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>/science-fiction and fantasy general/
Choice of magic edition
Book 4 is out!

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:04:52 2020 No.17085062 clack, clack, clack

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:05:54 2020 No.17085070 It took me until Rhythm of War to realize that Sanderson is a hack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:07:42 2020 No.17085076 150 pages into this novel and I realized that the author is female

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:13:16 2020 No.17085128 >>17085076 Please STOP assuming someone's gender.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:37:18 2020 No.17085298 Drump killed fantasy. There hasnt been a single great fantasy for at least 3 years and a lot of formerly decent series became crap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:40:42 2020 No.17085319 >>17085298 Just wait until woke politics and gender identity start making their way into fantasy. You have no idea how bad things will go.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:45:19 2020 No.17085349

>>17066229
They had a web API that you could use to retrieve book info and manipulate your profile (read, lists, etc). You needed to sign up for a free developer key to use it. I started playing with it two or three years ago. It ended up being the easiest and most reliable way I found to automate checking if a book was part of a series and if so what the other books were. Other more standard databases (MARC21 style) I tried were weak specifically for this. Maybe I don't understand the format properly but it was difficult to retrieve the series type info I wanted and didn't seem that I got consistently accurate results. Probably I just didn't have access to a really up to date database.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:49:58 2020 No.17085391 >>17085319 i've already largely stopped reading books published after ~2015 with very few exceptions, i can't imagine this policy will ever change, just be more reinforced as obviously correct.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:50:16 2020 No.17085397 File: 55 KB, 286x475, 1692479.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I. Be reading. TekWar?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:52:05 2020 No.17085413 >>17085397 It was ghost written, if that affects your opinion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:52:37 2020 No.17085417 >>17085413 Ghosts aren't real, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:53:35 2020 No.17085423 >>17065135 Emphyrio

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:55:15 2020 No.17085436 File: 262 KB, 500x423, 73eef05c35e3b3ccd31741cb9b52c157.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17085417 Look behind you, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:03:01 2020 No.17085502 >>17085076 >not knowing on the first page

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:23:29 2020 No.17085664 >>17076435 You can't just keep posting the same space cat

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:26:04 2020 No.17085684 File: 747 KB, 480x270, A68B6611-6037-46CA-89D4-93B88CDFCD73.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17085053 This thread belongs to Sandersonchads

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:27:41 2020 No.17085698 >starting a new thread before the old one is at post limit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:30:46 2020 No.17085731 >>17085391 Read John C Wright out of spite

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:33:00 2020 No.17085745

>Reading Stormlight Archive.
>Finish 4th book.
>Understand that he's now on Full World Hopping and Cosmere character mode.
>Can't reasonably understand what's going on without reading virtually everything else Sanderson wrote before.
>Sanderson shills will tell me I don't need to.
>Literally worse than buying a video game with DLC day one.

Why am I being charged so much for only half the story?

How is this ok?

I genuinely and unironically feel like I'm being scammed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:33:38 2020 No.17085748 >>17085698 better than no bread at all desoo

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:33:47 2020 No.17085751 >>17079394 Rereading Home to Avalon because it was in a pile and I am afflicted with a laziness so debilitating I can't even work my brain long enough to remember where all my books are

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:34:14 2020 No.17085753 Stormlight is good!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:35:16 2020 No.17085759 >>17085658 >Shallan's humor >Lift's dialogue >Not YA Lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:36:19 2020 No.17085767 >>17085753 >Stormlight >Voidlight >Lifelight >Towerlight That's the most original idea I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:37:30 2020 No.17085774 >>17085759 Cope, seethe, Shallan is my cute schizophrenic girlfriend

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:40:00 2020 No.17085796 >>17085774 >Cope, seethe, Shallan is my cute schizophrenic girlfriend This is how I know you're 16. Which is exactly why you enjoy Shallan so much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:41:33 2020 No.17085807 >>17085796 Shallan is good but for me it’s Dalinar and Moash chapters

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:02:07 2020 No.17085944 >>17080027 t. minecraft

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:05:39 2020 No.17085970 >>17080791 >i don't enjoy cj cherryh's stuff, too much focus on the forced romance What?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:06:54 2020 No.17085977 File: 243 KB, 680x709, q.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17085658 >do you actually think he intends for 12-16 year-old's to read thousands of pages of fantasy novels?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:10:51 2020 No.17086005 [DELETED]

go into goodreads and type two words and show the results

"dragon" "empire"
>Dragon Unleashed (Fallen Empire, #2) 4.04
>The Masked Empire (Dragon Age, #4) 3.95
>The Dragon Engine (The Blood Dragon Empire, #1) 3.26
>Ark (Dragon Empire, #1) 3.48
>Dragon Empire 4.36
>The Dragon Men (Clockwork Empire, #3) 3.90
>The Dragon Empire 3.73
>The Dragon's Empire 3.88
>Dragonia: Revenge of the Dragons (Dragonia Empire, #2) 4.49
>Rebirth of the Prime Dragon Master 19: The Emperor Of The Holy Dragon Empire Had Disappeared 4.52
>Empire of Dragons 3.77

there are 5 more pages of results

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:11:01 2020 No.17086006 >>17085658 I know he does because I was that age when started reading fantasy with Sanderson as the gateway

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:11:06 2020 No.17086008

>>17078203
I don't mind female writers, but a schlocky female writer will gravitate to certain themes and a schlocky male others. It happens that the male themes resonate with me, so it is easier to ignore the poor writing. Good writers of either gender are good, but uncommon, resulting in a perceived preponderance of readable males.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:13:04 2020 No.17086022

>>17080027

god damn, my interest in this idea lasted a mere four fucking hours before my brain crashed again

what the fuck is wrong with me?

>>17085684
>shit on reddit for being obsessed with sanderson
>while obsessing over sanderson even harder

good ol' /sffg/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:13:33 2020 No.17086025 >>17085767 you forgot warlight ya dip

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:14:50 2020 No.17086038 >>17086008 this is the only good post ever written on the subject

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:22:15 2020 No.17086093 I’m eternally disappointed that robin hobb didn’t go all in and make fitz and the fool gay lovers so that she could have her weird romance with that one chick whose name escapes me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:25:52 2020 No.17086115 >>17086025 joke's on you, I dropped the book soon after. I didn't even make it to that part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:32:21 2020 No.17086161 >>17086115 I'm just helping you shit on sanderson more integrally

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:35:21 2020 No.17086183

Does anyone know of any SFF where the protagonist is an already rich/powerful person? A bit like Vorkosigan.
There is also Christian Camerons Alexander book from the POV of Ptolemy who was the richest man in Macedonia after the King. There is something so satisfying and interesting about a protag character who is fairly secure in their status and can tell other important people to fuck off because they are protected by their wealth/status.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:44:26 2020 No.17086244 chinkshit but with brother-sister romance

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:56:27 2020 No.17086322 Bros, I can't cope with the fact that Sandorson made me invest so much time into his books. What do I do? I'm genuinely pissed off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:00:52 2020 No.17086345 >>17086322 Learn your lesson and move on. Stephen King, Robert Jordan and Gurm all did this to me before I stopped gambling and only read series that were finished or low effort.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:21:01 2020 No.17086468 File: 69 KB, 614x614, giphy (2).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17085053 https://www.deviantart.com/uthp/journal/The-Legend-of-Twilight-Zelda-Princess-part-I-348420007

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:23:52 2020 No.17086487 >>17086345 >still reading series You're like a little baby, come back when you've gotten to the point of only reading the first book of a series then wikidiving the rest

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:25:45 2020 No.17086505 >>17086487 There has to be a "the rest" before you can wikidive it. At least without an accomplice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:31:09 2020 No.17086544 File: 24 KB, 800x450, Based_Department_Thumbnail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just finished a fantasy book and this popped up on my phone What did I just read?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:37:07 2020 No.17086596 >>17086544 Trick question; you only read 50 pages max, then you put the book down and proceeded to do something else entirely with the rest of your day

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:38:54 2020 No.17086613 >>17086322 Read the wiki to understand what happened

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:55:23 2020 No.17086738 >>17086544 Harry Potter illustrated edition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 18:56:22 2020 No.17086743 >>17086544 Desolate Era

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:07:29 2020 No.17086823 >Author's books contain only filler until the last chapter/s Which authors do this? So that I can completely avoid them from now on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:23:18 2020 No.17086910 >>17085745 Why are you reading sanderson?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:29:25 2020 No.17086941 >>17086910 That's a very good question. >>17085745 Sanderson is creating a colossal problem for himself moving forward because of the amount of comere characters/stories. Everything feels convoluted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:29:59 2020 No.17086943 >>17086941 still not 1/4 of the complexity of ASoIaF

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:31:56 2020 No.17086951 >>17086943 That's irrelevant because the cosmere is shit to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:36:26 2020 No.17086966 File: 41 KB, 564x563, 4a1608444798424.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who is /sffg/'s favorite female protagonist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:36:41 2020 No.17086969 >>17086951 That's irrelevant because shut up your fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:37:17 2020 No.17086971 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKlVhzisNoU This is unironically the only non woke RoW review.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:39:01 2020 No.17086982 >>17086969 You need to be over 18 to post here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:40:02 2020 No.17086986 >>17086966 Your mother

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:41:20 2020 No.17086996 >>17086966 Baru Cormorant

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:42:58 2020 No.17087005 >>17086982 It's honestly pathetic that I'm here given how old I actually am

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:43:41 2020 No.17087011 >>17087005 how old are you, bro?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:43:53 2020 No.17087013 >>17087005 There's nothing wrong with being mentally hill. You should ready Rhythm of War.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:44:08 2020 No.17087016 >>17086966 Ariane Emory the 1st Blackmails and rapes her shota of choice, mindbreaks her own clone from beyond the grave, etc

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:44:11 2020 No.17087019 >>17087011 39, obese, single, alcoholic

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:46:25 2020 No.17087032 >>17087019 >obese The word "American" would have sufficed but Ok.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:48:36 2020 No.17087040 >>17087005 It's not there is any other plausible internet hangout. 4chan is the last great agora.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:49:17 2020 No.17087046 >>17086966 Tenar in Earthsea Serwa in the Second Apocalypse Natasha in The Master and Margarita

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:51:47 2020 No.17087061

>>17087040
>4chan is the last great agora.
It truly is, is it not?

