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1708284 No.1708284 [Reply] [Original]

What joy do you get from parenting something for 20 years?

Do you live for yourself or for others? A child is an unfixable mistake you will regret for the rest of your life.

>> No.1708290
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>> No.1708292

Is that what your mom tole you, tybrax? In your case, she's right, but it's not universal.

>> No.1708293

if you had a mother to hug you, I bet you'd feel differently

>> No.1708296

what's wrong ty??

>> No.1708301

I already have a son and am thinking about having 4 more as time goes on. Children are brats only if you are a bad parent.

>> No.1708307

>>1708301

>Children are brats only if you are a bad parent.

Wait until your kid comes of age and then come back and see if you're still saying this bullshit

>> No.1708308

>>1708301
And also, to answer OP, I have plenty of goals for myself, but I do care a lot about helping people as well. It would make me very proud to see something develop from something so small and helpless to something. I feel that my dad feel a little short, and I want to help give my kids a good future. I look back at myself when I was young and how I needed someone to help me reach my goals. I want to be the person who is out there for the little people who really want and need help. Children hold unlimited amounts of potential and it would make me happy to help them achieve what they can to the best of my ability.

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Tybrax does not care about black people.

>> No.1708313

>>1708290
I get it, its from the Truman show, so its okay for Capote to post it.

Regardless, Ty, what kind of poster on /lit/ do you really think has a 20 year old child? In any case, disregarding good parents, the ones that are bad have not been parents long enough to become bitter from it. Get some sense, kid.

>> No.1708319

>>1708308
>Children hold unlimited amounts of potential
You're delusional. They are just Altruist, pressured by society and peers to do 'the right thing'

They are easily influenced and disposable trash.

>> No.1708320

>>1708313
>didn't really get it

Welcome to 4chan

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>>1708319
I posted this. Trip wouldnt stay in the box with this skins quick reply or something. trying out Fx4.

Also someone with life experience help. I'm scared im biologically going to want children when im older and that this will automatically make me sad. help. help.

>> No.1708330

um isn't op the one who was asking people to be his "msn mom" or w/e

>> No.1708336

Raising a child is like leveling up a character in WoW:

First, you go pick a mate that will determine skin color and race for your character. You can also pick your mate based on hopes you have for facial features or eye color or hair color, but this is not so predictable.

Second, you keep finding excuses to abort or adopt until you have selected the gender you want.

Third, you need to make up your mind what class you want the child to be, and then make a leveling guide for the character while the game is loading (which will take 9 months), that will, if followed appropriately, make your character end up in the role you want at high level.

Fourth, you pick a name.

Fifth, you select starting region, and start leveling.

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ok reposting this,

Anyone want to be my msn parent?

things: like you can ask me how i slept after i wake up, make me cute loving pictures in ms paint, do nice things like that, special things, maybe recommend me short stuff to read before i go to bed., lots of smileys, kisses (xX xX), give me advice, let me whine and cry to you, write me things about why i am so special, etc, surprises too

: )

>> No.1708347

Ty.

TY

Mate with a brown woman. Mutts are smarter.

>> No.1708351

not going to mate....

>> No.1708356

>>1708351

Racist

>> No.1708357

The idea of conditioning a tiny human who will forever be trapped in the identity that results is fucking terrifying.

>> No.1708361

>>1708357
yes, breeders are truly disgusting people. i think its almost as sick as how egoistic the average person is.

>> No.1708369

Reproduction is your only purpose as far as anything matters in life.

>> No.1708370

>>1708357
Sounds like BNW.

>> No.1708375

>>1708370
or just, you know, parenting when you actually stop to think about it and dont think you're allowed to take w/e you want from _

>> No.1708376

>>1708369
>natural tendency
>purpose

>> No.1708379

>>1708369
you're probably the type of idiot that would cry if a family member died or be conflicted if they found out all their memories werent real

>> No.1708380

>>1708336

^

>> No.1708383

>>1708380
no one cares. and your example stinks. go fuck yourself. get out of this board.

