5 books to understand everything

[Anonymous No.17127375]

If you had to give someone five books to understand everything; world, reality, society and nature, what would those books be? They don’t have to be non-fiction, though non-fiction would probably make more sense.
> inb4 YOU CAN’T UNDERSTAND
> inb4 YOU CAN’T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING WITH JUST 5 BOOKS
it’s a hypothetical question for book recommendations

[Anonymous No.17127387]

>>17127375
they would only need my diary desu

[Anonymous No.17127389]

>>17127375
The Bible
The Ethics
On The Origin of Species
The Culture of Critique
Moby-Dick

[Anonymous No.17127392]

>>17127375
ill do it in 4
>Critique of Pure Reason - Kant
>The Bible
>War and Peace - Tolstoy
>Hamlet - Shakespeare

[Anonymous No.17127404]

bible
oresteia
lotus sutra
walden
dianetics

[Anonymous No.17127420]

>>17127389
all of them but moby dick and the bible
>>17127392
Kant
>>17127404
>walden

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.17127431]

>>17127389
>Bible
Over your quota

Up to date books on physics, biology, etc. but making a separate list that’s not quite so dull
Homer’s Odyssey
Campbell’s Hero with a Thousand Faces
Stirner’s Unique and its Property
Portable Nietzsche
Melville’s Moby Dick

[Anonymous No.17127451]

>>17127375
The Denial of Death

The Prince

Hadith

The Quran

Euclid, Apollonius, Nicomachus

[Anonymous No.17127664]

>>17127375
1. The Last Messiah by Peter Zapffe
2. The Moral Animal by Robert Wright
3. Microeconomics, any textbook
4. The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins
5. The Practicing Stoic by Ward Farnsworth

[Anonymous No.17127669]

>>17127375
Anything by Marx or by Freud

[Anonymous No.17127692]

>>17127431
>up to date books on physics, biology, etc.
do you not see the irony in that sentence?

[Anonymous No.17127706]

>>17127692
Explain

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17127711]

The Bible(if you must chop it up, the wisdom lit and the gospels)
Complete Plato
The Road to Reality By penrose
The complete Hegel or just his Science of Logic
Complete William Blake.

The Bible will give you all of the moral, social, spiritual and so forth knowledge you could possibly need.

Plato will instruct you in how to properly think and on likely the most influential western philosophical system as a whole.

Penrose is considered one of our greatest living scientists and his book is an attempt at trying to bring people up to speed at where his view of reality is at.

Hegel’s the most developed idealist philosopher and no one has ever been able to adequately dismantle his science of logic’s ontology.

Blake will offer you powerful insights into poetry, the mystical world, the duality of innocence and experience and will divide and re-unity man many times over throughout the course of his work.

[Anonymous No.17127763]

>>17127420
Awful taste stfu

[Anonymous No.17127885]

The Bible
The Brothers Karamazov
War and Peace
Infinite Jest
And well the Darwin book

[Anonymous No.17127899]

5 of any of these books will do.

[Anonymous No.17127910]

>>17127664

[Anonymous No.17127911]

>>17127899
>Lauren Southern

[Anonymous No.17127915]

>>17127375
I will mix books with Poetry if that is fine
>Don Quixote
>The Bible
>Journey to the end of night
>Essays by Michel De Montaigne
>The Faerie Queen

[Anonymous No.17127928]

>>17127885
lol how are you gonna justify infinite jest being on there man

[Anonymous No.17127954]

five dictonaries of english french german latin and ancient greek

[Anonymous No.17127960]

>>17127915
>the faerie queene
holy based

>>17127404
>walden
What did you actually get out of thoreau? It's a comfy read, sure; but all of it is fairly self evident. I mean, he straight up spends a chapter on autistic pond-measuring.

For me it's
>The Bible
>The Summa, hopefully in 4 volumes

[Anonymous No.17127999]

>>17127911
how in the fuck do people like this get published

[Anonymous No.17128008]

>>17127451
Hadith alone is minimum 6 books, unless you're just reading the Riyaadh-as-Saliheen or something

[Anonymous No.17128015]

>>17127911
>Milo Yiannopoulos is somehow a better author and he wrote the same type of book she did

[Anonymous No.17128030]

>>17127999
By virtue of being a woman

[Anonymous No.17128098]

>>17127928
Consumerism, drug issues, nature of reality, just because it's new does not mean it's bad. It tackles relevant themes in the postmodern world

[Anonymous No.17128174]

>>17127375
You only need these 2 books op

[Anonymous No.17128208]

>>17127711
>Road to Reality
based

[Anonymous No.17128298]

>>17128174

[Anonymous No.17128451]

Tanakh
Talmud
Darwin, The Origin of Species
Murray, Human diversity
Taleb, Antifragile

[Anonymous No.17128459]

Bible
The Upanishads
On the Origin of Species
The Culture of Critique
Modernity and Cultural Decline

[Anonymous No.17128464]

>>17128174
Imagine carrying that second tome around.

[Anonymous No.17128471]

>>17127375
Why would you want that

[Anonymous No.17128953]

those 5

[Anonymous No.17128983]

The golden bough
The bible
The origins of totalitarianism
Gardners art through the ages
>Optional
My diary desu

[Anonymous No.17128988]

>>17127711
>The Bible will give you all of the moral, social, spiritual and so forth knowledge you could possibly need.
>unironically praising a book that promotes slavery as moral
More proof that Cucktianity is a mental disorder

[Anonymous No.17128993]

>>17128988
>slavery
>immoral

[Anonymous No.17128994]

Anyway, you just need one, the Epic of Gilgamesh. The rest of literature is pure trash compared to it

[Anonymous No.17128999]

>>17128993
If you don’t think it is, you should give yourself up for slavery. But you won’t, because you’re an inauthentic faggot who doesn‘t believe in anything you claim to believe in

[Anonymous No.17129007]

>>17128999
you sound angry

[Anonymous No.17129014]

>>17129007
I am, inauthenticity always has that effect on me. I find it physically repulsive

[Anonymous No.17129016]

>>17128999
What's so bad about slavery? You get food for performing tasks and that's that.

