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>favorite book
>favorite anime

i'll start

>Anna Karenina
>Aria

>> No.17106451
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roadside picnic & akagi

>> No.17106457

>>17106443
>>favorite book
Proust's Recherche
>>favorite anime
>

>> No.17106458

Book of the new sun
Sakura Quest

>> No.17106463
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>Dino Buzzati's "The Tartar Steppe"
>"Cannon Fodder" ("Memories" 3parter OVA, 1995)

>> No.17106473

>>17106443
The Horse and His Boy
COMEDY, directed by Kazuto Nakazawa

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It’s a tie between multiple anime’s but I’ll do this since it pairs well.

>the Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz
>Revolutionary Girl Utena

The anime is filled to the brim with Rosicrucian and Kabbalistic references and it’s actually subtle enough about it that if you didn’t know about these things, you’d never know it was being referenced. It’s also incredibly comfy.

>> No.17106527

>>17106463
Have you seen So Ra No Wo To? It has an interesting parallell to The Tartar Steppe imo, but with Kanata and the others coping with their situation in a way Drogo couldn't.

Yes I mean it

>> No.17106555

>>17106443
I wish I was a Jap schoolgirl

>> No.17106572

Narcissus and Goldmund
Welcome to the NHK

>> No.17106574

>>17106555
same

>> No.17106590

>>17106443
The Book of Disquiet
Girl's Last Tour

>> No.17106624

>>17106527
Watched it a few years back, but i faintly recall the plot details. Guess it didn't leave much of an impression. For that sort of theme, I prefer the prison arch at the beginning of Rainbow: Nisha Rokubou no Shichinin.

That said, your recc in turn reminded me of Haibane Renmei. Should give it a watch if you haven't already, anon.

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In Search of Lost Time
Hyouka

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The trial
Magical senpai

>> No.17106962

>>17106590
Based. Girls Last Tour is great.
>Ulysses
>Prisma Illya

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>>17106443

The Trial.
Apart stuff from Ankama, "C" is pretty much the only anime I've enjoyed. Somehow the idea of mixing a mystical fighting storyline with economic theory really fucking amused me.

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>Moby-Dick
>either Neon Genesis Evangelion or Azumanga Daioh

>> No.17107048

>>17106443
Lolita
The Tatami Galaxy

>> No.17107079

>The Waves
>Eva

>> No.17107108
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The Once and Future King
Porco Rosso

>>17106443
Aria is also one of my favorites so I'll have to bump Anna Karenina up to the top of my to-read list.

>> No.17107237

>>17106443
>The Opposing Shore
>

>> No.17107253

Paradise Lost

Evangelion

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Stoner

Jojo

>> No.17107320

Mein Kampf
K-On

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>Paradise Lost
>Kaiji

>> No.17107374

>Wind-Up Bird Trilogy - Murakami
>Serial Experiments Lain

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>>17106443
Notes from the Underground
Probably Cowboy Bebop (but Initial D has recently become too much of a guilty pleasure to ignore)

>> No.17107412

Runaway Horses

Planetes or Akira

>> No.17107416

>>17106443
Lolita
Welcome to the nhk

>> No.17107518

>the divine comedy
>the redo of healer adaptation once it's released

>> No.17107548
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Journey to the end of the night
Kino no tabi
>>17106590
based doomerbro

>> No.17107554

Neuromancer
Kyou Kara Ore Wa

>> No.17107569
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Phenomenologie des Geistes
Yuru Yuri

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>>17107569
Basado

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>>17106443
The Master and Maragrita
Perfect Blue

>> No.17107618

Is the tranny Tkmiz still going? Not killed self yet?

>> No.17107625

favourite book = sailor who fell from grace with the sea
favourite anime = really enjoyed Kaiji but that's the latest anime I saw

Castor Klapaucius on MAL

>> No.17107629

>>17107352
Does Paradise Lost have a similar feeling to Kaiji?

>> No.17107636

>>17107010
sounds intriguing
will check out

>> No.17107664

>In Search of Lost Time/ Inferno

>Neon Genesis Evangelion/ Tatami Galaxy/ Ghost in the Shell (1995)/ Ergo Proxy

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>>17107108
Levins parts in AK are peak comfy. Enjoy!
>>17106624
I've seen Haibane. Liked it a lot more than Lain.

