/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17114970]

I thought C. G. Jung was supposed to be a crackpot. Why is he liked here?

Same thing applies to Sigmund Freud.

[Anonymous No.17114999]

He's liked here because he is a crackpot. Freud wasn't a crackpot, just mostly wrong.

[Anonymous No.17115008]

>>17114999

[Anonymous No.17115018]

>>17114970
Psychoanalysis was historically pretty respected. You don't have to read much modern philosophy to see him name-dropped at some point.

[Anonymous No.17115084]

>>17114970
Nice bait. Jung is a giant.

[Anonymous No.17115105]

They both just spun a bunch of made-up just-so bullshit and called it science, but at least Jung wasnt obsessed with sexually fucking his mother.

[Anonymous No.17115236]

>>17114970
Jung is based
Freud's ideas that actually made sense are all common knowledge which just leaves his wrong ideas left to most people.

[Anonymous No.17115849]

>>17114970
You thought wrong. And you probably make a habit of it.

[Anonymous No.17116342]

I started reading his autobiography and it was full of schizo nonsense about demons and spooky ghosts. No thank you.

[Anonymous No.17116346]

>>17114970
>Jung
>Crackpot

You're thinking of Freud

[Anonymous No.17116354]

>>17116342
What else do you expect from an autobiography? If you want a rigorous introduction, try Two Essays on Analytical Psychology

[Anonymous No.17116365]

>>17114970
The idea that archetypes could be universal is pretty fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.17116380]

>>17114970
I just read him because I liked Evangelion

[Anonymous No.17116521]

>>17116365
Not really, don't care to debate you seem too stupid

[Anonymous No.17116546]

>>17116365
>The idea that archetypes could be universal is pretty fucking retarded
Isn't that a sidenote to Plato's forms?

[Anonymous No.17116572]

>>17116521
On Christmas? Very rude.
>>17116546
Well I mean that's another thing entirely, but I think Platonic forms are still more of a reasonable concept than universal archetypes. I personally disagree with Plato on that issue, but he was far more intelligent than me so I wouldn't call him a retard. Jung however, should get nothing but ridicule.

[Anonymous No.17116626]

>>17116365
Jung makes a distinction between archetypes and archetypal images, which you would know, had you actually read his work.

[Anonymous No.17116649]

>>17116626
I bow my head before a /lit/ poster who actually reads, excuse my shitposting my liege. No one other than one of the few /lit/fags who reads would have caught me.

[Anonymous No.17116656]

Jung is the antidote to the madness of our current state of affairs.

[Anonymous No.17116706]

>>17116656
>Jung is the antidote to the madness of our current state of affairs.
Why so?

[Anonymous No.17116752]

>>17116706
Because he doesn't let you blur the lines.
There is feminine and there is masculine.
The opposites have to work together in balance, like ying and yang.
Trannies are mentally ill. Feminine men aren't men. Every psychic crisis has a long mental history. Big state is attempting to play the God role and attain absolute control over how your life should be lived.
Social media is substitution to real life interaction and therefore harmful for you.

There is bullshit you won't be able to wiggle yourself out from if you understand at least some of Jung.
I don't talk much about Jung. Most people aren't worth having a conversation with anyway, especially on the internet.

[Anonymous No.17116791]

>>17116752
So it's more tradfaggot LARPer bullshit for incels to justify why they hate trannies and feel good about themselves because they have nothing going for their lives, got it

[Anonymous No.17116801]

>>17116791
Kek
You tried at least

[Anonymous No.17116826]

>>17116752
You're almost making me take the Jung-pill. It would be pretty funny arguing with psychiatrists against trannies in their own grounds.
How influent is him to the current psychological thinking?
They still take him seriously?
I think he's pretty based with that "the source is: I saw in my dreams". Kek

[Anonymous No.17116828]

>>17116801
Good luck with your tradcath virgin gf you turbofaggot

[Anonymous No.17116837]

>>17116791
ITT: the tranny.
Huehue

[Anonymous No.17116849]

>>17116791
TRANNIES MAD X24

[Anonymous No.17116867]

>>17116826
>current psychological thinking
modern psychology is nothing but pill-pushing and guilt absolution. a girl goes to a shrink and cries about her problems, then the shrink says "wow you have a lot of problems, but none of them are your fault, here take these 6 different pills twice a day." i've seen this happen many times with family members, friends, class mates. it's beyond retarded. psychology has been industrialized in a way that it never was in Jung's time.

[Anonymous No.17116875]

>>17116826
I don't give a fuck if he saw it in a dream or not.
We are so pathologically fixated on finding confirmation from external sources. It makes my eyes bleed to read that someone prefers to have things in life confirmed via written paper than with their own experience. Those are the kind of people that need to be told what they are seeing instead of really seeing. Pure retardation at work. Jung wasn't afraid to tell others to go fuck themselves if they have no internal source of knowledge.

