/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17102552]

I'm about 2/3 through this chart and I'm already going insane. What's the fucking solution to this?

[Anonymous No.17102570]

This.

[Anonymous No.17102576]

>>17102552
Unironically no way out but suicide. That or decide to LARP as if you never read them and instead go full-blown schizo degenerate participating in the spectacle, knowing that it literally doesn't matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.17102579]

newfag here what's the blindpill

[Anonymous No.17102585]

>>17102552
drinking yourself to death

[Anonymous No.17102761]

>>17102585
That's just nihilism and not a solution at all

[Anonymous No.17102873]

get a job

[Anonymous No.17102978]

insanity is the solution

[Anonymous No.17102984]

what does "blindpill" even mean?

[Anonymous No.17103013]

>>17102873
I already have one. It doesn't help one bit.

[Anonymous No.17103152]

>>17102579
>>17102984
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/154848.Blindpill
>To watch is to submit. As images overrun the world and the language of video & picture editing become second nature to digital natives we, individuals, of the XXI century eel an apparently incurable sense of dread. We wake up to our cellphones, we commute to the sound of commercial music or audiobooks, we work in front of a computer, we spend our free time mindlessly skipping from thread to thread in search of (You)s, we fall asleep to white noise or podcasts. The state of culture and media in our age forces us into a sensory overload, slowly colonizing our time and minds. Where we once had silence, there is noise. Urban landscapes are increasingly dominated by ads and marketing campaigns. Wherever we look there is a product to be sold or a cultural commodity to be bought, unpacked and immediately consumed.

>If such a scenario drenches your hear with a sense of dread and doom. you might susceptible to taking the blackpill and surrender to hopelessness. We offer you and alternative, we offer you the

>BLINDPILL

>The pill will not cure the ailments, it is not supposed to do that. In this day and age there is no straightforward way of shunning the Spectacle. The blindpil will act as a supplement on your immunologic system: by making you reject a nostalgic memory of an idilyc past, it offers you the anti sensory tools to resist contemporary culture,. After taking the blindpill your eyes will be covered by a polarizing filter. It will shut your eyes to the illusory and open them to rhe real-cum-ilusory.

[Anonymous No.17103161]

>>17103013
>get a job where you will be physically exhausted

[Anonymous No.17103165]

>>17102984
Disappointingly it does not mean literature about being or going blind. Would be nice to find stuff similar to Borges poetry he wrote about life after he went blind.

[Anonymous No.17103187]

>>17103165
I remember someone said vision deprivation over a long period of time causes hallucination. that would be a good theme to make some stories

[Anonymous No.17103193]

>>17102552
Ellul has the solution

[Anonymous No.17103205]

It's easy, you become a buddhist monk.

[Anonymous No.17103234]

>>17103193
I'm halfway through The Technological Society and he's not one bit closer to proposing a solution.

[Anonymous No.17103260]

>>17102552
which books specifically have you already read? Because a good chunk of those are quite inaccessible unless you're well-read in philosophy

[Anonymous No.17103293]

>>17102552
Pull an Oedipus. It is called the BLIND pill after all.

[Anonymous No.17103322]

>>17102552
Simply learn to see again. Being aware of things is not the end all be all. Move forward, soldier.

[Anonymous No.17103341]

>>17103260
I'm pretty well versed in philosophy already and had read a few of those books during university, I just hadn't put them together. I still haven't read Capital and The Technological Buff, though.

[Anonymous No.17103353]

[Anonymous No.17103451]

>>17103353
At last, I truly see...

[Anonymous No.17103473]

>>17103353
That's one way of blindpilling yourself though

[Anonymous No.17103683]

>>17102585
>>17102761
"Some people say I got a drinkin' problem, but I got no problem with drinkin'"

[Anonymous No.17103714]

>>17102552
>I'm already going insane
Please explain

[Anonymous No.17103729]

>>17103451
>>17102552
brehs this shit is actually going to make me insane my brain is fragile and i'm already alienated. this is the end, unrecoverable.