There's literally no other place around where I can be vocal about how shitty most mainstream writers are.

Why are modern writers so shit at dialogue and character development? Is it because they are helpless introverts?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:53:58 2020 No.17087079
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Has le heckin' grimdark run its course? Can ANYTHING be grimdark after Bakker? Does Sanderhack represent a return to noblebright, high heroic fantasy? Where is Fantasy going, /sffg/?

I'm asking because I'm starting to write a series and I want it to feel fresh and original.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:58:02 2020 No.17087106 [DELETED]

>>17087061
that's the only redeeming quality of 4chan. the simple fact that you can be toxic.

otherwise this is a shithole full of bait, awful teenager opinions, cancerous /pol/ shit and an inexplicable obsession with reddit. everyone is also insecure as fuck and even the most banal fo disagreements turn into mutual attacks at the other person's intelligence and/or masculinity.

almost nothing of value gets said here, but being able to say "sanderson is a hack" in all impunity makes it all worthwhile I think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:58:59 2020 No.17087116 File: 200 KB, 848x1200, 6A40D0CB-E383-459C-8A40-C2852FBE7513.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CANT TAKE MY EYES OFF YOU

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:59:40 2020 No.17087118 >>17087106 >being able to say "sanderson is a hack" >not saying "sanderhack a shit" ngmi

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:02:02 2020 No.17087124

>>17087106
The problem with Reddit type like websites (even assuming that you are using a throwaway) is that you will always end up with an echo chamber circle jerking community in the long run. Up-votes and Down-votes are also cancer.

You will always have the occasional troll here, but you'll spot that out easily if you're not new.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:02:59 2020 No.17087131 >>17087106 I hope that last statement is sarcasm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:03:42 2020 No.17087139 File: 41 KB, 888x540, 4a_dangaizer_1608546847147.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SANDERSHIT AND DISCUSS WAIFUS

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:04:02 2020 No.17087143 >>17087124 >thinking 4chan isn't a circle jerking echo chamber wew

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:05:51 2020 No.17087153 >>17087143 4chan is a glory-hole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:09:12 2020 No.17087172 >>17087139 Good idea. For me it’s Lyn, Syl, Vin, and most of all Shallan

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:09:40 2020 No.17087175 >>17087143 Daily reminder that 4chan is not /pol/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:10:01 2020 No.17087176 >>17087079 based self-publisher Michael R. Fletcher writes grimdark as well as Bakker. Grab Manifest Delusions series its only 2 books

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:10:34 2020 No.17087180 >>17087175 /sffg/ is a circle jerking echo chamber.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:10:56 2020 No.17087181 >>17087139 The only reason I'm speaking about Sanderson is because I thought that Oathbringer was a hit and miss and now I'm fucking pissed that I've bought another one. Motherfucker made me read 1000 pages of nothing and I'm pissed.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:11:05 2020 No.17087182 [DELETED]

>>17087124
it might actually be a great place, without the fucking karma system. most 4chan boards are basically groundhog's day. I can see posts on /g/ that are the exact same as they were in fucking 2011, verbatim. the only thing that changes every other year is the lexicon (eg fag turning into cuck turning into pozzed/simp/whatever I just can't fucking keep up anymore)

trolls add nothing of value and the place would be better if they were physically removed so to speak

>>17087131
it absolutely is not

>>17087143
contradicting board culture is possible, at least. you don't get buried for being even a little bit negative

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:12:11 2020 No.17087191 >>17087143 Tell me fiend, outside of Parliament, what is not an echo chamber? >inb4 universities

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:12:19 2020 No.17087193 >>17087172 >you will never have a qt tinker bell following you around and acting like your spiritual guide why live

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:12:27 2020 No.17087195 >>17087032 Nice try, chinky.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:13:21 2020 No.17087200 >>17087175 in 2015 4chan became /pol/

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:14:40 2020 No.17087210

>>17085070
The funny thing is I'm seeing this kind of reaction all over the place. Here, goodreads, reddit, SFFG based discords. At best the reviews are "yeah it's pretty good, but 300-400 pages too long". And people have fully wizened up to his writing methods of not a whole lot happening in the center 80% and are just getting bored with it.

I have a feeling book 5 of SA will be his last 1,000+ book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:14:44 2020 No.17087213 >>17087175 Back to your containment board >>>/lgbt/

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:16:54 2020 No.17087229

>>17087200
There are external reasons for that. Wokenism has taken over everything. It's only natural that 4chan would be the place for a "counter-culture" to originate.

I don't even like Trump, or Biden for that matter, I'm not an American so I couldn't care less. But if you go on Reddit, there's a disease in those people's minds. It's fucking pathological the amount of anti-trump posts you see.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:19:33 2020 No.17087241

>>17087210
>Imagine writing 1200 page books
>Now imagine not writing about anything for the first 800 pages
>NOW IMAGINE dumping every Cosmere character in the middle of the PLOT

It's only downhill from here and I'm going to enjoy every little bit of this big mess he created.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:21:59 2020 No.17087260 >>17087210 His most annoying thing is this "bigger is better mentality". He could have fucking written amazing books after WoK and WoR but he fucked it up somehow.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:24:33 2020 No.17087272

>>17087229
>It's fucking pathological the amount of anti-trump posts you see.
They will quite literally celebrate the death of Trump supporters in the same breath that they'll condemn you for saying that it's good that Brandon Bernard was killed via the death penalty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:25:06 2020 No.17087275 >>17087229 some communities are critical of woke culture without being comprised of the sort of people who yell "nigger" for fun and are 1% likely to shoot up a mosque. the counter-culture doesn't have to be fucking /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:27:22 2020 No.17087291 >>17087260 >His most annoying thing is this "bigger is better mentality". It's because he's insecure about his tiny Mormon penis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:28:09 2020 No.17087298 >>17087275 Extremism on one side will only create extremism on the opposite end. How do you not see this? Civil discourse is gone from the mainstream american culture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:28:20 2020 No.17087300 What is the most marketable setting for porn stories - Fantasy, modern, or sci-fi?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:30:13 2020 No.17087312 >>17087298 civil discourse cannot exist in the face of such blatant contradictions >>17087300 modern obviously, but between fantasy and sci fi it's gotta be fantasy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:30:17 2020 No.17087314 >>17087300 Just write romance novels, anon. They're more popular than fantasy and sci-fi combined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:32:17 2020 No.17087332 >>17087312 >such blatant contradictions I agree. It's impossible to reason with progressives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:33:06 2020 No.17087338 >>17087312 >modern obviously, That is actually surprising. My gut was telling me sci-fi since so many jap echhi harem animes take place in the near future. >>17087314 That's what I'm planning on. Just extremely explicit ones.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:36:45 2020 No.17087364 [DELETED]

>>17087332
see that's exactly what I'm talking about. if I think you're out to kill as many non-whites as possible and you think I'm out to murder as many babies as possible it's fucking pointless for us to hold any kind of "civil discourse".

there's only one way about it. our ways of life will collide and one of them will win, conquering the other. almost certainly mine. sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:38:24 2020 No.17087380 >>17087364 You are mentally ill. Seek help.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:39:44 2020 No.17087388 >>17087176 >Manifest Delusions Does it have gri though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:39:45 2020 No.17087387 >>17087380 you gave up pretty fast