>How influent is him to the current psychological thinking?
Probably not much.
My therapist did say trannies are mentally ill though.

[Anonymous No.17116878]

>>17116837
>>17116849
Cope, I'm a straight male. I just hate posturing reddit LARPing faggots like you. Imagine being a grown men and reading this "big state ying yang" schizobabble and taking it seriously just because you can't cope with the existence of trannies so you need some bizarro mystical alternate reality just so you can say "trannies bad" and be able to sleep. It's pathetic, the spirit of reddit runs in your veins.

[Anonymous No.17116886]

>17116878
this isn't even good trolling. embarrassing attempt. stop shitting up a based Jung thread.

[Anonymous No.17116902]

>>17116791
>Jung making trannies seethe

[Anonymous No.17116908]

>>17116886
>WOAH THIS GUY LITERALLY MADE UP EVERYTHING AND MOST PEOPLE RECOGNIZE IT AS PURE NONSENSE BUT HE IMPLIES THAT TRANNIES ARE CRINGE AND THAT MAKES HIM BASED! BASED BASED JOONG

[Anonymous No.17116912]

>>17116828
>implying any supporter of traditional art says your pic related
Nice strawman.

[Anonymous No.17116916]

I don't like how people instantly call Freud a PoS without reading anything he wrote.

[Anonymous No.17116923]

>>17116908
>Jung made up everything
Literally anyone with the vaguest knowledge of Western thought can see this is not true.

[Anonymous No.17116931]

>>17116923
Post literally any scientific study that proves any of the bullshit Jung wrote about right now.

[Anonymous No.17116933]

>>17116908
>>17116931
you are so mad lmao why does Jung trigger you so much? is the HRT making you moody?

[Anonymous No.17116959]

>>17116826
the "this was revealed to me in a dream" footnote wasn't from Jung, but he definitely does talk about how his own dreams have changed his life (e.g. a dream gave him the inspiration for Man and His Symbols)

[Anonymous No.17116996]

>>17116867
Pills can be useful anon. I thought modern psychology mostly focused on CBT and potentially useful strategies like confronting problems or gradual improvement.

[Anonymous No.17117019]

>>17116931
>scientific study
>he thinks psychology is a science defined by statistics
What a retard.

[Anonymous No.17117020]

>>17116878
Feminine/Masculine are absolutes. I think you might be anima posessed.

[Anonymous No.17117063]

>>17116875
>I don't give a fuck if he saw it in a dream or not.
Don't get me wrong. I'm sympathetic to this kind of view. I think the obssession with sources is just one form of authority's argument. Also, I haven't actually read him, but Kant strikes me as if he reached his own conclusions by similar processes (you know, sensory deprivation etc).

>My therapist did say trannies are mentally ill though.
At least. I confess I wasn't expecting that. I thought the contemporary therapists would be the ones pushing this kind of stuff. I mean, they can't be above the wall, they gotta take sides eventually. Since these people will go to their offices asking for answers and they will have to act their "priestly roles" to them, for the good or for the worse.
Plus, it amazes me the temporal/scientific veil/prestige psychology enjoy today, when we see the "mystical" roots of some of its major figures.

[Anonymous No.17117083]

>>17116878
>bizarro mystical alternate reality just so you can say "I'M A WOMAN IN THE BODY OF A MAN".
It goes both ways freak faggot.

[Anonymous No.17117096]

