/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17076641]

Any books that will help me finally make sense of what I should do with my life?

Every day is an existential crisis and I’m approaching old age.

[Anonymous No.17076647]

Let me guess, you’re 19

[Anonymous No.17076668]

>>17076641
A book can't give you an objective answer as to what your particular history, context, environment, and genetic disposition within our current era should be. But some books that may help you are:
>How to Read a Book
>Make it Stick
>Atomic Habits
>Deep Work
I'd suggest a general history of philosophy and the western cannon book as well, but this is a completely subjective recommendation because you are on /lit/.
But as far as the tactile material needs of what you should be doing as far as writing/learning to code/becoming a carpenter/learning about spread sheets, all these are things you need to decide based on where you are in life right now. No one cares enough about you to make these choices for you. You have to do it. Once you do, you can go find 20 books on carpentry on lib gen and learn the ins and outs of the entire skill set. But it's no one else's job but yours to choose. Once you do choose others are out there to help you on your journey.

[Anonymous No.17076674]

pic related will take the pressure off. then you just have to read the stoics

[Anonymous No.17076680]

>>17076647
I’m 27. I’ll be 28 in April.

[Anonymous No.17076685]

>>17076674
I think this book is not good desu. I question if you’ve even read it. It’s touted around here as like doomer /lit/ by people I’m absolutely certain haven’t even read it.

[Anonymous No.17076779]

>>17076674
don't read this it's a demonic book

[Anonymous No.17076909]

>>17076680
Get out of the internet, gramps.

[Anonymous No.17076922]

>>17076909
This is a 25+ board, anon.

[Anonymous No.17076925]

>>17076641
read quran

[Anonymous No.17076926]

>>17076641
12 rules for life

[Anonymous No.17076931]

>>17076909
Did you even read the OP?

[Anonymous No.17076938]

>>17076779
this

>>17076674
stop recommending brutal shit to kids

[Anonymous No.17077014]

>>17076922
So this board is for the already decayed who didn't live their dreams? Guess I'll show myself out, then. See you guys tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.17077050]

>>17076647
18
dabs

[Anonymous No.17077619]

>>17076641
Read Franny and Zooey and learn to love the world and the people in it. If you never find success or love for yourself you can still be a witness to other people's triumphs and tragedies and you may finally come to understand what it is that you actually want. Once you know what you want, you have at least an opportunity to seek it out

[Anonymous No.17077656]

I just read this man's magnum opus and then stopped giving a shit.

[Anonymous No.17077717]

>>17076938
>stop recommending brutal shit to kids
The Denial of Death is uplifting and freeing if you read it a certain way. This is even discussed in the introduction to later editions, I believe.
You can live a life without regret and false dreams of immortality if you take the correct message from the book. It allows you to laser focus on the things that actual "give your life meaning" even if those things must be acknowledged as "vital lies." It frees you from loss and failure, knowing that this life is short and none of your disappointments will change the fact that death is approaching, and becoming immortalized is an impossible dream.
For a certain type of aspirational dreamer creative type, this book is essential. The alternative is a lifetime of guilt and regret. Our culture lies about the importance of greatness and glory. There is no value to what the crowd says or remembers about you. Nor whatever cause you dedicate yourself to. All is pointless vanity and great fear. Life can be better enjoyed and much more calm when the Denial of Death is acknowledged and understood. IMHO. I loved the book

[Anonymous No.17077726]

>>17076680
>I'm approaching old age
>I'm 27
Are you literally retarded?

[Anonymous No.17077728]

>>17077656
I’ve already read this

[Anonymous No.17077731]

I've been here since I was 15. I am now 21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6zhuFAoC6Y

[Anonymous No.17077740]

>>17077726
I’m obviously being dramatic but 27 is most definitely approaching 30, which I think can be said to be past one’s prime, certainly youth. Just look at history. To be 27 and have never done anything of note and have no sense of direction is not desirable. Learn from that if you get nothing else from this thread.