[Anonymous No.17129026]

>>17129016
The Haitians based their zombie stories on slaves. If you’re a slave, you were considered as a walking dead man. You have no more will of your own, and everything you do is decided by someone else for you. If you’re a slave, you might as well not exist at all

[Anonymous No.17129033]

>>17129026
The slave owner is the real victim here because he's the one who has to feed you. He covers your expenses.

[Anonymous No.17129045]

>>17129033
>The slave owner is the real victim here
That has got to be the most cucked sentence in the English language, good job

[Anonymous No.17129048]

>>17127911
fucking muricans man

[Anonymous No.17129148]

>>17127711
>Penrose is considered one of our greatest living scientists and his book is an attempt at trying to bring people up to speed at where his view of reality is at.
Does he stick to physics and math or does he include his views on the consciousness as well?

[Anonymous No.17129169]

>>17127389
You wont understand yourself with those books

[Anonymous No.17129177]

Hermann Hitler - Moby Kampf
Adolf Melville - Mein Dick

[Anonymous No.17129185]

>>17127911
if this can get published then so can you anon

[Anonymous No.17129190]

>>17129185
I have too much honor to write in favor of stuff I don’t believe in, sorry

[Anonymous No.17129191]

>>17129177
keke

[Anonymous No.17129194]

>>17128030
Based and womanpilled

[Anonymous No.17129229]

>>17127375
Moral Letters to Lucilius
Introduction to Algorithms
Burning Chrome + Neuromancer
Any schoolbook on calc 1-2 and probability/statistics
The Old Man and the Sea

[Anonymous No.17129266]

>>17129045
>calling others cucks while being a gigantic cuck yourself
nice

[Anonymous No.17129278]

The bible
The elements
Art as experience
A new kind of science
Archetypes of the collective unconscious

Beat that bitches!

[Anonymous No.17129315]

>>17127389
>>17127431
Imagine putting Moby Dick unironically

[Anonymous No.17129410]

>>17127375
Oxford Dictionary
encyclopedia britannica
The Complete Works of Shakespeare
——————
A personal diary

[Anonymous No.17129425]

>>17128953
>phub
The misspelling makes this so much better.

[Anonymous No.17129427]

>>17127375
MAPPA PUNCH

[Anonymous No.17129428]

>>17127375
The Bible
The Mahabharata
The Republic
The Summa Theologica
Meister Eckhart's Sermons

[Anonymous No.17129475]

The Communist Manifesto - Marx & Engels
Wage Labour and Capital - Marx
Socialism Utopian and Scientific - Engels
State and Revolution - Lenin
Imperialism as the highest stage of Capitalism - Lenin

[Anonymous No.17129489]

>>17127911
this reads like a twitter profile lmao, did she actually write a book in this manner?
I knew the standards where low but this is beyond anything I expected

[Anonymous No.17129521]

>>17127910
NOOOOOO WHERE'S MY BASED JESUS NOOOOO THAT'S NOT BASED RICHARD DAWKINS IS ONIONS I HEARD SO ON 4CHAN SLASH POL WHERE ALL THE BASED ALPHA MALES POST

[Mr. Bucks No.17129554]

I can do it in three
The Silmarillion
The Epic of Gilgamesh
&
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

[Anonymous No.17129576]

>>17127375
What They Teach You At Harvard Business School
What They Don't Teach You At Harvard Business School

[Anonymous No.17129577]

>>17128983
>optional

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129766]

>>17128988

I do not value freedom in my ethics and if you really want to argue it I will post an essay explaining in detail my ethics and ontology and their root in phenomenological analysis which you are free to try to dismantle.

I do not believe slavery is bad, because as a Christian I fully believe I am God’s slave. You cannot argue “muh slave morality” with me because I do not have any cares for any pathos, any emotional appeals you can possibly throw or appeals to how it looks or sounds. I do not view proper slavery as bad nor do I view what people normally call freedom, which is just a freedom to have arbitrary desires rule you, I do not consider such arbitrary to be a value.

Your choice, if you actually want to argue it, I Will post an entire phenomenological analysis and how my ethics roots out of it.

[Anonymous No.17129776]

>>17129766
Based

[Anonymous No.17129786]

>>17129766
>I fully believe I am God’s slave
Kinky

[Anonymous No.17129788]

>>17129766
>I do not believe slavery is bad, because as a Christian I fully believe I am God’s slave.
And yet you don’t do anything to have all the bans on this natural institution reversed. Almost like you accept the modernistic impulse to ban it or something

[Anonymous No.17129806]

>>17129766
BASED

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129829]

>>17129788

Not at all, I am a Gypsy. In my culture women are still treated as property rights in marriage and to their parents and boys are considered the property of their fathers until death. The language and rights in our court systems is that of property and masters and this ends only when you are the oldest patriarch of your family.

[Anonymous No.17129851]

>>17129788
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

[Anonymous No.17129859]

Organon
Bible
Augustine's Confessions
you can pick the other two i guess

[Anonymous No.17129874]

>>17129829
>In my culture
Which isn’t the Bible. The Bible is the word of God, and if you believed it to be true, you would do everything you could to reinstate the institution of slavery, which God specifically approves of. The fact that you refuse to do so tells me you’re a TINO, a traditionalist in name only. Your aesthetics try to cover up something your deeds betray

[Anonymous No.17129920]

>>17129874
>Which isn’t the Bible. The Bible is the word of God, and if you believed it to be true, you would do everything you could to reinstate the institution of slavery,

Not at all, the Bible isn’t about politics, God did not come for a political revolution, rather he says plainly that the end result is Babylon’s dominance and my political orientation would reflect this.