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:40:06 2020 No.17087390 >>17087300 Modern. Fantasy/sci-fi has a niche, but it's not nearly as popular as contemporary stuff. That's generally though. If you've got talent it doesn't really matter what you write because the setting is so much window dressing.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:45:49 2020 No.17087422
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>>17087193
It was a travesty they didn’t get in on Shadesmar. Imagine.
After a while stuck on the tiny oathgate platform in the middle of the sea of beads, Kal began noticing exactly how pretty Syl was in her new size. After a few hours of Syl playfully flirting with Kal in this new form, he pinned her down, inhaled her stormlight dress off, and they began to fuck like Axehounds. Humiliationspren and shamespren popped up around Shallan. Tears silently streamed down her face as she admitted the truth. All Radiants were built for the GHP (glowing Honorspren pussy). Realizing this, she immediately sketched up a new personality dedicated to being the side piece for all of Bridge Four. If she couldn’t have hall, at least she could let Lopin and his cousins turn her into a slut for windrunner cock.
Adolin cheered both of them on, throwing out pointers for Kal and Syl alike.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:47:52 2020 No.17087441 File: 71 KB, 355x530, 1608440073793.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >female protagonist destroys her uterus so that menstruation doesn't distract her from becoming a warrior not sure if based

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:48:07 2020 No.17087442 >>17087422 What the fuck am I reading?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:51:02 2020 No.17087460 >>17087442 Sandershit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:51:11 2020 No.17087461 >>17087441 If she views it as a terrible sacrifice then it's a sign of personal strength and commitment. If she sees it as liberating and life changing then it's pernicious radical feminism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:56:45 2020 No.17087484 >>17087390 >>17087312 >Modern Does that include catgirls/furries/elves? I was under the impression they were a requirement.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 21:14:34 2020 No.17087564

>>17087484
Porn stories can be about whatever you want. Most of them are just normal settings. A lot of people don't need anything exotic, and the more grounded it is, the easier it is for them to enjoy the titillation and insert themselves into the story.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 21:16:18 2020 No.17087575 >>17087422 Awooga

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 21:25:14 2020 No.17087627 File: 63 KB, 271x267, chair.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17087422 >you will never have qt human sized syl love you and playfully help you through your depression

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 21:41:31 2020 No.17087699

> Navani considered it, though storms, she knew she shouldn’t have. It was another trick - another catalyst added to the system to push the reaction forward. Yet Navani couldn’t lie to herself. She did want to know. As always, questions teased her.

Imagine willingly helping your enemy and potentially betraying everyone else in the process because: “questions teased here”.

I’d rather have foot notes than completely destroying any character development and immersion for the sake of an info dump.

What the fuck are you doing Brandon?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 21:57:58 2020 No.17087786
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Earthsea is so like, lonely. I cant get into it. It's always from this detached perspective in ged's mind. He'll describe what some other character look like and that's it, back to some melancholic description of the surroundings and internal dread about a shadow. The only time it seemed like he gave a shit about anyone was when he wanted to kill that dude at the magic school.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:01:30 2020 No.17087804 File: 134 KB, 650x650, 1491368694942.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RECOMMEND ME A BOOK THAT DOES A TIME LOOP WELL I'VE ONLY EVER FOUND ONE

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:01:55 2020 No.17087807 >>17087786 That's because Le Guin was a hack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:05:29 2020 No.17087833 >>17087786 >>17087807 filtered. that melancholy and distance is part of the aesthetic of the books. i find it comfy and poetic desu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:18:35 2020 No.17087920 >>17087833 That's because you have a vagina.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:20:50 2020 No.17087932

>>17087699
Raboniel knew what Navani was doing every step of the way the entire time they were together and for whatever reason Navani couldn't get that through her head even though Raboniel and spren and others told her she'd never out think Raboniel.

It happened THREE times before the 4th and final time where Navani discovered how to kill spren/fused. Those chapters drove me up a fucking wall because of how stupid she was.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:21:13 2020 No.17087935 >>17087920 true

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:28:48 2020 No.17087974

>>17087932
>blaming it on the character

This is entirely the author’s fault. This single part completely broke immersion for me. I couldn’t believe my eye at how unbelievable that interaction was. She was helping the enemy get valuable intel that could get them all exterminated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:03:33 2020 No.17088153 File: 267 KB, 913x2048, 80DADA8A-AFFA-4FF9-B718-8B0A93F9E606.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder if Syl watched as Lyn fucked Kal’s depression away

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:06:13 2020 No.17088165 >>17088153 All you can do is wonder. Sanderson is YA

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:06:21 2020 No.17088166 >>17087441 >Chinkshit

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:08:35 2020 No.17088182

>>17085391
>not realizing that science fiction has always been radical when it was published and you’re one of those people who would have said the exact same thing about something like Stranger in a Strange Land when it was published

big boomer energy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:10:49 2020 No.17088198 >>17086183 Too Like the Lightning

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:12:32 2020 No.17088211 >Sanderson is actually getting worse with time Shouldn’t the opposite happen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:12:42 2020 No.17088212 >>17087061 You were not anonymous in the agora. You were surrounded by your neighbors and peers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:17:54 2020 No.17088242 >>17085319 Even the Mormons are going woke. Do tumblrinas really have so much buying power that everyone must cater to them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:17:56 2020 No.17088243 >>17088212 You don’t know what an Agora is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:20:28 2020 No.17088257 >>17088211 He’s gotten better. Look at Rhythm of War compared to Mistborn book one

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:20:45 2020 No.17088259 >>17086093 Molly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:23:16 2020 No.17088276 >>17085053 Is Gentleman Bastards good? Really liked the first hundred pages of book 1, but now that they're trying to con this Don guy its kinda lame. Wish it was all about Locke when he was a kid in the gang of thieves that was more entertaining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:23:36 2020 No.17088279 >>17088257 Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:25:14 2020 No.17088288 >>17088279 Cope LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:25:45 2020 No.17088289 >>17087139 Min is best girl. Nyneave would would be worth the constant bitching. Elayne should die in a fire.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:26:14 2020 No.17088292 >>17088243 >there were only 140,000 people in the ancient city of Athens, a small-city by today’s standards where you’d see people you knew all the time Fuck, i guess you’re owned

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:29:18 2020 No.17088307 >>17087627 Literal manic girly dreampixie. Aren't they supposed to be a sign of terrible writing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:29:45 2020 No.17088312 >>17088257 But RoW is shit mate. What are you on about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:31:44 2020 No.17088319 Words of Radiance >= Way of Kings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oathbringer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhythm of War

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:31:49 2020 No.17088320 >>17088276 No, fuck Lynch, he's a piece of shit whos jealous that rothfuss wrote better cuck shit.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:33:26 2020 No.17088330

>>17087786
>It's always from this detached perspective in ged's mind
That's an awful take on the narrator, which is third person omniscient, so it's not from Ged's mind. At any rate, that aloofness is part of Ged's personality. He's still very caring, like towards his teacher in the island, and the Archmage, and his other buddy from magic school, and all those random peasants he helped with his magic. He's just not really warm.
You should keep reading, The Farthest Shore literally shows you, the reader, are not alone in feeling that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:33:44 2020 No.17088333 File: 553 KB, 1588x2500, starchart_roshar_color.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >late night Sanderstorm thread Post your favorite line from Rhythm of War. I'll start: >Kill yourself, my man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:33:48 2020 No.17088335 >>17088307 Manic pixie dream girls are bad when the author makes them fuck his self insert Kaladin, AKA Branded Sadman/son is indeed a self insert, however memes aside they have no romance between them

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:34:08 2020 No.17088337 >>17085062 cuts and cuts and cuts

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:34:39 2020 No.17088340 >>17088153 Why's he white?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:35:03 2020 No.17088343 >>17088333 You don’t even know how hyped I am for the Ashyn novel

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:36:32 2020 No.17088350

>>17087079
I think there's a market for oldschool noble knights like Galahad, easy on the cliches so no slaying dragons and stuff, but noble pious people who do the right thing despite the difficulty.

Other characters in the setting need to be realistic and grimdark edgelords though, that's just the way it is

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:36:54 2020 No.17088353

>>17088335
I'm unironically a huge syl/kaladin fag and am desperate for them to get together by book 5 because I can sense that Sando will do some bullshit like saddle Kal with Shallan after Adolin dies heroically in book 5 or pair him up with some noname rando, I literally forgot about Lyn between Oathbringer and RoW

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:40:28 2020 No.17088372 File: 516 KB, 1588x2500, starchart_threnody_color.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17088343 >post book 8 Cool bro, can't wait to discuss it with you in 15 years, assuming he decides to write it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:40:45 2020 No.17088376 >>17088353 At first I was a shallan/kaladincuck but I became a Syl/Kal CHAD I also am a Vivenna/Kal Chad Oh and a Leshwi/Kal Chad (I haven’t finished RoW but fuck it, I want Kal to colonize that crab pussy)

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:41:02 2020 No.17088377

>>17088335
She may not be fucking him, but she is coddling his poor tender feelings in a wish fulfilling way. Syl is pure emotional support porn, (same as Adolin) and Kaladin gets off on his self flagellation for not treating her right. Given sanderson's prudish ways, this is probably his equivalent of sex.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:41:47 2020 No.17088380 >>17088372 It was what it is. Fortunately we have plenty of books in between to hold us over

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:42:08 2020 No.17088381 >>17088340 Because people always think of the main hero as white in western culture. Unless they are deliberately making a statement, that is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:45:35 2020 No.17088390 >>17088353 I think he is gonna end up with Laral. Sander will make him raise roshones kids.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:45:39 2020 No.17088391 Sandershit a hack

