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17085470 No.17085470 [Reply] [Original]

You can't learn to write, it's not a trainable skill, you're either born with it or you aren't.

>> No.17085474

>>17085470
clearly you weren't born with it OP

>> No.17085478

>>17085470
I used to be able to and I lost it

>> No.17085484

So if i have no discernible talent it's over?

>> No.17085501

>>17085478
where did you last see it? hope it wasn't with Tyrone

>> No.17085507

I was born with it.

>> No.17085542

>>17085501
i lost it when i started trying

>> No.17085769

It’s not trainable, but it needs practice like any other craft

>> No.17085805

>>17085470
Neetcheese said something similar. You would think that literary professors and philologists can write timeless works but, despite their training, the majority are inconsequential in the history of art.

>> No.17085812

>>17085474
>He didn't write sonnets at age 4

Thou shant mak'st it

>> No.17086009
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HAY TRES FACTORES IMPLICADOS EN TODA ARTE, Y EN TODA CIENCIA: TALENTO, DESTREZA, ESTILO; PARA TENER BUEN ESTILO ES NECESARIA LA DESTREZA; LA GENUINA DESTREZA REQUIERE TALENTO.

CON EL TALENTO SE NACE; CON EL DESARROLLO DE LA DESTREZA SE PERFECCIONA EL TALENTO; CON TALENTOSA DESTREZA SE FORMA EL ESTILO.

DESTREZA SIN TALENTO ES INGENIO SIN GENIO, Y MANERA SIN ESTILO.

>> No.17086020

I unironically believe there's a lot of good writers that could be unlocked by creative writing courses

>> No.17086028

>>17085470
What language did you write in as a baby???

>> No.17086073

>>17085484
I am a huge proponent of the talent theory but i would never say it is over. Sure, maybe you’ll never be a great artist with words but if you keep at it you will be able to write acceptably. Mediocre is ok if you have good ideas. And what’s most important is that you enjoy what you’re doing. You are enjoying what you’re doing, right?

>> No.17086264

>>17086020
Idk any good ones but I think so too

>> No.17086290

>>17085812
To think Alexander Pope's father made him write in verse as child until he was pleased. They don't make them like they used to.

>> No.17086300

>>17086020
kek, imagine thinking a 20th ce cash grab would provide literary excellence.

>> No.17086417

>>17085470
>>17086073
>>17085769
Strong disagree from my experience in a literary journal in university.
If you mean, "You can't learn to write [the next great American/whatever novel]," then that's right.
But I've seen so much improvement by writers who start out as utterly crap writers. Anyone can absolutely reach a good-enough level of writing quality that works for journalistic articles or business communication, and that's a low bar.

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17086791

but you can learn to actually do the physical act of writing. Both in the sense of using a pen on paper, and in the sense of allocating time to doing writing. The latter is a skill I have not trained, and because of this, I continue to not write anything even though I have excellent innate ability to 'write' in the sense which you mean.

>> No.17086825

>>17086791
>I continue to not write anything even though I have excellent innate ability to 'write' in the sense which you mean.
Also known as the Dunning-Kruger effect.

>> No.17086973

>>17086825
The screen was burning into his eyes. He just couldn't look away. Three seconds was all it took, from hitting the 'Update' button, to realizing he had been assaulted. His very dignity, crumpled up and thrown in a compactor. And then two American academics waddled up clutching their britches, let drop their leg-garments and undergarments, and... God, it's too much to even recall. But it had to be processed. Just like the grains and dairy and dietary fiber had been processed into those barely-solid brown clumps that slid out the American's cheeks. They'd fucking shat on the pile of scraps that was anon's crushed dignity; just walked up from the bagel shop around the corner and shat on it.

Or at least that's what anon saw in those seven foul words. The green-colored words above served only to reinforce to him that Dunning and Kruger had dumped their Ph.D. certified defecation on his meekly offered ticket into the literature club for good reason. Sure, one of the pair was merely a University of Michigan professor, but surely Michigan is a state which ensures its professors know their shit. And so it seemed, from the steamy pile Dunning had dumped on anon's derelict dreams of ever producing some opus.

But anon could not just sit here all day. Even if the tennis ball that was his already minuscule motivation had just been blasted open with buckshot, he still had some fire in him. And just the right kind of fire to retaliate: the spicy-sauced, meat-bulked...

>> No.17087015

>>17086009
Kys

>> No.17087017

>>17086973
...meat-bulked, sour cream shit of a burrito-bario brigadier, ready to let loose the pounds of pour that would encase that green-texting son of a bitch so hard he'd fossilize and be rediscovered only after a nuclear blast had cleared away the strategically-valuable city around him. But he wouldn't be the same snarky SOB. No, he'd live every day appreciating that he got away with only a permanent stink that pervades his very being, leaking out his mouth and stinging his nose again and again each waking second. Oh yeah, he'd fucking wish he never drew guard duty that day, but he'd be grateful still that he'd finally been learnt his lesson.

>> No.17087030

>>17085470
Matthew?

>> No.17087073

>>17087030
It’s him.