>which God specifically approves of. The fact that you refuse to do so tells me you’re a TINO, a traditionalist in name only. Your aesthetics try to cover up something your deeds betray

Not at all, we are told this cultural world (Babylon, this Aeon) is the domain of the devil, its God and that all government should be given our approval as they will all ultimately lead to the end of the will of god in creation, the eschaton. I will now explain my view of what this eschaton looks like, I will explain my Christian views of politics, which requires an explanation of my ethics which requires an explanation of my ontology. So I will begin first with my ontology.


THE THREE FOLD Phenomenological reduction of the states of the ego and its corollary to the heart of differentiation found in the experience of all things:

Phenomenological reduction inducing discovery of a transcendental-immanent God by raw analysis.

Analyzing my own self and consciousness, I can say about consciousness that all consciousness is consciousness of something. Whenever I am conscious, I am aware of something, some object or some characteristics. I am always aware of some object.

Analyzing the contents of my awareness, I see objects, all objects seemingly share the following characteristics without exception. The characteristic of having a characteristic. (Encoding data, denoting something, the object makes me aware of certain qualities/data.) the Characteristic of sharing the same basic structure and the characteristic of difference (the objects seem different to each other and over time are changed due to the nature of time.)

The quality of Characteristic seems to be universal to all objects, everything has something which one can say of it, even if what one can say is precisely that they cannot accurately communicate it. As such things like lack and void appear to be characterized by the lack of other characteristics for example.

What then can I say about the characteristics of various objects in my perception? I can say they all seem to adhere to the same basic structure.

CONT

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129925]

>>17129920

By structure I mean, I can look at an object and say it has position, shape, length, fundamentally this means we can measure mathematical data of any object before my eyes, as such we can say that all things give us data as to its basic structure (which is chiefly mathematical/extension based) analyzing data further however reveals there are structures which are not just existent to me as size, height, etc, but rather have a existence according to a mental structure. When I look at red I materially/physically see this color but mentally, my mind associates red with power, or love or color or honesty. As such we can now see that there are principally two structures by which we are aware of objects, the material exist as it appears before us according to mathematical data, and the mental existence as it appears before us which has qualities which do not necessarily equate to the possible mathematical structures whatsoever but seem to have their own divisions, counting methods dividing methods and so forth.


This seems to reveal that all that is actual/real within the material/mathematic seems to be necessarily existent within the Mental world, whereas my mental structures have a much greater range and size(I can imagine people and things which do not exist materially , objects and ideas which have no material being+all material being)

The mental structure being able to contain the mathematical data/materially/empirically experienceable tells us that there appears to be multiple structuring methods of perceiving and interacting with objects. In my experience neither the mental world nor material perception have precedence to each other, they seem to occur at once and aren’t really separate in my awareness of any particular material object.

Since we can perceive of structures which are non-existent within the material experience, which are real structures, and we can contemplate other forms of material which are not coherent with the material structure, we seem to find that there are seemingly nigh-endless and inexhaustible combinations of material into uniquely existing mental structures.

If I were to learn some mental discipline, such as math and physics, or philosophy or the arts, I would find my mental world changed and its capacity and even structure as now seemingly different and its range of contents and principles also seem changed.

CONT

[Anonymous No.17129928]

>>17129920
>wall of text
I literally don’t care. What you do is what you believe in, not what you proclaim. Come back when you’ve started a pro-slavery advocacy group

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129930]

>>17129925

As there are seemingly inexhaustible material data recombinations which can exist within the mental world, and the mental world can seemingly be changed in its basic principles, we must logically conclude there are inexhaustible potential mental structures which would mean there are potentially endless ways of mentally structuring the connotations and characteristics of material objects and endless ways of arranging mental constructs, this my own contemplation demonstrates the mental capacity for the mental world to contain boundless mental-structures. As such the characteristics and specific data any object gives can be conceived of and interacted with in potentially endless mental ways, as the mental world and material sense are one thing in any experience I hold, it is necessarily true that this structure, this logical-structure must be endless. The structure itself being one unfolding of self-similar patterns unveiling in a process by this I mean, the structure as a whole never divides from itself but rather shows its same principles and qualities over and over, for it is one thing always.

Now, what can I say about difference? Though the structure always reveals the same qualities it always reveals it by showing its diversity, the multiplicity of material objects all reveal the uniformity of mathematical coordinates via their differences in expression, in relation to each other.

Going further, any object I perceive of is inherently different in data/qualities which it encodes from one moment to the next, as time itself is a variable, so the very existence in time means that from on moment to the next, every single object becomes different in some characteristic or another. Analyzing time, I can only perceive of a future which is oncoming, and a past which has occurred. I cannot find any stability in the present because it is constantly passing into past-future. Therefore present itself is the difference/change of characteristic between past-future.

As all characteristics demonstrate themselves via their difference from each other, and each thing’s characteristic is changed instantly, where then can we locate the location of difference itself, difference as it exists purely in both material and mental experience?

If I look at all objects and characteristics the thing within my consciousness which naturally gives the data/encodes that it is different, is me, myself. Specifically my conception of self(my empirical ego, my identity) its very nature seems to be in experience the quality of being different from all other objects. It says “ this is not I, that is not I, I am I and nothing else is I” therefore the Ego itself appears to be difference as it exists purely within my experience, it is Uniqueness itself.

CONT

[Anonymous No.17129931]

>>17127375
Just read Ecclesiastes.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129936]

>>17129930

Analyzing further, this seems to reveal that all objects within my consciousness are a dynamic moving difference, dynamic because my mental structures and mental perception can change towards them, and their material conditions are constantly always changing via the nature of the present.

Meanwhile the Core characteristic of my identity/ego remains perpetually within Stasis, its sole quality being that it is unique and different from all objects.

