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Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:20:16 2020 No.17125594 [Reply] [Original]

What is poststructuralism?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:21:48 2020 No.17125606 your mom, and you can't object because your mom is always-already present in the trace as post-structural

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:23:43 2020 No.17125617 it's when you're critical of metanarratives and the more critical you are the more poststructural it is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:24:17 2020 No.17125621 >>17125594 Another term for the return of sophistry, casuistry under the guise of linguistic investigation without scientific or logical rigour

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:24:40 2020 No.17125624 >>17125594 you smell like bum-bum shit, OP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:26:30 2020 No.17125637 >>17125594 Introduction of cybernetics metaphores in the idea of dissolution of self. Displacement of truth as sign. Big attention on "marginalized". CIA philosophy

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:27:27 2020 No.17125646 >>17125637 >CIA philosophy redpill me

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:28:13 2020 No.17125653 >>17125646 You smell like bum-bum shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:30:29 2020 No.17125664 >>17125637 Exactly

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:31:24 2020 No.17125672

>>17125646
Not him, but look up "SigInt Socrates". The CIA basically got a blogger to write some half-assed sophistry to morally justify spying on people. tl;dr trust the corporation, the corporation loves you, the corporation needs to know everything to defend Israel, you must know nothing about the corporation to stop you from hurting Israel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:38:41 2020 No.17125719 >>17125672 wtf I thought stormfaggots were just memeing

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:39:01 2020 No.17125722

>>17125646
CIA liked derrida, foucault, deleuze and others because they renounced intelectual leftism, for a style.
All these guys philosophies are about the structures that allow the illusion of self. These are considered social and unconscious as the same time. At the same time all their philosophies are veiled precursors to technological manipulation by a hybrid state capitalist system that leaves no nook and cranny for a soul or self.
They believed they were rejecting the cogito and cartesianism the intelectual as unhappy conscious like sartre posited, and even destroying the notion of emancipation. They also completely subverted heidegger. Metaphysics is considered to achieving itslef in the holocaust, so they mangle heidegger's philosophy so that the history of being is to be arqueologically dissected, deconstructed.
You can even go into the territorializing and the becoming-gay and becoming-woman of deleuze as the state of total inner manipulation

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:40:39 2020 No.17125736

>>17125722
>Metaphysics is considered to achieving itslef in the holocaust
What?
>You can even go into the territorializing and the becoming-gay and becoming-woman of deleuze as the state of total inner manipulation
??
genuinely curious how you justify these inferences

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:41:04 2020 No.17125737 File: 564 KB, 1600x1384, Claude-Levi-Strauss-2001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >makes poststructuralists seethe

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:41:46 2020 No.17125743 >>17125722 Nobody ever wondered why chelsea manning only got her/his pardon after becoming a woman. When the guy was jailed he was called bradlet. Obama only pardoned him after becoming trans. Really fucking creepy

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:43:17 2020 No.17125757 >>17125736 Levinas, derrida The plane of immanence of the schizo is his own self that as "machinic" appendages that flow desires, how the fuck can one not see the state of universal.manipulation that both heidegger and lukacs warned about?

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:46:04 2020 No.17125781

>>17125737
The dicotomy of culture and nature that levi defended allows that nonsense of social-constructionism of foucault and the wokes of today. Only one that mildly challenged was sartre.
Culture is not opposite of nature, culture conserves nature and reveals it at another level...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:48:35 2020 No.17125801 >>17125781 >>17125757 >>17125743 >>17125737 >>17125736 >>17125722 >>17125719 You smell like bum-bum shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:49:32 2020 No.17125807 >>17125743 If she came out as trans in 2013, why did he wait until 2017 to pardon her? Are you an actual idiot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:51:00 2020 No.17125818 >>17125807 No, he's right, don't gaslight

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:52:03 2020 No.17125825 >>17125807 >>17125807 I'm assuming that that choice doesn't make sense for anybody. Also presidents pardon usually on their way out. Where's assange's pardon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:53:52 2020 No.17125833 >>17125818 Are you fucking stupid too?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:54:47 2020 No.17125840 >>17125833 What's your argument?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:55:55 2020 No.17125847 >>17125840 You smell like bum-bum shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:58:20 2020 No.17125871 >>17125840 What am I supposed to argue? Conspiracy theories don't act in good faith.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:03:41 2020 No.17125905

