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Who wins in their 1v1 debate match up?

>> No.17117778

Top row looks more attractive.

>> No.17117779

Stop posting this shit damnit

>> No.17117780

I call the bottom "McDonalds intellectualism"

>> No.17117792
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>>17117773
Chomsky beats Pinker
Focault beats Peterson
Stiller beats Derrida
Buckley beats Rogan
Zizek beats Russell
Also I need gook feet in my mouth all day every day.

>> No.17117795
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Young Chomsky really does look like Mike Douglas from this kino

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>>17117773
Harris is a shill.

>> No.17117801

>>17117773
Zizek and Singer aren't as bad as the others.

>> No.17117802

>>17117773
Buckley definitely wins, Foucault probably wins, Harris wins, Russell probably wins, Pinker maybe?

>> No.17117818

>>17117773
Wins:
Chomsky
Foucault
Derrida
Buckley
Žižek

should've mashed them up more, not just old vs new

>> No.17117821

>>17117800
For what, golden girls?

>> No.17117823

>>17117802
>Pinker maybe?
No.

>> No.17117829

>>17117773
Why do you put Zizek in the same bucket as those midwits?

>> No.17117830

>>17117821
Well it's a funny show.

>> No.17117841

>>17117800
>Quaker father
Moldbug was right.

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>>17117829
cause they're all teenagers

anyways, THIS

>> No.17117848

>>17117818
Correct.

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>>17117847
>ywn be as /lit/ as moldbug reciting poetry

>> No.17117862

>>17117847
>mmmmmminvadevietnam
vs
>mmmmmmvotebiden

>> No.17117948

>>17117829
Because he is a professional shitposter.

>> No.17117960

>>17117801
Pinker is the only actual intellectual there

>> No.17117976

>>17117960
on the bottom I mean

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>>17117960

Ok, pedo.

>> No.17118004

>>17117990
didn't say I like him, but he's published legitimate academic work even if most of it is pop

>> No.17118038

>>17117773
All look like complete faggots tb honest.

Are there any real heavyweights in literally world like in /sci/ there's Edwin Hubble, who knocked out a German heavyweight boxer, was an outstanding athlete and got a Rhodes scholarship to Oxford? I know Hemingway could stand his ground, but he doesn't really compare at all..

>> No.17118073

>>17117773
Chomsky and Pinker reach a pseud stalemate
Foucault wipes the floor with The Human Benzo
Derrida beats Derek Zoolander
Buckley beats The Apeman
Zizek and Russell have an actually interesting discussion that lasts until zizek starts telling too many jokes and becomes distracting

>> No.17118077

>>17118038
Platon was (probably) the greatest philosopher ever, he was a veteran hoplite, his mononym literally refers to how he was a broad shouldered Chad.

>> No.17118109

>>17117780
/thread

>> No.17118110

>>17118077
But he wasn't really a military man. Archilochus would be good, but he's not influential in the same measure.

>> No.17118111

>>17118073
What would Foucault and Peterson debate about?

>> No.17118120

>>17118111
A single paragraph of Nietzsche.

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>>17117829
zizek is retarded

He encourages people to blame the world for their problems.

>> No.17118157

>>17118126
No you are retarded, read his books.

>> No.17118523

>>17118157
You reading his books makes you more retarded

>> No.17118556

Chomsky
Foucault
Derrida and Harris are both hacks, so the audience loses
Rogan
Russell

>> No.17118606

>>17118556
How the fuck would Rogan beat Buckley in a debate?

>> No.17118626

>>17117773
Top row steamrolls and the only ones that will even be interesting on the bottom are Zizek and Pinker

>> No.17118634

>>17117780
Zizek isn't McDonalds. Zizek is a 1l bottle of shit wine from the convenience store.

>> No.17118658

>>17118606
Buckley was an airhead who could only succeed if you played his game. Rogan isn't smart enough to do that and would make Buck look like a fool.

>> No.17118671

>>17118658
Kek that makes a lot of sense actually.

Based. But what would they debate on?

>> No.17118886

foucualt would destroy peterson

>> No.17119538

>>17118004
so has Zizek and Peterson you retard

>> No.17119558

>>17118111
power relations

>> No.17119583

>>17117773
Bertrand Russell, no contest!