As such analyzing the ego further, we find that the object of difference-in-itself is the Ego, since we have located difference and ego we can now clearly say that all objects within perception and the subject/ego in perception are both just aspects of perception/consciousness, neither being prior or after the other, they are both necessary characteristics of consciousness which is Pure(neither subject nor any specific object but the totality of consciousness is married as such.)

Therefore we can say logically via analysis that phenomena itself depicts characteristic, structure and difference.

As previously stated we can clearly demonstrate a material structure, even if we were to not consider the consciousness and not consider the subject, If objects exist they necessarily must have a structure, that structure must logically unveil via a pattern-process, that pattern process necessitates the existence of difference, difference necessitates the existence of that which is uniquely different to all else, that uniquely existent object which is non-separate to the material-structuring force is agreed upon by all religions to be God, which has, necessarily via the existence of difference, been proven to logically occur as the difference as it exists within itself.

This existence, which we call The unique difference, is inherently non-separate to the entirety of the structuring principles, for examining my own unique difference, I notice my own qualities as existent as separate yet as my own and of me and my own nature. Therefore the material/mental structure as it exists outside of me, must also logically contain an “I” who refers to the entirety of the structuring principles as theirs, and of themselves and of their power, all objects being objects of their perception.


CONT
>>17129928

Don’t back out now that there’s actual meat of ontology and ethics in the debate and not emotional appeals.

[Anonymous No.17129948]

sickness unto death
hamlet
the bible
yeats complete poems
critique of pure reason

[Anonymous No.17129954]

>>17129936
>Don’t back out now that there’s actual meat of ontology and ethics in the debate and not emotional appeals.
Dude, these posts are honestly Jordan Peterson tier of meaningless fluff. This is the shit you’d expect from a philosophy 101 student who just read Hegel or Heidegger for the first time. Absolutely pathetic

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129961]

>>17129936

However just as I determined that my own Ego/identity is necessarily a reflection of the consciousness, so must it also be with the ego of the structures. The Identity of the structure must have a non-conceptual existence which it itself reflects, these two, the fully transcendent (above identity, above difference, containing all difference) must logically co-contemplate/dwell with each other, the normative Ego of the structure being the sentience of difference itself, whereas the transcendental Ego is the sentience of characteristic as a whole, for all differences are simply aspects of characteristic itself.

Contemplating my own self once more, my own physical body, my bodily-self, my sense of self, I seem to also have within my consciousness a ego which has no identity, my physical body reacting to object stimuli as if it was itself a non-subject aspect, acting automatically and without reference to the identity. And as previously established there is logically no separation between my perception of objects and my consciousness, as consciousness is awareness and awareness is awareness of objects, rather, awareness of the dynamic process of the unfolding characteristics of Not-I, of objects. My identity and my actual consciousness reflect each other solely by the relationship they have via their shared static nature in contrast to the dynamism of object/not-I.

As demonstrated before, the Ego of the difference and transcendental person of the characteristic itself share this same arrangement, which necessitates the existence of one such not-I of transcendental characteristic, this must logically fill the entirety of material/mental structure world, as it is truly non-separate from the transcendental Person, it necessarily must have sentience and consciousness of equal level also.

As such, we can demonstrate the perpetual co-existence and co-dependence of a Triune-Being who is identical to the structuring principle controlling force of all which exists, who contains all possible characteristics therefore all attributes, is necessarily boundless for he is all structure, is necessarily in all points of time via the identification of time with difference, and is necessarily having three persons which are of one divine essence yet three distinct persons who, mutually reflecting each other are never mingled into a fourth person or essence.

Thus, a fully Transcendental immanent Trinitarian Godhead is Necessary.


With this ontological groundwork established we can divide phenomena top down way, which I can also explain in detail but to save some time I won’t unless asked to, but it would result in the following ethics becoming the most logical.

The Task of uncovering a systematic ethics which both accounts for the widest scale and smallest and also Good in itself has been a concern of mine for a while,

CONT

[Anonymous No.17129974]

>>17129961
Buddy, you can stop posting this, because this is meaningless garbage that I’m not even going to read. It suffers from all the classical flaws of pseudo intellectualism. You don’t define anything and you refuse to say when what you claim to be true certainly isn’t true.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129975]

>>17129954

Then it should be incredibly easy to break apart.

>>17129961

the following is a logic structure which would according to my own phenomenological and specifically object and characteristic analysis allow for a form of ethics which is the most rooted in the inherent nature of being and reality possible. Primarily it shall be rooted in my own divine conception however a secularized form is possible if one were to simply ignore the three deepest layers of the structure.

The lowest strata are the foundations off the highest, the lower the structure is, the more universal it is. Thus the higher structures are filled with the universal qualities of the lower structures but add their own particular qualities which the lower Strata do not partake of.

Thus the Lower strata are more essential and permanent, whereas the higher strata are more fragile and accidental to the lowest levels. Ultimately however the highest strata when expressed properly must also express the virtues inherent to the lowest strata fully, being an enrichment of the more essential properties.

That which is inherent to the structure of reality is Good, for It, God, Logic, Nature, Is Good, the natural teleological and consequential ramifications of each state must be the most Good, for the meaning and the goodness of a thing are one, its cause and completion and goodness are to it one.

Note, the higher strata are defined as particularizations of the lower strata, thus the lower have absolute influence over the higher, but just as a drop of poison can change the overall composition of the entire ocean if added to it, so also can the fragile higher strata have a limited influence on the lower levels.

Sosein 1:sosein in itself.

The beginning of our ethics must be Good-in-itself, the identity of this is clearly God to any man of the spiritual, for God is the most simplistic and his divine essence is his identity and his identity is his simplistic divine nature. As the determination in question is Goodness its root must lay in that which determines all determinations, that which characterizes all characteristics. As it is completely good it has no moral or ethical obligations other than to be its own determination. No evil capacity (disobedience of self consistent logic) can occur here.