[Anonymous No.17077790]

>>17077740
I mean, I assumed you at least had a legitimate career or something? 30 is just the beginning of the prime of life if you're a financially independent man with a solid income.

[Anonymous No.17077794]

>>17077790
If you're a woman, disregard.

[Anonymous No.17077852]

>>17077731
i also browsed 4chan near 15, im 27 now, sometimes take breaks from 4chan but inevitably i always return because some people on here are based

[Anonymous No.17077854]

>>17077740
No dude. 30-35 is the prime of a man's life. You still have the virility of youth and some wisdom. Most productive and growthful part of my life

[Anonymous No.17077881]

>>17077790
I graduated 3 years ago and have been working a low end analyst job. I don’t care about my career in the slightest anyway and being financially independent is not my main concern. I want a life that’s worth living, or at least that’s worth bearing.

>>17077854
You can’t even join the military as cannon fodder at 35

[Anonymous No.17077889]

>>17077740
Wrong. Thirties and early 40s are the time of a man's life. This is when you still have much energy left and is mature enough. A 35yo man can easily poach 25yo females from other 25yos. You will not have the energy of a 18yo twinkie, of course, and you won't be able to party as hard. But if you are in good shape and have some money, prepare to enjoy it.

t. /lit/'s only 52 old

[Anonymous No.17077898]

>>17077889
i admire old people on 4chan, because i know I will be one later. based boomer. give book tips to your past 27yr old self and i will read it

[Anonymous No.17077899]

>>17077881
>join the military
Why would you want to waste your life in the military?

[Anonymous No.17077903]

>>17077899
he probably watches cringey figures like jocko willink, willing to bet

[Anonymous No.17077923]

>>17077889
Neither income nor getting girls are that important to me in and of themselves and I don’t see this changing.

>>17077899
I think there are admirable things about the military but that wasn’t even my point so it’s irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.17077948]

>>17076685
Yeah I think so too

[Anonymous No.17077969]

>>17077740
>>17077790
>>17077854
>>17077889

You peak at 25, physically. There's no denying this. "approaching 25 year old girls at 35" is easy, yes, because they are morons. But at that age you should have started a family. It goes to show how immature these replies are if that is what they believe a 35 year old man should be doing.
OP is correct is being concerned about his trajectory. You are about to fall. Think critically about how and where you are going to settle down, and with whom. Put a huge emphasis on income and stability, and remember a hot+dumb female will bring a host of problems into your life, not including her daily failures to perform her duties and her likely dysfunctional extended family, which will become your problem. A wise man will find an accountant with a big ass and get an easy government job. A fool will try "looksmaxing on HB 10s dread game First day lay body cringe based redpill" idiocy

[Anonymous No.17077978]

>>17077889
lmao

[Anonymous No.17077981]

>>17077923
Kid, let me tell you something. Yes, if you haven't figured out something to do by the time you're 27 you probably won't go down in history. But let me tell you a second truth: it doesn't matter, because you weren't going to no matter what. Yes, yes, you're sad because you haven't developed extraordinary artistic, intellectual or life skills. If you're feeling anxious due to your future prospects you're realizing you're going to die and that you need to do something about it before time's up. I strongly recommend you (you too >>17077898) to read Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling, and, if you find that to be helpful, The Sickness Unto Death. I would have loved to have been introduced to these texts back when I was in my mid to late twenties. But tell me some details. You say women nor income worry you. That's fair enough. But what have you studied at university? What do you wish you had studied instead? What are some other skills you wish you could have developed before?

[Anonymous No.17077995]

>>17077969
>But at that age you should have started a family.
cope harder christiancuck

[Anonymous No.17078037]

>>17077995
I am a third generation atheist with kids. Christianity was never on my radar and never will be. You should still have a family, unless you're a loser, then don't

[Anonymous No.17078038]

>>17077969
I don’t care about any of this. I mean, I do care but it’s not that important.