[Anonymous No.17103736]

read nietzsche
create your own meaning

[Anonymous No.17103738]

>>17103729
Even 4chan is part of it
There is no escape

[Anonymous No.17103746]

The internet lets us choose what we consume so I would argue mass culture is not as dominant as it was in the age of newsprint or television

[Anonymous No.17103762]

>>17103746
kind of but not really because it is still more homogenous and current internet is very centralised

[Anonymous No.17103788]

>>17102576
LARP as a hero. Be the Overman or take up epicureanism or stoicism. They are all fruitful paths even if it is just playing pretend

[Anonymous No.17103791]

>>17103746
I would say that absolutely used to be true and led directly to occupy etc. But that is no longer the case with centralized control as we see it now

[Anonymous No.17103797]

Pic related

[Anonymous No.17103804]

>>17103746
>The internet lets us choose what we consume

It SEEMS that way, but algorithms tend to feed you what you already like -- or direct you in similar fashion. But, that's only in context with certain social media apparatuses and not generally what you "choose" to seek.

[Anonymous No.17103822]

Prometheus Rising

[Anonymous No.17103936]

>>17102552
If you can't beat em, join em

[Anonymous No.17103964]

>>17103822
This. At least it lets you have fun and enjoy the gamel

[Anonymous No.17103986]

>>17103746
Almost all media is owned by an oligopoly of 6 companies. If they all agree to broadcast the same messages, then there's no escape from their propaganda.

[Anonymous No.17104002]

Have any of you read Lewis Mumford? I see conflicting opinions on him, but he was one of the first big names in this subject.

[Anonymous No.17104037]

>>17102552
here is one attempt at a solution. Spoiler, it mostly failed but its interesting to read about the attempts. This group halfway seriously considered human sacrifice in the 1930's basically just to try and give themselves more courage/intensity

[Anonymous No.17104060]

>>17104037
bunch of larping clown frogs trying to be hard who handed their asses on sliver plates to nazis.

[Anonymous No.17104084]

>>17102552
just become a BwO bro

[Anonymous No.17104154]

>>17103822
>>17103964
Is this like the secret for men

[Anonymous No.17104433]

>>17103788
define "fruitful"

[Anonymous No.17104515]

>>17102552
Read catch-22 when you're done.

[Anonymous No.17104560]

>>17102552
>No McLuhan
Into the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.17104579]

>>17102552
>What's the fucking solution to this?
Accelerating the process, obviously

[Anonymous No.17104587]

>>17104579
>Accelerating the process, obviously
how?

[Anonymous No.17104592]

The solution is to build community locally. To disconnect from the spectacle. To ignore the sublime object of ideology. To point out the simulacra and go back to, at least, the simulation.

Go join your local mutual aid and a book club. New sincerity. Going outside. Helping the people around you. That's how you fight it.

[Anonymous No.17104595]

>>17104587
Consoom and vote libertarian

[Anonymous No.17104612]

>>17103152
Sounds gay, why would I want real cum in my eyes

[Anonymous No.17104632]

>>17104587
Become a content creator who's content is purposely idiotic inducing propaganda. Grow the audience. Lower the IQ of 100,000 people by 2 points.The only thing a pleb like us on 4chan can really do to accelerate anything is to dumb down the population via the spectacle. We don't have the capital to make fundamental structural changes to force the hand through acceleration.

Or go into STEM and do research at MIT.

[Anonymous No.17104637]

>>17104632
I'm thinking about going back to school for my PhD actually but I'm 30

[Anonymous No.17104648]

>>17104637
Are you financially stable enough to do it?
Do you enjoy school?
Can you get into a school that's either best for your situation or known as a good school?
Is the degree "useful" within the neoliberal capitalist hell hole?
Would it make you happy?

[Anonymous No.17104652]

>>17104595
>>17104632
sounds like a defeatist cope and I think it is the political branch of pessimistic philosophy under the veil of ironic schizobabble.

[Anonymous No.17104656]

>>17104648
I wanted to do physics but I know it is useless

[Anonymous No.17104685]

>>17104652
That's why I suggested mutual aid.
>>17104656
If you like physics and want to do a dissertation and miss the community portion of getting an education and can figure out how to financially do it, then go do it. I just spent a lot of time and money to become a lawyer when all I really want to do is public interest. Do your research broski. You got this. I believe in u.

[Anonymous No.17104724]

>>17104656
Study whatever you want, u fucking nigger. Go do physics. As long as you don't become a cop or a nurse you're not useless.

[Anonymous No.17104725]

>>17104652
>sounds like a defeatist cope
literally every book here is >>17102552 "defeatist cope", brainlet

[Anonymous No.17104731]

>>17104724
>or a nurse
Can you explain this one please. I get how cops are useless.