Sosein 2:Sosein as the mirror Haecceities

Due to the determination of all determination filling itself and being completed in itself, it as the most universal determination must also contain all particular determinations, qualities, characteristics, unique aspects etc. the

CONT

[Anonymous No.17129982]

>>17129975
Here you go >>17129974

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129988]

>>17129974

The first portion has no technical language and is in completely normative English. This second portion uses nothing but common terms, such as dasein, sosein, and so forth which as been said, should be easy enough to overwhelm. So go ahead.

>>17129975

state of these only have particular determination relationship due to their relational nature towards each other, their mutual co-dependence. (The Fire is determined to be hot in contrast to other heats and other coldness and defined to be such a sensation and not jellylike due to its specific qualities ) this co-dependent relation can be termed “Love” in the sense of agape, which is a Nondual yet relational state in which information is passed and reflected perfectly between all parties in question. Thus the ethics of this state contains the previous nature of being itself, but also now blossoms to requiring Nondual Love. Thus the ethics of this level is pure Love. Evil cannot truly exist here because to be in relation to anything in this zone is to be in Love.

Pure Sein: Being Qua Being with no differentiation whatsoever.

The interpenetrative relational “love” of the previous ethical structure necessarily must produce active and passive relationships, affects, positive and negatives, etc, all of these connections and relations produce and truly are a coherent form of Logic. ( as the laws of physics are coherent, whether in their primitive states in the early universe or now, they always had self consistency even if changed through time ) as such we now can deduce that to obey the inherent logic structure, the Law of Pure Being is itself the meaning of this level. Just as Being obeys this logic so is it Logical that the inherent ethical nature obeys this divine law as implication of Divine Love. To disobey this level is to disobey the fundamental laws perquisite to having existence, thus there is no evil capacity at this stage.

Thus we have confirmed that the nature of god itself is the Good, the particular Nature of the Good is Love, and to obey the Law and Logic is the particular nature of Love.

The following four strata then will analyze the nature of the logic and order of being, these can be taken in a purely secular belief for they are rooted purely in object Analysis and obedience to the self-consistency of nature.

The Four Strata of being: the Ethics of Dasein

Cont

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17129998]

>>17129982

Not an argument

>>17129988

Stratum 1: Matter/material and its mechanical nature

Analyzing basic reality from its objects, it becomes clear that the most basic of all manners of being is being-matter, all that materially exists and has being, has matter in some form or another, this naturally follows the inherent logic and consistency of nature and interacts with itself. What is the being of matter? It is to exist, the being of the most basic universal Being is simply to be, the material has no further purpose or being or richness than to be and to interact with itself. As such due to this simplicity the nature of basic objects always completes the quality of goodness, for logic and causality dictates it ought to be (logic of the Big Bang, God, whatever it is your preference, there is an experience of objects.)

This structure then has no meaning other than to mechanically exist and interrelate with itself like moving pieces, interactions. Etc. disobedience of this structure results in lack of material existence of the object in question. Thus there is no evil capacity at this stage.

Good In this stage is defined simply as “Being there”

Stratum 2: The Organic/biological/living and its inherent Vitalist nature.

Whether we believe in evolution or religion, man is formulated from the raw matter, whether through a series of logical randomness obeying a deterministic/pseudo-deterministic causal stream, or if created by God out of dust/clay, the Organic life begins and arises out of the inorganic matter, formulating into such categories as species.

The Organic manner contains the self existence-affirming position of lifeless matter, but just as the organic defines and gives itself distinction by the quality of being alive/organic, so also is modified the logical drive behind the material. Now the matter itself seeks to be alive, all things in the organic structure seek to be alive, those which disobey this inherent biological imperative are removed from the biological category by biological death and return to lifeless matter. Thus there is no capacity for evil in this stage, only the loss of particularization.

Goodness defined in this stage is simply “Being-Biological”

Stratum 3: The Individual and his ethical foundation in psychologicism


CONT

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17130006]

>>17129998

As species and life in general arose in the previous stratum, with it at once arose the substratum of the particular individual and particular life. The particular life in the healthy normative individual contains fully the “Being-biological” drive but further due ones own personal qualities gains a diversity of nuance, characteristics, unique genetic code, memories, etc. thus being ones self as an individual in accordance to ones own nature and in accordance with the specifics of his own mind is the key to maintaining this individuality. (For the denial of ones owns individuality results potentially/eventually into the denial of the self which is the denial of the life-drive, thus embrace of Death)

Thus whether a person is energetic or sleepy, pro authority or against it, collectivist or individualist, the ultimate truth of his being-Individual is that his ethics must adhere to his structure as a unique-individual. Thus there is an incredibly rich range of Goodness, a great diversity of goodness at this stage, but as a trade off (since everyone has their own unique goodness) actual Evil arises.

Goodness as defined as being authentic to what ones own unique-individual perspective defines as good inherently implies there is a capacity for inauthenticity, for many people lack self comprehension, many lack self knowledge, many simply cannot muster the will or the power to live up to their authentic nature. Thus the individuality of man, of Being-individual gives a richness of goodness, but also Degeneracy, entropy, Inauthenticity.

Thus we can define Goodness at this stage as personal Acquiescentia, resting/dwelling in ones own individual qualities and living in accordance with them, thus acquiescentia and actualization of the individual are one thing. Whether you decide some kind of virtue ethics, Will based Nietzschean ethics, passion, utilitarianism, it doesn’t matter, one if authentic will choose a definition of goodness in accordance with his own mental character.

Thus we can define good here as “Being Ones self “ or “being Authentic”

Stratum 4: the Cultural Spirit and its advancement through history.