>> No.1708385

>>1708383

But it was so great

>> No.1708388

>>1708385
no children isnt a game. ive heard it called hell. your example is bad, gtfo of here. how many children do you have are you in denial?

>> No.1708395

>>1708388

it was a joke you fucking twat, and a good one, stop being so srs and loosen up a little and gtfo with that "get out of mah board" thingy just cause you use a name

>> No.1708399

I think it's sick in certain circumstances.

Some people should have children, if they have the money and the time to do so.

Most don't, they rationalize that they're selfless by having children, but are really self-serving in that they do it to create meaning to fill in some missing part of their lives.

Some realize they only thought it was missing, some never do and remain delusional amidst the economic strain they've made for themselves, and for everyone else.

Lucky ones realize the emptiness will always remain, and some come to the conclusion that it's self-imposed, and that they misconstrued a lack of an ability for 'wholeness' to be suggestive of a current emptiness that some magical empowering super-emotion would fill. Or that's how I view it, anyway, but what do I know? Not much.

Mostly I was born to bad parents, and my view of a personality as mostly consequential makes me really disturbed by the idea of pushing the snowball down the hill and having no control whatsoever over how it forms (for the most part). Also, I can't imagine I'd ever NOT feel like some trickster or fake, if my children loved me, and were consoled by me, because really, it's an ignorance on their part and my part in it could be filled by whoever stepped in.

There's more to it, it's really loaded, but summed up well in "I can't imagine it, sorry." Luckily I'm practically sterile.

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>>1708395

>> No.1708413

If you don't reproduce, their lives and efforts of your ancestors would all be in vain.

>> No.1708414

>>1708399
Good post

>> No.1708418

grow up, all of you

>> No.1708420

>>1708418
>>1708418
cool argument. it almost sounds like 'someone' forgot their trip, thats how shitty your post is.

>> No.1708422

Whoops,
>>1708399
Was supposed to be a reply to
>>1708361

>> No.1708431

grow up, all of you

>> No.1708432

>>1708431
oh someone was dropping trip in another thread...

get the fuck out of my thread you fucked aspie bitch. seriously, delete that post and get of this board your posts are so boring. go away.

>> No.1708436

>>1708418
>>1708431

i knew it

>> No.1708438

>>1708436
me2 lol

>> No.1708442

>Do you live for yourself or for others?
only the alienated would ever understand the question. that it is possible to be alienated is a feature of evolution, but an unfortunate result nonetheless.

does this answer your question ty baby.

>> No.1708454

i told you to get out of my thread. i may as well filter you you're posts do stand out, but only because you're so full of yourself but also boring. i hope irl your a sad bitch and thats why youre on here acting like a retard all the time. i hope you get raped.

>> No.1708459

>>1708420

my argument is simple: your head is too far up your adolescent ass to have any depth of understanding or perspective on what parenting means. you're boring.

>> No.1708462

Even speaking as a confirmed lifelong sarcastic cynic, I can tell you that raising a child has been the most wonderful adventure I have ever been on. I haven't had a single moment of regret, or missed my non parental status, wouldn't trade it for anything. Frankly, if you're not a parent you just don't understand. Sorry but it's true. You may think "brats" and "breeders" and all that noise, but it just isn't like that at all. Yeah it's tough, but not as tough as half the other pointless crap you have to do in life.
OP makes the youthful mistake of thinking that living for yourself and living for others has to be different. Yeah, I live for my daughter, and one of the ways I do that is by living for myself and my family.

>> No.1708463

Please, no one have children. The world is full enough already. If you want a kid, adopt one. There are plenty waiting and its better to help some one who is already stuck here than to bring another life into this hellhole. Thank you.

