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>/science fiction and fantasy general/


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>> No.17130275

FUCK SANDERSOYS

>> No.17130276

first for black seed

>> No.17130284

>>17130276
guess I'll just fucking die then

>> No.17130286

One need only ponder cowardice to unravel the complexities of Bakkerbros—the reflex, like gagging, to forever be the one aggrieved. Who had suffered more than them (save the LeGuin fags)? Who had read more pages (save the Herbertfags, the Wheel of Time nerds, the Tolkien apocrypha autists)? In the absence of their Author, who had fallen in the great plague, they had wandered and then they had erred. They had turned to the one who dared claim the light of their Holy Author as his own …

They had trusted.

So it was their Bakkerspammer had led them into depravity, commanded the commission of shitposts so foul, so wicked, they could scarce be imagined. He had exploited their confusion, preyed upon their hunger, anguish and disarray. He had made a feast of their honest and open hearts …

And betrayed all that was based and redpilled.

>> No.17130289

>protag says lets be low profile
>protag says supernatural powers can’t be shown to the public
>protag then joins some live streamed competition and beats the “number one expert” handily

Ok

>> No.17130294

Ok so who is the Mount Rushmore of sffg authors ??? Based on these threads it looks like

1 bakker
2 Sanderson
3 erikson
4 ?????

>> No.17130304

>>17130294
Tolkien, Bakker, Wolfe, Erikson is the only answer

>> No.17130305

Gentlemen, shall we include afterlife lit, like Dante's comedy and The Great Divorce, in our genre?

>> No.17130310

>tfw 12 threads with 310+ posts each to read before I read this one
Not going to make it.

>> No.17130315

rate my protagonist
-Orphan
-Red head, blue eyes
-Teenager girl
-Unique power

>> No.17130316

>>17130304
This. Sanderson is the pile of dogshit your son makes mudpies out of

>> No.17130318

>>17130304
>Tolkien
We’re talking about Mount Rushmore, not Ancient Rome.

>> No.17130320

>>17130304
This guy fucks

>> No.17130321

>>17130294
Tolkien, Lewis, Chesterton, Weeks

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>>17130276
> black seed jetted across the snow

>> No.17130334

>fluent in 5 languages
>forced to read in the worst of them

>> No.17130351

>>17130326
>>17130276
What is This black seed you keep talking about? No spoilers please.

>> No.17130365

>>17130351
something that jets hot and wicked from the mind of a stoned high-IQ canuck named scotty

>> No.17130367

>>17130294
>>17130304


I love bakker but I don't think you can include him on mount rushmore since he isn't popular or influential enough.

>>>17130351

The monsters in r scott bakkers work have black semen

>> No.17130378

>>17130351
cummies from the race of lovers

>> No.17130382

>>17130304
>>17130318
"mount rushmore" usually means greatest or most influential, age isn't a factor

for example in basketball it would be like Jordan, Lebron, Kareem, Wilt or whatever.

You can't include sanderson since he's only been writing for like ten years it feels like, and only recently "popped off" as they say. Erikson just isn't THAT good, or super influential

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>you will never be an inchoroi
>you will never travel the stars murdering and raping countless alien civilizations, all in the name of stopping literal damnation and saying fuck you to the gods

>> No.17130394

>>17130310
>Sanderson bad
>Sanderson good
>a lot of Bakker shilling
>Female writers bad
>China Mieville baiting
>Dude, I'm gonna write some shitty fantasy novel.
That's the outline of every single sffg thread for the past couple of 2 weeks.

>> No.17130404

>>17130262
>Discord
is comfy KWPCM7m

>> No.17130409

>>17130382
>basketball
Lol

>> No.17130411

>This was a topos, a place where hard lines of reality had become shading.

> I’ve walked in the No-God’s shadow. I’ve looked across the void and blotted your world by holding a fingertip before it … No, you know nothing of me or my kind.”

>There was a chorus of plank-muffled shouts from directly beneath him, followed by a staccato snap, as though someone had broken a dozen twigs over his knee.

>The heads of ghost dragons reared from the forward Scarlet Cadres, then like dogs straining for their master’s hand, they bent forward and vomited incendiary streams. Fire gushed up across masonry, orange and gold in the gloom, blazing between crenellations, swirling down stair and ramp, rolling over men and transforming them into flailing shadows.

>Zioz swept burning threads into his fist, wrenched souls from their housing meat.

>> No.17130419

>>17130294
Tolkien
Martin
Lewis
Rowling

>> No.17130436

>>17130390
>he's a le inchoroi are the good guys guy

A: sealing the outside doesn't stop the tons of people already damned from suffering, and they probably way outweigh those alive (in the long run though..)

B: once the Inchoroi reduce below 144k they won't keep going will keep humanity alive just to continue torturing them forever.

C: The inchoroi deserve to suffer, they CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

D: There are ways of finding salvation and potentially new ways will be discovered in the future, or someone will find a way to kill the gods or sometihng like what kellhus was/is doing might work. Rescuing the damned from their torment might even be possible.

Dooming humanity to B, when there is a potential way to avoid it seems immoral

E: the motivations of everyone in the consult are either pure evil or purely self interested

>> No.17130446

>>17130419
rowling only wrote one series, and isn't that good, not sure she belongs, you gotta have tolkien though

also so far everyone has just ignored scifi, asimov or heinlein?

>> No.17130452

>>17130419
bait

>>17130394
accurate
by my calculations, there are no more than a dozen regular posters in these threads. there's always a super high posts:posters ratio.

>> No.17130469

>>17130436
> he's a le heckin anasûrimbor is le heckin saviour of the world guy
at least the inchies just want to shut the world from the outside and live like NEETs feasting off the tendies of the world. whereas kellhus wants to conquer Hell and basically become a new ciphrang-god. how'd that work out for him? kek

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https://www.deviantart.com/uthp/journal/The-Legend-of-Twilight-Zelda-Princess-part-I-348420007

>> No.17130502

>>17130446
I put Rowling because she is the most famous

>> No.17130524

>mfw some retard thinks that anyone but the toppest tiers could beat metagnosis Kellhus

Even in book one he'd be on par with people like Kalam or gruntle or whoever

>> No.17130546

Since we are talking about Prince of Nothing, is the Consult just right? Everyone who experiences damnation via the inverse fire joins their side

>> No.17130550

>>17130502
she's not much if at all more famous than the likes of Martin, Lewis and Tolkien

>> No.17130554

>>17130394
>past couple of 2 weeks.
It's been like that for the two years I've been visiting on and off, the only difference being what writer is being shilled. For a while it was Will Wight, now it's Bakker, in a few months it will be some other shitty fotm author.