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:47:47 2020 No.17088407 >>17088376 But haven't you heard of the true OTP? According to bSand's live stream, the new hotness is Rlain/Renarin

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:51:31 2020 No.17088428 >>17085397 just watch the Hit TV Series

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:53:05 2020 No.17088435 >>17088407 That would make me sad as I always thought of them as bros

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:55:35 2020 No.17088450 >>17088435 Yeah, I never picked up any romance from their interactions either.they both just seemed like misfits who bonded over not fitting in. But apparently it is a thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:57:12 2020 No.17088460 >>17086966 Celia Bowen - The Night Circus

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:57:46 2020 No.17088465 >>17088330 It's not omniscient. The narrator knows ged's mind and no one else's.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:00:31 2020 No.17088491 >>17086966 Althea - the Liveship Traders

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:07:44 2020 No.17088545

>>17088376
I was reading RoW waiting for Venli or Leshwi to find Kaladin and have a bit of a romance with him and was disappointed it never happened. On a side note I’m not unhappy Rlain was confirmed gay because I thought Sando was setting up a thing between him and Venli and that’s possibly the most boring pairing in the series

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:21:58 2020 No.17088605 File: 217 KB, 480x640, sain21642716_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17088166 >Chinkshit is there any other kind? >>17088491 I had to google this to make sure it wasn't porn

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:23:00 2020 No.17088612 Has anyone read Old Man's War? Is it recommendable at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:29:22 2020 No.17088641 >>17085759 YA is not a buzzword for things you don't like. One day you might understand this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:30:14 2020 No.17088644 >>17085745 >Can't reasonably understand what's going on without reading virtually everything else Sanderson wrote before. I've only read Mistborn and I have no problem following SA. Stop being a sperg.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:30:59 2020 No.17088651 >>17088612 idk i've read reviews and it seems decent, they get new young new bodies though so the premise of le old people fighting isn't really carried through

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:31:23 2020 No.17088652 >>17088605 Its an awesome series. Probably the best one Hobb wrote, though I do have a soft spot for the farseer trilogy. And while Althea is an excellent protag, Kennit is the best character in the series.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:32:02 2020 No.17088655 File: 55 KB, 577x382, bakker hunch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why's he always hunching?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:32:52 2020 No.17088659 >>17088612 Starts strong, fist book is the best. Sequels have highs and lows. Ending isn't worth reading. I would treat the first book as a standalone, and you will be quite happy with the results.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:39:55 2020 No.17088693 >>17088652 I'm gonna go ahead and admit that I read your post as Athena - Loveship Traders

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:44:27 2020 No.17088718 File: 20 KB, 200x320, bakker.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17088655 Blew out his back fucking cheap sloots.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:47:58 2020 No.17088741 >>17088718 yeah... i'm thinking he's based

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 01:01:03 2020 No.17088801 >>17088718 R Scott Fukkar

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 01:03:35 2020 No.17088812 >>17087920 Not yet, surgery is postponed with corona.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 01:14:55 2020 No.17088866 >>17085745 Your own fault Go read the Coppermind

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 01:35:57 2020 No.17088943

>>17088659
Sounds decent enough I'll probably pick up a copy tomorrow, my father is really hard into military scifi/fantasy and we always read something then discuss it at around christmas, got him into the Black Company last year and he blew threw those in like a week, but I'm getting to the limit of things that I've actually read beforehand

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 01:57:29 2020 No.17089071 How important is prose to you guys? I know prose should take a backseat to plot and characters. However, I can't stop from letting mediocre prose bother me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:45:44 2020 No.17089321 >>17088655 >mfw when the dread seed hits the detritus

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:47:16 2020 No.17089327 File: 575 KB, 666x559, Captura.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there a good fantasy book that makes use of mediterranean type of mythology and creatures (centaurs, fauns, sirens, etc.) instead of pseudo-nordic?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:48:02 2020 No.17089335

>>17089071
I read fantasy for stories, that is, plots and characters. Not prose. Good prose is garnish that goes with an otherwise good story. For me, prose does its job as long as I can visualize events easily, and I consider prose for fantasy stories to be at its best when its "invisible", meaning I'm able to visualize so easily I don't even really think about the words on the page. If the prose calls attention to itself, I generally consider that a bad thing, because it is getting in the way of the story. It's like trying to enjoy a symphony but one of the musicians can't resist showing off, the effect of symphonic harmony is disrupted, and instead you start paying attention to all the instruments.

I'm not saying it's wrong to enjoy stories for their prose, that's just not how I enjoy reading. I prefer to engage with stories on a narrative level, abstracted above prose as much as possible.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:56:17 2020 No.17089373

>>17089335

I think the difference between people who like fantasy and people who do not is that the people who like it are the kind of reader that "sees" the action in his mind, while the ones who dont like it are the kind to "hear" the book in their mind.
They prefer more prose because its like music, in that it sounds pretty, but the one who "see" the book find it an obstruction to visual imagination.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:58:10 2020 No.17089377 >>17089335 I can understand that as I do the same. I don't mind prose that calls attention to itself, so long as it's good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:58:23 2020 No.17089378 >>17089373 I could buy that, because I have always had a very active and powerful imagination, so visualizing everything I read is as natural to me as breathing. It's one of the reasons I took to fantasy from a very young age.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:59:52 2020 No.17089386 >>17089377 It's certainly better than being distracted by bad prose, but I have a limit for how much I am willing to be distracted before I find the book tiresome.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:07:23 2020 No.17089408

>>17089373
I unironically feel attacked, anon. You can describe to me a valley or battle in perfect detail, but my mind's eye wouldn't conjure anything. Meanwhile good prose hits a correct note, while bad prose is discordant.

>>17089386
Do you have any tips on ignoring it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:09:44 2020 No.17089416 >>17089408 And do you like fanasy anon? even if you dont "see" anything? If so, why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:19:19 2020 No.17089451 >>17089416 I may have enjoyed it more when I was younger, but fantasy still offers good characters and plot. I read a lot of literary fiction and while the prose is on point, there's little to no plot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:23:27 2020 No.17089466 >>17085053 Hell yeah more goddamn cat

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:24:56 2020 No.17089471 >>17089451 Of course, absolutes dont exist. But in my experience, the people who hear instead of see literature tend to prefer more prose and less fiction. But Im not saying any of the groups are worse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:28:38 2020 No.17089482 >>17089471 I know and was only teasing, but it does explain a lot.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:48:36 2020 No.17089538

>>17089373
I feel like this is a part of the reason that I dislike space centric scifi desu, fantasy for me is easy to visualize and generally conjures up a more comfy and wholesome aesthetic in my mind I frequently sit around doodling stereotypical orcs and elves when I'm bored even because it's actively something I enjoy even if it's something I've seen done a thousand times before, space on the other hand is empty and cold and even an author describing some future mega station filled with millions of people or some overcrowded planet will always give me some twinge of existential dread that I simply never get with fantasy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:56:04 2020 No.17089566 >>17089538 The difference between people who like Sci Fi and Fantasy is literally city people vs country people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:58:48 2020 No.17089577 >>17089566 explain

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:59:01 2020 No.17089579 File: 44 KB, 528x704, co1ort.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can i get some recommendations based on my love of pic ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 04:00:28 2020 No.17089584 >>17089577 Outdoorsy types like the forests and dales and all that in Fantasy. City bugmen like the sardine can space stations.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 04:04:13 2020 No.17089603

>>17089584
That could be some part of it I did literally grow up in the middle of nowhere and my grandparents owned a ranch even so I do enjoy nature, but for me my dislike of scifi comes more from the whole vastness of space and question reality which I've always chalked up to too much tism

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 04:05:21 2020 No.17089606

>>17089408
>Do you have any tips on ignoring it?
I don't really "ignore" prose, I just don't focus on it while reading, and instead focus on the image in my head that the words generate. I'm still aware, on some level, that I'm reading words on the page, but I am not really thinking about that, I'm too busy "looking" at the image of what I'm reading and "hearing" characters speak. Because of this visualization, I get very engrossed in the books I read and can tune out basically any kind of background noise. It's why I don't listen to music while reading, I wouldn't even register it.

I can't really explain how I do this, it's just how I have always read, and from what I gather it's the same for other strong visualizers. It's not a skill I learned how to do, it's just the way I've read since I was a little kid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 04:24:24 2020 No.17089659 >>17089579 Any of the 40k books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:14:36 2020 No.17089786 File: 23 KB, 236x378, 9ece9a63bb6ba0a2328020049fd920cf--renna-perso.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17087441 sauce? love over the top self-sacrifice with actual consequences

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:29:33 2020 No.17089829

>>17088390
That would be terrible but I could see it happening because Sando has such a raging boner for Kal's life to always be suffering. Some terrible part of me wants Syl and him to have some kind of romance since he's too broken for anyone else but also because he's not going to get any pussy without her sitting on the headboard and cheering him on anyway. Oh fuck, that's exactly what Sando will do, isn't it? It all ties in with the fucking Windrunner oaths for him to get his childhood sweetheart but has to take care of her and Roshone's kid after he dies. And Syl still sits on the headboard and cheers this cuckery on anyway. If he gets any kind of "happy end" which is almost certainly not be the case, it would be some backhanded happy end like that.
>>17088450
The only person I have a harder time imagining any kind of romantic relationship with than Kal is Renarin due to him being an autist. Sando might have meant it in a bromance way.
>>17085745
You legitimately don't need to read anything else. The Cosmere characters showing up is more like a nod to the audience who has read them, but it's not a requirement to enjoy the story. WoK was the first Sando book I read and didn't touch another Cosmere book till after finishing WoR. If you read and like SA, then go read whatever other books interest you and you'll just see parts of SA differently, which actually gives the series more re-readability, I'd say.

