A Christmas Carol

[Anonymous No.17080728]

Am I correct in reading A Christmas Carol as a major pagan work? Scrooge's change of characters comes from four spirits (Marley, Past, Present, and Future), and spirits aren't unique to Christian belief.

The end of the story ends in a weird kind of materialism. Scrooge becomes giving, and he gives Christmas joy through the things he gives people. However Scrooge's redemption is not through learning to be a better man just because it is the right thing to do; he learns to be a better man because:

A) He fears being inconsequential after his death.
B) He gets over his grief by not marrying the love of his life.
C) And he connects himself to the present world through being giving to the Cratchet family in particular.

But none of these things are Christian at their root.

>hur dur why bring up Christianity

Because I'm a Christian and I like a Christmas Carol and I think this merits a good discussion around Christmas time.

[Anonymous No.17080773]

Giving charity to the needy is quite Christian

[Anonymous No.17080783]

>>17080773
>Giving charity to the needy Christians is quite Christian
ftfy

[Anonymous No.17080788]

Well, it's not called a Hanukkah Carol, so what does that tell you?

[Anonymous No.17080792]

>>17080788
>Christmas Carol
>Has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, Our Lord & Saviour

[Anonymous No.17080804]

>>17080792
Jew... Jew wonder Jew could Jew Jewhind Jew Jew.

[Anonymous No.17080806]

Christianity, like many things, has very little uniqueness to it.
Scrooge knew that he was connected to the death of tiny tim, and it is generally portrayed in that regard that while scrooge wishes to not have a terrible fate for himself, the fate of tim is something he considers for its own sake. While he fears his punishment, he also pursues good for its own sake in the case of tim.

[Anonymous No.17080807]

Am I drunk? I'm not sure where I'm posting this.

[Anonymous No.17080849]

>>17080804
https://www.deviantart.com/uthp/gallery/74409255/ant-farm

[Anonymous No.17080896]

>A Christmas Carol is pagan because the plot relies on receiving moral guidance from personal ghosts.
This is actually a based take.

[Anonymous No.17081863]

>>17080783
lol what? Are you sure you're not secretly jewish?

[Anonymous No.17081877]

>>17080728
Ebenezer jew

[Anonymous No.17083366]

>>17080728
This is a very good reading. You should consider writing an essay on it.

[Anonymous No.17083583]

>>17080728
I like this a lot. The Ghost of Christmas present is very much a pagan diety. I think in general the British isles have a lot of little pagan stories and traditions that have snuck through over the years, and while at times there is a strong strain of puritanism, sometimes their own Christian faith is kept at arms length.

[Anonymous No.17083786]

>"God bless us, every one!"
what

[Anonymous No.17083825]

>>17083786
Classic use of the word 'God' but never thankful to Christ. God is a placeholder that could even mean Satan. You assume they mean the one true God, as part of the Trinity, but that's the assumption.

[Anonymous No.17083839]

>>17083825
It's a primarily Christian phase. (Numbers 6:24)

Heres another reference to Christ and Christianity.

>“As good as gold,” said Bob, “and better. Somehow he gets thoughtful, sitting by himself so much, and thinks the strangest things you ever heard. He told me, coming home, that he hoped the people saw him in the church, because he was a cripple, and it might be pleasant to them to remember upon Christmas Day, who made lame beggars walk, and blind men see.”

[Anonymous No.17083862]

>>17083839
more

>Why did I walk through crowds of fellow-beings with my eyes turned down, and never raise them to that blessed Star which led the Wise Men to a poor abode! Were there no poor homes to which its light would have conducted me?

>“to make some slight provision for the poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time.”

>“But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round—apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that—as a good time

Many such cases