>> No.17107851

Iliad
Dont watch anime, Girls und panzer is cool though

>> No.17108050

>>17106443
what have I got to read before I can read Fanged Noumena and understand it?

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>>17106443
I dont read books because I'm not a nerd
I dont watch anime because I'm not a tranny

>> No.17108109

>>17106443
>Ferdydurke probably
>either FLCL or Ping Pong

>> No.17108134
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No longer human
Ergo Proxy, anything that is made by Abe

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>Ningen Shikkaku (No Longer Human)
>Blind Owl strong second

>Kino no Tabi

>> No.17108161

>>17106494
Are you the guy who writes Star Slate Codex by any chance? He did a post on Alchemical references in My Immortal (the HP fanfic, yes.) sounds just like your post.

>> No.17108172

>>17107618
>tranny
>Tkmiz
do a flip off a highway overpass

>> No.17108187

>>17106655
Hyouka is my favourite anime as well. I have to read that book.

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>>17106443
The Collected Works of Aristotle/The Confessions of St. Augustine
A three-way tie between Trigun and JJBA: Part 6 and 7 (The last two are mangos technically)

>> No.17108322

>>17108050
nothing since it's gibberish
maybe HRT: the manual

>> No.17108328

>>17108172
self-inserts as the glasses sister in SS and has tweets of hating women and licking cum

>> No.17108337
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>>17106443
Crime and Punishment

Oregairu Zoku

>> No.17108354

https://voca.ro/13qoma71jIw4

>> No.17108497

>>17107629
Ehh not really. I enjoy both of them very much but I wouldn't call them similar.

>> No.17108625

>that OP file
what a based pic

>> No.17108631

Crime and Punishment
Code Geass

>> No.17108641

>>17106443
btw Aria is an amazing series
is Anna Trannyina like Aria?

>> No.17108650

>>17108497
I need more of what Kaiji gave me.
Maybe philosophy scratches the itch.

>> No.17108661

>>17108650
Read/watch other stuff by the Fukumoto.

>> No.17108673

>>17108161

Never heard it, I’ve read my immortal and perhaps I just hadn’t looked for it, Utena’s occultism is pretty reasonable, I mean it’s literally about the rose bride and marriage; the messiahic prince and so forth.

I’ll google the fellow and see if he’s any fun

>> No.17108676

>>17106443
>The Iliad
>Only ever watched the original Yugioh when I was a kid

>> No.17108698

>>17108161

I remember this guy, didn’t recognize the name of the blog. No but I’m aware of him because lesswrong was fun to read through. And then another time when I was on a dive investigating all of the cracked out people associated with it. Is his writing actually any good?

>> No.17108704

>>17108661
Will do.

>> No.17108713

>>17108650
Watch/read other stuff written by Fukumoto like Akagi or Strongest Man Kurosawa

>> No.17108795

>>17106443
>Lolita, Moby Dick or The Divine Comedy
Don't have a favourite anime, but Aku no Hana is my favourite manga.

>> No.17108810

>>17106443
>The Collected Poems of Wallace Stevens
Breaking the rules to say the Vinland Saga manga because I hear the anime was really bad.
>>17106463
Cannon Fodder was my least favorite of the three, Magnetic Rose was absolute kino tho.
>>17106494
I watched the first episode of Utena and dropped it to watch other shows, I should get around to picking it back up.
>>17106655
Hyouka is definitely the best Kyoani show and one of my personal favorites.
>>17107108
>Porco Rosso
Ponyo and Princess Mononoke are better films.
>>17107374
Based fellow Murakami enjoyer. Should get around to watching Lain as well.

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>>17106443
Moby-Dick
Cowboy Bebop
I don’t watch anime really.

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>> No.17108920

>>17108073
>I dont read books because I'm a retard
>I dont watch anime because I'm based
FTFY
Based retard

>> No.17108946

>>17108902
Pretty based.

>> No.17108963

>Notes From Underground
>Monogatari

>> No.17108969

>>17108920
>I don't read books because I'm a retard
>I don't watch anime because I'm a cringe retard
FTFY
Based retard.

>> No.17108974

>the monogatari series
>the monogatari series

>> No.17108983

>>17108963
Based.