CONT

[Anonymous No.17130011]

>>17129988
No, sorry, it isn’t. Many of these terms are completely meaningless, you don’t make explicit when you’re certainly wrong, and its massive volume points towards a classical case of gish-galloping, a known technique used by charlatans like yourself. I’m not even going to read any of this

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17130039]

>>17130006

Individuals interact and share a common space, they influence each other, the space of these interactions creates a culture which contains groups of individuals and alchemically unifies their interior, their ideas, extracting their essences and nature’s and unifying them into its own unique aesthetics, culture, conception and goodness.

The primary key to culture is Knowledge and the means of exchange of knowledge, all culture can be reduced to individual communications and specifically knowledge exchange, the entire process of culture is one in which is absorbed the ideas, tastes and qualities of more and more individuals, thus the form of goodness in this structure is based on the accumulation of information, data from the most individuals possible, the effective creation of a abstract database of ideas which interact and rebirth the database constantly through the interactions of all points within Said culture. Thus the Key to the cultural spirit is the Knowledge-and-communication nature. Thus all things which maximize data points of information-knowledge expand the culture (oh these people have no customs theyre uncultured, but these people have very much social customs and traditions therefore many ideas.) thus the heart of this structure is culture-integration of knowledge and maximization of communications.

Evil then is on this level ignorance and also isolation. We can then thus define the entirety of the Good in this structure as “Becoming-knowledgeable”

All of the Strata are unified and truly immanent, the line of being exists from the lowest to the highest, the entirety of the manner of being and goodness from the lowest exists but expanded in the highest most refined strata.

This being considered the most grounded and essential Good is goodness in itself, the most refined and essential on a group level is itself knowledge/reason.

This ethical structure fully integrates the manner of sosein and dasein in man, but has revealed the primacy of self consistent order and knowledge, these definitions are based on the natural movements and unfolding of being and characteristic as it is, thus the categories define the meanings of the particulars.

With this Model we have a systematic structure for dealing with Good in itself, all forms of ethics and what is most ethical on the grand scale in terms of pure Ontology.

There you go anon, just as the animal life is subjugated into the particularity of the individual, within the movement of culture so must also the individual; his authenticity and his will/freedom be drained of its arbitrary desire (called will) for the Will of the totality, thus it is inherently more Good for obedience to the cultural unfoldment than the advancing of individual freedom or Will.

I can stop right now or I can continue even further with a phenomenological analysis of emptiness, how this culture is built off of baudrillardian simulacra and how it ends in apocalypse.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17130046]

>>17130011

You’re free to run with your tail between your legs. Goodbye anon.

[Anonymous No.17130061]

>>17130039
Listen, I’ve told you three times by now that I’m not going to read any of this. These posts are just pure verbal diarrhea. They use no terms that are clearly defined, or even defined at all, I’ve stated three tomes by now that you don’t mention a single case in which this is certainly wrong, and the whole aim of all of these posts is not to come up with an accurate description of anything, but to overwhelm, and the fact that you consider gish-galloping legit points towards you being a bad faith actor. Go fuck yourself

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17130069]

>>17130061

See

>>17130046

[Anonymous No.17130072]

>>17130069
That would imply that you’re the honorable one here, despite that you’ve exposed yourself as a bad faith actor

[Anonymous No.17130080]

>>17127375
>70% of replies include the bible or some other religious manifesto
You can understand any point made by OP without wasting 50+ hours reading a bloated concotion of fairy tales and false historic events. Surely there is a redacted version that ommits fillers. I understand the value of some stories in these books but you can distill the essence in less than 100 pages and I'm sure someone has done this before.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17130087]

>>17130072

Nah, it’s just a systematic argument showing a break down of phenomena down to its roots using the Husserlian method of reduction. The reduction demonstrating my ontology uses no special terms or considerations or special language as it was written specifically not to.

Again if you don’t want to argue with anything of actual substance, it’s fine. You can run away from the argument. Once again, goodbye anon.

[Anonymous No.17130107]

>>17130087
>You can run away from the argument.
Once again, you keep insisting that you’re the moral one here, despite that what you just did is almost prototypical gish-galloping, as I’ve explained to you about three times by now.

And like a typical fraud, you try to gaslight all the way to end, even after you exposed yourself

[Anonymous No.17130112]

>>17127389
>The Bible
>On The Origin of Species
kek

[ecofag !!IkEVI318jJJ No.17130118]

Zhuangzhi's inner chapters
Ego and its Own
Thus Spake Zarathustra
Industrial Society and its Future
Simulcra and Simulation

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.17130119]

>>17129315
What? You don’t know?
It’s like a prophecy of our times

[Anonymous No.17130123]

>>17127375
Collected works of Plato
Collected works of Shakespeare
Collected works of Jung
Harry Potter
Fifty Shades of Gray

[Anonymous No.17130139]

>>17130123
might as well say the collected works of aristotle too then

[Anonymous No.17130149]

>>17127431
seethe tranny

[Anonymous No.17130158]

>>17130139
Yes if OP had asked for 6, Aristotle would definitely be there.

[Anonymous No.17130175]

>>17130158
I mean I guess if you think Harry Potter and Fifty Shades of Grey are better choices

[Anonymous No.17130189]

>>17127911
this is unironically not as bad as I was expecting. Still not great though I'd say

[Anonymous No.17130199]

>>17127960
>Walden
not that guy, I haven't read it yet but comfy sounds up my alley. Is it actually comfy? Can you tell me a bit more?

[Anonymous No.17130205]

>>17130175
He asked for everything. So the good should be there as well as the bad. To understand everything you need to walk through the gardens and the slums equally. Btw reading trash once in a while is a fruitful exercise that will give you different perspectives and help your writing.