[Anonymous No.17104752]

>>17104592
Only good post in this thread

[Anonymous No.17104762]

>>17104731
Nurses are just past bullies who want to pretend they didn't bully other girls in highschool, they have zero capacity of redemption or self reflection and are just psychopaths who want to feel empowered.

Just like cops are bullies that just kept bullying into adulthood.

[Anonymous No.17104772]

>>17104762
Also they're women who besides trying to bury their past like they never were a horrible person, they don't know what the fuck to do with their lives so, nurse it is.

[Anonymous No.17104778]

>>17104752
Oh yeah? then how about THIS for a good post.
https://youtu.be/TtnfgJrzUNM

[Anonymous No.17104788]

>>17104778
Brah, that was a jam. Reminds me of Air Man ga Taosenai. Love that major rhythm section with a minor melody.

[Anonymous No.17104806]

>>17104788
I think the entire thing is in C sharp minor judging from the main chord but take what i say with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.17104816]

>>17104806
My theory is rusty and never very good. But there's that kinda magical forced emotional feel to a lot of Japanese compositions. The same one that's in like G -> A7 -> F#m -> Bm or whatever the roman numerals of that would be.

[Anonymous No.17104818]

hegel/zizek/mcgowan
we cannot resolve contradiction or deadlock so we must recognize it
when we recognize that everything is contradiction we can begin to understand freedom and how it undermines itself

[Anonymous No.17104832]

>>17104816
V -VI -iv -vii if that's what you mean
but my theory is rusty as well hah and i can't see the notes very well on the screen because of the big ass megaman.

These are bangers as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em4d39L63Hc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggj-WdeCFpY

[Anonymous No.17104838]

>>17104816
Maybe modal interchange for mood change, idk.

[Anonymous No.17104847]

>>17104832
Right!
Those are pretty dope too. Only mega man sound track I ever got really into was 2. That cumbia type percussion in Quickman's theme just makes me want to fuckin' dance.

[Anonymous No.17104876]

>>17104847
>That cumbia type percussion in Quickman's theme just makes me want to fuckin' dance.
Hah never saw it that way until now. It is a pretty salsa-esque rhythm!

If you like 8 bit music i recommend you listen to the Shovel Knight Specter of Torment soundtrack, and this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9szgd_Yvs&list=PLA873DCDCC153AEE8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTtrxKMF3Yc

https://youtu.be/_ZS3WooXpIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGOm15Sp0Qg

And I *mean* 8-bit, not chiptune. These can be played back on an actual NES (given the correct sound chips).

[Anonymous No.17104927]

>>17103152
Commercial music as opposed to what?

[Anonymous No.17104930]

>>17104927
Radio music

[Anonymous No.17104942]

>>17104927
for LARPers: commercial music that I like (indieshit, dadrock, metal, punk, etc.)
actually noncommercial music: classical music but only up to 1950 or so

[Anonymous No.17104952]

>>17104927
I'd assume it's talking about recorded, published music distributed for profit. Before recording technology, music was a one time experience. It was a unique event that happened concurrently with the movement of time and when it stopped it stopped. Part of the pleasure of live music is this instability. There's beauty in it. It's why we learn to play instruments. To recapture the essence of why bards and big bands were so magical. They were cultural events back then, as opposed to commodities now.

[Anonymous No.17104968]

>>17103986
That's genuinely rather alarming.

[Anonymous No.17104981]

>>17104968
Yeah, and you get shit like this https://youtu.be/ksb3KD6DfSI

[Anonymous No.17104988]

I stopped watching the news and browsing everything but /lit/

But my career (software engineer) weds me to this hell
I don't know how to survive

I'm actually having a lovecraftian breakdown

[Anonymous No.17104997]

>>17103986
>no escape
>just walk away from the screen
>close your eyes

[Anonymous No.17105000]

>>17104988
Could I suggest you use your skillset as a software engineer for something useful to your community or for something you enjoy? When I did litigation work for a big firm I woke up every day wanting to kill myself. Ever since I quit that job I've had bad days, but not THAT bad anymore. Maybe you just need to put your skillset to good use and not bullshit?


Also why does the chart not have Bullshit Jobs on it?

[Anonymous No.17105011]

>>17105000
Does it explain how that entire structure works? I know what pencil-pushing jobs are but an economic explanation would be helpful.