>>17077981
Anon, I think you’re wrong about some stuff but I’m not trying to go down in history or something anyway. That’s not for me to decide and never has been.

As for your questions
> But what have you studied at university?
Economics.
>What do you wish you had studied instead?
Nothing really. Maybe something literature related but I also don’t think it matters very much. I’d have just as well not attended at all.
>What are some other skills you wish you could have developed before?
Like I said, I don’t have any particular career ambitions and never have so I don’t really have any. Reading and writing is important so that if it counts I guess.

I realize the first thing you’re going to criticize me for is my lack of interest or value in these things but this has been the case for a long time and I sincerely do not believe I can be any other way. These things simply all feel rather unimportant and that’s just how it is.

[Anonymous No.17078049]

>>17078037
Thinking one should have a family by the time they're twenty five is peak Christian cuckoldry regardless of what your internal set of beliefs are.

[Anonymous No.17078051]

>>17077881
Wether or not i could qualify for 11b was not one of my worries at 30. "Should i go back to school or buy a nicer house?" Was where my head was at

[Anonymous No.17078054]

>>17078051
Your point?

[Anonymous No.17078064]

>>17078038
I'm not going to criticize you at all, I was simply interested in getting to know you a bit better. If you say you have no interests nor seems to be interested in being interested at all, I can't help you and I think no amount of reading will. There is no writer who will be able to pull you out of your apathy and inject energy into your brain. When I asked you about skills you replied about "careers". I didn't ask you about future professional prospects, I just wanted to get a sense of what you are able to do or you wish you could do.

[Anonymous No.17078116]

>>17078064
I mean, I have interests. I have certain affinities. But when people talk to me about what I should be doing it’s always something about career, income, etc. and I just have never once in my life felt like my career is particularly important or worth funneling my life into. The mundanity and overwhelming profanity that comes with my current life as a corporate wage slave. Frankly, I hate the person I am and have to be at “work” and I don’t want to spend a life time being that person. He should cease to exist if that’s all he is if you ask me. The rest of these affinities, whether you call them interests, hobbies, whatever just sincerely do not feel that important. It’s hard to put my finger on but I just have this sense that I’m not doing what I’m supposed to be doing with my life and yet I don’t know what that thing I’m supposed to be doing is. Maybe I’m poisoned by fiction, anime, video games or something but I don’t know. It’s been an overwhelming sense for over 10 years of my life now and I suspect it won’t be going away any time soon.

[Anonymous No.17078151]

>>17078116
Hi welcome to the underclass, the world's not made for you, enjoy.

[Anonymous No.17078178]

>>17078116
If you like wallowing in pain may I interest in you reading Fernando Pessoa's poem "The Tobacco Shop"? Here's a translated excerpt that I found online:

>I failed in everything.
>Since I had no ambition, perhaps I failed in nothing.
>I left the education I was given,
>Climbing down from the window at the back of the house.
>I went to the country with big plans.
>But all I found was grass and trees,
>And when there were people they were just like the others.
>I step back from the window and sit in a chair. >What should I think about?

[Anonymous No.17078186]

>>17078178
Nice

[Anonymous No.17078195]

>>17076641
Nabokov’s The Gift

[Anonymous No.17078198]

>>17076641
Only you can help yourself. But here are some little things to get your almonds percolating:
>everyone who's thirty-five wishes they had started seriously pursuing what they care about when they were 27 or 28. You long for people 21 again. 35 year-olds long to be you.
>everyone your age and younger is racing into a void of internet addiction where all information is going to be tightly controlled by largely unseen forces and algorithms, so opinions, perspectives, and understanding of things is narrowing rapidly. Recognizing this, you can avoid it and nurture your intelligence without falling into the trap that 90%+ of people are falling into.
>everyone your age and younger is racing into a void of internet addiction, to the point of becoming perpetually narcissistic, perpetually attention-starved, perpetually distracted (and therefore incapable or organizing complex and meaningful thoughts), and never at peace. Recognizing this, you can avoid this trap and become a very thoughtful and intelligent person who rises above 90%+ of people on those matrices.
>if you quit social media, treating the internet as merely an encyclopedia and a calculator, you will almost immediately become a more thoughtful and knowledgeable person (this includes major increases in self-awareness, problem-solving skills, better ability to focus on and learn things, and better communication skills. This also means that you will become better at organizing your thoughts and ideas, which is critical to creating anything of value.