>> No.1708468

>>1708463

please apply this logic to your posts

>> No.1708470

>>1708454
well, my argument more precisely stated is this. even though you may feel that parenting is not worth anything, the knowledge that this particular conclusion of yours is limited, and you will change your mind if you have the unalienated characteristic experience, should still be meaningful. for instance, you would not need to pose the question to anyone, but only yourself. maybe you can find a way of getting out of your current state of mind too

>> No.1708477

your argument is basically, 'if you were me, you wouldnt even be asking this'. go away.

>> No.1708481

>>1708463
rofl

>> No.1708485

>>1708477

behold the the arrogant bore. your ideas elicit embarrassment and not admiration, you know that, right?

>> No.1708487

>>1708477
yea sure and that means you are just the same. it is just a pool of self hurring and you gotta accept that.

>> No.1708489

so is onionface dropping trip anytime she wants to be mean or like does she have a tag-along friend or something?

>>1708487
no because people have argued the opposite above, you're the only one whose argument is 'if you were me, you'd see' apart from parent loser.

>> No.1708496

>>1708485
yeah but i dont think im so cool and i deserve the world and i should be loved by everyone i meet like a god, unlike someone....

>> No.1708498

next best thing to cloning

>> No.1708500

>>1708498
Your input is always valued.

>> No.1708506

>>1708500
no need to state the obvious...

>> No.1708507

Intellectually I hate the idea of having a child but I can only imagine I would love it soo much. Maybe that's part of the reason I hate it.

>> No.1708511

What's uncool about parenting? You have a little mini version of yourself that you get to hang out with & teach how to be a badass. That sounds like fun.

>> No.1708512

So, we're coming back from some crazy bowling birthday party, I'm at the wheel and she's in the backseat. It's quiet, and we're driving down the roads of our own thoughts, feeling contemplative. Eventually she says to me "Dad, you know when they say 'He knows every trick in the book'? You know that saying?"
"Yeah, I know that saying", I answer.
"Well", she says with an edge of determination, "I want that book."

>> No.1708514

>>1708507
What I mean to say is, I hate the idea of me having a child, even though I'm sure I'd love the whole experience, which is part of why I hate it, Or something

>> No.1708516

>>1708511
>You have a little mini version of yourself that you get to hang out with & teach how to be a badass.
>teach how to be a badass.
what hanging out on /lit/ at the weekend?

>> No.1708517

"I have a sixth sense about these things," said Grandad. Then he turned to Madeline and asked "Do you know what 'sixth sense' is?"
"Yeah," she said with her mouth full," a nickel and a penny."

>> No.1708519

>>1708516

No, I was thinking more like teach it to build sandcastles & stuff.

>> No.1708524

>>1708489
1. i did not drop trip i just played with your image of me
2. that is not the argument actually. when my system is better constructed i can prove the actual argument. it is posteriori but necessary.

>> No.1708531

>i did not drop trip
>>1708436

>i just played with your image of me
the only image i have of you is a shitty philo student who hopefully doesnt get a job she likes and is a loser and spends alot of her free time here. also you are weak and thin and could probably be beaten to death really easily. are you even allowed to go out drinking? if you slipped you might die, LOL. if a ken kaliff came out of the bushes on the way home from uni you'd probably die.

>that is not the argument actually. when my system is better constructed i can prove the actual argument. it is posteriori but necessary.
ok your thesis is going to suck you are not a thinker, you're just going to look at _ philosophers from a different angle what a waste of 4 years higher education. i bet even if you posted it here people would rip you apart. i dont even think you're the best student in your year group, even though you're on here alot. so really just a lame aspie bitch that i dont think has ever made a post that i laughed at. just boring and condescending on 4chan on all places. you're just a sad low life.

>> No.1708535

>>1708531

i am the anon who posted the first "grow up, all of you."

i think the other tripfag was playing with you. plus, you're dense.

>> No.1708536

>>1708531
you realize truman is an idiot of the nth degree right.

>> No.1708538

>>1708531
>are you even allowed to go out drinking?
unfortunately no :D

>> No.1708542

>>1708535
>01:10
>>1708536
>01:10
you two have a very weird rhythm. and similar vocab...