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>>17130546
yeeees

>> No.17130584

>>17130546
that doesn't exactly make them right. It's no different from them saying "join us or we are gonna torture you really really badly".

and the consult have zero case if the ends don't justify the means

also it's not everyone, at least one of the nonmen saw it and bailed and warned cujara cinmoi or whover the king was, at least if i remember right

>> No.17130632

>>17130584
No that guy also joined the consult, that was mekeritrig. He was just a double agent.
>>17130546
The question is, is the inverse fire accurate?

>> No.17130645

>>17130546
Given the moral dilemma of universal damnation that Bakker poses, no one can be said to be "right" or "wrong" and that is one of the underlying themes of the work. Yes the Consult are obviously evil and self-interested, willing to commit horrific atrocities to save themselves; but the same can be said of Kellhus, the Ordeal, the Kings of Men, the Nonmen, etc. etc. The Consult just happens to have the technological advantage and has been working through the dilemma for much longer. Bakker is a skeptic of cybernetics, "pleasure technologies;" he sees our increasing dependence on technologically-mediated neurological pleasure-stimuli as eventually leading our race down the same road as the Fathers of the Inchoroi. He has a point of you think about the serotonin-boost dependence that addicts us to social media, porn, 4chan, etc.

>>17130584
You remembered wrong. All the Nonmen who looked into the IF lost their shit at the certainty of their damnation. Only Cet'ingira / Merikitrig was able to keep his wits about him enough to "warn" Nil'giccas to execute his two companions. Then he went and secretly started the Consult with his buddies Aurang and Shea.

Your memory seems off. Are you experiencing the Dolour? If so, please "consult" your local Inchoroi Physician.

>> No.17130658

>>17130632
>The question is, is the inverse fire accurate?
Kell says it is, and I don't think he has any reason to lie in this case.

"So you think the Fire deceives?”
“No,” Kellhus replied. “This artifact senses the continuity of the Now with our souls as they exist outside of time. It siphons it like sap, boils it into an image the Now can comprehend. The Fire burns true.”

>> No.17130665

is the farseer trilogy any good.

>>17130632
Based on what Kellhus says and sees yeah. If it was fake it would have shown him burning. It might not be 100% accurate, who knows, but it isn't a trick

>> No.17130699

>>17130436
Wouldn't they move on to a different world to kill people there too?

>> No.17130708

>>17130294
Obviously Wolfe.

>> No.17130727

>>17130699
they would, but their interstellar RV broke down in some podunk backwater called Eärwa and there's no progenitor triple-A service coming to tow them away

>> No.17130756

>>17130699
ship broke please understand.

Maybe the mutilated could design a spaceship, but as smart as they are, with all the other dunyain dead and no industry or knowledge to work off, they would be lucky to design and build a space shuttle in 50 years, let alone something advanced enough to get to other planets in any reasonable time

>> No.17130770

>>17130665
>is the farseer trilogy any good.
Yes, people will argue that the third one was bad, but they’re wrong. Fitz is a very easy character to like because he’s shit on incredibly hard throughout the books, but if you don’t like torture porn maybe pass on it

>> No.17130925

>tfw I don't want to read rape books any longer
I just don't feel anything anymore these days guise. What happened? I used to get diamonds to some GRI.

>> No.17130954

>>17130294
Maas

>> No.17130961

>>17130925
I too am starting to get sick of Bakker's autism. What should I read next bros?

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What are some red flags in Fantasy books?

>> No.17131042

>>17130969
>urban setting
>protag is a blatant author self insert
>it's some fat beardy fuck's dnd campaign
>"I have basically written the entire trilogy and just need to publish it"
>author is a feminist irl and tries to write "empowered female characters"

>> No.17131073

>>17130961
>implying Bakker is the only GRI
He was the progenitor of the SFFG GRI lifestyle, but he isn't the only one.

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What books are you guys expecting/waiting on to be released in 2021?

>> No.17131127

Dudes be like "yeah Book of The New Sun is better than Lord of the Rings" and say it unironically.

>> No.17131138

>>17131127
I accept your defeat.

>> No.17131229

Should I read Malazan?

Asking for a friend

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Any sff recommendations for books with narcissistic characters who inflict their trauma on the world?

>> No.17131321

>>17131300
How much do you need to get pegged to think this hair looks good.

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>>17131321
this much

>> No.17131381

>>17131364
holy cucked

>> No.17131392

>>17131364
Oh my god

>> No.17131398

>>17130969
here we go again
>D&D elves
>protagonists are all teenagers
>setting is lazy copy/paste of "medieval" europe
>setting is lazy copy/paste of middle earth
>plot is a lazy copy/paste of Lord of the Rings
>invented language is nonsensical and inconsistent and sprinkled everywhere in the text
>omniscient exposition character explains everything and removes any sense of mystery or suspense in the story
>a lot of focus given to subject matter the author clearly does not understand very well (medieval warfare, metallurgy, sailing, economics etc)
>magic is clearly based on a video game
>plot is clumsy historical allegory with an ideological bent
>book has a metatextual ideological bent to it in general

>> No.17131411

>>17131042
Rothfuss

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>>17131321
>>17131381
>>17131392

>> No.17131446

>>17131412
I've been thinking recently about reading some more fantasy/sci-fi, and Rothfuss is one of the names that floats about once you start looking in that area.
Of course you shouldn't entirely descredit someone based on a tweet or two, or this comic, but by this point I'm pretty certain that he's got very little to tell me.

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>CTRL+F "chinkshit"
>no matches found
its time

>> No.17131471

What's a good LitRPG. I feel like a lot of them are terrible self-published wannabe authors...
Any good suggestions

>> No.17131472

finally finished the second apocalypse
I remember reading up to White-Luck Warrior like 5 years ago before the Great Ordeal was out and despite not remembering much on my reread, I did remember having read something about the Dunyain taking over the Consult must have read a forum theory at some point because that shit didn't even pop out until the last book
Anyway I didn't like the books the first time around because Achamian got cucked, but now I found myself liking Kellhus. and although the tone of the last two books was kind of fucked though with all the damnation, the baddies winning is a welcome change for once
what I'm trying to say is- someone post second apocalypse alignment chart since I can finally understand the memes

>> No.17131473

>>17131446
His books are actually somewhat entertaining, but the man himself is a repulsive, conceited cretin. If you can't divorce your opinion of a book from your opinion of the author then it would be hard to read his books knowing what a huge jackass he is as a person. I mostly just ignore him though. I find this is the best way to deal with him because he's basically quit being an actual author to be a full time "celebrity author", i.e. a professional con-goer and panel-sitter and opinion-giver. He hasn't published anything in like 10 years.