>> No.17109060

>>17108641
>Trannyina
what

>> No.17109066

>>17109060
Just being a dick, don't mind me.

>> No.17109106

A Song of Ice and Fire
Monster

>> No.17109118

>>17109066
Some of the Levin parts have a similar tranquil vibe to Aria, but the rest not really.

>> No.17109176

>>17108713
the legend of kurosawa is really based

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Does manga count or do we have to list things that aired on television?

>> No.17109327

>>17109106
how could you do Monster dirty like that

>> No.17109328

>>17108698
star slate? he's the second coming of the last psychiatrist. i didn't know he was with lesswrong (though i read the entirety of sequences.) he's pretty ingenius. i haven't read everything in his archives, but enough. his blog just came back online, some trannies at the NYT were trying to dox him for god knows what and it caused drama for a while. apparently he's good now? idk what happened really or why we let whonalists get away with it.

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The Picture of Dorian Gray
Ouran High School Host Club

>> No.17109399

>>17106443
The Beautiful and Damned by Fitzgerald
Porco Rosso

>> No.17109461

>>17107010
You should watch Gatchaman Crowds Insight. It's directed by the same guy, but this time mixing themes of democracy, technology, and crowd psychology instead of macroeconomics.

>> No.17109472

Philosophie der Erlösung
Watamote

>> No.17109684

>faust
>kimi no na wa

>> No.17109727

The Brothers Karamazov
K-On!

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>>17108974
this

>> No.17109750

>>17107079
damn these are my second favorites in both categories, based

>> No.17109794

>>17106443
>the sorrows of young werther
>serial experiments lain

>> No.17109802

>>17109794

How do you feel about Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship?

>> No.17109826

>>17109327
ASOIAF unironically has top-tier character development and worldbuilding. It lacks the higher symbolism and deeper ruminations on the human condition that one would find in the works of the greatest authors, but the storytelling itself is phenomenally enjoyable.

>> No.17109837

>>17109794
>>the sorrows of young werther
holy fucking patrician

>> No.17109851

Steppenwolf
Serial Experiments Lain

>> No.17109859

Everyone who watches anime needs to gtfo from this board

>> No.17109875

>>17109859
i remember my pseud phase too. those were the days

>> No.17109886

>>17109802
Probably my second favorite Goethe work. It obviously made a big impact on Dostoevsky and Hesse and the other great bildungsroman authors.

>>17109837
Thanks

>>17109851
Based. Steppenwolf is my favorite Hesse too

>> No.17109917

The Very Hungry Caterpillar
To LOVE-Ru Darkness

>> No.17109921

SEL wasn't all that good.

>> No.17109929

>>17106443
The idiot
Akira maybe, haven't watched a lot of anime really

>> No.17109967

>>17109851
based

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>>17109859

>> No.17110110

>>17109461

Thanks, I have a few days of vacation coming with nothing to do, I'll check it out.

>> No.17110315

>>17110110
It may be a bit strange to jump into the second season without watching the first, but i think it is worth it.

>> No.17110330

The Bible
Pokemon

>> No.17110440

>>17106443
The Brothers Karamazov
Evangelion

>> No.17110460

>>17107616
Based

>> No.17110482

>>17108810
How anyone could say anything other than Stink Bomb being the worst is beyond me. I think I kind of hate Otomo. He's a delusional anti-American nationalist like Leiji but with the veneer of an auteur.

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>>17106443
>Ham on Rye
>Meitantei Conan

>> No.17110659

The invisible man
Jojos bizarre adventure

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>>17106443
>favorite book

story: "the overcoat" by gogol
novel: "the death of Ivan Ilyich" by tolstoy
romance: "les miserables" by hugo

>favorite anime

short: gundam 0080
medium: nagasarete airantou
long: logh

>> No.17110788

story of the eye
paranoia agent

>> No.17110819

probably Dune
Made In Abyss

>> No.17110845
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>Anatomy of Melancholy
>Serial Experiments Lain

>> No.17110851

>>17110819
Bad book good anime so I guess
—-> /a/

>> No.17110855

The Picture or Dorian Grey
Monogatari

>> No.17110879

Call of the Crocodile by the artist known as F. Gardner.

