn't matter as long as you convince yourself that you created the coin that you will encounter.
The book is an exercise in mystical skepticism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:30:53 2021 No.17200093 >>17200071 is it just healthy then?

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:34:48 2021 No.17200130
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>>17200071
It's not hyperventilation as that is short breaths. These are long breaths and the oxygenation of the blood is actually healthy. It feels great too, better then masturbation, Also, helps the activity of masturbation, causing more powerful orgasms. Helps with meditation also. Do it laying down though cause might fall

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:39:13 2021 No.17200169 >>17200080 I'll try it, thanks friend

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:41:13 2021 No.17200189 >>17200130 >It's not hyperventilation as that is short breaths. These are long breaths and the oxygenation of the blood is actually healthy. How stupid are you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:41:47 2021 No.17200193 >>17197883 loved reading this but it caused me to feel totally disconnected from others. Did about 25% of the exercises, one of them turned me into a /pol/lac.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:45:23 2021 No.17200231 >>17200169 NP, the book is not only about that though, I've read The Cosmic Trigger too and I'm a little biased to the whole "reality tunnel" angle, but I might have oversimplified it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:46:48 2021 No.17200244 >>17200189 You should unironically try it. It's been an ancient practice and many people have success with it. I've taken LSD and the effect is similar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:48:40 2021 No.17200257 >>17200244 yeah but doesn't it fuck with your body one way or another? Maybe just smoke weed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:48:47 2021 No.17200258 >>17200244 >heavy breathing makes you trip Pure placebo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:50:41 2021 No.17200275 >>17200257 I personally think it makes me feel better and more healthy. I've been doing it for a long while. >>17200258 Try it for like 5 minutes and you'll feel like you're getting tickled all over. It's a very intense experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:51:17 2021 No.17200284 >>17200244 do you have visuals? Not "kinda" visuals, but full psychedelic visuals?

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:53:57 2021 No.17200305

>>17200284
I should clarify, LSD is likely too strong a way to describe it. Shrooms are closer. It's a body high, and not hallucinatory. Your hands and feet will get very ticklish, you'll feel weird warmth, after a while it's a very ecstatic experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:55:13 2021 No.17200319 >>17200257 He's literally just hyperventilating but thinks because the duration of breaths is longer that the effect isn't the same. It's pretty hilarious. Yes, if you hyperventilate you will get lightheaded. Well done.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:57:31 2021 No.17200340 >>17200305 what a bummer, thanks tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:58:28 2021 No.17200346 >>17200340 Still try it dude, it is worth it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:59:47 2021 No.17200361 >>17200305 I have done this breathing exercise stuff and it's nothing like shrooms either. It's a nice body buzz, nothing more. If you have to compare it to a drug, it's most like taking a small amount of oxy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:02:06 2021 No.17200376 >>17200361 Shrooms may be an overstatement as well. I've never taken oxy. Either way, depending on how long you do it it can get real intense. I've don an hour and by god it's strong.

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:02:55 2021 No.17200382

>>17200346
I've been around the RAWsphere for some time, but I appreciate the encouragement nonetheless.
One thing I've experienced and found weird;
When doing classical theravada meditation (concentration only) sometimes I spontaneously hyperventilate to the point where I have to take a big breath...I'm not sure what to make of it

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:06:06 2021 No.17200406

>>17200376
This is only tangentially related, but have you ever fucked around with a dream machine? Seems like something you'd enjoy, basically it's using a flashing light to fuck with your brainwaves, you see closed-eye visuals and have a general feeling of calm. It was popular in Burroughs' circle during the 60s, and I wouldn't be surprised if RAW has made use of one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:08:03 2021 No.17200425 >>17200406 He has, and I have one myself actually. It's good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:15:03 2021 No.17200471 >>17200071 You're doing it wrong. Hyperventilation is an involuntary nervous symptom. Pranayama is a voluntary means of relieving nervous symptoms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:18:07 2021 No.17200496 >>17200471 Nothing about the term "hyperventilation" implies it's involuntary, please stop talking about things you've absolutely no idea about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 13:38:03 2021 No.17200626 >>17200496 Not the guy you're talking too but I thought hyperventaltion implied a loss of balance between inhalation and exhalation, while pranyama used a steady pace and balance of both

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 14:23:14 2021 No.17200966 >>17200496 Nothing about the term "cancer" implies it's involuntary, but you'd have to be a next-level retard to think it isn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 14:27:20 2021 No.17201000 >>17197922 >enlightened >still on 4chan kek, get real

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 14:29:59 2021 No.17201015

>>17200626
No, hyperventilation singularly refers to the displacement of CO2 in the blood (which leads to hypocapnia) as a result of either quick shallow breaths or long deep ones.