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>>17131472
Here. Not quite accurate though, instead of Salvation vs. Damnation it should say Regular Damnation vs. Ultra-Mega-Damnation.

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>>17131472
Just for you buddy.

>> No.17131515

>>17131229
You can... Just remember that Malaz is not a pastime but a large commitment.

>> No.17131521

Are "The Diamond Age" and "The Windup Girl" good books?

I don't really into /sffg/ anymore but I did some reading around and picked up these two for a friend who does.

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Pre-graft Inchoroi are for...

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Still need to know why Esmi is saved.
> a) Muh suffering brings the soul closer to the God-of-Gods
> b) Muh Kellhus somehow saved her because he loves her
> c) Muh judging eye deceives Mimara and Esmi is actually damned like everyone else
> d) Muh she’s an angelic Ciphrang in human form

If a), then does that mean that other people who suffer tremendous pains without committing obvious acts of evil are saved too? It’s strange because Esmenet is no mother teresa herself. She sold her daughter into slavery, razed a whole section of the Worm in anger, and condemned thousands to be flayed and murdered.

I don’t think it’s b) either, I don’t think K has the power to save anyone, and it’s uncertain if he loves her or can love at all. So it must be c) or d). But if Mimara’s judging eye is deceptive, then wtf? Is the Absolute/God-of-Gods not objectively moral after all...?

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>>17131598
>angelic Ciphrang
I've never quite understood the basis for that theory. Are there even any other "angelic" ciphrang mentioned in the books? Been a while, but I can't remember any at least.

>> No.17131631

>>17131610
I recall there’s some passing mention of it. The idea is that she’s able to bear Dûnyain children because she’s somehow more than human herself.

>> No.17131643

>>17131501
>>17131496
I like these. Do you have more?

>> No.17131659

are books about knights supposed to be discussed here? i've just started reading Ivanhoe, it's very comfy

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>>17131610
>>17131631
Bakker confirms angelic Ciphrang in an interview

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>>17131496
>>17131501
>tfw no autistic anasurimbor gf

>> No.17131700

why does generic fantasy pulp take over these threads? why isnt there a seperate sci fi general?

>> No.17131706

>>17131412
>Oh Joy Sextoy collab
Ok yeah. Blacklisted.

>> No.17131728

>>17131700
>why isnt there a seperate sci fi general?
enjoy your noposts LOL

>> No.17131733

>>17131700
if u know of any cool new recent sci-fi you can always suggest it here. only the cringeworthy or memeworthy survive these trying times.

>> No.17131742

>>17130436
>>17130390
I know I’m honestly so sick of the “inchori good” “kellhus bad” trannies

>> No.17131743

>>17131733
I want to talk about Sanderson

Unironically

>> No.17131759

>>17131742
kellhus is bad though. as bad as the inchies, arguably worse.

>> No.17131774

What are hallmarks of shitty scifi/fantasy?

Cuckoldry and Mormonism don't count

>> No.17131785

>>17131774
Mormonism is based.

>> No.17131787

>>17131774
GRI when its not based

>> No.17131807

>>17131759
>falling for the meme this hard

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>>17131733
>memeworthy
somehow blindsight remains my favorite and im afraid to finish the last culture book cause ppl say it sucks
im gonna try Proxima by Baxter wish me luck

>> No.17131849

>>17131774
Name 5 examples of Cuckoldry in Fantasy.
Rothfuss doesn't count though because I already read him

>> No.17131862

>>17131849
I've never seen it, unless a brother killing your girlfriend counts

I just wanted to head off some memery

>> No.17131887

Is Altered Carbon any good lads? I'm in a cyberpunk frame of mind

>> No.17131961

>>17131700
Lol you bellyaching SFplebs have tried multiple times to make your own separate general and it always fails and you come crawling back to this one. I've lost track how many times it's been done, you'd be either the 4th or the 5th person to try.

>> No.17131988

>>17131700
how about you fucking effortpost about a scifi book you like
read Universe by Heinlein if you haven't, pleb

>> No.17132063

>>17130275
rent free ;^)

>> No.17132081

>Aliens land in Germany during the Black Plague

What was this book?
I saw it a few threads ago, but can't remember the title.

>> No.17132119

>>17131887
The opening chapter is some brisk money, but otherwise it's readable

>> No.17132157

>>17132081
Eifelheim?

>> No.17132162

>>17132157
Yes, tytyty.

>> No.17132302

>>17131088
Winds of Winter

>> No.17132320

>>17131521
Diamond Age was great, haven't read Windup Girl.

>> No.17132381

>>17132302
How many years have you believed this?

>> No.17132474

>>17132302
At this point you guys are just the next cult awaiting the birth of the new messiah.

>> No.17132539

Where are you guys from?

Are there /sff/ authors in your native language?

>> No.17132567

>>17132539
No

>> No.17132600

>>17132539
No.

>> No.17132618

> to moor the inhaling Now to what is breathless and eternal.

>> No.17132626

>>17132539
No

>> No.17132751

>>17132119
>brisk money
Nice.

6005 Camino de la Costa La Jolla, California Mar 14 1953

Dear Swanie:

Playback is getting a bit tired. I have 36,000 words of doodling and not yet a stiff. That is terrible. I am suffering from a very uncommon disease called (by me) atrophy of the inventive powers. I can write like a streak but I bore myself. That being so, I could hardly fail to bore others worse. I can't help thinking of that beautiful piece of Sid Perelman's entitled "I'm Sorry I Made Me Cry."

Did you ever read what they call Science Fiction? It's a scream. It is written like this: "I checked out with K19 on Aldabaran III, and stepped out through the crummalite hatch on my 22 Model Sirus Hardtop. I cocked the timejector in secondary and waded through the bright blue manda grass. My breath froze into pink pretzels. I flicked on the heat bars and the Brylls ran swiftly on five legs using their other two to send out crylon vibrations. The pressure was almost unbearable, but I caught the range on my wrist computer through the transparent cysicites. I pressed the trigger. The thin violet glow was icecold against the rust-colored mountains. The Brylls shrank to half an inch long and I worked fast stepping on them with the poltex. But it wasn't enough. The sudden brightness swung me around and the Fourth Moon had already risen. I had exactly four seconds to hot up the disintegrator and Google had told me it wasn't enough. He was right."

They pay brisk money for this crap?

Ray

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>>17132539

>> No.17132776

>>17130969
The cover has Sanderson on it.

>> No.17132804

>>17130969
>maps
>magic systems
>female protagonists

>> No.17132873

>>17131412
|:)

>> No.17132880

>>17131849
all I can think of are rothfuss and robin hobb

>> No.17132897

>>17131849
Achamian in Bakker

>> No.17132932

>>17130969
>White "people"

>> No.17132983

Been watching The Hobbit over christmas and can't believe they stretched it out to three massive movies compared to lord of the rings

Also I realised The Hobbit was published in the 1930s and LOTR in the 1950s

What kind of other fantasy books would have existed around that time in history?