>> No.17110966
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House of Leaves
Evangelion

They are kind of similar now that I think about it.

>> No.17111015

>>17110879

You can't talk about these books on /lit/ because everyone there is a elitist who only cares about reading "fancy" novels by dead people to show off to their internet friends because they have no real friends.
I read all these books and yes there are some spelling issues, but so what? The story is compelling. It's a fun light read. The perfect christmas gift. I bought copies for all my friends and family. I already gave my dad his.
"Wow that was really good" says Dad Joseph.
"Yeah and there only 99 cents on your Kindle reading device" I retorted.
Dad's eyes blinked.
"Wow I don't believe it" he replied in disbelief. "That's less than, the same price you would pay for a cheeseburger, except you can't enjoy a cheeseburger more times than once like you can with these books"
My mouth laughed at dad's joke and his arms did a hug on me. This series of interconnected books which can be read in any order have the power to make people, laugh and bring families together. Can Shakespeare do that? No.
Like many other people I am eagerly waiting for the movie adaptation which will ensue inevitably. Hey here's a fun thought, what if all of us anons here at the 4chan website did like a fun online twitter campaign to get these books made into a film or a Netflix miniseries lol? Just a fun thought.

>> No.17111033

>>17110855
Based

>> No.17111050

>>17106443
Dorian Gray
Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge
also anime is for retards stop rotting your brain

>> No.17111159

>>17111050
>Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge
extremely patrician

>> No.17111167

Ulysses
Steins gate

>> No.17111190

>>17111167
Good taste

>> No.17111256

Book- Against the Day
Anime- Princess Kaguya or Perfect Blue

Lots of favorite series but they are all pleb tier. Anything by Gainex, MD Geist, Troll Hunter, the old Robot Carnival series that came on SciFi back when it was actually a good channel, The whole studio Gibli catalogue except for Ocean waves, plastic little, Macross, etc. Im an oldfag and not really into anime but I've watched it on and off since you used to have to go to Sam Goody back in the 90s and buy VHS.

And FUCK INUYASHA.

Inuyasha! Inuyasha! Inuyasha!

>> No.17111487

>>17110482
Stink Bomb kinda doesn't go anywhere but Cannon Fodder is unimaginative in my opinion.

>> No.17111537

Book: Book of the Short Sun
Anime film: Tokyo Godfathers/Redline
Anime Series: Samurai Champloo
>>17107616
Satoshi Job is fantastic, Paranoia Agent just got rereleased so I can finally watch it.

>> No.17111564

>>17111537
*Satoshi kon
Sorry, drunk on Christmas cheer and goodwill towards all

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>>17106443
> favorite book
South of the Border, West of the Sun
> favorite anime
Weathering with You

>> No.17111782

>>17111015
Tell Dad joseph I laughed too
>haha

>> No.17112089

East of Eden maybe, not sure if just recency bias
Kaiji, has been a favorite for years

>> No.17112121

Descartes' Meditations
Ghost in the Shell

>> No.17112704

>>17107253
For who would lose,
Though full of pain, this intellectual being,
Those thoughts that wander through eternity?
To perish rather, swallowed up and lost
In the wide womb of uncreated night.

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> favorite book
the passion according to GH
> favorite anime
mushishi

>> No.17112756

>>17110482
Otomo didn't direct Stink Bomb.

>> No.17112932

industrial society and its future
Welcome to the NHK

>> No.17112950

>>17111487
>Cannon Fodder is unimaginative
I understand where you are coming from, but I think that it's a matter of taste rather than of artistic quality. I for one prefer that sort of aestheticization of a mundane, monotonous life (ergo why I also mentioned "The Tartar Steppe" as my favorite book).

t. anon that first mentioned Cannon Fodder ITT

>> No.17112973

>>17106443
The Book of the New Sun
Made in Abyss

>> No.17112985

>>17106443
>Childhood's End / Frankenstein
>Evangelion

>> No.17112989

>>17107625
you = faggot

>> No.17112993

>>17108631
based and jibun wo pilled

>> No.17112995

>>17109859
>anime website
>no anime
u wot m8

>> No.17112997

>>17110819
based

>> No.17113137

>>17109826
I think you are the kind of person, one could have a nice conversation with.
>The NeverEnding Story
>Monster