Good luck, OP.

[Anonymous No.17078206]

>>17078186
This other stanza is even more soul crushing:

>I've held more humanities against my hypothetical breast than Christ.
>I've secretly invented philosophies such as Kant never wrote.
>But I am, and perhaps will always be, the man in the garret,
>Even though I don't live in one.
>I'll always be the one who wasn't born for that;
>I'll always be merely the one who had qualities;
>I'll always be the one who waited for a door to open in a wall without doors
>And sang the song of the Infinite in a chicken coop
>And heard the voice of God in a covered well.
>Believe in me? No, not in anything.
>Let Nature pour over my seething head
>Its sun, its rain, and the wind that finds my hair,
>And let the rest come if it will or must, or let it not come.
>Cardiac slaves of the stars,
>We conquered the whole world before getting out of bed,
>But we woke up and it's hazy,
>We got up and it's alien,
>We went outside and it's the entire earth
>Plus the solar system and the Milky Way and the Indefinite.

[Anonymous No.17078257]

>>17078206
I like that one less, I thought he was a cool loser poet, not some guy whining about being an underappreciated genius.

[Anonymous No.17078283]

>>17077014
>so this board is for people that haven't lived their dreams
this is 4chan. you don't even know where you are and yet you're calling other people "gramps", gramps

[Anonymous No.17078299]

>>17078283
Who the fuck invented "dreams" in this context? Was it genuinely Disney?

[Anonymous No.17078438]

>>17078151
What do you even mean?

>>17078178
I’m not sure if this is for me. I’m not exactly a failure. I’ve done well enough at just about everything. I just don’t have an interest in a contemporary career. I don’t have ambitions to be a software engineering manager as my life’s goal is all. It’s not so much a matter of wallowing in failure.

[Anonymous No.17078488]

>>17078438
Kid, go fuck yourself. You're depressed. Wait for it to go away or visit the closest psychiatrist if you're into that sort of thing. Having a career is bad, we all get it. Working sucks, we all get it. You either work your way towards earning passive income and quite the rat race or quit it right now and bum around for a few years. There's no other way unless you were born into wealth.

[Anonymous No.17078530]

>>17078488
Disagree but thanks for replying I suppose

[Anonymous No.17078986]

>>17078054
At 30 you aren't trying to figure out how to pimp yourself out for marginal pay. That's what an 18 year old has to do. Starting at 25 you should be making 5 year goals and the next 15 years are about growing and maintaining your trajectory in the world. Just because you can't go die for Israel after 30 doesnt mean your life is over. The second half of your life is just beginning and i would argue its the beginning of your true life as an individual. Your parents are out of the picture and youre making your own choices and raising a family. Its all growth

[Anonymous No.17079030]

>>17078299
lold, maybe, it does seem to signify brain rot in its most common usage

[Anonymous No.17079031]

>>17077899
Post physique

[Anonymous No.17079059]

>>17076641
Ive been tormented by this question for many years now. And iam afraid that there is no answer. I would recommend to just go with the flow of life and see where it throws you up.

For a book i can recommend you smth from Emil Cioran. When u accept death u can stay alive because y not.

