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No private property, living a “communal life”, brainwashed & rewriting history with “noble lies”. Seems like this mf started the spark that led to communism or at least that someone drew heavy influence from his work.

>> No.17143759

Also, did he also inspire lord of the rings? It was that a story that predated him?

>> No.17143764

>>17143751
I'm pretty sure communism was started by communists

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>>17143751
Yes.

>> No.17143816

>>17143751
Dumb take. Kys immediately.

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>>17143764

>> No.17143836

Communism is a reaction to capitalism. Capitalism was not around in ancient greece numnuts

>> No.17143845

>>17143751
Based Comrade Plato. All philosophers, thinkers, and writers are inherently leftists

>> No.17143850

>>17143751
No. And Marx was more influenced by Aristotle than Plato.

>> No.17143868

>>17143845
>All philosophers, thinkers, and writers are inherently leftists
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

>> No.17143904

No you fucking retard. You should not read ancient works of literature divorced from historical context, it leads to braindead presentist takes.

>> No.17143910

>>17143751
He had classes and not all classes had shared goods tho

>> No.17143919

> No private property
That’s only for the guardian caste. The vast majority of people go about as normal.

>> No.17144090

>>17143751
It's corporatist

>> No.17144146

He also wanted the Warrior clan to have polyamory. Plato is pro cuck.

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>>17143751
No.
Communists have absolutely none of the qualities of auxiliaries, let alone guardians. Hell, they wouldn't even be qualified for the producer class.

>> No.17144211

>>17144192
." Fatted the fat man fattily

>> No.17145828

You should read "The Socialist Phenomenon: A Historical Survey of Socialist Policies and Ideals" by Igor Shafarevich.

>> No.17146118

>>17143751
It was Pythagoras and the Pythagorean’s who served as an inspiration to Plato with communal living, propertyless individuals etc with their communes throughout Greece and southern Italy.
Plato didn’t start Communism, he is the father of authoritarian, totalitarian states but his Republic is not a literal guide to follow

>> No.17147058

>>17143919
I was implying that fragments of communism may have been lifted from fragments of platos philosophy. I didn’t mean he established communism in its current form. It’s been thousands of years, some intellectual political group pushing a lot of the communist style agendas may have ripped ideas from Plato.