>> No.17113148

>>17110851
>Bad book good anime so I guess
t. brainlet

>> No.17113152

Lolita
Gunbuster

>> No.17113171

>>17106443
Starship troopers

LoTGH

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>it's a tie between pic related, Texhnolyze and Eva
>Tao Te Ching unironically

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>>17106443
>The Bible
>My Last Day

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nineteenth century greek military history

>> No.17113296

>>17112989
rude

>> No.17113444

>Revolt Against the Modern World
>Anime is for degenerate nonces

>> No.17113449
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>>17106443
notes from underground
oofuri

>> No.17113464

>>favorite book
>
>>favorite anime
>Porco Rosso

>> No.17113474

>>17106443
>favorite book
The Holy Bible
>favorite anime
Saga of Tanya the Evil

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clockwork oranfe
star twinkle precure

>> No.17113537

>>17106443
>Crime and punishment
>Kaiji serie

>> No.17113552

>>17106443
East of Eden and I don't have a favorite anime because I'm not a faggot.

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>coin locker babies by ryu murakami
>ping pong

>> No.17113685

>>17109472
>philosophie der erlösung
wie fandest du's? gibt es irgendwelche passagen die dich besonders geprägt oder beeindruckt haben?

>> No.17113714

>Favorite book
I don’t read
>Favorite Anime
I’m not a pedophile

>> No.17113763
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>>17113678

>> No.17113878

>>17113678
>>17113763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i93vXUKqnI based

>> No.17114243

>>17106443
Novelwise this is really hard: I like Infinite Jest, The Frolic of the Beasts and Absalom, Absalom alot
Anime: Ping Pong the Animation

>> No.17114576

The Stranger

Devilman Crybaby

>> No.17114746

>>17112950
I can respect that, carry on then

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>>17106443
siege
is the order a rabbit?

>> No.17115067
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>Thus Spoke Zarathustra
>Gurren Lagann

spot the connections

>> No.17115152

>>17108810
porco rosso is the best film miyazaki has ever produced, it was his passion project and it really shows

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>having just one favourite book and animeme
Neverending Story, Lord of Light, Futurological Congress, Notes from Underground
Haibane Renmei, Higurashi (VN is better though), Meguca, Kaiji

>> No.17115634

>>17106443
>Anna Karenina
>Black Clover

>> No.17115644

>favorite book
The Turner Diaries
>favorite anime
Black Lagoon

>> No.17115669

Don Quixote
Code Geass

>> No.17115683
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>>17106443
>inferno
>girls' last tour

>> No.17115734

>>17114576
good picks

>> No.17116065

>>17106443
If on a Winter's Night a Traveler
Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG

>> No.17116129

>>17106443
>It's hard to choose just one, lets say Don Quixote
>Samurai Champloo

>> No.17116463

The Turner Diaries
Black Butler

>> No.17117945
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Will /lit/ be watching it?

>> No.17117956

>>17106443
>Iliad
>Jojo Bizzare Adventure

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>>17106443
Eumeswil
Lain

>> No.17118257

>>17106463
why do you like the weakest section of memories? yes, even the section with the farts that could kill was better.

>> No.17118260

>>17117945
eventually, but will it really be this much of a CGI-fest?

>> No.17118321

>>17106443
>The Ego and It's Own
>Monster

>> No.17118374

>>17106443
The Iliad
Fate Zero
>>17106655
>>17107048
Good taste

>> No.17118445

>>17106494
Tell me about the Rosicrucian and Kabbalistic references in Utena.

>> No.17118905

bump

>> No.17119015
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17119015

Do androids dream of electric sheep?
Ghost in the shell

>> No.17119151

I already answered but I forgot about Eccentric Family and it's a great watch for any anon who is a family man

>> No.17120327

>>17109335
Do you happen to be a homosexual?
>>17106443
>Comte De Monte-Cristo
>Pani Poni Dash

>> No.17120389

>>17107664
What the fuck, swap Ergo Proxy for Berserk and you're literally me

>> No.17120402

>>17120389
Nigga I'm reading Berserk right now and it's really good, what a coincidence

>> No.17120415

>Storm of Steel
>Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu

>> No.17120449

>>17106443
>favorite book
blood meridian
>favorite anime
i hate anime 5 centimeters per second

