/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17107696]

This true or just jest writefags?

[Anonymous No.17107706]

>>17107696
>austen
DROPPED

[Anonymous No.17107717]

>>17107706
t. incel white trash pleb

[Anonymous No.17107719]

>>17107696
It's a good list

[Anonymous No.17107795]

>Georges "I can't actually write to save my life but here's some lifeless formalism" Perec is in but Celine isn't

[Anonymous No.17107797]

>>17107696
>>17107696
No. Those people on the list obviously did not follow this list and therefore the list is not necessary.
I would recommend reading diaries and journals just because though.

[Anonymous No.17107866]

>>17107696
where's BIGWILLIE? lol

[Anonymous No.17108231]

>>17107696
>western centric
>he didn't start with the greeks and finish with the japanese

[Anonymous No.17108259]

>>17107696
>Does not include the greeks
Dropped

[Anonymous No.17108270]

>>17108259
This is for creative writing you retard

[Anonymous No.17108885]

>>17108270
It's a good list, but it's too prescriptive. I dislike the overall vibe (imperative). As if anyone who forgot to read Dickens (who is trash anyway, especially compared to his contemporaries Austen and Hardy) is incapable of writing a novel, let alone a good novel. Whoever wrote this syllabus exaggerates his standing at the foyer of the canon. He thinks of himself as a gatekeeper and of his students as riffraff. He will not be a good teacher, but will be embittered and headstrong about his tastes. He probably is a failed novelist himself.

[Anonymous No.17108973]

>>17107696
Not a bad list, but too puffed with novelists (I reckon there are less than ten novels truly worth reading). Needs more poetry.

[Anonymous No.17108981]

>>17108973
>I reckon there are less than ten novels truly worth reading
This board just keeps getting worse

[Anonymous No.17108985]

>>17108885
>He probably is a failed novelist himself.
All creative writing teachers are, especially the nobelists

[Anonymous No.17108987]

>>17108973
it's for writers of fiction, says so up at the top

[Anonymous No.17109000]

>>17107696
This makes me think of a funny story in A Moveable Feast. Hemingway wants to get Pounds opinion on Dostoevsky and Tolstoy, he meets him in the street and goes on about how Dostoevsky writes like shit but is somehow still good.

Pound just says something like
>You know Hem, I have to admit I still haven't read any of the Roosians.

Made me laugh when I read it. To a degree it's very important to read, but sometimes you are also just blessed, touched by God.

[Anonymous No.17109018]

>>17108987
Fiction includes both prose and poetry, not sure what your point is.
>>17108981
I'm right. Try to name more than 10 MUST READ novels. You're going to be hard-pressed.

[Anonymous No.17109124]

>>17109018
Don Quixote
War and Peace
Anna Karenina
Crime and Punishment
Brothers Karamazov
Pride and Prejudice
Wuthering Heights
Middlemarch
Madame Bovary
Portrait of a Lady
Moby Dick
Les Miserables
The Trial
A la Recherche du Temps Perdu
Der Zauberberg
Ulysses
Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften
Molloy
East of Eden
Cien Anos de Solidad
Blood Meridian
Mason & Dixon

[Anonymous No.17109169]

>>17107696
Give me back my list you fucking cunt, no need to seethe because I didn't fellate your mid-wit takes on Patrick White.

[Anonymous No.17109190]

>>17107696
It wouldn't hurt.

[Anonymous No.17109191]

>>17109169
hey now, institutional bullying is not ok Professor M

[Anonymous No.17109196]

>>17108973
>>writers of fiction
>too puffed up by novelists needs more poetry
this board is retarded

[Anonymous No.17109376]

>>17108885
>Dickens is worse than Austen and Hardy

Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.17109383]

>>17108973
>I reckon there are less than ten novels truly worth reading
There are hundreds

[Anonymous No.17109416]

>>17107797
Those people were also high intelligent artists, and the typical contemporary fiction writer is just some dork with a highly visual imagination that is writing because they don't have the gumption, imagination, or resourcefulness to make visual media. They choose to write for no other reason than they can see the words they produce with immediacy, which provides an illusion of accomplishments versus having to produce something visual, which is both time consuming and readily apparent when it doesn't match the pictures in their head.

[Anonymous No.17109419]

>>17107696
This would actually be a good programme, so I doubt it's real.