>> No.17119596

>>17119558
>Foucault's Power and Knowledge vs Peterson's Lobster Theory

kino

>> No.17119633

>>17117773
Also, just a reminder that the people in the pic have already debated amongst one another.

>Peterson vs Harris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jey_CzIOfYE

>Peterson vs Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWndfzuOc4

>Peterson and Joe Rogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIeFt88Hm8s

>Harris and Joe Rogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdDo1A7EsyM

>Joe Rogan and Steven Pinker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXATSgZuMS4

>Pinker and Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJLFvG8fd9c

>Chomsky vs Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyxAJr6kc5c

>Chomsky vs Buckley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt-GUAxmxdk&t=300s

>Chomsky vs Foucault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5wuB_p63YM

>> No.17120131

>>17117773
>Jordan Peterson
>Intellectual
neck yourself

>> No.17120150

>>17118110
Socrates was

>> No.17120166

>>17117773
Gas them all and we all win.

>> No.17120479

>>17120131
lol also
> Joe Rogan
> Zizek
> Sam Harris

>> No.17120522

>>17117773
Zizek and maybe Pinker are the only moderns worth a damned thing.

>> No.17120536

>>17118658
Does Rogan come with or without are the Jaimie included?

>> No.17120557

>>17117802
Pinker is unironicly the dumbest of the bottom row, even dumber than Roe Jogan

>> No.17120573

>>17120557
>even dumber than Roe Jogan
How?
I'm not too familiar with his work, what's the issue? I was under the impression he'd written a number of well received books

>> No.17120574

>>17118038
Socrates and Plato both fought in wars
Plato was massive and a wrestling champion
Epictetus had his leg broken and his reaction can be best summarised as "meh"
Archilochus, Alcaeus and Imru al-Qays were warriors first and poets on the side
Yukio Mishima had MASTERED THE BLADE
Marcus Aurelius spent day fighting goths and night writing his diary desu
Xenophon and Josephus were both fierce on the battlefield and excellent in their application of terrorist strategies
Caesar was well Caesar though he's more a military man than a hand to hand fighter unlike the ones above him
The less said of what Jünger thought of war the better
/lit/ has its own fighters but I don't think we have any equivalent to say Galois

>> No.17120600

>>17117773

Zizek takes a shit in Russell's mouth just by existing.

>> No.17120625

Pinker beats Chomsky in the battle of yards
Peterson beats Young Foucault but loses to Old Foucault
Derrida beats Harris
Buckley beats Rogan
Zizek Russel would be inconclusive as they wouldn't ever actually debate one another but rather talk past each other

>> No.17120632

>>17120574
don't forget those who went through WW1, there wasn't just Jünger there

>> No.17120765

>>17120632
Do you mean everyone in general or other /lit/ guys like J.R.R. Tolkein.

>> No.17120777

>>17120765
*Tolkien

>> No.17120817

>>17117800
>>>/pol/

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>>17117800
>Jewish but not religious

Those are the worst types of Jews imo.

>> No.17120915

>>17117773
Russell would stay very grounded in normal logic, so Zizek would just shift around through various systems and ideas. Buckley would clearly come across as smarter, but Joe would refuse to take a stance on anything, meaning that he can't actually be proven wrong on anything. The rest of the debates would be full of non-winners. It would be incoherent, brain-cell killing nonsense. These debates would be Trump vs Biden 1 look like the Lincoln-Douglas debates.

>> No.17120920

>>17120765
other writers of course, the warrior-poets of the lost generation (Marinetti, D'Annunzio, Malaparte, Drieu la Rochelle, Montherlant, Bernanos, T.E Lawrence, the list goes on and on), other great writers such as Céline of course but people like Blaise Cendrars and Hemingway, those who died during the war such as Charles Péguy, Guillaume Apollinaire, Alain Fournier...

>> No.17121132

>>17120573
His academic work is widelly cited, his pop sci books were generally well received, but his data-based arguments on how the world is progressing, based on liberal Enlightenment values, is bound to be reviled by critical theory types.

>> No.17121148

>>17117777

>> No.17121166

>>17117773
Chomsky is still alive and Rogan is not an intellectual.

The top row is just as bad as the bottom one.
Zizek, while a meme, is also quite good.