>> No.17120538

>>17106457
based

>> No.17120546

The drawing of the three

Perfect blue

>> No.17120590 [SPOILER] 
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Slaughterhouse-Five
Psychopass

>> No.17120596

>>17106443
>Being and Time
>I dont like anime

>> No.17120607

>Book of Disquiet
>Neon Genesis Evangelion + End of Evangelion

>> No.17120615

On the marble cliffs
The Royal Space force

>> No.17120756

>>17106443
>Middlemarch
>Serial Experiments Lain

>> No.17120782
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>>17106443

The Heart of Darkness
Black Lagoon

>> No.17120872

>>17106443
The Brothers Karamazov
Mawaru Penguindrum

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>>17106443
Flowers of Evil
Flowers of Evil

>> No.17121075

Ficciones
Super Dimension Fortress Macross

>> No.17121130

Kitchen Confidential
Mushishi

>> No.17121203

>>17106443
Gravity & Grace
Baccano!

>> No.17121374

>>17106443
>Petersburg or Gravity's Rainbow
>Welcome to the NHK
>>17112932
Lol I'd say I know you but my friend like this don't go on /lit/
>>17107416
>>17106572
More NHK chads

>> No.17121415

>>17106443
>Lolita
>Gunslinger Girl

>> No.17121436

>>17106555
moot is that you? it's been years please com back, we were blind but now we see.

>> No.17121473

>>17118445

For one, each of the characters has a personality and color scheme directly based on a sephira, so really you’re looking at the sephiroth in interaction.

The primary Rosicrucian allegory is of the alchemical red king and white queen, which are the king of the red rose and the white rose/lily. There are many false brides and false princes/kings, the true King is the messiah which is also the masculinity. The sword is the alchemical symbol for the sun, masculinity, power and the redeeming force.

In my interpretation the reason Utena failed in redeeming all of the characters and she isn’t able to truly solve it all, is that anthy wasn’t the true rose bride (anima Mundi, the human soul, etc) or more specifically, she wasn’t the entirety of it. Rather anthy and Utena are both one human soul trying to redeem itself without the messianic force. This messianic force would have most likely been Touga(who’s virility reflects the Pan myth, the solar phallus in general)

Akio is actually Lucifer, a false messiah, because he promises ascent to all of them, and like the Lucifer pentagram formula in Rosicrucianism has the capacity to show someone the infinity of reality (the end of the world) but hasn’t the power to actually redeem, this is why he tries to bind them and molests them, which is why he is 1=1 with the Devil tarot card.

This is why the only way Utena/anthy are able to attain isn’t redemption but abandonment, a kind of ascetic world-denial. Because she fails as the redemption of the world/anima Mundi, this is why all of the characters in the end repeat their same cycle.

Cycles and repetitions are a key element in the anime because why? The “revolution” is the revolution of the worlds, the planets around the sun, the turning of the wheel of samsara, but also the capacity for genuine change and a breaking of the cycle. Thus she’s the revolutionary girl, who has the power either to change the cycle or repeat it again or to perfect it.

This is most evident in the major battle scenes by the repetition of music and scenes revealing they are in a purely allegorical/mythic place; this is why you have the heavenly castle which is revealed to be nothing but an illusion (the conception of god and heaven being the most major division from heaven; see apophantic mysticism of the likes of Dionysius)

Hell, listen to the music that plays, final apocalypse, references to Swedenborgian mysticism, the motif of the union of opposites is perpetual throughout it along with references to the gnostic deity abrasax which is the union of all opposites.

The “egg” which is spoken of is the world as multiplicity and the soul becomes the deity by integration of these aspects. Each of the sephiroth (rose colored characters) seeks to become the major deity, the union of opposites by attaining the spirit of the world (anthy)

Fundamentally it is a drama of the spirit of the world (anthy)
The spirit of the individual (utena)
CONT

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>>17121473

The spirit of maya, the illusion world (the school and to an extent the castle)
The sephira of intense illumination (juri)
The sephira of eternal passion and desire (kyouichi )
The sephira of solar Beauty (nanami, who both has the proper color and literally becomes a solar bull/cow akin to hathoor)
The sephira of Might, force, dominance and so forth( Touga, considered a veil for Christ as he returns with a sword in his mouth)
The Sephira of elegance, material perfection, expansion and wealth (miki)
The Saturnian devil-demiurge (Akio)
And the hidden messiah as the double/hidden essence of akio and the union of all these (the prince who is the younger Akio)

Note in Rosicrucian and Hebrew Kabbalah, the messiah is the sephira of daat which is ever in perfect Union with Saturn/the creative illusionary principle, it is only when Adam and Eve eat the fruit that daat descends into creation and daat the messiah becomes a void, an abyss which corrupts the saturnine zone into a hellish void, literally Hell in Jacob boehme’s work.