[Anonymous No.17130230]

>>17130205
fair enough

[Anonymous No.17130424]

>>17130061
filtered fedora pseud lmao seethe harder

[Anonymous No.17130455]

>>17127375
>The Hutchinson history of the world
>confederacy of dunces
>Heretics and Orthodoxy: Two Volumes in One
>the bible
>Crow Killer

[Anonymous No.17130475]

>>17127389
I see now...

[Anonymous No.17130484]

>>17130046
>Schizoposter is waiting for a chance to read his diary to someone
>anon took the bait
>Schizoposter writes his meaningless ramblings
>anon doesn't give a fuck
>"Y-y-you’re free to run with your tail between your legs. G-g-goodbye anon."
Kek

[Anonymous No.17130491]

go and read the complete works of Homer, Pindar, Plato, Aristotle, Sophocles, Euripides, Hesiod, Aristophanes, Herodotus, Arrian, Thucydides, Sappho, Plutarch, Ovid, Virgil, Lucretius, Arisoto, Horace, St. Augustine, Marcus Aurelius, Rabelais, Dante, Petrarch, Tasso, Bruno, Boccaccio, Leopardi, Machiavelli, Luther, Cervantes, Chaucer, the Beowulf poet, Chretien de Troyes, Marie de France, Sterne, Burton, Browne, Spenser, Wyatt, Sidney, Herbert, Percy Shelley, Tennyson, Donne, Pope, Dryden, Bacon, Novalis, Schelling, Schlegels, Hegel, Schopenhauer, Pascal, Lichtenberg, Dickinson, Shakespeare, Ibsen, Strindberg, Austen, Dickens, Marlowe, Diderot, Jonson, Potocki, Goethe, Bunyan, Gibbon, Addison, Smollett, Milton, Johnson, Boswell, Emerson, Quincey, Burke, Spinoza, Leibniz, Hume, Kant, Mary Shelley, Wollstonecraft, Racine, Baudelaire, Valery, Rimbaud, Verlaine, Moliere, Montaigne, Browning, Gray, Holderlin, Schiller, Shaw, Voltaire, Hugo, Balzac, Zola, Colette, Duras, Dumas, Stendhal, Nerval, Flaubert, Mallarme, Malraux, Chateaubriand, Artaud, Poe, Wordsworth, Coleridge, Blake, Byron, Keats, Arnold, Pater, Walter Scott, Swinburne, Thackeray, Rossetti, Carroll, William James, Henry James, Hawthorne, Twain, Melville, Dewey, Bergson, Whitehead, George Eliot, Williams, Frost, Cummings, Crane, Stevens, Whitman, Hughes, Plath, Trakl, Rilke, Celan, Montale, Neruda, Lorca, Tagore, Manzoni, Peake, Murdoch, Wharton, Wilde, Faulkner, O'Connor, Passos, Nietzsche, Marx, Adorno, Bloch, Lukacs, Bakhtin, Hamsun, Pushkin, Gogol, Tolstoy, Turgenev, Chekhov, Andreyev, Bely, Bulgakov, Gonchorov, Camoes, Pessoa, Queiroz, Saramago, Paz, Borges, Bloy, Pirandello, Huysmans, Lautreamont, Schwob, Casares, Bolano, Cortazar, Lima, Donoso, de Assis, Carpentier, Celine, Marquez, Unamuno, Gracq, Gide, Jarry, Camus, Conrad, Wells, Hardy, Salinger, Anderson, Ford, Maugham, Lawrence, Forster, Hrabal, Swift, Bronte, Woolf, Bachelard, Roussel, Beckett, Proust, Nabokov, Joyce, O'Brien, Yeats, Waugh, Heaney, Pinter, Auden, Hofmannsthal, Mann, Musil, Broch, Zweig, Bachmann, Jelinek, Lessing, Laxness, Simenon,Svevo, Levi, Buzzati, Quasimodo, Moravia, Llosa, Walser, Kafka, Babel, Schulz, Transtromer, Kertesz, Pavic, Andric, Grossmann, Linna, Mahfouz, Boll, Grass, Canetti, Pavese, Robbe-Grillet, Blanchot, Perec, Queneau, Calvino, Bernhard, Gass, Barth, Gaddis, Vollmann, Vidal, Hawkes, DeLillo, Pynchon, McCarthy, McElroy, Soseki, Murasaki, Shonagon, Kawabata, Mishima, Akutagawa, Tanizaki, Dazai, Oe, Xingjian, Mo Yan, Kosztolanyi, Gombrowicz, Ishiguro, Eco, Coetzee, Auerbach, Benjamin, Barthes, Pasternak, Derrida, de Man, Kristeva, Deleuze, Bateson, Foucault, Lyotard, Mcluhan, Eichenbaum, Davenport, Steiner, Munro, Carson, Handke, Arno Schmidt, Therouxs, Patrick White, Alfau, Marias, Enard, Claude Simon, Robinson, Elizabeth Bishop, Markson, Lowry, Bellow, Dara

[Anonymous No.17130512]

>The selfish gene
>The Road to Serfdom
>The Origin Of Consciousness In The Breakdown Of The Bicameral Mind
>Antifragile
>The Idiot

Fuck if I know, these probably were the ones that changed my view of the world the most

[Anonymous No.17130622]

>the
>complete
>works
>of
>Plato

[Anonymous No.17130679]

>>17130622
>B
>a
>s
>e
>d

[Anonymous No.17130905]

>>17127711
>The Road to Reality
cringe

[Anonymous No.17131070]

>>17127375
תָּנָ״ךְ + Ἡ Καινὴ Διαθήκη
उपनिषद्
Symbols of Transformation
The Origins and History of Consciousness
Maps of Meaning

[doubtposting !!0CYbMy7gCdH No.17131110]

>>17131070
Now that's based

[Anonymous No.17131287]

>>17129829
Damn you know this is exactly what Marx said in the German ideology- that the first property was the mother and children owned by the father.

