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Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:31:25 2020 No.17081548 [Reply] [Original]

I’m done with the fucking gay emo shit here. Post uplifting lit that could convince you to die in battle from its words.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h16GjypK1E0

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:50:52 2020 No.17081609 >>17081548 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjR0B79Mz1w&ab_channel=AnaalNathrakh-Topic I assume you want music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:59:52 2020 No.17081632 File: 241 KB, 1200x974, shakespeare-finaljpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Go read the Saint Crispin's Day Speech.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:10:05 2020 No.17081664 >>17081609 Any form of kit is fine, so songs, poems, plays, books, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:29:59 2020 No.17081718 >>17081548 Infinite Jest

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:42:33 2020 No.17081752 >>17081632 Based and shakespilled. Makes me proud to be English and in the military when I read that speech. Thank you for reminding me friend

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:46:23 2020 No.17081765 >>17081752 I'm actually American but I have it memorized and can recite it. I don't care what anyone says, I love Hal, he is legitimately one of Shakespeare's great characters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:49:47 2020 No.17081775 File: 86 KB, 658x901, 1537652920695.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17081609 I don't like this because it's too noisy and hard to hear what he's saying. It's nicer than the rougher stuff though. I will try listen.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:51:24 2020 No.17081781
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>William Wallace (1270- 1305) from the film Braveheart. The title Braveheart actually refers to the other great Scottish Hero, King Robert Bruce. So the title was the first thing that had to go. There isn't really a poetic title attached to Wallace. He does in one source appear to describe himself as "William the Conqueror" but since that name is already taken by a much more successful conquerer of the same name, I thought that might cause confusion. Instead I opted for his name in Norman French - The language of the aristocracy. We don't seem to know much about William's family, but he apparently he came from minor nobility. He rose to greatness after his victory at Stirling Bridge. He was knighted and proclaimed Guardian of Scotland. We don't know what shield William Wallace carried into battle. I have opted to give him the Wallace family coat of arms, that appears to enter the historical record in the 15th century. I have redesigned it, to look more appropriate for the late 13th century. Braveheart carries a great-sword. 15th century in type with some fantasy leather embellishments. Two-handed swords were not unknown in the late 13th century. But they were not on the scale of the great swords of the 15th century and were very different aesthetically. Instead, I have given him a spear and single handed sword. Weapons typical of the period. There is a famous two-handed sword attributed to Wallace, which is housed at the Wallace monument. There is no real evidence to link this sword with Wallace and the sword in its current state dates from at least 250 years after Wallace. It is possible that part of the sword blade could have been made from an earlier 13th Century sword. The tartan kilt is something that emerged in the Scottish Highlands after the 15th century. As a Scottish Lowlander, William Wallace would not have dressed differently to his Anglo-Norman counterparts. Chainmail is tightly fitted and covers the whole of the body. He wears a close-fitting steel secret helm on his head, and over this a mail coif. Over his mail he wears a long surcoat. Ailettes are laced to his shoulders in a typical late 13th /early14th century fashion. I'd like to thank Tobias Bleckert for allowing me to use his pictures of his costume. And also the amazing Isak Krogh Hantverk that allowed me to use pictures of his amazing 13th century tailored chainmail reproduction. Check out his work.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 04:01:41 2020 No.17081817 >>17081781 I don't think the movie makers cared for historical accuracy at all. they made a kick-ass movie about tyranny and values.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 04:02:48 2020 No.17081821 >>17081817 More like propaganda for American nation-building mythos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 04:10:09 2020 No.17081843 >>17081821 Mel Gibson sure has stong opinions on patriotism and religion (his bio being another topic), but you can watch Braveheart from any political point of view and have your ideology untouched after leaving the cinema. deserved Oscar desu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 04:56:51 2020 No.17081980 >>17081775 Just wait for the chorus, it's about 1 minute in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 05:20:17 2020 No.17082073 >>17081843 I like Mel Gibson. Don't like the vulgar propaganda common to American film and videogames.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:02:11 2020 No.17082222 >>17081548 A bit weird only about 100 people alive today have actually read his book.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:07:05 2020 No.17082242

>>17081781
He wasn't executed for killing hundreds of thousands of English adult males. He was executed, falsely, for being disloyal to Edward I.
And that armour doesnt seem accurate since the armour he had was plate armour he took from a dead englishman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:08:21 2020 No.17082246 >>17082242 >>He wasn't executed for killing hundreds of t >>17081781 Also why is his name in French? That's very strange. It just seems whoever edited that poster was just trying to be as anti-scottish as they could.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:20:47 2020 No.17082291 File: 22 KB, 225x346, 518MvbFy+5L._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17081548

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:25:49 2020 No.17082315 >>17081548 >that could convince you to die in battle from its words. You're looking for music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:29:00 2020 No.17082326 >>17081548 Unironically Shogun. I got really sucked into the whole honorable, facing death head on instead of with fear thing. When Blackthorne tried to commit Seppuku, I felt that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdmhyEqCINM&ab_channel=Noz

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:04:21 2020 No.17082449 >>17082222 checked. what book?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:14:23 2020 No.17082721

>>17082246
>It just seems whoever edited that poster was just trying to be as anti-scottish as they could.
In hindsight, it seem so. I think the artist is English and into history, naturally autism ensues from such close to home squabbling.

>Also why is his name in French?
Perhaps because William Wallace is a later rendition of the name and not the ones he used though basically equivalent. Perhaps the French one is the one he mainly used, it seems probable because Norman French acted as a more standardised interlang for the nobility, relatively rigid compared to the wide plurality of language falling under 'English' at the time. Maybe not though as I don't think he wouldn't spoken Norman French natively. Or perhaps it seemed more title-like. Or perhaps the artist wanted to disassociate any distinct Scottishness.

>And that armour doesnt seem accurate since the armour he had was plate armour he took from a dead englishman.
Source? As far as I know the exact outfit of historical figures is rarely known which is why this artist selects what would've been typical at the time and place as far as evidence permits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:15:25 2020 No.17082726 >>17082242 >Source? >>17082721

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 12:04:47 2020 No.17083765 >>17081548 Based

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 12:08:22 2020 No.17083792 >>17081821 We just love any story about kicking the Brit’s ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:02:25 2020 No.17084142 File: 140 KB, 1440x1440, 0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17083792 True.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:27:08 2020 No.17084356 >>17081609 >>17081548 https://youtu.be/UwLtyvGdNbc

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