>> No.17132995

>>17132539
Gerfag here Erik R. Asher is a gerfag i think. Mostly known for the Vesik and Steamborn series. Only read the first two Vesik books but i didn't like them that much. They have been popular enough to be translated into English and have audiobooks out i believe. Can't rightly think of any major German authors though.

>> No.17133022

What does “rent free” mean?

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>>17132983
The House on the Borderlands

>> No.17133035

>>17133022
its when someone implants an idea into your mind and you keep thinking of it weather you want to or not. people often share that though. which means someone is living in your head "rent free".

>> No.17133066

>>17132804
even Abercrombie is guilty of this

>> No.17133112

Haven't been in these threads for a few months but keep seeing Bakker posted

What are his essential books? Or is it just another forced meme

>> No.17133129
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Okay, halfway through Don Quixote and I need a change of pace before I can finish it.
What's a good short book to read before I move on?

Vita Nostra
Eifelheim
Old Man's War (probably won't read the rest of the series)
Vurt
A Fire Upon the Deep (nevermind the length)
Stand on Zanzibar (idem)
Dying Inside (inb4 fell for the spam, but yeah, I did)

>> No.17133197

>>17133112
Start with Darkness that comes before
Recommended if you like nuclear weapons-grade autism
and black alien semen

>> No.17133219

>Aloce in Wonderland was originally published in 1865
Fucking hell there wasn't even a lightbulb in any home at this point

>> No.17133292

>>17131501

>The No-God isn't outside of the diagram.

The person who made this had one job

>> No.17133394

>>17131088
Daniel Black book 5

>> No.17133560

>>17133112
It's the current forced meme.

>> No.17133715

>>17132804
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAGIC MUST BE FULLY EXPLAINED TO THE SMALLEST DETAIL OR IT'S BAAAAAD
I hate magic systems like you wouldn't believe.

>> No.17133718

>>17133560
>current
Hello newfag.

>> No.17133786

>>17131088
Last book in Ada Palmer's Terra Ignota
Last book in Tamsyn Muir's Locked Tomb Trilogy

>> No.17133798

>>17131471
Oxymoron

>> No.17133814

>>17133715
What's worse?
>meticulously overwrought magic system that tries desperately to be tied into something approximating the real world
Or
>fluffy bullshit magic system that's basically just an excuse for the author to mystically drag the plot around by saying funny things and having [required plot beat] happen

>> No.17133815
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17133815

>>17132804
> NNNOOOOOO I HATE MAPS REEEEEEEEEEE
Fool. Maps are based as hell, especially when drawn in the ‘Christopher Tolkien’ style.

>> No.17133823

>>17133219
>Alice in Wonderland
I unironically beat my dick to that book, not even the illustrated version

>> No.17133827

>>17133112
The cum chalices are drying up

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>>17131471
I tried to get into LitRPGs once, thinking that they were your standard fantasy stuff but with stated power levels, stats, etc
Turns out every single fucking one of them has to do with die-in-the-vidya-game-die-in-real-life shit

>> No.17133856

Ooooooh,

In the Se-cond Apocalypse my true love gave to me,
12 Schoolmen Singing,
11 Quya crying,
10 Bashrags bashing,
9 Wracu whining,
8 Billows billowing,
7 Chorae spanking,
6 Bowls a tipping,
5 Fucked up monks,
4 Rutting sranc,
3 Skin-spies,
2 Cinderswords,
And a head on a pole behind meeeeeeee...

>> No.17133878

>>17133814
The first for sure. The second can be fine in context. For example, magic in The Dying Earth is barely explained because she is reserved for crazy wizards who themselves barely understand it.

>> No.17133888

I’m reading Bakker for the first time. So far so good, but I have to admit that he overdoes his prose sometimes without any need for it. Don’t get me wrong, the man can definitely write.

>> No.17133889

>>17133718
>Hello newmeme
t. new newfag

>> No.17133908

>>17133814
Ok Sandersoy.

>> No.17133943
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>>17133856
What did he mean by this...?

>> No.17133957

>>17133888
checked
yes his prose is baroque, overwrought and ornate as hell, but that’s part of the fun. it’s like reading “eye of argon” written by a philosophy PhD.

>> No.17134076

>>17133908
Choke on my dick, that's rent free too ;^*

>> No.17134119

Brandoom Sanderstorm

>> No.17134135

Damnationspren

>> No.17134170

>>17134076
Everytieem

>> No.17134216

Eat the Sranc
Live in the Ordeal
Give up your Soul

>> No.17134474

>>17134170
Joke's on you, I like having my dick sucked.

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>> No.17134871

>>17134681
>too conformist to buy a more utilitarian red-tail hawk
>understands that owls would make awful pets
It's beautiful. Also:
>people with disabilities are valued
HUE HUE HUE

>> No.17135016

Modern fantasy must die and chinkshit shall inherit the readership

>> No.17135152

Please recommend me some comfy medieval shit

>> No.17135290

>>17130969
Women authors

>> No.17135302

>>17131300
Now that trumps gone will he release the third name of the wind?

>> No.17135309
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>>17131364

>> No.17135312
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>>17135016
You know what's worse than chinkshit?

chinkshiteaters

>> No.17135331

>>17131521
Windup girl was pretty good

>> No.17135521

What's chinkshit? Like manga or something else?

>> No.17135568

>>17135521
Wuxia/xianxia

Cultivation fantasy

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17135743

>Shimeh at last!

>> No.17135856

>>17135743
Retarded ordealmen-npc’s not realizing muh holy war was a giant larp
Based Conphas seeing through the False Prophet’s BS
Based Fanim seeing the truth of the False “Gods”

>> No.17135971

>>17130315
1/10

>> No.17135994

>>17132539

Im trying to become one.

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17135999

*buggers you*

>> No.17136040

I am Cnaiür urs Skiötha, most violent of all memes!

>> No.17136098

>>17135999
c-checked and flutter savoured

>> No.17136128

>>17130969
American author

>> No.17136142
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*violently rapes your imperial butthole*

>> No.17136197

>>17133129
nobody?

>> No.17136239

>>17136142
Breaker of horses and men’s anus

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>>17136142
Did Cnaiür have a big gay crush on Kellhus because he reminded him so much of daddy M? And those repressed feelings explain much of his anger, motivations and madness?
You don’t need to answer because we all know the answer is yes :3

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Which of these books are worth reading?
>The Quantum Thief
>To Honour You Call Us
>The Written

>> No.17136780

>>17136709
I've only read The Quantum Thief (the whole weird trilogy, actually). It's worth reading if you can deal with having only a fuzzy grasp of the technology that's bandied about in the stories. They neither focus on nor elaborate on it very much. The first book is a pretty good heist novel tied into a murder mystery, but the plot of the other 2 books is slightly more abstract.