>>17125871
I argued about deleuze.
Calling it a conspiracy theory doesn't make it false.
The problem with gaslighting yourself is that your gaslighting others.
If one takes seriously marxist critique, then deleuze's worldview is of total manipulation, capitalism is seen as embedding everything, as colonizing desire, imperialism would mesh the state with capital, in the plane of immanence there is no outside of one's self, you're not even responsible and free, you're completelt colonized amd made to assume it and be happy about it. I just ajust to the present.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:05:13 2020 No.17125914 >>17125905 The idea of dialectic and contradiction that spills social tension doesn't happen, there is no limit to the system, it swirls on itself through its subjects

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:05:17 2020 No.17125915

>>17125594
Are structures something material, ideal, ideological, symbolic, what are they? I once read a book by Levi-Strauss and they seemed to be a materialization of something symbolic. Another time, reading Baudrillard, they seemed to be completely symbolic. I'd like someone could explain this to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:06:06 2020 No.17125922 >>17125905 And I responded to post about Chelsea Manning's pardon, so maybe you should learn how to read

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:07:16 2020 No.17125933 >>17125914 Contradiction and the idea of limit is the enemy, the schizo has no structure as plant lime descartes metaphysics, meaning is eternally displaced for the rizome. The schizo inscribes his becoming

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:08:17 2020 No.17125940 >>17125922 You're missing pol threads shill

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:14:59 2020 No.17125987

>>17125915
Mainly linguistic. Saussurian. But linguistic analysis can somewhat acount for cultures through its languages and myths. That's levi-strauss.
The post-guys just play with it, with the idea of creating something new. They start as heideggerians that transpose the history of being as heidegger to subvert materialist interpretation, somehow they create pseudo-methods that pose as genealogy or deconstruction, nothing is ever caused, structures create discontinuities that must be accounted as similarities with its meaning depending on the position of signs relating with each other. Baudrillard thinks this is a dead-end. But he doesn't return to philosophy. He just takes it further

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:17:55 2020 No.17126013 >>17125987 thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:19:11 2020 No.17126029 >>17125722 People only think this because American academics took derrida, foucault, deleuze, and their ilk as prescriptive when they shouldn't have.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:24:09 2020 No.17126071

>>17126029
No.i get their "style" is questioning. But you can see while reading that a guy might think of applying it. It excludes revolution. I don't believe in communism,but revolution is not exclusive to communists.
Ideologically it will work if the theory is the continuation of the system by other means

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:25:49 2020 No.17126082 >>17126071 So, the theory induces its practice. It becomes a system in recurrence. That's how these guys think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:31:16 2020 No.17126115 >>17126071 How does it exclude revolution? Why do you have to believe in revolution as narrative before you can exercise the ability?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:35:23 2020 No.17126137 >>17126115 The problem is that i'm dealing with concepts. Not narratives. If you make certain concepts unthinkable, they can't be acted upon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:36:36 2020 No.17126147 People who aren’t so sure

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:43:24 2020 No.17126192 >>17126137 They're only unthinkable through their essential boundaries though, you're still free to have any conceptions you choose, unless you need to feel you're following some actual path.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:48:02 2020 No.17126214 It's when you take your political preconceptions and biases, project it on to academics you've never read, then argue with other people who do the same thing but starting with their own preconceptions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:49:57 2020 No.17126224 >>17125594 >you see, your philosophy is cool and all, but it needs to account for trannies too so its not good enough there you go

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:55:23 2020 No.17126258 >>17126224 Almost two minutes went by and you still didn’t read the post above yours

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:56:45 2020 No.17126273 >>17126258 >>17126214 >>17126192 >>17126137 >>17126071 >>17125987 bum-bum shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 21:58:51 2020 No.17126286 >>17125621 But you must admit, there are some linguistic advances made under it. As there was also advances in truth and language made under the ridiculousness of the Sophists. However that was nothing someone like Plato didn't already know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 22:01:57 2020 No.17126315 >>17126286 who's analogous to Plato in the post-structual period?

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