I just finished RoW since I got a bit into it and decided I needed to re-read the entire series - is it just me or is it 1000 pages of fucking nothing? So much happens in the first two books, particularly WoR, less in Oathbringer and what the fuck all happened in RoW? Fucking around Shadesmar forever is what.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:53:36 2020 No.17089905 >>17089071 Prose sets the tone and mood for the narrative. Stories with bad prose are like watching a movie shot with a potato.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:03:44 2020 No.17089941 >>17087786 >>17087833 >>17088330 I think a huge part of this impression is due to the fact that for the first book Le Guin completely (and I imagine deliberately) ignored the show-don't-tell adage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:38:34 2020 No.17090044 >>17088644 >Imagine enjoying being scammed and getting only half the story ew lad

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:40:34 2020 No.17090051 >>17088641 When you grow up you will understand why Sanderson is YA.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:59:47 2020 No.17090106

>>17088812
Aww, don't sew your gash up; its the most interesting thing about you.
>>17089829
Laral is actually a somewhat good choice for Kal: she doesn't revere him or his rank, she knew him before he was a slave, so she knows he has always been a moody bitch, and she doesn't need his protection. Also the fact that she's lighteyes would mean Kal has to get over his prejudice. And Syl likes her. I dont know if anyone can make Kal happy, but I feel like her previous marriage would add to his misery.
As for Renarin... I think that Sanderson gets off on creating wooby characters and then giving them gift endings that other authors wouldn't. He fulfills the Mormon mandate of being nice to everyone, especially the downtrodden.He gets praise from his woke author friends for inclusion and diversity. He also scratches the author's itch to wrap everything up nicely with a bow on top. So I see why its happening. He also is having renarin rebel against the life everyone thought he would enjoy in the ardentia. Why not rebel even more with a former spy? I can see all of this now that it has been brought up, so iguess you could say I understand the meta of the relationship, but while reading the book I never picked up on any if it. Maybe sanderson has finally achieved subtlety, or maybe he's really shoehorning this in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:05:45 2020 No.17090131 >>17088211 No, many times writers say all they had to say and the rest is just combinations of words.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:06:05 2020 No.17090134 >>17088641 Only children assume it's an insult. It's just a descriptor for the style of writing intended for younger audience, which is exactly what Sanderson writes for. Him being a hack on top of that has nothing to do with it though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:06:35 2020 No.17090138 File: 12 KB, 183x276, 2Q==(2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is good

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:07:37 2020 No.17090139 File: 13 KB, 174x290, Z.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is an extremely based series

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:08:11 2020 No.17090143 >>17087191 Any and all social cliques. Don't be a retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:09:26 2020 No.17090147 >>17090143 >social cliques cringe and blue pilled

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:14:04 2020 No.17090163

>>17088211
When you just churn out material like the lifeless robot you are and never stop to examine what worked and didn't, never stop to consider criticism, you form bad habits in your writing that only go on to inform and enforce even worse habits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:15:07 2020 No.17090168 >>17090147 >being an active part of a social clique, such as /sffg/ >being too dumb to see it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:17:12 2020 No.17090174 >>17090138 Can you tell us more about it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:18:31 2020 No.17090177 File: 79 KB, 319x135, the apprentice and the master.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They are related right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:26:09 2020 No.17090209 >>17090168 >/sffg/ is not an echo chamber LMAO

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:49:32 2020 No.17090306

>>17089373
What a load of pretentious bullshit. The lengths you idiots will go to excuse subpar writing is astounding.
You know whether you like something isn't the sole deciding factor of quality, right? You can enjoy something without pretending that what you enjoy is actually good quality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:50:34 2020 No.17090309 >>17090209 >reading comprehension >you Pick one and only one

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:54:01 2020 No.17090323 >follow authors on Amazon >no way to actually see who I'm following This is certainly a useful feature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:55:51 2020 No.17090331 >>17090209 That's what they're saying, idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:03:02 2020 No.17090360 >>17090309 >>17090331 This is the average reading comprehension of a /sffg/ poster.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:33:37 2020 No.17090489

>>17090044
Even if you've read every available cosmere book, you still don't even have half the story. If you can't follow cosmere lore spoonfed to you in what amounts to the cosmere physics book that is RoW, that's on you. How do you get filtered by """YA""" literature?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:38:28 2020 No.17090512

>>17090106
>while reading the book I never picked up on any if it
Because Renarin's interest in Rlain is a passing reference in one chapter back in Oathbringer. Yet another subtle narrative join planned since the outset and almost entirely obscured until it's revealed in due time.
>but sanderhack a shit reeeeeeeeee

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:42:35 2020 No.17090537 >>17090323 goodreads fantatic fiction mailing list go to a pirate site specializing in ebooks and refresh the section you are interest in every so often there all better options than amazon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:46:15 2020 No.17090556 >>17087804 WHAT WAS IT?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:46:32 2020 No.17090557 I've downloaded the complete book of Malazan and on my tablet it says it has 19 000 pages. What should I know before getting into it? Keep in mind that I read Gardens of the Moon a long time ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:48:29 2020 No.17090564 >>17090557 >What should I know before getting into it? It's bad.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:55:15 2020 No.17090594

>>17090557
Re-read Gardens of the Moon.
Expect to have little idea what anyone is talking about related to history and politics and just roll with it as best you can.
Be prepared for several very sudden and seemingly inexplicable narrative shifts that won't all come together till the last few books.
Don't forget to have fun!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:56:54 2020 No.17090603 >>17090306 >You know whether you like something isn't the sole deciding factor of quality, right? You know your personal opinion isn't a factor at all, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:58:15 2020 No.17090615 >>17090557 Don't be concerned if you don't get what's going on

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:00:32 2020 No.17090628 >>17089786 The Poppy War

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:11:24 2020 No.17090690 >>17090556 martian time-slip

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:14:20 2020 No.17090713 File: 28 KB, 230x346, bone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this good? Was gifted the first book, saw its a series. Will probably read through it around the holidays when I'm visiting my parents.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:15:44 2020 No.17090725 >>17090690 I tried reading PKD's The Penultimate Truth and the first 20 pages were pure word-salad with no context and I gave up. Is PKD too big brain for me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:19:03 2020 No.17090749 >>17090713 Its actual YA with some typical YA tropes, most notably a particularly painful love triangle, and if you can stomach that you might enjoy it, but I think some of the author's other works are better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:37:27 2020 No.17090842 File: 55 KB, 340x191, q.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I binge read for 4 days straight and now I have zero desire to read at all

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:37:55 2020 No.17090844 >>17090725 His prose is all over the place considering the amount of work he has written across the decades involved.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:51:18 2020 No.17090893 >>17090842 You need a palate cleanser. Maybe try something significantly different from the books you've been reading. Or maybe a different medium altogether.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:55:49 2020 No.17090913 >>17089606 I'm in 100% agreement with this and similar posts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:56:54 2020 No.17090917 >>17090842 How many hours per day is "binge"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:02:42 2020 No.17090947 >ywn live in a world where you can put implants to enhance your body or to swap a badly damaged heart for a healthy one just like that How do I cope, bros?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:04:30 2020 No.17090963 >>17090917 45 minutes a day

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:05:46 2020 No.17090973 >>17090557 make sure you carefully read the poems etc before the chapter, helps you understand what's happening

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:08:24 2020 No.17090986 >>17090749 So maybe not the best for a bitter cynical 30 year old. But I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the review.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:11:51 2020 No.17091008 It's possible that I may exceed 10k pages read this month.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:14:52 2020 No.17091026 https://www.brandonsanderson.com/state-of-the-sanderson-2020/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:16:56 2020 No.17091035 >>17090963 Considering the type of posters there are here, this could be entirely true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:19:37 2020 No.17091047 File: 25 KB, 290x158, lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh boy

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:21:19 2020 No.17091053

I've never read an adult fantasy series that came close to any YA fantasy series I enjoyed (exclusively from before ~2008). It literally feels like most fantasy today is just writing their own extended universe wiki instead of trying to tell a real story.