>>17116933
Yes the mere mention of Jung triggers me. His face literally screams reddit. Anything with that "mystic aura" is literal reddit. Denial of reality, ironically just like the trannies they criticize so much. Fuck just thinking of Jung makes the image of that faggot Peterson slowly pop up in my mind, the ultimate paragon of midwittery, pseudry, pseudo-depth... and then his image changes again. It morphs into that fucking orange alien. A swarm of basedjaks surrounds the alien, with their mouths open. All I can think of is the fucking alien just staring at me, emanating pure stupidity yet also power. I deeply envy it. I wish I could be so fucking stupid, so fucking cringe, so fucking evidently idiotic, yet still be this powerful. It's a level of pure metaphysical retardation that baffles me so much it starts to dominate me. I'll fucking admit it. Reddit lives rent free in my head. I vehemently reject anything that has a mere odor of reddit. The problem is that it's so powerful that it permeates even completely different ideologies. The hatred of trannies can be reddit as well. It is even one of the most alarmingly reddit things I see all the time. You can just imagine the redditor writing "tranny" and getting his dopamine fix, his adrenaline shot from GASP saying something his colony would reject. I can't even trust tranny haters anymore. Now Jung... Just look at this motherfucker. Look at the stuff he preaches. You can just imagine, just PICTURE endless Jung quotes posted everywhere on reddit. Comments claiming he's a genius. Reddit gold awarded to these comments. The pure lack of self-awareness, worshipping this charlatan just because he sounds "deep". Then there's fucking Peterson. Literal evidence that tradfaggot and christfaggot LARPers carry the torch of reddit deep inside them, despite their denial. Their oh so dangerous to modernity ideology is present all over reddit. "Based Jung! He's so smart and based and hates trannies! I said the funny word I'm a 4channer! Peterson is based haha!" I see through you. I see through all of you. You all have the reddit virus. You all are basedjaks. All I see when I read your post are bald men with their mouth open. I can literally see universes forming inside your face-hole when you type in "Jung". Don't think I haven't noticed. I can see it in you. I can see you and other thousands of gaping mouths orbiting this giant soulless alien, staring at me. Staring at me always. I fucking hate all of you. I fucking hate Jung. Never post this fucking hack again. Freudfags are fine. Lacanfags are fine. Jung is just reddit. I SMELL the reddit in him. Do not fucking post him. Stop corrupting this board. There are things that simply have the reddit essence, the touch. And I'm the one who knows. One day I'll find all of you and destroy you. And the fucking smug alien will leave my head. For now, I'll just shit on every mention of this hack, and the lobster hack, and anything that carries this redditor essence.

[Anonymous No.17117125]

^ ^ ^ ^ This post is all the evidence anyone should need to see that transgenderism is a mental illness. Observe how insane this tranny has become.

>>17116996
pills and CBT are effective means of treating certain psychological ailments, but I think depth psychology can help address the root causes better. I'm not saying you should ignore modern psychology, it just doesn't solve all the problems that it proports to.

[Anonymous No.17117127]

>>17117096
>Denial of REALITY
You've never a philosophy book, did you, you faggot?

[Anonymous No.17117131]

>>17117096
JUNG JUNG JUNG JUNG
Seethe more, you mentally ill freak.

[Anonymous No.17117194]

>>17117125
I'm not a tranny you redditor faggot. I see through you. You're a faggot.
>>17117127
Depends. I've read non-reddit philosophers like Rand. Shit like Socrates FUCK I hate Socrates, he literally LITERALLY is reddit pseudism personified. I consider him proto-reddit. Plato would have posted his faggot Socrates fanfic on reddit. I'm sure of it. A lot of the philosophers you faggot spam here reek of reddit. Like Camus or Zizek. Or Peterfuckfaggotshitlobsterfucker if he counts as a philosopher. I can tell and you can't escape from me.
>>17117131
Fuck you faggot. Stop posting this faggot. Pic related is you. You're seething because I found you out.

[Anonymous No.17117203]

>>17115105
You should read more before posting on /lit/

[Anonymous No.17117209]

>17117194
alright yeah this is a confirmed troll. a shame that a BASED jung thread got derailed because of him.

[Anonymous No.17117231]

>>17117209
We could always make more threads, you know. I'll be happy to do the honors.

[Anonymous No.17117240]

>>17117209
OK redditor. Keep wanking over muh archetypes, much "shadow"/(literal star wars tier onions bullshit, seriously how do you faggots manage to write this shit with a straight face). Fuck you and this hack.

[Anonymous No.17117249]

>>17117194
Quit posting reddit images

[Anonymous No.17117259]

>>17117209
>alright yeah this is a confirmed troll.
Yeah. After >I've read non-reddit philosophers like Rand.
all my doubts about that were shattered.

[Anonymous No.17117270]

>>17117231
I'm gonna go read some Jung actually ; ) I'll see you in the next BASED Jung thread tho.

[Anonymous No.17117271]

I just assume anyone who denounces Jung is a NPC.

[Anonymous No.17117274]

>>17117125
CBT is primarily popular not because its effective (it is) but because it's highly structured, goal oriented and short term, which makes it easy for insurance companies to check their little boxes. Many psychologists would agree with you that more in-depth psychotherapists would be better long-term, it's just harder to get insurance companies to sign off on them

[Anonymous No.17117283]

>>17114999
>Inverted 6's
>Defending Freud
>name calling Jung
Ahhh, if it's not the famous usurers of Normative Inversion, Mr. ((()))Stein.

How do you do?

[Anonymous No.17117291]

>>17117240
Why are leftist such massive Psychopaths?

[Anonymous No.17117315]

>>17117283
Average Jungfaggot everyone. Literal shizo-tier conspiracy theorist lunatics.
>>17117291
Fuck you faggot.