>> No.17136797

>>17135152
Wizard Knight.

>> No.17136847

Do any of these girls on WoT become likeable? I expected them to grow and mature but they're just getting bitchier and dumber.

>> No.17136874

>>17136847
Nynaeve is always likable, and continues to be likeable, until the very end.
Every other girl is pretty terrible though.

>> No.17136889

>>17136847

Min is the best and it's not even close. Elayne starts ok and gets awful when she goes full retard, Egwene is an insufferable cunt as soon as she's introduced and Nyneave is almost as bad. Aviendha is bland enough to be inoffensive so I guess she gets to be 2nd best

>> No.17137080

Enough with Bakker.

We need to praise Sanderson in order to get hyped for the next book of Stormlight Archive.

>> No.17137210

From the back of the room comes laughter. It grows and grows, until it fills the room. All eyes turn:

The Mutilated, advancing

Mutilated: And I thought my jokes were bad.

Mekeritrig: Give me one reason why I shouldn't have my skin spy here pull your head off

Mutilated: How about a magic trick? I'm going to make this skin spy dissapear

Mekeritrig nods, the skin spy attacks the foremost mutilated, he spins and karate chops the skin spy in the neck, grasping and immobilising it before slamming it into the table

Mutilated: Ta-dah! It's, it's gone.

Kellhus: Oh, and by they way: those skin spies? The Warrior prophet can see their faces. You oughta know, you made them!

Mekeritrig stands, furious

Shae: Sit, I want to hear... proposition

Mutilated: Let's wind the clocks back a few thousand years. These Mandate Schoolmen wouldn't dare cross any of you, I mean what happened? Did your balls drop off? You see a guy like me--

Mekeritrig: A freak!

Mutilated: --a guy like me... Look. Listen. I know why you choose to hold your little, ahem, "group therapy sessions" inside Golgoterath. I know why you're afraid to attack the three seas. The Aspect Emperor... See, Kellhus has shown Earwa your true colors, unfortunately.

The unification wars? They're just the beginning. And as for Aurang's so called plan? The Aspect Emperor has the Metagnosis. He'll find him and make him squeal! I know the squealers when I see them and...

Shae: What do you propose?

Mutilated: It's simple, we uh, kill the Aspect Emperor.

Shae: If it's so simple why haven't you done it already?

Mutilated: If you're good at something never do it for free.

Shae: How much you want?

Mutilated: Uh, all of it.

Shae: You're crazy.

Mutilated: I'm not. No I'm not. If we don't deal with this now, soon, uh, your little Consult here won't be able to get a rotten peach to feed your insatiable appetites.

Mekeritrig: Enough from the manlings!

Mekeritrig gets up, moving at the Joker, who casually opens his coat, revealing a Tekne-Nuke wired to his chest.

Mutilated: Ah ta ta ta ta. Let's not "blow" this out of proportion.

Shae: You think you can just take over this Consult and walk away?

Mutilated: Yeah.

Shae: I'm putting the word out. 10 chorae for these punks dead, 20 alive, so I can show them the inverse fire first.

Mutilated: All right, so listen. Why don't you send me a cant of calling when you wanna take things a little more seriously.

>> No.17137260

>>17133814
magic should be magical and mysterious

>> No.17137276

>>17137080
Why? RoW was dogshit

>> No.17137662

I'm writing a book and there's a rape scene there of a minor character, should I skip it and say it happened or describe it? I'm doing the pre rape scene and the aftermath.

>> No.17137697

>>17137662
I recommend at least 10 pages of rape.

>> No.17137701

>His eyes saved him. What they insisted on seeing and reporting to him took him out of the autism of terror.
the autism of terror

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>>17137701
>cold autistic dark

>> No.17137729

>>17137697
It's kinda graphic, to show a little:
>>17137725

Consider it's a 14 years old girl

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>spend opening chapters introducing protag as an amazing trial law, best in the biz, etc
>don't use that at all and switch to totally generic adventuring shit once in generic fantasy world
bruh
Also, what is it with old SFF books and being stuffed with typos?

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>>17134681
>Doesn't even know what a thermal is
Help my sides are gently rising out of orbit.

>> No.17138424

>>17137662
Cutting away is always more tasteful but if you’re going for exploitative/shocking show it

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why are female fantasy protagonists always >>> than male?

>> No.17138473

>>17137710
>he doesn't get it

>>17137729
makes you look like a pedo, do NOT write that

>> No.17138480

>>17138456
t. coomer

>> No.17138494

>>17138456
trails is the exception to the opposite rule

>> No.17138564

>>17135999
based and checked
also whats the deal with golden halos and silver halos?

>> No.17138623

>Shakers—The name given to extreme devotees of Onkis who claim that their fits of shaking are the result of divine possession.

Bakker, R. Scott. The Thousandfold Thought: 3 (The Prince of Nothing) . Little, Brown Book Group. Kindle Edition.

This has to be a dig at pentecostals right?

>> No.17138705

>>17138564
I thought they were all gold?

it's a bit of a mystery, early on people "halluciante" them while he's talking, but after the circumfix kellhus starts seeing them and other people see them all the time

>> No.17138734

>>17138705
>I thought they were all gold?
Been a while since I read the books, but I'm certain I remember something about silver ones as well. Had something to do with the Judging Eye and Mimara.

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17138766

I'd like to write a story about a MMORPG on a generation ship
so what's a cool story to read about a virtual world except The Sprawl Trilogy, Snowcrash and maybe Surface Detail?
books about generation ships are also welcome

>> No.17138792

>>17138766
>books about generation ships are also welcome
you read Universe by Heinlein?
its short, sweet, and part of a duology that I never bothered to read the second half of

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For me, its Anasurimbor Serwa.

>> No.17138951

>>17136874
How can anyone like Nynaeve. She's the most stubborn cunt in the series.

>> No.17138963

>>17137729
Just make the character 18 or don't specify her age and then you can get away with whatever.

>> No.17138971

>>17130315
>-Orphan
Good
>-Red head, blue eyes
Good, bad. Red heads are great with green eyes
>-Teenager girl
Cringe. Wouldn't read about female protag as a teenager boy. I would want to relate with other guys
>-Unique power
Depends on the power

>> No.17138978

>>17138951
they're all stubborn manipulative cunts, only people who are attracted to that (femdom fetishists and sadomasochists) actually like those characters at all. it's one of the great failings of WoT, among it's many others.