>>17200966
Possibly one of the worst "gotchas" I've ever seen on /lit/. Please stop hyperventilating friendo, it's not good for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 14:36:35 2021 No.17201059 >>17201015 >this level of cope

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 14:43:17 2021 No.17201107 File: 12 KB, 189x300, robertantonwilson.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RAW is my most read author of all time. Haven't done the exercises though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:07:30 2021 No.17201265 >>17197883 Time to allow myself to get meme’d into reading another book by /lit/. I’ll even do some of the exercises. If I don’t ascend, I’ll kill OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:12:27 2021 No.17201308 >>17197883 The coin one worked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:13:28 2021 No.17201314 >>17201107 Get with the program gronk.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:15:04 2021 No.17201326 >>17201015 It feels good, I feel better after I do it, and it's a part of my daily routine. I'm sorry, guess I'm addicted to it.

>>	Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 15:16:50 2021 No.17201341 >>17200130 >It's not hyperventilation >oxygenation Are you retarded anon? It's LITERALLY hyperventilation. And no it doesn't oxigenate your blood, it does the opposite, which is why you start having these weird sensations

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:28:25 2021 No.17201442 >>17201341 Well, the weird sensations are pleasurable and nice. I feel, personally, consistently better after practicing it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:36:32 2021 No.17201516 >>17201442 Not the other anon, but it feeling nice doesn’t mean it’s not terrible for you, of course. Don’t you admit that? This just seems dangerous

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:44:51 2021 No.17201592

>>17197883
I did them when i first read the book

I chose to believe in Feng Shui which was pretty enlightening to see the world through a different aesthetic. All of these exercises help break your complacency around the filters you regularly operate behind. It can make you feel pretty schizoid if you take it too seriously

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:52:59 2021 No.17201678

>>17201516
I've been doing it consistently since 2015 and haven't had any negative side effects. It's been an ancient practice from tradition to induce a different sensation across the body. That alone makes it a unique tool for inducing brain change. That said, I wouldn't do it standing up, I wouldn't do it driving, and ect. I only have my personal experience to relate but it's been a great aspect of my life. I do it while masturbating for better orgasms. I do it while meditating to induce a ticklish sensation across my body. It's worth it to try once for it's mind changing abilities, and it's benefit is it can be done any number of times anywhere.

>>	Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 15:53:51 2021 No.17201688 >>17201265 Its a fun read, even though the author is clearly a midwit

>>	Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 15:54:55 2021 No.17201696 >>17201442 I agree anon, I was just disagreeing with the fact that you claimed that it isn't hyperventilation

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 15:59:08 2021 No.17201742

>>17201696
Oh, well in that case we're in agreement. Yeah actually it is self induced hyperventilation, but an important emphasis on the full inhale, full exhale, and steady pace. It's an interesting thing to experiment with, for the new sensations across the body, but I think you show shrewdness in seeing the potential danger. I would be willing to say though, that there is a negative type of hyperventilation, with unsteadiness, nervousness induced, ect. This particular type of a positive hyperventilation though can be used for great good, however. As long as it's done right.

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 16:02:37 2021 No.17201777

i just finished The Magus by John Fowles, has anyone in the thread read it? It seems like it might be related to RAW, I don't remember I read those books in high school and all I remember is some guy in a hot tub lowering a girl onto his cock and making her come immediately

Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 16:08:44 2021 No.17201834

>>17201742
I'm not the anon who was concerned about the dangers of hyperventilation (although I somewhat agree with him, I've only done it a few times and I'm still a bit too scared to do it longer than 5-10 minutes, especially since the tingling starts to hurt a little)

>>17201777
>some guy in a hot tub lowering a girl onto his cock and making her come immediately
Tell me more anon. Also what is this RAW I keep reading about?