Just picked up So you Want to be a Wizard again, still holds up 20+ years later. Sea of Trolls by Nancy Farmer? Still better than just about anything today. Abhorsen Series? Yep still amazing

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:23:23 2020 No.17091065 >>17091053 to be clear I don't read any YA today, I also don't read any fantasy though because none of it compares to basic YA fantasy from the 90's, what gives

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:23:28 2020 No.17091068 >>17091053 That's because you read them before you stopped being able to enjoy anything,.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:24:38 2020 No.17091077 >>17091065 >>17091053 >comes to /sffg/ >doesn't read any sff As expected.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:25:29 2020 No.17091082 File: 37 KB, 366x615, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17091077 I read plenty of sci-fi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:28:35 2020 No.17091098 >>17091026 >I’ll start writing Stormlight 5 on January 1st, 2022 for a fall 2023 release.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:31:58 2020 No.17091110 >>17091098 >won't start writing until Stormlight 6 until at least 2026, probably late 2027 release.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:33:59 2020 No.17091121

>Rhythm of War is spending its third week on the New York Times bestseller list as of this writing, and has spent all three of those weeks as the #1 most read book in the country, per Amazon’s charts. So…huzzah! Thank you so much. 2020 might have been a trash year, but I hope this helped end it on a better note for many of you.
>The book did about 40% better in sales than the previous volume, which is amazing. Thank you all for your support. This series is still in active progress, and I’ll dive into Book Five (the final book of the first sequence) in 2022, for a 2023 release. (Which is when we’ll probably do the Kickstarter for Words of Radiance in leatherbound.)
>I also intend to write a novella about Rock to fill in what happened with him after the events of Rhythm of War. The first group of books won’t be finished until then.
Ready for more hundreds of thousands of words of filler?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:35:38 2020 No.17091129 >>17091121 Heckin' yah mah body is REEEEEADDDDY!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:52:18 2020 No.17091221 >>17090986 The setting, which is basically fantasy Russia, is the most interesting part of it and if you read it for what it is you might get a kick out of it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:26:20 2020 No.17091404 chinkshit >>> Sandersoy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:29:14 2020 No.17091422 Whats a good fantasy book that has heavy winter vibes to it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:31:37 2020 No.17091430 >>17091422 Frosty The Snowman

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:43:49 2020 No.17091502 >>17091422 That's very vague and quite possibly only of personal understanding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:50:25 2020 No.17091548 >>17085053 Is the goddamn cat still around? Did he leave not-hogwarts yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:54:51 2020 No.17091577 >>17091502 Setting during winter

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:02:09 2020 No.17091622 >>17087388 if you are referring to grit ot grim, yes it foes

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:19:05 2020 No.17091734

>>17088545
>Rlain was confirmed gay
He wasn't though. All we got was that the time(s) he tried mate form it didn't work. But if you actually read the flashback chapters, both Venli and Eshonai say that Mate Form doesn't always work and some Listeners had to go into mate form multiple times before they reproduced.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:20:07 2020 No.17091742 File: 29 KB, 325x499, 515z4MNZ4iL._SX323_BO1,204,203,200_[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17091422

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:21:50 2020 No.17091750 >>17090725 PKD is a terrible writer. He has interesting ideas, which is what keeps him popular

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:30:13 2020 No.17091790 >>17091121 The novellas have little filler, which is ironic lmao.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:34:08 2020 No.17091811 Why is there no one to "compete" with Sanderson? Like seriously, why aren't people writing? We're in the middle of the pandemic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:43:08 2020 No.17091861 >>17091811 I’m writing I have 24,000 words so far and hope to be finished by 2022

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:43:35 2020 No.17091865 >>17091811 Clearly you have no idea how any of this works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:45:52 2020 No.17091882 >>17091811 publishers didn't like that I used the word "nigger"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:46:59 2020 No.17091888 >>17091861 I would genuinely like to read stuff from the anons posting here. I feel like there might honestly be some hidden gems. >>17091865 Perhaps I don't, do you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:47:52 2020 No.17091895 >>17091882 I did a whole text search of some books I have and there's an astounding number of books and authors that use that word.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:48:53 2020 No.17091897 >>17091888 >I would genuinely like to read stuff from the anons posting here. The writing general exists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:50:21 2020 No.17091904 >>17088165 hes worse than Ya, hes allah forbid a Mormon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:51:19 2020 No.17091913 >>17087016 Excellent choice. Wish she would write the third book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:51:25 2020 No.17091914 >>17091897 I hardly doubt that would satisfy my needs. I was talking about full novels.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:51:26 2020 No.17091915 >>17091895 not from 2020 there aren't

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:52:38 2020 No.17091924

>>17091888
My world has three separate Hogwarts/White Tower/generic magic training places. However instead of magic each one focuses on a different aspect of humanity. Mind, body, and soul. I’ll mostly be focusing on body temple, and the culture of this place is a direct ripoff of /fit/, with copies of Rich, Zyzz, and Scooby being the teachers

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:52:50 2020 No.17091925 >>17087176 wow thats bait , beyond redemption was shite

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:55:15 2020 No.17091934 >>17086966 Taylor Hebert.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:55:42 2020 No.17091936 >>17091924 Honestly sounds based

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:57:54 2020 No.17091943

>>17091811
There's only ever really one or two writers per genre who can get away with pumping out 1-2 books a year. Sanderson happens to be said writer for Fantasy.

That's not necessarily a good thing though, unless all you want to do is push a bunch of product and hope that some of it gets adapted into tv shows or movies. Sanderson follows the same story structure with the same character structure in practically every single one of his series, and every single one of his books has a nearly identical layout in terms of build up -> payoff. He's gotten his style figured out so much that he can just autopilot and shit out books.

He's also very adamant about treating writing like it's a job. He explained it where he, on days he's writing, comes in at 9am and leaves at 5pm, writing the entire time whether or not he has the inspiration or drive. And it shows.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:58:31 2020 No.17091948

>>17091422
The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe - All winter.
The Left Hand of Darkness - Set on a cold planet literally called Winter.
The Shining - If you count horror as fantasy.
Brook & Catarina - They get around on a dog sled and build igloos to camp. Very short though.
Hogfather - Self-explanatory, Christmas Discworld book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:00:06 2020 No.17091958 File: 101 KB, 1053x1053, 36454667._UY1053_SS1053_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anybody here read Empire of Silence? Thoughts?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:02:22 2020 No.17091974
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>>17091895
All of the below authors have used the word in their works:

Greg Bear
John Brunner
Harlan Ellison
Joe Haldeman
Frank Herbert
George R.R. Martin
Richard Matheson
L.E. Modesitt Jr.
Richard K. Morgan
Larry Niven
Jerry Pournelle
Mike Resnick
Kim Stanley Robinson
Robert Silverberg
Michael Swanwick
James Tiptree Jr.
Ben Winters

and that's just a tiny sampling. Black authors have been excluded.

And then there's a story by pic related that it's in full ebonics and uses the word 40 times in 15 pages.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:05:48 2020 No.17091999

>>17091943
Reading Sanderson is like reading Anime.

I honestly think that he has the ability to be very original and come up with genuenly good stories.

My biggest problem with him is that he's quite literally a bad writer. He can't write deep characters, his dialogue is hideous. He's "immersion-breaking" repetitive and cannot get rid of this "bigger is better" habit. I guess that might be due to the fact that, like you said, he's pumping books so fast with no regards for its editing process.

>He's also very adamant about treating writing like it's a job. He explained it where he, on days he's writing, comes in at 9am and leaves at 5pm, writing the entire time whether or not he has the inspiration or drive. And it shows.

I don't think that this is necessarily bad. You have world renowned writers that do this (Not talking about /sff/ authors).
It just depends on the person.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:05:54 2020 No.17092001 Anything like House of Suns? Great scale etc. Always wanted to read fantasy or sci-fantasy in that scale.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:08:37 2020 No.17092021 >>17091958 2 ratings from the group, a 5 & 4 star.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:13:38 2020 No.17092065 >>17091974 Two examples from GRRM: "It was the niggers, the damn niggers." - 1968 "He hated Jews, niggers," - 1987

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:17:17 2020 No.17092090 >>17091974 how many of these published books with that word in them in 2020?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:18:11 2020 No.17092098

>>17088182
>not realizing that science fiction has always been radical when it was published
Scifi being taken over by radical magazine editors many decades ago doesn't mean it has "always been radical" just that such has been the case for a long long time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:18:22 2020 No.17092101 >>17092090 I wouldn't know, I don't have many 2020 books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:21:20 2020 No.17092122 what's more likely to get published in 2020: full on brother-sister fucking or anime-style not-blood-related handholding?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:22:13 2020 No.17092128 >>17092122 That's a really stupid question and not for the reason you're thinking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:23:58 2020 No.17092150 >>17091914 If you read some of the writing general's attempts, you wouldn't want to read full novels of their amateur writing

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:24:11 2020 No.17092154
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> I am a shitposter of ages, Anon ... ages. I have dropped my blackpills upon a thousand hearts. I have posted both based and cringe in the great that authored this madness. I have scaled the heights of great threads and generals, watched the hearts of Tranny Jannies break for fury.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:24:48 2020 No.17092160 >>17089566 I like both tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:25:30 2020 No.17092165 >>17091422 first 20% of the darkness that comes before

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:26:09 2020 No.17092169 Protip: If you ever want to feel better about your writing, visit r/fantasywriters

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:26:22 2020 No.17092172

>>17092090
A relatively more recent one is the 2010 anthology, Warriors, edited by Martin and Dozois that includes the word 29 times.