The harmonization of all of these spheres and the descent and return of the messiah is what actually redeems the tree by reforming Daat (by all of the fallen being married) and thus raising back, which is what would have been needed to save anthy/akio.

However, Utena didn’t rescue/correct the internal relations of each of the sephiroth, their internal psycho-spiritual dysfunctions remained. She never purified any of them. By the end of the series because she was only interested in herself and in anthy, and she didn’t seek to benefit the world, she and all else failed and she “escapes” but she escapes as an arahant, a world denier. In asian mysticism mystical paths are called “vehicles” this is why they have those vehicle transformations in the anime. Akio and his red car represent the phallic force, his capacity to tell people he can make them as gods. But he is not the true prince. This is why his sword fails at the end.
all in all it’s a great anime and it’s subtle enough that if you didn’t know about Kabbalah or hermeticism or Rosicrucianism you wouldn’t catch it. But it’s also blatant enough (singing about Swedenborgian mysticism of the union of opposites, talking about abrasax, the whole plot being about the redemptive prince and the Rose marriages.

It’s pretty clear.

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>>17118445

There’s even more elements which breaking down each episode can do, example even something as basic as the chimp pet is a reference to the ape of thoth which is to say, how the natural world through the sounds and confusions hears the words of the savior as if obscured by the howling of a wild and mad ape.

It’s the same reason why in the holy mountain movie the messiah is given a woman and a chimp (except in the holy Mountain, the adept doesn’t fail in his pursuit of redemption. Utena’s the account of a failed adept, holy mountain of a successful one.)

>> No.17121583

warlock
flcl, did magical realism better than 100 years of solitude and yes, it is magical realism and not just scifi

>> No.17121585

>>17106443
War and Peace
Steins;Gate

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>>17118445

If you want to see the full absolute force and origin of Rosicrucian symbolism other than the literal Song of Solomon and various Hebrew/Greek mystical texts, I would recommend reading the Chymical wedding. Was a key Rosicrucian manifesto/novel.

>> No.17121931

The Kalevala
Golden Boy
>>17106443
Where is your pic from?

>> No.17121949

>>17120327
Bingo

>> No.17121963

>>17115644
I’m gonna watch Black Lagoon now just cuz of this post

>> No.17122396

>>17108354
fuck you anon

>> No.17122419

>>17109315
manga counts too anon

>> No.17123036

>>17113208
im watching haibane renmei right now. I really want to enjoy it as much as NGE, and i may be getting filtered, but could you explain what you liked about it most? The circle/ paradox of sin seems interesting.

>> No.17123056

>>17113444
Don't know that anime. Do you have any link?

>> No.17123126

>>17123036
>could you explain what you liked about it most?
The symbolism being fairly obvious or even on the nose sometimes, I was more impressed by the general composition, the way the visual direction and the soundtrack created a truly unique atmosphere that I've never managed to find in any other anime so far.
I guess that's a disappointing answer, but I'm not much of a plotfag. I prefer to just experience shows in terms of atmosphere rather than by analyzing their themes.

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The Once and Future King
Turn A Gundam

>> No.17123671

Infinite Jest
Tatami Galaxy

>> No.17124404

>>17121963
I too started watching black lagoon because of this thread :D I think there's no real plot it's just filler which is sad

>> No.17124428

>>17108134
noiiice Re-L best waifu aside from Pino

>> No.17124446

>A rebours
>Monster

>> No.17124795

>>17121931
>Where is your pic from?
anyone know?

>> No.17124925

>>17121374
Currently planing my future live as an outcast. Gone live alone in the forest, cause otherwise I fear that I would try to attack the system and end up like ted too