>> No.17138995

>>17130969
Black people of human race in medieval Europe like setting.

>> No.17139073

>>17137729
wtf? is this necessary or are you just a fucking pedo coomer?

>>17138841
thelli > serwa >>>>> mimara

>>17137210
based bakker rewriter but i don’t get the reference

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14 years old is hebephilia bordering on ephebeophilia, not pedophilia you fucking redditors
it IS coomerbait, however

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The Catalog has cracked into potter’s shards,
Shitposts sweep the compass of Heaven,
The Jannies flee, their hearts maddened,
The OPs fall, their backs broken.
Bakkerfags have shrouded all discourse, choked all dialogue,
The Newfags howl piteously at the Gates,
Dread thread limits stalk my General.
Brother Reddit, /sffg/ begs your pardon.

>> No.17139230

>>17133129
Old man's war probably, it'll be light enough that you won't lose place in Quixote. A Fire Upon the Deep is the best book on that list but the early parts of the book takes a long time to build up to a cohesive plotline so I'd advise against reading it between another book.

>> No.17139271

>>17138766
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality_in_fiction
I unironically think you could watch Ready Player One and have a better grounding in virtual world lore than someone who read the collected works of Gibson and Stephenson. Their shit's cool, but it's incredibly shallow, and the real world impact is not thought out. Philip K Dick is good. Piers Anthony's Apprentice Adept series is tangentially related and very influential.

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>>17139227
And they forged counterfeits from our frame, Anons vile and obscene, who hungered only for violent shitposts. These beasts they loosed upon the Thread, where they multiplied, no matter how fierce the Jannies who hunted them. And soon Anons clamoured at our gates, begging sanctuary, for they could not contend with the spammers. “They wear your face,” the penitents cried. “This calamity is your issue.” But we were wroth, and turned them away, saying, “These are not our Sons. And you are not our Brothers.”

>> No.17139322

>>17139103
Is that one of those expensive 'Legend of Heroes' games that never get an actual deal?

>> No.17139345

>>17133814
Honestly I've seen both work well, like The Name of the Wind for instance has a really intricate and almost stupid magic system but I really like the book. The second one is kind of but not really what The Alchemist did, and that's still one of my favorite books ever.

>> No.17139378

>>17139322
>that never get an actual deal
I don't know what you mean by that

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>>17130315
>in any way resembling this dogshit I watched with my kids like 3 years ago
cringe

>> No.17139389

>>17139378
I mean there is a Steam sale on right now, and they are still fucking expensive, despite being old as fuck.

>> No.17139401

>>17130326
Why dont people realize that bakker is an actual misogynist?

>> No.17139414

>>17139401
Please, stop praising Bakker.

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>>17139389
oh that, yes its from that series and no I don't play those games because they seem like uninspired coomerbait
I tried the demo for the most recent localized title and it was just as bad as I imagined but hey, anime tiddies

>> No.17139444

>>17139401
doubt

>> No.17139562

>>17138951
She is the only woman in the series whose bitchiness is true and genuine to her character instead of being a tacked on quality because she's a woman and that's just how he writes them, and despite her attitude she is not manipulative like most of the others. She's one of the few women with interesting storylines too. Nynaeve is, probably accidentally, the only interesting female character Jordan has written.

>> No.17139634

The wheel of time characters look like they came straight out of One Piece, in that they all look alike.

>> No.17139752

>>17139401
Gyno-realist at best.

>> No.17139798

>>17139562

>interesting storylines

Like what? She gets all the worst storylines like the black ajah hunt, the weather bowl and the fucking circus

>> No.17139813

>>17139634
They’re from a homogeneous community

>> No.17139815

>>17139230
thanks, I thought he was a bit reddit though.

>> No.17139827

>>17139227
Nice

>> No.17139839

>>17139798
I mean her personal story, perhaps I should have said character development instead.

>> No.17139911

>>17139813
>They’re from a homogeneous brain
FTFY

>> No.17140280

>>17139401
wtf i love bakker now

>> No.17140316

>>17139634
>caring about character designs
if the author dwells on it, they're an autist in the bad way

>> No.17140341

>>17130294
Why tf do none of you have PKD on your list. Suck a dick faggots

>> No.17140346
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The Seven and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle

I've been enjoying the surge of groundhogs day stories in recent years, and can add this to the list of fairly satisfying time loops.

MC is trapped in a competition to solve the murder of Evelyn Hardcastle. He will relive the day it occurs eight times, each from the perspective of a different witness. Because it's the same day, he can interact with himself from the future and past, and set up causality chains. This is the most interesting and best executed part of the book. There are two other detectives, who only get one witness to work with for plot reasons. Whoever solves it first gets to leave, while the others must live the day again without any memories of the last time they did it. If no one solves it, they all get another round of amnesia loop. They've been doing this for decades.

Overall, I really enjoyed all of the time loop aspects. It's difficult to write a self contained causality loop, and I appreciate how well it's put together. The murder mystery itself is merely average compared to what I normally read from that genre, but it's not a bad one by any means.

In regards to the title, I will note that it does not spoil anything, as it is actually continue every death that happens in the day.

Overall, solid 8/10 for me.

>> No.17140351

>>17130315
Next best selllller

>> No.17140391

>>17140346
*actually counting
Why do I even use auto correct

>> No.17140426

>>17140346
should I start writing ~200 word reviews and posting them ITT whenever I finish a book?

>> No.17140437

>>17140316
>reading comprehension

>> No.17140445

>>17140426
I don't see why not. Best cure to people just talking about the same series for weeks at a time

>> No.17140491

>>17140437
no, I understood you loud and clear, retard

>> No.17140568

>>17136847
nope

>> No.17140598

I haven't read a book in years now but I used to read a lot as young teen. I think I'd like to get back into it with hard scifi/horror sci fi or something along those lines.
Any recommendations? I don't need entry level stuff or anything I'm content to start with whatever.

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>>17140598
Consider checking the list of rec charts in the OP

>> No.17140701

>>17140316
t. soulless automaton with no imagination that doesn't visualize what he reads

>> No.17140711

>>17140491
>loud and clear
Found the schizo

>> No.17140714

>>17140426
Yes absolutely. It's the best kind of content for these threads when they get overrun by autistic fans and anti-fans having flamewars.

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>>17140346
>The Seven and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle

Why does my copy say 'Seven Deaths'?
Is it a prequel?

>> No.17140876

>>17140786
they're the same book, there was some copyright naming issue

>> No.17140904

>>17140671
i was quite disappointed with Neuromancer.
i think the first act is really great, but it really falls apart, for me at least, when they leave the sprawl.