>>1708538
tell us more about what a loser you are.

>> No.1708545

yeah that was a pretty pathetic attempt to save face....

>> No.1708546

>>1708542
>and similar vocab...

i'm well-educated. and you?

>> No.1708565

btwwwww, although i am perfectly satisfied with the name-calling from a judgement of character and attitude of the subjects in question (such as truman), i am sorry if the behavior has contributed to the decline of discourse content.

my confession for today.

>> No.1708570

cant you tell us more irl problems that you have since now alot of people will think of you are more of a geek after this thread?

>> No.1708573

>>1708570
i am a geek and i love it. it is part of my life, just as watching stupid korean dramas and playing with dolls.

>> No.1708585

ugh you guys overrate me. im not really that bad, just i dont take 6 months or whatever to be honest about my circumstances...

>> No.1708586

>>1708573
Who doesn't like k-drama??

>> No.1708591

I want kid so he have my ideas and he always love me (or she)

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>>1708585
don't worry ty you'll never make me hate you.

>> No.1708596

so youre not annoyed everyone knows you're a loser and that you dropped trip and then failed to trick anyone you were too separate posters?

>> No.1708599

Can you tripfucks just have a goddamn conversation? No one wants to read your little bitch arguments.

>> No.1708602

>>1708596
>loser
>best philosopher of the young century

try again

>> No.1708606

but.... i already commented on your shitty final degree paper thing.

>> No.1708607

>>1708602
>onionring
>best philosopher of the young century

try again

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1708608

everybody
hates
onionring

>> No.1708609

my hemorrhoid itches (fuck yeah spelled hemorrhoid perfectly on first try)

>> No.1708612

yeah at least i dont think d&e would have a heart attack if i tapped his ribs with my fist. LOL

>> No.1708616

>>1708612
Everyone here's seen his bod, it's rock-hard

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guess i better act pissed to entertain the boys. hurr

>> No.1708622

>>1708607
dont worry little boy your vision is perfectly superceded by mine.

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>>1708616
>his bod
hey look isabelle dropped trip to give d&e a compliment.

also no one likes you onionface, go to your cold bed where all your little asian post-hiroshima-degeneration dolls are to keep you company.

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>>1708619
>>1708622

Watching you humiliate your lonely, autistic self neurotically trying to place yourself on a superior position to everyone else is entertainment enough, smellyhole.

>> No.1708636

>>1708622
>your vision is perfectly superceded by mine
>doesn't even know critical theory

My vision would have to be pretty goddamn nearsighted

>> No.1708642

>>1708636
heyyyyy, what do you think i am doing. i am giving a foundation for critical theory.

>> No.1708644

>>1708632
>place
when wittgenstein saw his work as a ladder did he place himself above it, or did he climb up

>> No.1708653

>too mad to reply
lol bitch cant believe how much she's embarrassing herself tonight.

i think she probs has no friends irl or she wouldnt get so involved and annoying by truman, i mean its way past the stage where she can pretend its amusement.

>> No.1708657

>what do you think i am doing
synthesising hypochondriac western wills to systems with oriental gobbledygook and other such trifles. maybe the next big thing seeing as we are running in circles here in the west in both analytic and continental, and comparative phil. is the only area to wring new outlooks from but still shortsighted.

>> No.1708662

yea, no.

anyways has been fun toddles gotta watch more kdrama. for research of course.

>> No.1708663

huh i don't think i left the vacuum cleaner running all the white noise must be coming from this godforsaken thread

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>>1708644

You don't climb, onion. You expect people to take you seriously when all you do is harass others with dull one liners or deliberately confusing and directionless arguments.

Everybody has to feel superior to somebody, but it's customary to present a little proof before you take the privilege.

>> No.1708670

>>1708657
lrn2writecoherently

>> No.1708673

ITT: huttburt tripfags arguing about stupider things than one might find on /b/

>> No.1708678

d&e why are you a philosophy weaboo?