[Anonymous No.17105016]

>>17105011
Yes it gets to an explanation as to why the system is like that. The author did a book about 5000 years of debt so his historical analysis along with his observational working definitions really mesh well together to give a good big picture.

[Anonymous No.17105028]

>>17105016
Nice, adding it to my list.

[Anonymous No.17105231]

>>17102552
if you want some more reading here's some recommendations off the top of my head

Fanged Noumena - Nick Land

Reza Negarestani

AJ Ayer

Horkheimer

Marcuse

Ernst Mandel

Marshall McLuhan

Walter Lippmann

Werner Sombart

Anthony Sutton

Philippe Ariès

Allan Bloom

Gramsci

Carroll Quigley

Kissinger

Eric Hoffer

Saul Alinsky

Suicide Note - Heisman

The Conspiracy Against the Human Race - Ligotti

Postmodern Media Culture - Bignell

The Mediatization of Consumption - Jansson

Rise of the Image Culture - Thoman

Mass Media and Popular Culture - Duncan

Media Genres - Wilke

9/11 Culture

Mapping Ideology

Bob Black

The Consumer Society Reader

Complete works of Wittgenstein and Quine

But if you want a solution do this anon said
>>17104592

[Anonymous No.17105538]

>>17104560
based

[Anonymous No.17105543]

>>17104592
no, I hate community.

[Anonymous No.17105554]

>>17102552
Jesus Christ this cringe thread again.

[Anonymous No.17105561]

>>17103193
>>17103234
narrator voice: He does not actually have the solution.

(good books though)

[Anonymous No.17105566]

>>17103746
Now we help psyop ourselves. We tailor the content so that it is most effective.

[Anonymous No.17105891]

>>17102552
is it seething about capitalism? don't read cultural post-marxists, read instead austrian economics

[Anonymous No.17105895]

>>17102552
go outside

[Anonymous No.17105907]

>>17103746
the choices are still gatekept by the industry and they use algorithms/data analysis to maximize engagement. in addition online media is largely concentrated in the hands of a few big websites and centralized

[Anonymous No.17105918]

>>17105554
What's cringe about it?

[Anonymous No.17106013]

>>17105918
>AHHHHHHHHHHH I CAN'T BELIEVE A MASSIVE COMPLEX SOCIETY REQUIRES ALIENATION AND PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE ENACTED THROUGH HIGH TECHNOLOGY AND MASS COMMUNICATION TO KEEP THE WHOLE MOTLEY SHEBANG SOMEWHAT COHERENT IT MUST BE CAPITALISM THAT IS DOING THIS I AM GOING INSANE

[Anonymous No.17106021]

>>17106013
Capitalism and surveillance tech go hand in hand

[Anonymous No.17106030]

>>17106013
but there are certainly worthwhile concerns about that and the effect of too much technology + overload of information, propaganda, advertising, and constant culture overwhelming the senses.

[Anonymous No.17106041]

>>17106013
Filtered. Many of these works are not even anti-capitalist, I bet you haven't even read Ellul.

[Anonymous No.17106094]

>>17106021
Sure but the causation is backwards. 'Capitalism' or whatever we want to call it, is an evolutionary step in a society that allows it to muster more power and control. There are probably other ways of getting there, the former socialist states come to mind, but they seem to have converged along with every one else on a sort of planned/controlled managerial capitalism. Literally any society of comparable size and complexity would likely tend towards the same thing. The spectacle, simulation, the manufacture of consent, the 'depth approach' to manipulating the public and all the rest are simply part and parcel of living in the sort of society we do. The facist, socialists, national socialists, 'free' west all devoured immediately any tech that allowed it to control the population. The alternative would be, from our soft, modern perspective, barbarism.
All talk of 'capitalism' is a red herring. No mere change in the economic configuration is going to get us out of this mess.
Read Ellul.
>>17106030
Yes. I am myself very tech-critical but these threads give a distinct vibe of dudes on LSD staring at their own hands.
>>17106041
I absolutely have read Ellul. Propaganda and The Technological Society. Very good books.
I would add Ortega y Gasset's The Revolt of the Masses to the list, honestly. He is a pearl clutching liberal faggot and I reject his premises wholesale but in that book he points at the right direction of inquiry.

[Anonymous No.17106096]

>>17103234
There isn't one.