Currently studying philosophy and working at mcdonalds to stay afloat

[Anonymous No.17079203]

>>17079031
Check out these gains

[Anonymous No.17079430]

>>17076641
You may be depressed or simply 'maladjusted'. I'm 28 and got very little to show for it except for my lovely girlfriend. I don't think it really gets better, we mostly stay close to our happiness baselines.
One 'advice' I can give you though is to allow yourself freedom from grand ambitions. Once you accept yourself - there's plenty of good reasons if you post on here and are capable of self-reflection - you don't have to chase something that you'll never find. Stop comparing yourself to others, stop feeling guilty (if you do). Where do your ideas of a 'good' life originate? Pro-tip: they're not original. Why do I say that (and implicitly argue against striving for something better)? Simply because not everyone can be popular, achieve greatness, change the world, make a million figures a year, yadda yadda. Why set yourself up for an impossible standard? Who else do you hold to these foreign standards? Your peers? Your family? Friends? Strangers? Just be as kind to yourself as you are to others, as you should be.
Having said that, those Petersonian christcucks are probably right. There's worse things than spawning offspring, settling down and autopiloting the rest of it for a smooth life - in the end nothing really matters, whatever everyone says. But you know what? It doesn't really matter.
Also, the term 'work' is poisoned. Recognize that putting effort into something is costly, exhausting and incredibly fulfilling, but it's not about doing some menial shit for someone else to earn enough to be allowed to live.

[Anonymous No.17079510]

>>17079203
Peak physique.

[Anonymous No.17079724]

>>17077731
At least you had the privilege of wasting your life.

[Anonymous No.17080372]

>>17076641
>>17078116

This resonated a lot with me anon, I'm 27 and I've been feeling something similar throughout all my 20's. I never showed up a passion for any artistic or intellectual pursuit in my childhood or adolescence, neither have any concrete skill that I could feel proud about it. As another anon said, you are either depressed or maladjusted, and the latter comes from being conscious about this condition of existential mediocrity, unlike the average guy who focuses on his career, reproduces, and consumes shitty mass media. Just embrace this and try to focus on your relationships and pick up a trade or skill without expecting greatness. No book will solve this anguish anon, only action will lead to something concrete, people like us can't wait our whole life for motivation or a "calling", just experience your possibilities and hopes to find that thing that makes a click with you

[Anonymous No.17080758]

>>17076641
Read Kierkegaard

Your time is running out and you must make a decision.

[Anonymous No.17080766]

>>17078178
Just took a read through this and I really enjoyed it. I found it very thought-provoking. I'm pretty young, (21) though it really resonated with me. Perhaps I should take it as a precautionary tale; I have my whole life ahead of me.

>I made of myself what I was no good at making,
>And what I could have made of myself I didn't.
>I put on the wrong costume
>And was immediately taken for someone I wasn't, and I said nothing and was lost.
>When I went to take off the mask,
>It was stuck to my face.
>When I got it off and saw myself in the mirror,
>I had already grown old.
>I was drunk and no longer knew how to wear the costume hat I hadn't taken off.
>I threw out the mask and slept in the closet
>Like a dog tolerated by the management
>Because it's harmless,
>And I'll write down this story to prove I'm sublime.

[Anonymous No.17081227]

Not this one. What a waste of time

[Anonymous No.17081235]

>>17076641
Just read period

[Anonymous No.17081239]

>>17077969
>You peak at 25, physically.
I managed to bypass this by being incredibly fat up until about 25 and then losing weight.

[Anonymous No.17081249]

>>17078038
I know how you feel, man. I really have no idea what I'm doing with my life at this point. 33, not-very-well-paid job, rather doubtful I'm going to have a wife or kids. If I were Muslim I would go become a suicide bomber.

[Anonymous No.17081252]

>>17081227
Disagree

[Anonymous No.17081261]

>>17081252
Elaborate

[Anonymous No.17082143]

>>17081249
The fact people don't understand why people do that is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.17082192]

>>17076641
I just turned 36 and all I can tell you is the answer is not in books, it's been inside you all along.
Just live. Stop worrying that you are not some perfectly organized great person and just be a person for start. Go through things and hobbies that strike your fancy, see what you are good at and try to imagine if you will like to do that 10 years in the future. Start small and work your way up. Organize your room as a first step to organizing your life, it will give you a taste of good feeling. Doesn't matter how long it takes you, at least you will have a reason to get up each morning. Build a foundation and the house will gradually fall in place.
You don't own the world anything except being a nice person to others, and the world doesn't own you anything except letting you live.