>> No.1708679

>>1708666
well i tried to respond but then i got distracted by how awesome i am. sorry

>> No.1708682

>>1708657

I dunno man, what about the whole 'speculative realism' that's emerging in post-continental philosophy? It looks pretty interesting/promising. You familiar with it at all?

>> No.1708687

I miss you Ty :D

>> No.1708688

>>1708679
>says she's leaving
>stays to reply
thats unhealthy. i have no respect for you at all anymore.

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>>1708679

Go and enjoy your cartoons, smellyhole.

Even i'm starting to feel embarrassed for you.

>> No.1708695

>>1708682
I'm not, although I have Ray Brassier and his 'Nihil Unbound' on my reading list.

willing to bet it's just another post-cartesian convulsion in the history of western thought though

>> No.1708701

>>1708662
What k-drama would you recommend?

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>>1708687
hey, i know i feel /lit/ maybe moves to slow. so like if i want time to move faster i cant go on /lit/ much. i need to maybe stop this though as i cant wait for professionals all my life theyre too busy. i should meetup with the 40 yr old craigslist guy but im still scared right now i need a rough night or something to happy to get the courage.

i made this thread at the same time as this one:
>>>/adv/5693741

>> No.1708715

shy boy : girl :: speculative realism : the world

>> No.1708716

ty are you a virgin?

>> No.1708717

>>1708701
im watching this http://www.dramacrazy.net/korean-drama/secret-garden/ and it's pretty good so far.

>> No.1708718

>>1708717
That sounds interesting/amusing, thanks

>> No.1708721

you expect way too much of me. but i guess its cos you couldnt imagine not having done the most basics things yourself.

>> No.1708728

>>1708695

I've just started that the other day actually, and it's nothing special yet, but I'm gonna give it more of a chance.

I got Graham Harman's Circus Philosophicus to read as well though which looks much more intriguing.

>> No.1708733

it's almost 2:30am bro, get some sleep.

>> No.1708778

gnight tripfriends

>> No.1708802

>>1708778
g'night

>> No.1709516

also bump

>> No.1709523

I fully plan to eat any progeny
It's them or me

>> No.1709525

>>1708284
Who is that in your picture, OP?

>> No.1709526

>>1709523
But you're a fag. Ass doesn't spawn babies, genius.

>> No.1709529

>>1709526
I think the only gay tripfriend is the real Fab.
I just look gay.

>> No.1709533

is the real fab on holiday?

>> No.1709535

>>1709529
No, you look like you have AIDS.

Lots of hetero guys caught AIDS, although they were admittedly in the minority.

>> No.1709560

>>1709535
Oh. Well I got tested just maybe 6 months ago and I was clear of HIV and syphilis.

>>1709533
I don't think so. I talked with him maybe today or yesterday. Can't remember. I see you're looking for a parent. Don't you have parents at home?

>> No.1709824

>>1709560
i do have parents but i dont love them. so i need to replace them for affectionate stuff.

>> No.1709834

>>1709824
i'm sure you don't mean that

>> No.1709836

>>1709834
idk. i cant trust them. i would much rather get this stuff from someone else. it would be much less painful. once i get that counsellor back ill see what she thinks. but that might be weeks. i should maybe just meetup with 40yr old guy and trade sex for hugs???

>> No.1709852

>>1709836
Golly I wish you'd actually do that.
Nothing in this world would make me laugh harder
than hearing that you
fucked
a 40 yr. old man
for hugs.

>> No.1709855

yeah behemoth was xD last night when i pretended to him i did :/

i dont know. i should maybe set a date for if i still havent heard anything i cant keep waiting for professionals.

>> No.1709856

>>1708673

FOR TRUTH

>> No.1709859

but there is no anon as smart as d&e

and no tripfag as dumb as anon

>> No.1709869

>>1709859
>no tripfag as dumb as anon
let me doubt it.