[Anonymous No.17106109]

>>17106094
Then you'd see that the blindpill is precisely meant to show how technical progress itself is the culprit of our predicament, not merely capitalism. Sure, some of these books warn again capitalism, but that's because conservacucks are brainlets who think they can maintain both tradition and the current technical trajectory.

[Anonymous No.17106123]

>>17104595
The Libertarian party is barely libertarian.

[Anonymous No.17106148]

>>17106109
The fox news crowd is eviscerated in one sentence of ISaiF, who gives a fuck what they think. Marxists, with exception of Ellul who left Marx at the door when he wrote TTS and Propaganda, are 100% useless and even pernicious regarding these questions.

If you want industry, massively complex systems of production and all the rest, you gotta have manipulation, alienation and everything else. It is the price of admission. Beyond a certain point of power and complexity it is the system itself which does the living and the human beings within it exist only to serve that system. We are trapped in the belly of this horrible machine and the machine is doing pretty fucking fantastic, really, as the fella should have said. This is not going to change under a dictatorship, of the proletariat or otherwise. When it comes to these questions, Marxists only have snake oil, smoke and mirrors.

[Anonymous No.17106170]

>>17104560
>TBF it has Postman who was his prodigy - he mentions McLuhan throughout Amusing

[Anonymous No.17106188]

>>17104587
Pick a frontier of technological development that is actively making the world *worse*, and work in that field. Learn how deep learning works and create facial recognition software. Learn how to build drones. Work at Lockheed Martin and engineer new ways to fulfill Israel's bloodlust.

[Anonymous No.17106266]

>>17106188
Based

[Anonymous No.17106272]

>>17104632
I’m doing AI research at MIT. Every area is over-saturated and individuals don’t make a difference

[Anonymous No.17106322]

>>17105543
Based

[Anonymous No.17106340]

>>17106272
That's just another layer. You must lose yourself into the labs.

[Anonymous No.17106375]

The solution is to accept that there is no solution. You can only control the extent to which you engage with this society. Disconnect and build your own happiness. Limit your screen time, read books, meditate, get really good at a skill, work with your hands. Invest your time into something that will grant you freedom or at least temporary repose from the world. Nothing matters and nothing can be changed except yourself. Optimistic nihilism is your only option. Also, find love.

[Anonymous No.17106554]

>>17106375

[Anonymous No.17106571]

>>17106554
This is literally optimistic nihilism as well.

[Anonymous No.17106585]

>>17103152
Whoever wrote that should never be allowed to type anything ever again. My eyes are bleeding

[Anonymous No.17106617]

>>17103746
There is no mass (shared) culture anymore. I can recall a commercial from 15+ years ago and everyone remembers it. Imagine 15 years from now saying "aha remember that gigachad meme"? Won't happen. In the same way there is so much garbage media that no kids are watching the same shows or reading the same books.

We are individuals in a sense that no one could have even fathomed just 20 years ago. All the better for technique/capital since individuals will be more plastic and amenable it its ends

[Anonymous No.17106650]

>>17103152
>real-cum-ilusory
What mean this seriously

[Anonymous No.17106953]

>>17106585
Shutup nigger

[Anonymous No.17107009]

>>17106650

[Anonymous No.17107031]

>>17106650
Idiot

[Anonymous No.17107076]

>>17106571
>literally literal
>honestly like str8 up 4real

[Anonymous No.17107093]

>>17107076
Seething

[Anonymous No.17107170]

fuck what a black pill to swallow
also I miss free philosopher AI

[Anonymous No.17107241]

>>17107170
Was that all made by an AI? It's not wrong

[Anonymous No.17107254]

what are some good Texas history books? TIA

[Anonymous No.17107288]

>>17107254
uhhh what?

[Anonymous No.17107411]

>>17106013
Critiquing the structuring principle of our society and the phenomena that arise from those principles means critiquing capitalism. What’s happening in many of those books is people teasing out just how it is that alienation and ‘psychological warfare’ came to be in the first place, and what their function is. Many of them convincingly ground those phenomena in capitalism. They don’t just say “it must be capitalism!” They demonstrate why they think so (if they even think so at all, which not all of those theorists do). You can remain unconvinced, but if they were just making bland assertions, they wouldn’t have written books at all.