>>	Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 16:09:48 2021 No.17201844 >>17201742 >>17201834 Oh, and sorry for calling you a retard, bad habit I developed on this godforsaken website

Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 16:13:14 2021 No.17201879

PSA:
DON'T HYPERVENTILATE WHEN SWIMMING, YOU MIGHT DIE
>DON'T HYPERVENTILATE WHEN SWIMMING, YOU MIGHT DIE
DON'T HYPERVENTILATE WHEN SWIMMING, YOU MIGHT DIE
>DON'T HYPERVENTILATE WHEN SWIMMING, YOU MIGHT DIE
DON'T HYPERVENTILATE WHEN SWIMMING, YOU MIGHT DIE
>DON'T HYPERVENTILATE WHEN SWIMMING, YOU MIGHT DIE
DON'T HYPERVENTILATE WHEN SWIMMING, YOU MIGHT DIE
>DON'T HYPERVENTILATE WHEN SWIMMING, YOU MIGHT DIE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freediving_blackout#Shallow_water_blackout
Wim Hof has already been sued because people went swimming in cold water after doing his breathing routine
Stay safe anons

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 16:38:47 2021 No.17202065 >>17200130 based traditionalist vs >>17201341 cringe muh its bad for your health the science say so

>>	Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 17:00:17 2021 No.17202263 >>17202065 >cringe muh its bad for your health the science say so I'm not the anon who complained

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 17:01:19 2021 No.17202272 I'm fucking ripped now.

>>	Wojakposter Mon Jan 4 17:23:18 2021 No.17202496 One last bump before bed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 17:31:00 2021 No.17202562 >>17201834 Robert Anton Wilson, the author of the book being discussed

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 19:08:57 2021 No.17203479
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>>17197883
did the first few chapters' worth a year or so ago like reading biased news sources for weeks and trying to manifest someone giving you a copy of the bhagavad gita
still no copy of it

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 20:40:50 2021 No.17204273

I doubt most people have done them because these exercise take a huge amount of time and some are really context specific - like reading a very obscure journal entries for a number of months.

Im stuck on the first chapter - its been 3 months and I haven't found a coin yet let alone one I was visualising.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 23:54:15 2021 No.17205493 is this just The Secret for dudes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 02:05:34 2021 No.17206074 >>17201265 Update! I am now half way through he book. Obviously I haven’t really done any of the exercises. Still: OP, prepare yourself for death because I am NOT impressed thus far. WHY DO YOU ALL KEEP MEMEING ME INTO READING SHITTERS REEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 03:32:31 2021 No.17206400 bump

>>	Wojakposter Tue Jan 5 03:55:01 2021 No.17206471 >>17202562 Ah fuck, I'm a retard

>>	Wojakposter Tue Jan 5 03:56:31 2021 No.17206476 >>17206074 Sorry that I wasted your time anon, but what about it didn't you like?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 04:13:18 2021 No.17206528 >>17206074 How do you expect to get it without doing the exercises?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 04:50:38 2021 No.17206647 >>17197883 never read it. based on this thread it sounds like a bunch of pseudoscience to dupe people into doing magic tricks

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 05:28:50 2021 No.17206781
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>>17206647
HOLY MONKEY OF DARWIN UPVOTED
>>17206471
kek no problems. I recommend the Cosmic Trigger a lot if anybody is interested in RAW. It's the best book on skepticism. That is, if you don't happen to be a full /x/ schizo and miss the point.

>>	Wojakposter Tue Jan 5 06:26:33 2021 No.17207021 >>17206781 Thanks, I'll add it to my reading list

>>	Wojakposter Tue Jan 5 11:37:58 2021 No.17208678 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 14:13:55 2021 No.17209974 >>17203479 You can manifest a 'gita pretty easy by hanging out where Harry Krishners are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 16:28:37 2021 No.17210963 File: 10 KB, 300x200, facepalm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17206471 And a namefag too.

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