[Anonymous No.17131407]

>>17130080
Back to r3ddit

[Anonymous No.17131636]

>>17127389
>>17127404
>>17127711
>>17127885
>>17128459
>>17128983
>>17129278
>>17129428
>>17129859
>>17129948
>>17130455
Are you all religious or are you unironically putting the bible because its good

[Anonymous No.17131683]

>>17131636
I think it has some good morals. better then the Torah or the koran i think

[Saint Seiso !Mahdi26/jg No.17131718]

>>17129410
This anon has the right idea.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17131731]

>>17131636

Both.

>>17131287

Pretty much yeah.

[Anonymous No.17131856]

>>17128098
yeah idc when it was written but those are all specific modes of being for people. why are these specific modes of being necessary for understanding everything (or whatever this thread is about)? I think War and Peace covers the human side enough and anything other than that is just garnish

[Anonymous No.17131859]

>>17130491
>jellinek
you managed to ruin a perfectly fine list with this dried up cunt

[Anonymous No.17131970]

>>17129148
Road to reality is strictly math and physics

[Anonymous No.17131971]

>>17131636
I do not understand how you can be on a literature board and not recognise the importance of the bible to literature

[Anonymous No.17132083]

I'm giving the only answer to OPs question in this thread,as I don't expect anyone to do so after what I've seen
>Treatise on human nature by D.Hume
>Logical Investigations 1,2 by Husserl
>Any textbook on modal logic
>Conflict of Interpretations by P. Ricoeur
>Again any textbook on Hermeneutics
If you still have any questions to the Universe left, start with step 1

[Anonymous No.17132088]

>>17131636
it is the most important book to western civilization. it doesn't matter whether you like it, none of the past 2000 years makes sense without it.

[Anonymous No.17132370]

>>17127431
>Campbell’s Hero with a Thousand Faces
my sweet and wise Butterfly, have you read The Denial of Death yet? It references this book. Maybe we can read each other's books and discuss? DMs open

[Anonymous No.17132382]

>>17127431
based

[Anonymous No.17132500]

>>17131683
the torah is in the bible

[Anonymous No.17133563]

>>17132500
your in the bible

[Anonymous No.17133566]

>>17127375
The Hungry Caterpillar
Where Is My Hat
Maynard's Dreams
Go Dog Go
Cat in the Hat

[Anonymous No.17133773]

>>17133566
Thanks, after reading this I have gained full comprehension of the Sub-Saharans

[Anonymous No.17134444]

>The sovereign individual
>The power of now
>Maps of meaning
>Democracy - the god that failed
>Synchronicity (chopra)

[Anonymous No.17134454]

>>17127389
Very decent list.

[Anonymous No.17134581]

>>17127664
Terrible list

[Anonymous No.17134643]

>>17129928
He literally said if someone argued with him he'd post an entire essay about his beliefs, you did exactly that. You have no right to complain about this.

[Anonymous No.17135372]

>>17127431
Kill yourself tranny

[Anonymous No.17136428]

When people say Bible do they mean: old + new testament or just new testament?

[Anonymous No.17136668]

>>17127706
What we know about natural sciences currently, will be largely outdated in 100 years. The human condition will not.

[Anonymous No.17136675]

>>17136428
Both, most are crypto-philosemites

[Anonymous No.17137173]

>>17136428
I know it's a mistake, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and suppose you've never picked up a bible. It contains both.

[Anonymous No.17137189]

>>17127375
The complete bible including apocrypha
Wikipedia
Ullmann's Encyclopaedia of Industrial Chemistry
One of those Engineering manuals I can't remember the name of
Aesop's Fables

[Anonymous No.17137289]

>>17129954
I hope youve learned your lesson and will ignore tripfags in the future

[Anonymous No.17137326]

>>17127375
harry potter and the philosopher's stone
harry potter and the chamber of secrets
harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban
harry potter and the goblet of fire
harry potter and the order of the phoenix

done

[Anonymous No.17137363]

>>17127389
Every thing besides the culture of critique is decent.

[Anonymous No.17137985]

Anything by Marx.

[Anonymous No.17138021]

>>17127375
In search of lost time (they are seven but I count them as one because fuck you)
The Zen Teachings of Boddhidharma
War and Peace
Karamazhov Brothers
The Dharma Bums

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.17138321]

>>17136668
The human condition will just have to understand the nature of science and update their books. Some books are not timeless, the Bible for instance, and even outdated science books lead to the updates. It’s how things are in fact.
And this human condition? It too changes

[Anonymous No.17139372]

>>17138321
it's spelled ***Bilbo

[Anonymous No.17140655]

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Dianetics

[Anonymous No.17140723]

>>17138321
Yeah, no, the Bible is not even close to being outdated. Its ideals, sure, but its cycles? Genesis is still true.

[Anonymous No.17140773]

>>17127431
>bible
>over your quota
>posts portable Nietzsche which is also a collection of books
Hippo crit.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.17140787]

>>17140723
>Genesis is still true.

[Anonymous No.17141334]

I read the Bible and it's really not that good, not sure why everyone on this board's got a hard on for that book.

[Anonymous No.17142069]

>>17128174
KEK beat me to it

[Anonymous No.17143577]

Critique of Pure Sneed
Schopenhauer’s Essays and Aphorisms
Moby-Dick
Common Sense
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man

[Anonymous No.17143611]

>>17127911
Really good

[Anonymous No.17143620]

The bible
Don quixote
Brothers karamazov
Denial of death
Beyond good and evil

[Anonymous No.17144639]

Letters on Ethics (complete collection of Seneca's letters)
The Passionate State of Mind
The Book of Disquiet
The Education of the Stoic
Essays/Moralia

[Anonymous No.17144723]

>>17128953
lmao

[Anonymous No.17145329]

I've been on the same path, I've read the Talmud, Bible, Quran, and anything by neitzsche