[Anonymous No.17107498]

I'm going insane

[Anonymous No.17107544]

>>17104652
that's a heck lot of words you used there to say nothing

[Anonymous No.17107875]

>>17107241
yup, philosopherai. Now it's pay per play and fucking expensive but this summer it was free and popular here on /lit/, it was so good it's kinda scary.
>pic related

[Anonymous No.17108029]

>>17107875
>it's pay per play
Fucking assholes.

[Anonymous No.17108128]

>>17107875
>>17108029
>NOOOOOO now I can't feed the algorithm data for free!

[Anonymous No.17108504]

>>17108128
Now you have to pay to do it, what's not to complain?

[Anonymous No.17108578]

>>17108504
The worst thing is there probably is a non-insignificant number of bugmen out there who are willing to actually pay to feed an algorithm data.

[Anonymous No.17109255]

>>17104560
this, also
>no Encyclopédie des nuisances
>no Galkovsky
>memeleuze
>memejek
>memes
pffffhahaha
plebs

[Anonymous No.17109400]

>>17104433
You will commit suicide and return to this plane of existence when you are reincarnated. The Stoic Overmen will transcend this world and escape

[Anonymous No.17109434]

>>17106585
fag

[Anonymous No.17109482]

>>17104632
This may actually be the key. If people are too dumb to understand things, they can't be manipulated. This means that they revert to their instincts to tell them what to do. To pursue this course of action means that we trust that people's basest instincts will allow us all to escape from the matrix

[Anonymous No.17109514]

>>17103260
Which?

[Anonymous No.17109535]

>>17109482
Wait so the racemixing propaganda created to lower down the general IQ was actually an attempt to free us instead of controllling us? The jews are actually the good guys?

[Anonymous No.17109589]

https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/10/20/the-anti-reactionary-faq/
What do you guys think of his defense of the technological age? You can skip to section 1. It was written to counter neoreactionaries but the arguments he makes are relevant here as well.

[Anonymous No.17109606]

>>17106013
based as fuck, the real solution turned out to be ignorance and denial all along

[Anonymous No.17109613]

>>17109535
Racemixing propaganda doesn't lower IQ, it attacks the instinct directly and tries to deconstruct and critique thereby inducing cognitive dissonance; It can never completely destroy racial instinct, at least that's the hope. If not, we're fucked. Obviously, inducing that cognitive dissonance can lower IQ as a secondary effect due to the puzzle pieces of reality not lining up correctly due to fake puzzle pieces added to the mix.

[Anonymous No.17109628]

>>17109535
Racemixing propaganda doesn't lower IQ, it attacks the instinct directly and tries to deconstruct and critique thereby inducing cognitive dissonance; It can never completely destroy racial instinct, at least that's the hope. If not, we're fucked. Obviously, inducing that cognitive dissonance can lower IQ as a secondary effect due to the puzzle pieces of reality not lining up correctly due to fake puzzle pieces added to the mix. The fake puzzles pieces are the ones that dissolve when IQ is low enough

[Anonymous No.17109644]

>>17103152
Oh, this looks like some of the self harm garbage ideas my boy Friedrich warned me about

[Anonymous No.17109674]

>>17109644
Nietzsche was a total modernity hater. Just check out this poem from The Gay Science:


Against the Laws

>Suspended by a hair, the clock
>As of today hangs round my neck:
>As of today, the stars; the sun,
>Cockcrow and shadows are all done;
>Whatever used to tell the time
>Is mute and deaf and blind, and I
>Find nature silent as a rock
>At the ticktock of law and clock.

[Anonymous No.17109692]

>>17102552
The Christian faith and fascism brother

[Anonymous No.17109734]

>>17109692
>fascism
lol gtfo

[Anonymous No.17109763]

>>17109535
>>17109628
IQ/prefrontal cortex is all about inhibition of certain instincts and expression of others. Above a certain IQ new abstractions can be created based on the instincts and observed reality, below a certain IQ instinct are expressed freely with no inhibition. In the middle of the bell curve exists lukewarm smooth brain normie masses which have enough abstractive capability that they can be manipulated to construct semisolid abstractions which inhibit basic instincts according to the manipulators desire. This is where the bell curve meme with low IQ and high IQ agreeing with each other while the majority in the middle are $0¥ brained consoomers comes from.