The Big Book of Classic Fantasy, published 2019, edited by Jeff and Ann VanderMeer includes the story mentioned here: >>17091974 but that doesn't really count.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:30:55 2020 No.17092210

I tend the fields …

A glutinous breath. The squint of a soul attempting to squint away its own misgivings. “You think th-this voice is … is your own?”

And burn them.

The Place smiled the negligent smile of those who could have no stake in feuds so minor.

“The truth of a thing lies in its origins, Proyas. I know not from whence this voice comes.”

Hope, beaming with a hand-seizing urgency. “Heaven! It comes from Heaven! Can’t you see?”

The Place gazed down at its most beautiful slave.

“Then Heaven is not sane.”

The Place bid the man strip and he stripped.

Even after so many years of hardship, the man’s frame remained upright and unbroken. He was lean, the way all Ordealmen were lean; shadow inked the overlay and anchoring of his every muscle. Black hair matted the olive-pale skin of his chest. It thinned to a line as it descended the hollow of his belly, then bloomed about his groin and thighs. His phallus lay grey and inert.

The disciple hung his head, crushing his beard. His gaze was swollen and uncomprehending.

The Place drew its robe up and aside, welcomed the kiss of unencumbered air. It approached the man from behind, reached out to clutch the pulse racing in his throat.

The truth of a thing … it whispered.

It drew its member across the man’s buttocks …

Savoured the flutter beneath its fingertips …

Then the insertion. The stench of feces and sizzling lamb. The cough that was really a sob …

Deep … until all that remained was one place, the congress of Greater Souls.

It seized the man, lifted him from his feet. It used him as he had never been used before.

There was a head upon a pole behind him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:32:27 2020 No.17092225 >>17092210 DELETE THIS >t. Proyas

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:33:28 2020 No.17092229 >>17092128 Explain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:35:47 2020 No.17092242 >>17092229 The less controversial and more plain anything is, the less problems and more likely it is to be published. That's also what tends to be most liked by popular taste. The blander the better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:36:46 2020 No.17092252 >>17090306 Actually, that's quite literally the sole deciding factor of quality. If I don't like something, it can't be good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:38:24 2020 No.17092265 >>17091422 Rider at the Gate - Cherryh Rusalka - Cherryh

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:40:02 2020 No.17092277 >>17092252 >thinking your personal opinion is more important than the consensus of everyone lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:40:43 2020 No.17092287 >>17091943 >There's only ever really one or two writers per genre who can get away with pumping out 1-2 books a year. Are you serious?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:40:53 2020 No.17092288 >>17092277 >consensus of everyone No such thing retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:41:18 2020 No.17092293 >>17092242 why do you think I included NBR, retard?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:42:05 2020 No.17092299 >>17092287 Self-publishing doesn't count.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:42:58 2020 No.17092308
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Have you taken the Fanepill?
> Gods a shit
> God-of-Gods is One
> Figured this shit out (which is objectively true according to canon) before any other faction including the Nonmen
> The most ethically sound of all the factions on Earwa, not pure outright evil like the D*nyain and Cons*lt, or damned like the Schoolmen
> Kucifra aka the false ciphrang-emperor a shit. Fuck the Demon Kellhus
> Use based Pshûke magic (damnation free and D*nyain proof)
Fanimry or death, Anon,

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:43:31 2020 No.17092310 >>17092293 Because you wanted to screech about Y NO GRI!!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:44:33 2020 No.17092320 >>17092288 >consensus reality doesn't exist Well, that explains a lot about you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:45:36 2020 No.17092334 How many more threads do you think it'll be until the Bakkerposter gets tired?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:45:36 2020 No.17092335

The Holy Aspect-Emperor of the Three Seas had turned to the laughing Mother-Supreme, who lay limbs lolling upon the embroidered earth. He yanked her to feet, spared her the indignity he had extended Fanayal.

She stood uncowed, cackled in the shadow of his looming, wind-whipped aspect.

“Mother!” she cried to the skies over his shoulder. The gale tore her costume like dogs growling on towels. “Prepare for me my place! For I come as one who gives—gives without memory! One who dies for tending what is Yours!”

“My sister,” Anasûrimbor Kellhus said, “can no longer save you.”

“And yet you have come!” she cried in exaltation. “Come to collect your doom!”

“The Hundred are blind to the No-God. None more than the Mother of Birth.”

“Then why,” she shrieked laughing, “do I remember this? The White-Luck will eat you ere this day is dead!”

The Holy Aspect-Emperor of the Three Seas betrayed nothing more than wind-lashed curiosity.

“You can be Everywhere and still be blind,” he said. “You can be Eternal and remember nothing.”

“So says the loosed Demon! So says filth and horror made manifest! Abyssal hunger!”

“Even the Infinite can be surprised.”

The Anasûrimbor seized her and spoke in a single motion, his right hand clamped about her forehead, his voice cracking Reality to the joist. Brilliance consumed the Yatwerian witch. Malowebi raised a hand to shield his eyes, but too late, and so he stood blinking as the tall shadow that was the Aspect-Emperor turned from the whipping mayhem to confront him.

One of the Decapitants upon his thigh mouthed fungal warnings. Psatma Nannaferi was nowhere to be seen.

“What do you think, Mbimayu?” the Aspect-Emperor called, his voice eerie for slipping through the roar. He spoke as if about a dinner table. “Do you think Yatwer allowed her to see this?”

The Mbimayu Schoolman stood paralytic in a manner he had never before known.

“Wh-wh-what?” he stammered.

Then he heard it as an eerie intrusion upon the ripping of winds. “Motherrrrrrrr!”

A faraway call … Nearing?

Malowebi frowned, looked skyward in a panic, saw Psatma Nannaferi pitching and kicking for the merest instant before her image exploded into pulp across the arch of his Muzzû Chalice.

“Her plummet,” the Thought-dancer said.

wasn't this borderline OOC for Kellhus, He's quipping like a marvel character

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:45:41 2020 No.17092336 >>17092320 >my circle of three fat nerds have decided the consensus of the world, y-youre wrong if you disagree Ok retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:46:37 2020 No.17092346 >>17092336 Wow, your "strawman" doesn't even have straw. You really ought to be put in more effort.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:46:39 2020 No.17092347 >>17092308 >following the fakest god in earwa nah >damnation free citation needed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:47:06 2020 No.17092354 >>17092299 1000 page le ebic trash is not the only kind of book

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:48:56 2020 No.17092369 >>17092354 But it is what sells.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:50:22 2020 No.17092376 >>17092369 Irrelevant to the conversation

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:51:25 2020 No.17092390 >>17092376 You're irrelevant to the conversation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:52:52 2020 No.17092400 >>17092390 I know ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:53:37 2020 No.17092407 File: 434 KB, 596x556, contessa.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17091934 mfw path to understanding speds

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:54:05 2020 No.17092416 >>17092400 It is known.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:56:49 2020 No.17092435 >>17092416 forgive?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:57:38 2020 No.17092443 Who has the biggest dick in the Cosmere, and why is it Kelsier?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:59:13 2020 No.17092453 >>17092435 Just so you're aware, I'm not >>17091943, as that poster never responded to you. I am the chain starting with >>17092299 though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:00:01 2020 No.17092459 >>17092453 so it's treason then

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:02:04 2020 No.17092487 >>17092335 Kellhus is a troll, he quips all the time. That’s funny he refers to Yatwer as his sister — either he thinks himself a God at this point, or perhaps it’s Ajokli speaking through him?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:02:43 2020 No.17092492 >>17092459 You have no chance to survive make your time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:06:42 2020 No.17092522 >>17090557 Enjoy one of the best /sffg/ normie filters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:08:37 2020 No.17092541 >>17092522 >normie filter >recommended by NPR What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:13:50 2020 No.17092587 >>17092522 >>17092541 It's not a normie filter, I like the books but they are pretty reddit. It does filter total retards and speedreaders though with the first 100 pages of GOTM

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:18:15 2020 No.17092626

>>17090557
>Keep in mind that I read Gardens of the Moon a long time ago.
Then you'll have to reread it. Trust me, you don't remember nearly enough to make starting from book 2 viable. I would suggest that if you really want to read all of Malazan, you read the books back to back with no breaks or interruptions between them, because otherwise you will have difficulty retaining all the details and information you accumulate while reading. There is not a lot of hand-holding exposition in the series, you have to be actively reading and gathering details.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:19:54 2020 No.17092643 >>17092626 Also you'll need to be constantly referring to the wikis and other resources and it wouldn't hurt to make your personal notes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:20:58 2020 No.17092653 >>17092643 >Also you'll need to be constantly referring to the wikis and other resources do not do this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:21:19 2020 No.17092656 >>17090557 READ THE PRECHAPTER POEMS