>> No.17121282

>matching up Foucault
>with Jordan fucking Peterson
Also, a daily reminder that right wingers who claim they’re not right wingers while, through sheer chance, permanently agreeing with right wing ideology should be preventatively shot

>> No.17121289

>>17121282
He is a liberal the overton window is just shifting left

>> No.17121290

>>17121282
Like marching Foucault with Joe Rogan would be funny af ngl but I do think Peterson would make Foucault think deep in a debate.

>> No.17121299

>>17117773
>Harris
>Peterson
>Rogan
Fuck, you may as well have gone full meme and put Dave Rubin and Ben Shapiro there too

>> No.17121338

>>17121289
>I’m not a right wing conservative, I’m actually a classical liberal/liberalist/left winger who left the left/some other bullshit synonym for right winger that pretends to differ from right wing conservatism but ultimately boils down to the same thing
This is why nobody likes Sargon and Tim Pool. It’s not because they’re right wing conservatives, it’s because they lie to your face about being right wing conservatives. They’re shifty eyed rats who constantly lie and gaslight you about something we all know is complete bullshit.

So, if any right winger who pretends to not be a right winger, while just being a right winger reads this, this is for you: no one is buying the act, kys

>> No.17121353

>>17117773
>Rogan is there
>Zizek matched with a top tier scientist
>All bottom row scientists matched with philosofaggots
What even is this

>> No.17121362

>>17121353
How would you fix it?

>> No.17121363

>>17121338
Sargon yeah but I think Tim Pool and Peterson are actually liberals, I'm sure if you asked they would both be fine with transgenderism or whatever they would just say "well I don't want you to force me to use their pronouns." Tim Pool obviously makes money by grifting but he himself has no real beliefs other than "honest journalism." Being anti-communist does't make you a conservative on its own.

>> No.17121397

>>17121353
Pinker and Chomsky are both scientists. Their work even overlaps.

>> No.17121398

>>17121362
I wouldn't put Rogan there and I would try to match scientists to scientists. Having a psychologist with philosophy-of-religion overtones like Peterson match a guy who just thinks about how to subvert frames of reference is just nonsensical.

>> No.17121534

>>17117773
Wtf? Why so many pseuds?
>Samuel Benjamin Harris
>Jordan Bernt Peterson
>Slavoj Žižek
>Joseph James "That's crazy man...have you ever tried DMT?" Rogan (not even a pseud but an out-and-out retard lol)
>Steven Arthur Pinker (not really a pseud but this faggot was friends with Epstein so fuck him)

>> No.17121674

>>17118634
Lmao

>> No.17121708

>>17121338
Liberal used to mean a person who values liberty, modern liberals are just big government loving Communists

>> No.17121733

>>17118126
>He encourages people to blame the world for their problems.
Do you want to know how we know your only exposure to Zizek is through half watching a Peterson debate?

>> No.17122130

>>17121363
>Sargon yeah but I think Tim Pool and Peterson are actually liberals
So what, most of their advice is utter shite. Particularly Peterson’s, his ‘philosophy’ is just moderate conservative midwitism

>> No.17122809

>>17117773
What the fuck is this supposed to be?

Joe Rogan is literally just a 105 IQ normie on drugs, with a microphone.

>> No.17123320

Rogan never even claimed to be an intellectual. He is a self admitted moron

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>>17117792
Based post.

>> No.17123592

>>17120574
Man, imagine being part of a society where the philosophers aren't stuffy academics but respected soldiers and statesmen.

>> No.17123630

>>17120866
The satanic ones are much much worse, they believe in saving their souls by spreading as much misery as possible
look up the sabbataean frankists

>> No.17123637

>>17120915
no the way Buckley and Rogan compete should be through interview of the same guests.

>> No.17123666

>>17123320
I'd like to see Rogan interviewing Plato and asking him about his wrestling career.

>> No.17124495

is buckley matched with rogan because they're both talk show personalities?

>> No.17125228

>>17124495
Probably

>> No.17125242

>>17117773
most of these guys were academics and phds and shit then there's joe rogan who is just a guy from fucking newsradio and fear factor turned podcast host with an mma hobby

>> No.17125245

>>17123666
>do you guys take DMT or drop acid while preforming the Eleusinian mysteries?