[Anonymous No.17109784]

>>17109763
BS, impulsiveness and procrastination don't correlate with IQ

[Anonymous No.17109795]

>>17109763
but I do thing the high iq = low iq meme format is mostly right and your explanation of it too, just your explanation of iq and cognitive processes is garbage

[Anonymous No.17109863]

>>17105891
It's the same old retarded shit, seething commies panicing that we must destroy muh capitalism because it's not going to destroy itself(even though they still latch on to that retarded rate of TRPF bullshit meme theory). Seriously, these niggers need to read fucking Bawerk

[Anonymous No.17109871]

>>17109863
>Bawerk
lol

[Anonymous No.17111049]

>>17102552
stop being retarded

[Anonymous No.17111273]

>>17111049
t. reddit.

[Anonymous No.17112220]

>>17111049
dont be a slave to capital

[Anonymous No.17112233]

we are in the matrix
the matrix is controlled by capital
technological singularity is upon us with virtual reality, video games, and the line between media, internet, and real blurring
its all ran by business. they shape our thoughts perceptions desires ideas personalities and dreams. they know us better than we know ourselves with their sophisticated big data profiling market research departments analyzing your web history with algorithms. capitalism has merged with big tech. you are already in the shit. we cannot escape it without smashing our tech.

[Anonymous No.17112346]

>>17112233
sounds lit

[Anonymous No.17113067]

should i just push through it if Society of the Spectacle is a bit too hard to understand?

t. haven't read more than 3 philosophy books

[Anonymous No.17113115]

>>17113067
just read it slow and try to contemplate on whats being said

[Anonymous No.17113282]

>>17113067
If you're having a hard time read the "Comments on the Society of Spectacle" first. It's also by Debord.

[Anonymous No.17113432]

>>17109514
I'd assume heidegger, adorno, jameson and d&g are quite inaccessible for people who usually don't read that type of stuff
baudrillard and marx are also not easy to tackle but you probably don't have to have read a whole lot beforehand

[Anonymous No.17113721]

>>17109482
>d things, they can't be manipulated. This means that they revert to their instincts to tell them what to do. To pursue this course of action means that we trust that people's basest instincts will allow us all to escape from the matrix

Literally the plot of psychopolitics

[Anonymous No.17113750]

>>17105561
read more Ellul

[Anonymous No.17113975]

take the marxist leninist pill

>It is precisely this culture, coated with a glossy veneer, accompanied by sensational advertisement, handled in the most commercial way and back up and financed by the bourgeoisie, that inundates the cinema and television screens, magazines, newspapers and radio broadcasts, all the mass information and propaganda media. Its objective is to turn the ordinary man into a passive consumer of poisonous bourgeois ideas, and to make this consumption an addiction. Not only have we nothing to learn from this culture, no reason to impart it to our masses and youth, but we must reject it contemptuously and fight it with determinism. - Enver Hoxha

[Anonymous No.17114514]

>>17113432
adorno's culture industry essay shouldnt be that hard to get into

[Anonymous No.17114522]

>>17113975
more like the LARP pill

[Anonymous No.17114535]

>>17114514
the rest of DoE though you probably need some background in philosophy

[Anonymous No.17114559]

>>17102552
Go to the Mountains and forests anon. Sleep on the ground. Feed the wildlife. Heal your soul.

[Anonymous No.17114588]

>>17113975
he's right desu

[Anonymous No.17114928]

>>17114588
That's a pretty cringe take. Even so called socialists are completely onboard with capitalist desire and products.

[Anonymous No.17114981]

>>17113750
Tell me where he details a solution.

[Anonymous No.17115005]

>>17113975
Barring the fact that nearly all socialist regimes ended up being a speedrun for more primitive societies to reach technical-managerial capitalism, the notion that socialist regimes do not equally rely on propaganda and any other form of psychological warfare to keep the masses in formation is laughable.

[Anonymous No.17115064]

>>17102552
WHAT ORDER SHOULD I READ THESE BOOKS IN?

[Anonymous No.17115080]

>>17115064
Just start with the Society of Spectacle and the read The Technological Society by Ellul.

[Anonymous No.17115087]

>>17113975
true, shame the only thing they thought to replace it with was hamfisted propaganda about happy workers and bumper harvests

[Anonymous No.17115161]

>>17102552
Become neoliberist

[Anonymous No.17115187]

>>17109763
I know where you fit on the curve

[Anonymous No.17115249]

>>17102552
>culture of narcissism
keep reading lasch, his solution is a return to traditional moral values of the 19th century bourgeois. keep things rural, communal. renounce the right to be happy and happiness comes to you by slow degrees and by pursuing the traditional lifepath of having a large family and looking after yourself and your direct neighbors. plain living, high thinking. exercise, if buying a treadmill and freeweights is too bourgeois for you, start a garden.

