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I'm very interested in Christianity, specifically Orthodoxy. What is some essential reading for this? What version of the bible?

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>> No.17148992

>>17148550
Just not catholic.

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>> No.17149010

>>17148550
>What version of the bible?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Study_Bible
https://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Study-Bible-Hardcover-Christianity/dp/0718003594

>> No.17149122

https://svspress.com/categories/Popular-Patristics-Series/

>> No.17149148

>>17148550
read augustine and kierkegaard

>> No.17149167

>>17149148

>> No.17149186

>>17149167
Sorry, updated name

>> No.17149313

>>17148992
>just not Catholic
>the tradition in which the book was written and edited

>> No.17149331

>>17148550
>it's another DUDE ORTHODOXY thread
If you are truly interested, why don't you find your local orthodox church and as the father/pastor there. They would be more than happy to help you. You need to read the bible first before stepping into the fathers, because you'll lack the context for their writings. God bless.

>>17149313
>OT and NT
>Written during the time of the Catholic church

>> No.17149348

>>17149331
Yes, the versions of OT and NT you have access to now definitely were

>> No.17149589

>>17148550
Essential Readings: Any of the Church Fathers. I like the very Early ones like Justin Martyr and Ignatius of Antioch and Augustine, but the Greek ones like Gregory of Nyssa and Basil the Great are also good. Also, the Philolaika.

Version of the Bible: Anything that's not the KJV (i.e. at least includes deuterocanonical books like 1/2 Maccabees, Sirach, Tobit, Wisdom, Baruch and Judith). If it includes those books, then you are guaranteed it is free from errors within the actual Scripture itself (like there are massive translation errors and omissions of many verses in the KJV Bible). It then becomes a question of whether you want the Orthodox Bible and the Catholic Bible, the former also includes books like 3/4 Maccabees, which Catholics consider pseudo-graphical (not because it's heretical per se. More that it doesn't really add much to Scripture in their eyes).

>>17149331
>>17149348
Please don't fight over the internet over shit that isn't even saving souls. If anything Orthodoxy and Catholicism are the two Christian traditions that have the highest likelihood of reconciling in the near future. Pope Francis concelebrated a Mass/Divine Liturgy in Havana with Patriarch Kiril and also with the Pope of the Coptic Church at some other time. Stop this LARPy bullshit and

>> No.17149598

>>17149589
*Stop this LARPy bullshit and just calm down lads.

>> No.17149819

>>17149313
That's Orthodoxy
also
>edited
Heresy

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>>17148550
The best one is:
The Orthodox Way by Kallistos Ware, ISBN 0-264-66578-3.

>> No.17150132

Faith and Reason: Philosophers Explain Their Turn to Catholicism

If you believe in Christianity you must believe in Christ. Jesus said Peter is the rock on which he builds his Church. Catholicism is the only true Church.

>> No.17150138

Kallistos Ware
John Meyendorff
George Florovsky
Seraphim Rose
Jaroslav Pelikan
Andrew Louth
Richard Swinburne

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>> No.17150347

>>17149819
You have a pretty shallow grasp on biblical texts if you don't know they have been meddled with throughout history.

>> No.17151025

In order to understand Orthodoxy you must be born in an orthodox county and raised in an orthodox family by orthodox parents. It's a spiritualism that cannot be learned within one or two generations. Try Catholicism instead.

>> No.17151443

>>17150132
He certainly was, now when you imply he had complete authority over it which is shown to not be the case in scripture and that anyone after him in his place as pope carries that authority you are wrong.

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Is there a good chart for g eneral getting into christianity?

>> No.17152603

>>17148550
you are stupid faggot, bible is toilet paper

>> No.17152684

>>17148550
I would recommend the short book "Beginning to Pray" by Fr. Anthony Bloom, and the KJV or Orthodox Study Bible. If you get a chance, watch his CBC interview from the 70s about suffering.

>> No.17152685

>>17148550
Ignore charts and this /lit/
my priest had me start off simple;
>Fr. Hopko's four part series 'the orthodox faith'
>Orthodox Study Bible
>sayings of the desert fathers
for everything else talk to a damn priest, going to liturgy is more important than reading
t. orthobro

>> No.17153356

>>17148550
I'm sure you can find enough works with strict definitions and lists, but for the spirit I'd recommend reading Leskov's “On the Edge of the World”. You can try to find
https://books.google.ru/books?id=vJ_Tyja4VAQC
in a nearby library (reading the preface and notes is possible in Google Books preview with multiple attempts and clearing cookies), or use the century-old translation that is readily available thanks to the wonder of mass digitization
https://archive.org/details/NikolaiLeskov-SentryAndOtherStories/page/n203/mode/2up
It is also a Christmas story of sorts, so it's even more suitable.

In many ways, Leskov is more “Russian” than famous Russian classics. He sketches the provincial life, and his characters, like the inhabitants of a village hidden deep in the forest in a faraway land, speak in most comfiest ways (alas, how do you translate that?). Check the “Cathedral Folk”, “Enchanted Wanderer”, or another collection of Christmas stories:
https://archive.org/details/thesealedangelot00lesk

>> No.17153805

>>17153356
Bumpity bump.

>> No.17153825

Try Jacques Ellul, hes a christian sociologist and theologist, I really liked "in face of the kingdom" well written and interesting.

>> No.17154095

>>17149589
>Orthodoxy and Catholicism are the two Christian traditions that have the highest likelihood of reconciling in the near future
You’re joking right? You have any idea how much heretical bullshit is in catholicism that orthodoxy disagrees with?

>> No.17154226

>>17148550
the new living translation. it’s the best and most accurate translation for modern English, backed by a ton of translation experts

>> No.17154512

>>17154095
Then why the fuck did Patriarch Kirilof the Russian Orthodox Church con-celebrate Divine Liturgy with Pope Francis if he knew he was celebrating Divine Liturgy with a heretic? Same thing with the Coptic Pope not to long ago either? Shut the fuck up. You clearly do not know shit about what you are talking about.

>> No.17155374

>>17154512
Patriarch Kirill NEVER celebrated the Liturgy with Catholic priests (heretics). You have false information.

>> No.17155409

>>17154095
name ONE heretical catholic doctrine

>> No.17155890

The Orthodox Church - Timothy Ware

>> No.17156576

>>17155409
http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/non-orthodox_ch3.pdf - Western Christianity as Heresy
http://orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/prot_rc_heresy.aspx
http://orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/truenather.aspx
http://orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/heretic_term.aspx