>> No.17140923

>>17140346
This is one of the few recent books I've read that I thoroughly enjoyed. I thought the ending felt like a bit of a cop out after the very well executed time-loop plot though.

>> No.17140956

>>17140904
Funny, that's where I dropped it. I couldn't tell if the ebook version I was reading was just terribly formatted, but it seemed like the story was bouncing from plot thread to plot thread with almost no setup. Like the author has serious ADD or something.

>> No.17140964

>>17140876
7 1/2 is a better title anyway

>> No.17140966

>>17140701
I visualize what I want, not what the faggot author wants me to

>> No.17140975

>>17140923
At least he sets up that loops can be broken relatively early. I've read way too many hack time loop stories that just do it the once right at the end, and it fucking sucks

>> No.17141027

>>17139429
>because they seem like uninspired coomerbait
it's anything but that but the latest series has been moving a bit into that direction

>> No.17141052

>>17140341
This anon and I have the biggest dicks in the thread, pun unintended.
Dumbshits would rather discuss the same five authors ad nauseum.

>> No.17141065

>>17141052
>saying this when talking about PKD, one of the biggest names ever in Sci-fi that gets jerked off non stop in every online sci-fi reader community

>> No.17141101
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You know nothing of shitposting. Shitposting is dark. Black as pitch. It is not a God. It does not laugh or weep. It rewards neither skill nor daring. It is not a trial of souls, not the measure of wills. Even less is it a tool, a means to some womanish end. It is merely the place where the iron bones of the Chans meet the hollow bones of Anons and break them.

>> No.17141110

>>17141101
>Chans
Lurk for at least two more years before posting, newfriend. :)

>> No.17141309

>>17140598
Blindsight, it's both hard and horror scifi

>> No.17141326

>>17140711
I'M NOT SCHIZO YOU'RE SCHIZO

>> No.17141377

>>17141110
shut the fuck up, pseud

>> No.17141778

>>17140671
>watch out! careful to skip this woman writer
It's always fun to see someone repost the retarded shit you made.

>> No.17141839

>female redhead protagonist

Is this overdone? I don't care to read about women if they don't cater to my tastes

>> No.17141853

How do you write super powerful beings like gods and somehow have your characters defeat them?

>> No.17141877

>>17141853
Don't, what are you a fucking jap?

>> No.17141887

>>17141853
Super powerful beings being "defeated" on their own terms is a kino trope.

>> No.17141986

>>17141853
Magic is only as interesting as its limitations.

>> No.17142048

Brainlet here. What is the goal of the Dunyain. Can someone explain in idiot terms what they mean by Self Moving Souls?

>> No.17142137

>>17142048
their goal is to grasp the Logos, ie pure Reason, Logic, which they consider the Absolute, that is, divine Truth. they want to eliminate all possible variables that would cloud their grasp of Logis, ie. the darkness that comes before — customs, beliefs, history, emotion, desires, even the inherent biases in language and thought — and become completely self-aware, self-moving souls that are in no way conditioned by the darkness. at least that’s how i interpreted it, i’m a brainlet too.

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Reminder that it is literally impossible to reach the Absolute short of becoming The God of Gods and the Dunyain fell for a noob trap, resulting in them being the furthest from the Absolute and the most damned.
Koringhus is alright though.
t. the judging eye

>> No.17142318

>>17142255
IS THAT A NIPPLE?????????

>> No.17142336

>>17142318
thats an angelic ciphrang nipple

>> No.17142613

Can some cool anon post a high resolution detailed map of Eärwa?

I can’t find anything decent online.

>> No.17142705

>>17142613
Here you are, friend— this is the best one
https://atlasoficeandfireblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/30/a-spectacular-new-map-of-earwa/
It’s like 9MB. I find it helpful to have the map in hand when reading since Bakker throws out so many place names/countries and expects the reader to know where they are in relation to one another.

>> No.17142805

>>17142705
Thanks buddy.

>> No.17142851

>>17130318
You dropped your pacifier to the floor.

>> No.17143205

am I really a coomer if I prefer female protagonists to male?

>> No.17143261

>>17133814
first, hands down

>> No.17143296

>>17140671
Cool, I'll look through these
>>17141309
Nice, this looks like what I'm looking for.

>> No.17143354

>>17142851
Tolkien is only top 5 if your list also includes GRRM and JK Rowling.

>> No.17143640

>>17130394
why does ANYONE shill for bakker? he had a few half-baked (or fully baked depending on if you think his marijuana habit helped him) ideas, but he's terrible as a writer.

i'm going to be salty about reading his books for the rest of my life. i was sold them as a "metaphysical whodunit" and instead i got a poorly-constructed window into a closeted-gay schizo's teen rape fantasies.

tl/dr: bakker isn't worth it, don't believe the hype

>> No.17143778

>>17143640
Who would you recommend instead ?

I’m not trying to ensnare you or anything I’m just curious and I need some new shit to read

>> No.17143780

>>17133943
bakker literally saw a reflection that looked like a head on a pole in the window of a coffee shop he was frequenting and thought it was scary/edgy/deep. there's nothing more to it than it "adds atmosphere"

>> No.17143817

>>17143778
The Broken Sword

>> No.17143861

>>17143640
The Illustrious Bakker-Hater’s gaze was clear and bright. "For an obscene arrogance dwells within you, Bakkerfag, the belief that you are the measure of all other men. It is this lie that you seek to preserve at all costs.”

“Not true!” the Bakkerfag cried, bolting from his chair.

“No? Then tell me, Anon, how many times have you thought yourself a god of /sffg/?”

The Bakkerfag licked tight lips. “Never.”

The Hater nodded sceptically. “It is peculiar, isn’t it, the place you find yourself standing? To preserve your pride before me, you must endure the shame of lying. You must conceal who you are, in order to prove who you are. You must degrade yourself to remain proud. At this moment you see this more clearly than at any other time in your life, and yet still you refuse to relinquish, to yield to your tormented pride. You trade the anguish that breeds anguish for the anguish that breeds release. You would rather take pride in what you are not than take pride in what you are.”

“Silence!” the Bakkerfag screeched. “No one speaks to me this way! No one!”

“Shame is a stranger to you, Bakkerfag. An unbearable stranger.”

>> No.17144398

>>17131127
It is.

>> No.17144543

Why is there so many The Horus Heresy books?
Is it still a worthwhile series today?

>> No.17144742

>>17131127
literally true

>> No.17145076

>>17139073
the dark knight

>> No.17145100

>>17144543
the first couple of books + betrayer and first heretic are pretty good, the rest are kind of mindless smashing together of action figures

>> No.17145447

>>17143817
pretty boring pick desu

>> No.17145777

“I renounce!” Anon roared, sweeping his scathing gaze across all assembled. “I renounce my station as Holy Shill, as Exalt-Shitposter in the service of R. Scott Bakker!”