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:25:03 2020 No.17092677

>>17092643
>Also you'll need to be constantly referring to the wikis and other resources
This is absolutely not necessary. If you feel like doing it, then do so, but the books have all the information you need. You just have to be an active and engaged reader. Taking notes does help, but I only took very light notes and did fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:25:09 2020 No.17092681 >>17092653 Be sure to be speculating a lot on /r/malazan as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:27:43 2020 No.17092700 >>17092643 lmao Malazan's wiki is so badly written and organized that anybody trying to use it as a reference would just get more confused, not less

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:27:51 2020 No.17092701 File: 209 KB, 510x346, 06a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17092677 "This is fine", he said.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:28:58 2020 No.17092708 >>17092700 That's reflective of its fanbase.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:29:25 2020 No.17092711

>>17092701
It's one of the most rewarding series I've ever read because it felt like putting together a jigsaw puzzle. The real pleb filter is book 5. That's where so many people give up, not able to deal with shifting between places and casts of characters any longer. They get too attached to a few characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:33:26 2020 No.17092742 >>17092210 >>17092335 fucking hell it genuinely took me like two minutes to figure out what was going on in those two scenes each. it hurts to be a brainlet.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:33:45 2020 No.17092748

>>17092708
People who make and maintain wikis are on the autism sprectrum, but that type of autism doesn't necessarily make one good at writing summaries of information, nor at organizing information. They've done a pretty good job documenting things from the books, which is what wiki autism is good for, but it's a huge pain in the ass to find anything and lots of useful pages are squirreled away in obscure spots for no particular reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:35:53 2020 No.17092759 >>17092708 Exactly my thoughts. The fan base is intelligent enough for needing a wiki.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:37:00 2020 No.17092769 >>17092742 his style especially in the later books is pretty esoteric, can be hard to figure out what exactly is happening

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:37:08 2020 No.17092770 >>17092310 I don't know what GRI is, please explain

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:38:37 2020 No.17092784 >>17092770 lurk before posting

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:39:14 2020 No.17092790 >>17092711 If you want a real jigsaw puzzle, read actual literary works. Malazan is more like putting back together a poorly made shattered vase.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:39:55 2020 No.17092792 >>17092790 Don't try to talk about something you've never read.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:40:20 2020 No.17092795 >>17092711 > not finnegans wake NGMI

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:41:01 2020 No.17092800 >>17092770 The holiest of stamps, the three greatest narrative contrivances.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:42:16 2020 No.17092807 >>17092795 >le namedrop dringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:42:51 2020 No.17092811 BOTNS, Malazan, and many others are all bad bad in the same way of MUH PUZZLES!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:43:52 2020 No.17092820 >>17092800 All 3 are boomer transgressions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:46:32 2020 No.17092834 >>17092784 Sorry, I should've completed the /sffg/ puzzle first before posting.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:48:44 2020 No.17092845

>>17092790
No not really. I majored in English lit, I have plenty of experience reading literary works, and critical theory about literature. What makes those books interesting is inherent ambiguity in the writing. This creates multiple layers of potential meaning and results in varied interpretations of the text. That kind of ambiguity doesn't really work for epic fantasy, it would actually be counter productive. With Malazan, it's not about being ambiguous or having multiple interpretations so much as it is being deluged with information and having to piece it together. This is why I use the metaphor of a jigsaw puzzle. With a jigsaw puzzle you often piece together small parts of the whole image in the process of creating the larger image. This is how it is reading Malazan. You find a few bits of information that let you understand some part of the world, only that understanding changes once you find the surrounding pieces to contextualize it. You sometimes see this style of writing in literary works, but never on the scale of Malazan, and never with a totally constructed setting. Malazan is able to do this across 10 huge books, each book being jam packed with pieces to the larger puzzle. You don't even really see the shape of the plot, that is, have enough pieces to figure out what the big picture is, until around book 8 or 9, depending on how close your reading is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:50:22 2020 No.17092856 >>17092845 You really enjoy obscurantism then, huh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:53:45 2020 No.17092892 >>17092845 Is the Furry Mage Pinocchio really dead? He was my favorite character.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:53:49 2020 No.17092893 >>17092845 What about the sequel series to Malazan and other Malazan books?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:55:01 2020 No.17092906 >>17092845 That sounds entirely like Sanderson's worldbuilding with the Cosmere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:55:35 2020 No.17092913 >>17092906 >That sounds entirely like Sanderson's worldbuilding with the Cosmere. LMAO

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:57:39 2020 No.17092928

>>17092856
Malazan is the furthest thing from obscurantism. Obscurantism is about trying to make simple ideas impossible to understand, Malazan simply throws a huge number of ideas at you in bits and pieces so that you gradually understand what's going on. Continuing to read while paying attention will allow you to figure it out, you don't have to "wrestle" with Malazan for understanding like with obscurantist texts. You just have to be patient and attentive. And of course, interested in the setting and the story. If you aren't curious you'd never put up with it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:00:59 2020 No.17092955

>>17092906
Hardly. Sanderson writes completely separate, disconnected stories with an underlying shared universe with shared metaphysics that eventually draws the disparate stories together as they get closer to the metaphysical level. Sanderson's project is building up a bunch of different lego sets and then gradually connecting them. Because they're all lego, their compatability is a foregone conclusion, even if they have apparently different aesthetics.

There might be some similarity in that you have to wait for him to finish building to figure out what he's building, but other than that their style of building a narrative is very different.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:01:08 2020 No.17092958 >>17092928 That seems more like a "guess the image" game than a jigsaw puzzle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:01:59 2020 No.17092966 >>17092958 No, it's pretty much exactly like doing a jigsaw puzzle that you don't know the image of. Because you understand it gradually and complete small pieces of it long before you have the whole image done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:04:34 2020 No.17092986 okay niggers, what does GRI stand for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:04:56 2020 No.17092987 >>17092966 Should more books do this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:06:39 2020 No.17093007 >>17092986 It's what your father did to you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:06:52 2020 No.17093009 >>17092986 Go Read Instead of asking dumb questions

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:07:12 2020 No.17093011

>>17092893
The ICE books aren’t as good because the writing isn’t on the same level, if you really like the Malazan world it fills out unanswered questions pretty well though. The Kharkanas books are 100% worth reading but they aren’t written in exactly the same way as the main 10 so if you were particularly attached to that writing then you may want to pass

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:09:01 2020 No.17093024 >>17092986 The highest heights of ecstasy! The three elements of woe!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:09:43 2020 No.17093029 Guns Rape Incest?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:10:05 2020 No.17093033 >>17092334 I don't know but he's nearly convinced me to read him

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:10:07 2020 No.17093034 >>17093024 It's GRIT now. Gay Rape Incest Trans

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:11:57 2020 No.17093044 >>17093034 It's TIGER now. Trans Incest Gay Ephebophilia Rape

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:13:09 2020 No.17093055 File: 61 KB, 800x600, GRI Approved seal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17093029 Almost there. Good job. >>17093034 Fuck, why did you have to give the whole game away? This image ought to be updated if that's actually the case.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:13:21 2020 No.17093057 >>17093044 Bakker's got you covered, plus aliens doing all of the above, plus cannibalism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:18:29 2020 No.17093093 >>17093055 It's not the case and GRI is entirely a meme. >>17093044 TIGER CUB KEKOLDING UXORICIDE BONDAGE

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:19:30 2020 No.17093103 >>17093093 or Cannibalism, whichever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:22:59 2020 No.17093122 It may be the end of the thread, but it's only the beginning of the archive, which is forever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:24:02 2020 No.17093132 >>17092892 Can some one please answer this? I did't read it past book 4.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:24:53 2020 No.17093138 >>17093132 You don't deserve the answers if you don't put in the work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:41:58 2020 No.17093283 >>17093138 >implying you know lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:50:03 2020 No.17093363 >>17093132 Are they talking about bottle?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:50:05 2020 No.17093364 is GRI supposed to mean that a book features characters engaging in relationships of each facet or does it mean that there is an incident of gay-rape-incest within a certain text?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:52:46 2020 No.17093388 >>17093364 It's whatever you want it to be. The guy also made a chart for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:57:01 2020 No.17093426 What are some jewish fantasy novels w/ jewish themes or written by jews? Really just asking.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:04:08 2020 No.17093472

>>17093426
A few seconds from using a search engine.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/19943.Best_Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy_by_Jewish_Authors
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/114070.Jewish_Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy
https://www.tor.com/2020/10/14/6-must-read-sff-books-by-jewish-authors-from-around-the-world/
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/sci-fi-fantasy/yes-virginia-there-is-a-jewish-narnia-5-fantasy-novels-with-jewish-themes/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:05:15 2020 No.17093482 >>17093472 I was hoping to get some recs from my /sffg/ bros but those links from tor and b&n will do just fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:06:02 2020 No.17093487 >>17093482 You expect too much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:14:02 2020 No.17093555 >>17093426 How would I even know unless they pasted AUTHORDE BY A JEW MAN across the cover?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:15:03 2020 No.17093561 >>17093487 shut the fuck up, nigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:15:41 2020 No.17093568 File: 11 KB, 1000x800, 1516303334603.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17093487 I always really do...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:35:41 2020 No.17093729 >>17093725 >>17093725 >>17093725

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