[Anonymous No.17109432]

>>17109124
>Cien Anos
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[Anonymous No.17109481]

>>17107696
You typed this up yourself, didn't you? This is far too based for a creative working course at college. I would add T.S Eliot's poetry to the list, as well as Sherwood Anderson since he was a major influence on Faulkner

[Anonymous No.17109539]

>>17109124
Only two of those are must reads. Try again, anon.
>>17109196
t. chart brain.
>>17109383
No, there aren't. Most novels are over-rated and unnecessary. The novel itself is a sign of the decline of literature. Poetry is the quintessence of literature and should be the focus of any reader worth his salt.

[Anonymous No.17109560]

>>17109539
shut the fuck up bitch boy

[Anonymous No.17109582]

>>17107797
Thought it was bizarre Perec was in there, especially a fucking biography on him. Clearly the prof's thesis topic. It's just some run of the mill 2002 grad school hipster list. Of course there is good stuff on there but a fair bit betrays borderline pseudery. Paz and Unamuno? Verga? Surprised Martin Buber, Santayana and Giono aren't in there. Slippery slope of 'lists.' Besides that, the fact you can barely understand some of those authors without having knowledge of the Bible (conspicuously not required), yet he recommends strongly a grandpa-tier biography of Balzac makes me hate this pretentious faggot. Happy holidays, frens.

[Anonymous No.17109591]

>>17109539 (you)

[Anonymous No.17109989]

>>17109560
>>17109591
>zero responses
>can only think in retarded 4channel memes
Yup, I won this argument. Come back when you graduate from middle school.

[Anonymous No.17110004]

>>17109989
>i won

[Anonymous No.17110028]

>>17110004
Yup, you got owned bad. The cope posts are ensuing and I'm having a laugh watching your meltdown.

[Anonymous No.17110035]

>>17108885
Holy based Dickens fucking sucks ass

[Anonymous No.17110180]

I go by Hemingway's line "If any sonofabitch could write, he wouldn't have to teach it in college." There's a creative writing course at my (best in the country) college. The professor has written two books, both have 3.5 on goodreads and no presence anywhere.

[Anonymous No.17110717]

>>17110180
>he judges writing by its Goodreads score and "presence"

[Anonymous No.17110814]

>>17109539
Stop being so fucking gay dude. Literature is not half as serious as it is portrayed by sour academics

[Anonymous No.17110838]

>>17109000
moveable feast is such a fun book

[Anonymous No.17110941]

>>17110814
The guy's mindset has nothing to do with how academics treat literature, just to make that clear. The era of pompous elitists such as Nabokov (whose critical work is largely just made up of pissing on random colleagues) is long gone. Look at Bloom, even his work, despite being labelled as elitist (by retards), overly obsessed with the canon, was radiating pure love for literature and reading, never being actually exclusivist.

[Yung Byr()n No.17111136]

>>17109539
>>17109124
You are acting in bad faith, Anon, and I can tell. There are at least 5 must read novels by any standard on that list. I would like to hear what your “must-read novels” are just so I can tell if you are a pseud or not.

[Anonymous No.17111148]

>>17111136
Fuck off tripfag.

[Anonymous No.17111195]

>>17107696
>No Shakespeare, Dostoevsky, Homer or other ancient Greeks, or Bible under must
>Moderist bullshit galore
>Literal whos
>A list of biographies on dead writers we know nothing about
Jeez

[Anonymous No.17111216]

>>17111195
>>No Shakespeare, Dostoevsky, Homer or other ancient Greeks, or Bible under must
Dostoevsky sucks and it's for creative writing so that other stuff doesn't belong on there.
>>Literal whos
There are no literal whos on that list you are just an illiterate.

[Anonymous No.17111286]

>>17110180
Not to brag, but Harry Bloom publicly praised the poems of my writing professor.

[Anonymous No.17111289]

>>17111216

[Anonymous No.17111319]

>>17111216
>Dostoevsky sucks
Based. Fuck Dostoyevsky.

[Anonymous No.17111328]

>>17107696
>Alfa’s
List author fucks. Shut up and comply.

[Anonymous No.17112247]

>>17107696
>overlap between must and should
DROPPED

[Anonymous No.17112342]

>>17107696
I think this list has too little (almost nothing) poetry.

[Anonymous No.17112731]

>>17111148
That's not a tripfag