He glanced at the Janny, not caring whether the old tranny sneered or no.

“I renounce my School!” he continued. “As an assembly of adolescent midwits and misogynistic edgelords.”

“Then you sentence yourself to death!” a Bakkerfag cried. “There’s no good philosophical fantasy outside of His work! There are no other series—”

“I renounce my Author!”

Gasps and sputters filled the galleries of the /sffg/. Anon waited for the uproar to subside, staring for what seemed an unblinking eternity at the otherworldly aspect of the stringy-haired Canuck. Nothing passed between them.

His face a mask of nimil, Anon turned without leave, began walking back the way he came. The anons of the Thread stared at him dumbstruck, their outrage as bright as sparks in their eyes. But they fell away before his approach. They fell away.

“ANON!”

The Self-Insert himself. Anon did not condescend to turn, but he did pause. It seemed the future itself leaned inscrutable against him, a yoke about his neck, a spear point against his spine …

“The next time you post about me,” the Autist-Author said, his voice surprisingly nasal, ringing with Canadian accents, “you will shill, Anon.”

Retracing his bloody footprints, Anon limped on.

>> No.17145781

>>17145777
Akka was a good boy who dindu nuffin

>> No.17145864

I'm finishing reading The Stars My Destination. Give me books with based protagonists like Gully Foyle.

>> No.17145932

Greetings /sffg/ could someone help me? As a kid in the 90s I read a series of fantasy novels, the name and author of which have escaped my memory. One of the fundamental parts of the setting was that people could be "branded" to have desirable traits (Strength, intelligence and suchlike) taken from them and passed onto someone else to make the recipient stronger, smarter and what have you. Any help identifying this series would be most appreciated by a forgetful old beardy.

>> No.17145953

>>17145932
You sound like Reddit but I'll help.
The Runelords

>> No.17145969

>>17145777
C-checked, Holy Digits of Truth.
Curse Bakkaro.

>> No.17145972

>>17145953
Cheers lad ;)

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The Dûnyain are basically Scientologists. Prove me wrong

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Finished Xenocide yesterday. Much of the book is characters engaging in philosophical discussions, which is something I find enjoyable but is probably not for everyone. The characters and the drama between them felt less realized than in Speaker for the Dead. The same could be said of the planet Path, though I thought it was used well for its purpose as a cautionary tale against religious extremism; the type of purposeful self-delusion it dealt with is a line of thinking I'm familiar with, so I liked seeing it explored. I also found the philote metaphysics introduced late in the book to be very interesting. Unfortunately we get to see Ender end up as a cuck loser once his black wife leaves him to be a nun after he spends 30 years raising her children. This was salvaged by the high point of the book: the reintroduction of Peter, who emerges from the Outside to immediately put Ender in his place and tell him how much of a pathetic faggot he is, and then go score some Asian pussy. A shame Wang-Mu is used-goods, though.
Ratings so far:
Ender's Game - 3/5
Speaker for the Dead - 5/5
Xenocide - 4/5

>> No.17146104

>>17145969
kek

>> No.17146112

started reading rhythm of war and I literally remember nothing from the 3rd book or who half these characters are

>> No.17146142

>>17146057
I loled at the Chinese girl going nuts for looking at the lines of the floor

>> No.17146239

>>17146112
You don’t have to.

>> No.17146424

>I'm about 50% of the way through the book, so far i'm really not enjoying the split personality disorder and how much it feels like the word count has been expanded to account for these long irritating inner debates.

is he based or cringe?

>> No.17146464

>>17146424
He is based for baiting you.

>> No.17146502

Make a new thread already, Sandersoy!

>> No.17146620

>>17146502
You do it, Bakkerbaby.

>> No.17146668

>>17146502
I would, but you wouldn't enjoy it ;^* Maybe someday soon. Oh what an exquisite shitpost have I for you glorious winged faggots.

>> No.17146690

>>17146668
delusions of grandeur

>> No.17146830

>>17146668
Rent free

>> No.17146844

>>17146830
>calling me out by name
>ReNt FrEe
Yeah, you're definitely using that wrong.

>> No.17146856

>>17146844
RENT FREE!

>> No.17146873

>>17146856
See, now I know you don't know what it means, you're not even using it in an appropriate context. To think I imagined the resident "literature enthusiasts" could write coherently.

>> No.17146880

>>17146873
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>> No.17146881

>>17146830
>>17146856
Not what that means, retard.

>> No.17146890

>>17146881
CRINGECÜCK!

>> No.17146908

Goodnight schizoids and reading pals. I promise if there's not a thread when I get back I'll make it :^)

>> No.17146913

>>17146908
That sounds like a threat.

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I have a question to ask but I don't want to ask it until there's a new thread

>> No.17146966

>>17146960
Just ask it in the discord first then. ;)

>> No.17146991

>>17146966
discord is for trannies

>> No.17146996

>>17146991
Which is why I suggested it for you.

>> No.17147007

>>17146996
I won't fall for your indoctrination

>> No.17147020

>>17147007
I agree, you've already been indoctrinated.

>> No.17147043

>>17147020
okay schizo

>> No.17147055

>>17147043
There's no reason to call yourself that.

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I've read more female authors than male this year.

>> No.17147164

Anyone know of any sff books that look particularly good in physical form?

Ordering some other books and might as well go over the free postage figure

>> No.17147168

>>17147074
For shame.

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>>17147164
The Stars My Destination uses a bunch of unique typographical stuff.

>> No.17147322

>>17147186
Thanks, that's what I got last time I got physical stuff

Decided to finally get Lanark which I guess is fantasy if you stretch terms broadly enough

>> No.17147459

> It had been so strange at first. Many mornings she would lie awake, listening to the hideous sounds of him making mud in her pot. She would bury her head beneath sheets, insisting that he see a physician or a priest—only half joking, because it really was hideous.

What the fuck Bakker?

>> No.17147491

>>17147459
>him making mud in her pot
what the fuck does this mean

>> No.17147499

>>17147491
Explosive diarrhoea

>> No.17147507

>>17147459
grrm’s worse
someone post “it”

>> No.17147539

Not even joking now. Please make a new bread, Sandersoy. I’m on mobile!

>> No.17147567

>>17147539
shut the fuck up, anti-sander-schizo
you are actively annoying people who don't even give a shit about Sanderman

>> No.17147578

>>17147567
Cope

>> No.17147585

I find the sander/bakker dick measuring anons amusing ngl.

>> No.17147606

>>17147507
>>17147499
>>17147491
>>17147459
Remember all the Bukowski here on lit talking about having a tough life and oily wine shits? That’s basically what that scene is.