[Anonymous No.17117317]

>>17117240
You should really confront your shadown anon, you're a tad aggressive.

[Anonymous No.17117322]

>>17117271
this.

[Anonymous No.17117331]

>>17117315
>Jews are a conspiracy theory
kek

[Anonymous No.17117339]

>>17117096
Thanks, just ordered Man and His Symbol.

[Anonymous No.17117345]

>>17117315
>Fuck you faggot.
>admits he is a leftist and a psycopath

[Anonymous No.17117357]

>>17117345
>implying I'm a leftist when I explicitly pointed out my hatred for anything with the reddit essence
I'm a libertarian. There are based non-reddit leftists though like classical Marxists. The liberal reddit leftism is cringe.

[Anonymous No.17117362]

>>17115105
>sexually fucking

To what other fucking would you be referring.

[Anonymous No.17117382]

>>17117096
> I'll fucking admit it. Reddit lives rent free in my head.
And you call us the schizos...

[Anonymous No.17117396]

>>17117194
>Peterfuckfaggotshitlobsterfucker
Really now, can you afford to hate reddit?

[Anonymous No.17117407]

>>17116867
I guess I got lucky. I'm all sorts of fucked up and my therapist is a /lit/ bro who gave me one pill to take a day.

[Anonymous No.17117427]

>>17117096
Do you have a source on that? A study, perhaps. Even a rigorous definition of 'Reddit' would suffice.

[Anonymous No.17117433]

>>17116365
t. Has no idea what DNA is

[Anonymous No.17117479]

>>17117427
I'm too lazy to write a definition, but I definitely know it when I see it. It's instinctual. I have a mental map of things I consider "base reddit" and then deduce if something is reddit (or crypto-reddit, limit-of-reddit, and various other ones, its pretty complex) based on connections between these central nodes. There's reddit philosophy, reddit science, reddit politics, reddit media, etc. then various branches from these nodes like reddit metaphysics for example. The mental map only grows larger and more complex the more information I consume and the more I understand this very abstract redditor essence.

[Anonymous No.17117530]

>>17117479
Well my friend, if you want us to know if something is Reddit in your absence, you must provide us with a definition. It's a blessing to have you deduce what is and is not Reddit, but we can't reasonably expect you to do this all the time day and night. Maybe just an outline of a definition would suffice for now?

[Anonymous No.17117540]

>>17117479
This is very r*ddit

[Anonymous No.17117615]

>>17114970
>Why is he liked here?
pseuds

[Anonymous No.17117623]

>>17117357
>I'm a libertarian.
You were based until this.

[Anonymous No.17117635]

>>17117271
>>17117322
On the contrary, anyone who thinks Jung is anything but a complete charlatan that thinks his wacky occultist theorizing leads to any valuable insights is a sophist midwit.

[Anonymous No.17117658]

>>17117530
I'll try: intoxicating obnoxiousness, not the merely annoying kind but the soul-penetrating, deeply angering kind that keeps you thinking. A tendency to normalcy; to blandness. Sterilization. Willful ignorance, or, lack of a will for non-ignorance. Conformism. Iconolatry. Smugness, but a very special kind, a confidence built on virtual points (these kind of points are abstract, based primarily on upvotes but can take any form like "based" and "cringe"). A 4channer with redditor spirit, for example, will unconsciously count the baseds and the cringes, adding to his confidence or lack thereof. You can tell by how his way of posting implies of desire of basedness, of the upvote. Perpetually humorous, jokey, but of a shallow kind. You can immediately tell a redditor by his humor. Surface level. Underneath the redditor there is nothing, just pure abstract intelligence, with a specific goal of upvote accumulation. A certain way of typing too, somewhat expressive. Informative. The redditor is always trying to inform you; to educate you. He is a constant flow of information. Superficial warmth. Mysticism. Reddit loves mysticism. The mysterious. The shallow mystery. That which one cannot know interests him, vague but interesting enough to get upvotes. You can see the redditor is a complex assemblage of various different attributes. I'm probably forgetting some, but I hope you get an idea. This combination creates a toxic, parasitic entity that will try its best to get inside you, even in the most unexpected ways (reddit conservatism, Peterson, TheDonald). It's some kind of metaphysical being that longs for upvotes, in every way that upvotes could manifest. It's a parasite devouring everything that it sees and you should be very wary of it.

[Anonymous No.17117685]

>>17117658
People will shit on you (and probably rightfully so) but I agree with every single thing you said.

[Anonymous No.17117718]

>>17117203
>read more
Why, so he can fill his head with even more nonsense?

[Anonymous No.17118398]

>>17117339
Get Jung's and Tolkien Red Book.