[Anonymous No.17115263]

The virgin awoken vs the chad 'East Timor? Is that like by Newfoundland or something?'

[Anonymous No.17115266]

>>17103152
Don't need cum in my eyes.

[Anonymous No.17115277]

>>17104587
Cut your dick off.

[Anonymous No.17115348]

>>17106148
give it a few decades and a bit more technology making data more accessible for the masses and we could achieve a literal utopia (in the sense of we would have both industry, good healthcar and all the rest, but without the manipulation alienation etc)

i'm serious, all it takes is for a few technocrats to work towards it

[Anonymous No.17115368]

>>17115348
Based optimist, I really hope it happens

[Anonymous No.17115389]

>>17115348
Ah, the old "coming salvation" myth, nice to see that one updated.

[Anonymous No.17115479]

>>17115389
i'm not very optimist, but i'm saying that it is possible for things to get much better, that we have the means. modern society is a system that grew because its parts operated on inmediate incentives without thinking consequences in the bigger picture or in the long term, but with any such system when it grows enough you can imagine that it will reach a point where the individual parts get a simplified understanding of the whole and the problems with it, and start operating with long-term and big-picture goals instead

[Anonymous No.17115495]

write a novel and never show it to anyone, don't read anything written in the last hundred years ever again, go for jogs, play the piano

[Anonymous No.17115507]

>>17115495
>don't read anything written in the last hundred years ever again
hmmm I wonder when these >>17102552 books were made

[Anonymous No.17115519]

>>17115064
Well, If I were to suggest an order it would be
>amusing ourselves to death (very easy intro)
>manufacturing consent (the analytical version of the previous book)
>bullshit jobs (not on the list, but we have all had one and its a great intro into modern capital structure on the individual level to get you into the ideas of why everything is wrong)
>Capitalist realism (short and easy to understand
>society of the spectacle (kind of "complicated" but with enough reflection it's gets easier to understand)
>Simulacra and simulation (word salad but not as hard to follow as a zizek thesis)
>take a break and read brave new world (highschool level shit)
>infinite jest (I only got a third of the way through, I'll finish it later)
>Plague of fantasies (haven't read it but have read sublime object, zizek is based but it takes a while to synthesize a thesis, as he writes many little essays that have through lines)
>i'd avoid reading thousand plateaus (what the actual fuck i am too midwit for this)
>One day I'll get around to kapital

The rest I haven't read. Another book not on this list that I don't understand why it isn't is The Age of Surveillance Capitalism

We really need a new chart with a better explanation of what each book brings to the thesis of the blind pill. A framework would be nice rather than the one chart a dude made a while ago. We are in a constant state of becoming, and so should the chart.

[Anonymous No.17115557]

>>17115519
I regret recommend my mother's friend to read McLuhan when she asked me for an intro book. It was before I started reading it and I realized it's probably way too much to start with.

[Anonymous No.17115692]

>>17115557
Mcluhan assumes you’ve read the western cannon and doesn’t hold your hand. I have a few of his books and they are almost nonsense but you know he has a point when you see some of his speeches.

My mom talked with his son when she did her masters thesis in tech com. Neat stuff.

[Anonymous No.17115772]

>>17109535
Race mixing creates rootless, identityless, atomized people which are far easier to control. It’s not so much about muh IQ

[Anonymous No.17115789]

>>17115692
I think I've talked with you before. McLuhan's style is like the kind you often see with French writers who don't write very sequentially, but harp on a similar abstract thing over the course of a work so that by the time you finish it you have a pretty good idea of what he means. Tricky at first but when you identify it, it's not bad.

[Anonymous No.17115880]

>>17115772
Stupid take, I've never met a South American who was rootless or atomized

[Anonymous No.17116414]

>>17103986
Comcast = C (obvious)
Newscorp = O (round, O-like symbol)
Viacom = V (obvious)
CBS = I (logogram eye = I)
Disney = D (obvious)
Time Warner became Spectrum = S, the 19th letter of the alphabet (a stretch?)

What does it mean, bros?

[Anonymous No.17116702]

>>17116414
That their propaganda campaign over the past eight decades to legitimize conspiratorial thinking in ever facet of hour daily life has worked.