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[Anonymous No.17118709]

3x3 thread poetry edition.

[Anonymous No.17118737]

I don’t know enough poets to make one. If I bump your thread will you recommend some who are similar in vibe to John Berryman?

[Anonymous No.17120220]

>>17118709
have a bump

[Anonymous No.17121504]

Bump

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17121642]

Current favorites, give me more recommendations in this vein lads.

Swinburne, verlaine, Poe, Baudelaire, blake, li-he, al-hallaj, angelus, Ovid, Petrarch, Horace, Edmund Spenser, Chaucer, Shakespeare John Keats, Mallarme

[Anonymous No.17122070]

>>17121642
>al-hallaj
>picture of Ali
Here's a pic of the guy for the next time you make this chart lol. Dunno why he's portrayed as an Orthodox icon though, there's one of those for Rumi as well. Good picks all around though, Chaucer and Blake really are phenomenal, and obviously I don't need to say that Shakespeare is as well.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17122082]

>>17122070

Yeah i know it’s Ali but I genuinely couldn’t find a photo of hallaj. Thanks!

Who would you rec I read?

[Anonymous No.17122088]

>>17121642
Check out Lautréamont, Valery and Apollinaire!

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17122104]

>>17122088

Read em all already, thanks anyways! I was shilling how I consider Lautréamont to be Rimbaud’s superior in that last Rimbaud thread and Apollinaire doesn’t get enough love around here on /lit/ I’ve read a small bit of Valery but plan to read much more.

Thanks anyways!

[Anonymous No.17122197]

>>17122104
Kind of agree with you about Lautréamont being superior to Rimbaud but even though their works are close they aim at different things. I don't think it's easy to find on the internet but Gracq makes a nice analysis of Lautreamont in Préférences and draws a parallel between him, Rimbaud and Jarry which is very interesting and true IMO.
You read Reverdy? He makes me think of Apollinaire and is one of my favourites.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17122225]

>>17122197

Never heard of him. I’ll see what I can find of his work. Same with the analysis.

To me the primary parallel between Rimbaud and lautreamont is that Rimbaud seeks a mystical poetic experience of the derangement of the senses, this animalistic hellish experience/mode producing self change and vision and so forth.

Compare this to the lycantropic work of lautreamont, his surreal and animalistic visions, it’s like you have the same method of Rimbaud plus even more so plus it has made his mind go even further.

But that’s my view on it, I also see him just as being able to write more beautifully.

What ought I read from Reverdy?

[Anonymous No.17122226]

>>17122082
Meng Haoran, Li Bai, and William Jay Smith

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17122336]

>>17122226

I’ve read li-bai haven’t read the other two. I know of Haoran but didn’t give him a chance yet.

[Anonymous No.17122440]

>>17122225
>lycanthropic
Interesting you mention that. Tristan Tzara talked about the lycanthropy of poets (particularly Baudelaire, Lautréamont, Rimbaud etc. up to the dadaists and surrealists), ultimately going back to the underrated Petrus Borel, known by that epithet.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17122453]

>>17122440

I haven’t read him either but I’ll definitely look out for some translations

[Anonymous No.17122963]

>>17122225
The comparison Gracq makes is more down-to-hearth but nonetheless interesting, especially because he puts Jarry with them while the comparison Lautreamont/Rimbaud is not very original. He shows this three authors as brilliant students who saw the normalisation happening in schools and the fact that society bends you into its ranks and who decided to rebel against it, hence why the subject of school is important in their writings (Ubu is inspired by one of Jarry's teacher). It is not a coincidence that Jarry was one of the few people who recognised Lautreamont's genius before the surrealists reminded the French literary scene about him. He recognised his debt to him and a lot of his writings draw a lot from Lautreamont's style.
As for Reverdy, I'd advise you to start with Plupart du temps or Sables mouvants.

[Anonymous No.17123087]

>>17118709
I wish these included names for people just getting into the art form.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17123100]

>>17122963

Thanks for all of the recommendations dude, I genuinely appreciate it.

>>17123087

That’s why I write the names of who’s on my list, but most people are willing to say who’s who if you ask.

What are some poets you are into anon?

[Anonymous No.17123129]

>>17123087
These are (>>17120220)
Char / Baudelaire / Lautréamont
Yeats / Eliot / Bonnefoy
Rilke / Reverdy / Apollinaire

>>17123100
You're welcome, it's always a pleasure to talk about something else than the usual memes

[Anonymous No.17123142]

>>17118709
>>17123087
donne auden frost
bishop heaney hughes
wc williams merrill zukofsky

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.17123164]

>>17123129

I really enjoyed blanchot’s essay on De Sade and Lautréamont, have you read it? He elaborates upon spiritual negation as the core of both of their works after a manner and the relation of violence/freedom in both of their works.

[Anonymous No.17124082]

Bump

[Anonymous No.17124192]

>>17123164
I am yet to read Blanchot. I tend to avoid reading on a screen and I try to get used copies of the books I want (lot of bookstore here so not so much of a problem) but Blanchot is always so expensive. One day I'll give in and buy L'Entretien Infini.
Is this essay long? If not I'll read it on my computer. Thanks for the rec, it looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.17124410]

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