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A most conspicuous common denominator of the utterly anti-Christian, Catholicism, and the exquisitely Christian, Gnosticism, is the absence of analysis of the relation between the body and the world. God-Self, God-body, God-world, Self-body, Self-world analysis abounds, but body-world is thrown in the analytic garbage by both parties, either through the "pagan" chute by Catholics, nonsense about their common origin and end, or the "modern" one by Gnostics, nonsense about objects moving through mediums. Body and world are reluctantly, or perhaps perversely, made one and the same. In this case, intellectual bankruptcy is the only thing both parties argue for. Despite the rebuke of both body and world being Rationally and Scripturally sound, neither measure can make one rebuke both of them at once, despite how alluring it seems. It is not even that either is less objectionable than the other, that an otherwise satisfactory argument is foiled by disparate affective leftovers, that their relation itself is deprived of the good of Logic, quite the contrary, that them being irreconcilable even in argument despite being of endless negative value suggests the gravity of their difference and the conspiracy of their relation. Tangentially, it also suggests Monadic Evil, another exclusively Christological idea. One aspect of the Self-world relation is the eternal now and eternal here, any prescience of reading this text or lack thereof does not change the fact that one is reading it here and now, Time and Space merely telescopically expanding therefrom to no effect. This is ostensibly alleviated by the Self-body relation in there being no bodily equivalent to the worldly here and now, in that inasmuch as one is fixed to and in the world one is not fixed to and in the body, even sensuously, never mind Consciously. Suppose that the world is Golgotha and the body is the cross, that death switches the Self-world and Self-body relations so that one is no longer eternally here and now inasmuch as the bodily equivalent thereof, which does not exist proper, now fixes him to and in the body. His feet no longer touch Golgotha, only the cross. Death in the vulgar sense, perhaps its most authentic one, is an apotheosis of the body. Nowhere in bodily analysis is the Self necessary or even tolerated. It being one and the same with the body is it not being. Suppose that neither the world alone nor the body alone are strong enough to destroy one's Self, that it takes their joint thermodynamic sleight of hand, the world's excess of arrest and the body's lack thereof, to make one either fixed to or dissipated into (same difference) the latter after being released by the former. Suppose that those ignorant of the body-world relation literally die, "released" into their death by taking the first deathly experience as the only one, the anti-Christ as an intrapersonal event. The true end of both body and world being an operation of utmost precision, not a bestial spasm.

>> No.17076856

>>17076853

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Though the totality of the body-world relation is very difficult to explain, major inferences can be made from the Gnostic-Catholic conflict unknowingly aligning itself therewith: the Reason of triumphant Resurrection vs. the body on the cross as an icon of affective pornography, distinguishing the all but identical all the more vs. submitting to positive obscurantism, Dialectical Monism vs. unipolar or bipolar Relativism, the Noumenal consecrating the Phenomenal by destroying it vs. the Phenomenal destroying the Noumenal by being consecrated thereby, man eating lion vs. lion eating man.

>> No.17076866

>>17076853
>Katniss, I turned my self into a rock
>IM ROCK PETA!

>> No.17076891

>>17076853
>the utterly anti-Christian, Catholicism, and the exquisitely Christian, Gnosticism,
two retards fighting

>> No.17076967

>>17076853
>NO MY HERETICAL SECT IS THE TRUE CHRISTIANITY
Just stop

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You're just jealous that YOU don't belong to the One True Church of Jesus Christ.

>> No.17078890

my self-bum farts in the direction of your self-body, breathe the stank of my gaseous archons