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ITT:
Videogames with such good writing, plot, character development, etc., that it can be considered par with many of the best books.

>> No.1714383

inb4 Mass Effect 2

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>> No.1714391

Shadow of the Colossus

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>>1714384

>> No.1714392

Super Monkey Ball.

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Lucas, Dad, I'm going where mom is. I'm going to see Mom.

>> No.1714396

any bioware game really

>> No.1714397

>>1714391
I love SotC, but I'm not sure it can be compared to books.

I consider it art, but writing, plot and character development are not the best part of it.

>> No.1714400

Bioshock

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>>1714393

>> No.1714402

Megaman

/thread

>> No.1714403

Planescape: Torment is so deep that you bookworms don't even get it^^ U have to be hardcore gamer such as myself to comprehend it maximumly because of how deep and complex it is, it's like deeper than any book, movie or comic book.

>> No.1714405

What exactly was the story of Sonic the Hedgehog?

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>>1714402
Let's discuss examples of foreshadowing that led the audience to the conclusion that Mr. X was Dr. Wily before the twist was revealed.

>> No.1714409

>>1714400
No. I know gamers love to think of this as some deep game but it really isn't that great or smart.

>> No.1714414

>>1714405
A small mammal uses inter dimensional gemstones to take on an evil version of Franklin Roosevelt.

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>>1714396

>> No.1714415

>1714413

Well, it is a deconstruction of why Ayn Rand's philosophy is retarded.

>> No.1714416

>>1714414
That's pretty deep.

>> No.1714417

>>1714407

Have you listened to the Protomen? Rock opera based on Megaman. They are really good.

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>>1714414
Never thought of it that way...

>> No.1714422

close, very close, but I think you mean Super Monkey Ball Deluxe.
Characterisation is better as they have been allowed to develop further and we gain a deeper understanding of them and how and why they interact with each other the way they do.
The ball of course is symbolic of the life long struggle we have to maintain balance.
Shit is so cash.

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The only part of this game that makes it relevant is how they developed Ganondorf at the end. I hope they expand on this in Skyward Sword where there is a possibility of seeing him as a child.

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>> No.1714425

This isn't fucking literature. Fuck off.

This is worse than the time all those fuckwits from /co/ came to /lit/ in the beginning with the utterly inane "comics are literature" routine because they wanted others to think they were smart for reading what they read, even though /lit/ isn't exactly a bastion of intelligent thought. Not to mention comparing completely different mediums with different storytelling mechanics whilst putting one of them on a pedestal is not a particularly valuable way to spend one's time.

Now good day, sirs.

>> No.1714427

No Deus Ex? You guys suck at video game

>> No.1714429

>>1714382
It was sad and all, but only puts it on par with emotional jerking books.

>> No.1714431

>>1714427
Great game, good story. Not a great story, but still okay.

>> No.1714432

Hi, /lit/ here

Just laughing here because no one on /v/ has read great literature. Heads up, Lord of the Rings doesn't count.

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>>1714425
Nobody on 4chan, any board, has the right to talk about what is a valuable way to spend time. And who are you to decide what is literature and what isn't. There is a definition sure, but everyone draws the line differently.

>> No.1714435

>>1714433
I'm with you. The other guy is just a douche.

>> No.1714436

>>1714409
No, it is deep. You really aren't that great or smart.

>> No.1714437

>>1714396
You mean on par with garbage fantasy books, correct?

>> No.1714438

>>1714432
>no one on /v/ has read great lit
Nice call.

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it doesn't really fall under any of those, but it's just such a fucking fun read

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/lit/s favorite video game is Braid

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>>1714442

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Might as well be a book. It would be the best choose your own adventure book ever.

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Psychological thriller.
"What a twist!" multiple endings depending on what you do in the game
Monsters are all metaphors for protagonist's inner turmoil
So good.

>> No.1714452

>>1714450
This this this. The first three games are epic.

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This game blows my mind everytime.

Also it was heavily influenced by City of Glass

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LittleBigPlanet.

>> No.1714462

trash panic

>> No.1714466

No, Planescape: Torment?

>> No.1714476

>texts of videogames with such good writing, plot, character development, etc., that it can be considered par with many of the best texts.

fixed

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>>1714476
I am being a little too misleading with that, so I'll re-fix

>texts with such good writing, plot, character development, etc., that it can be considered par with many of the best texts.

lol, etc

>> No.1714485

>>1714433

I don't have the right, that doesn't mean I can't merely exercise the ability to do so.

Video games have their own board. As such, discussion of them should be contained within said board.

It's the same deal with comics. You can argue until the cows come home that they're literature (let's not get into that crap) but that doesn't change the fact that they have their own board already - where discussion of them is more suited.

/lit/ has a hard enough time with all the shitty philosophy threads full of vague, primarily American undergrads/AP students, arguing bullshit semantics and uttering tripe like "reality is subjective maaan".

I mean, I could just hide this thread like a lot of threads, but I just don't like the kinds of things that make decent posters think twice about bothering to post here.

>> No.1714491

Black Ops

u mad?

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the Legacy of Kain Series

>> No.1714512

>>1714485

Oh no, a thread paralleling other media to literature? What if it gets in the way of one of the eight Catcher In The Rye threads simultaneously on /lit/'s front page twenty-four/seven?

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>>1714444
Gonna have to agree with the quads. Braid is a pretty good example of well done storytelling in the vidya.

I'm also putting up Ace Combat 04 for excellent writing. The story's told through the point of view of a boy under the military rule of the faction you're trying to take back control of the country from. The boy eventually befriends the enemy's top ace, and you become both the hero and the antagonist of the story. It's really neat.

>> No.1714527

Wishbringer
Zork
Leather Goddesses of Phobos
Planetfall / Stationfall

>> No.1714854

Hey, OP, I like you, because Mother 3 is basically the only game that I feel really made use of the medium really well, as in, it was a perfect video game, not for fantasy-loving fags jacking off their useless half-flaccid dicks, but for people who want to feel something interesting. And it could only really have been done in a video game, even better, a video game system with relatively shitty technology. That being said you're retarded by saying "considered par". It's not, come on... maybe a mid-to-high tier book, but "of the best"? Fuck you.

Everyone who posts a game from now on, if the denizens of /lit/ are to give any number of shits, must post their reasons for their assertion. I want to play more games like Mother 3; they must be out there.

>> No.1714880

None, but Xenogears was fun and I'll second Silent Hill 2.

>> No.1714908

get a load of these /v/irgins
the gaem has metaphor! is literature!

itt: full on derp out

>> No.1714927

Starfox

>> No.1714938

Not very many, but Pathologic would have to be one of the best. It's also quite contemporary, but it's postmodernism doesn't hijack the narrative.
The Void, also by IPL, is at times and in parts novel and derivative. As a game it is better, the premise is solid though nothing new (you've died and entered a wasteland where colour is currency) and nice cronenbergian art design.

The Path is a nice cross between 'In the Company of Wolves' Carl Jung and LSD. Lot's of missed potential and a few game mechanic problems, but nice ideas and good visual imagery.

Arcanum has great writing and is very characterful though the story is more or less generic

Planescape Torment has very good and appropriate writing, is pretty rich narritively

Bioshock, while not really treading new ground, did a good job visually and in tone, it reminded me of Culpa Innata a bit, both videogames that hilariously characterize randian philosophy

>> No.1714953

Winter voices is definitely dramatic, but the writing and the tone are effective, but more importantly the game mechanics complement it rather than stand apart from it.