[Anonymous No.17082294]

>>17082192
>it's been inside you all along
The kingdom God is within thyself. Good one, my man.

[Anonymous No.17082400]

>>17082192
Go eat some veg Mr Peterson, no one is buying your book.

[Anonymous No.17082413]

>>17082400
I never wrote a book. But veggies are always good to snack on.

[Anonymous No.17082452]

>>17082192
>You don't own the world anything except being a nice person to others, and the world doesn't own you anything except letting you live.
TOP KEK
this is unachievable.
man is the animal.
in this world nothing ever solved.

[Anonymous No.17083541]

You were born between the turning of ages, a meat grinder really.
Read the poor sods born at the arse end of the belle epoch and then shat violently into modernity.
Ezra Pound, Herbert Reed.
You might survive, somebody has to.

[Anonymous No.17083597]

>>17078986
I just totally reject this worldview that implies “you should be doing X at 20, Y at 25, and Z at 30” especially because they almost always reduce down to one’s role in everything that is strictly economic. That doesn’t interest me and brings me no fulfillment. I’m sure of it. You give away your thinking with the die for Israel comment too, I think. No offense meant but I don’t share it.

>>17079430
What does it even mean to be depressed? Who here is not depressed? I don’t compare myself to others. I learned a long time ago that were not interested in same things. I have no interest in popularity, a million dollars, or “changing the world”.

>>17080372
I actually have a talent and I guess you could call it a passion for artistic things so I guess to some degree I’m lucky but I don’t see any real outlet or meaningful conduit for that which can replace the wastefulness of the rest so it doesn’t quite matter imo.

>>17082192
Thanks for the advice but I’m convinced that hobbies are not important and will not make life worth living.

>>17083541
Pound is a favorite of mine.


For those thinking it, I’m not arguing or whining. I’m continuing to share my authentic thoughts in case progress is made and I realize other anons here sympathize and it should continue for their sake if no one else’s.

[Anonymous No.17083843]

>>17077969
this is the best advice. if you are thirty and you don't at least have a stable partner you are about to marry or have kids with, you are fucking up. 25 is the best age to start a family. as time goes on...no one wants to be that old dad that can't kick a ball and dies when the kid is a teenager. and no man wants to be a lonely 60 year old with no family.

[Anonymous No.17083937]

>>17077726
Lete me guess: you're about 40.

[Anonymous No.17083990]

>>17077726
Having kids after 30 is a lot harder, and life without kids is a complete waste of time.

[Anonymous No.17083995]

>>17081239
Based former fatty

[Anonymous No.17084002]

>>17077790
>30 is just the beginning of the prime of life

No it isn’t, for anyone. It’s the beginning of decline and decay.

[Anonymous No.17084042]

>>17083843
I don’t know what world you live in but it’s gotten increasingly more difficult to meet a girl by your 30s, let alone meet one that is interested in dating, marriage, and having kids. It is a 2 way street. Also, when did simply having kids become the goal in and of itself and why?

[Anonymous No.17084062]

>>17083990
Mom, stop posting here, I'm not giving you grandkids and that's my final.

[Anonymous No.17084093]

>>17084062
Are you genuinely comfortable with being a genetic dead end? A failure in the most absolute and objective sense? Every one of your ancestors for over two billion years reproduced and you failed because you’re just defective or something.

[Anonymous No.17084109]

>>17076641
Not catcher, it's just lowest common denominator coming-of-age.
When I feel like you I just read a bunch of nonfiction about war or survivalism and ask myself what I'd do in those situations (and try not to lie to myself). It usually helps me clear my mind and find out more about myself, and maybe even plan my next steps in life.

[Anonymous No.17084110]

>>17084093
Yes

[Anonymous No.17084113]

>>17083597
So... what are you asking for? It doesn't seem like you're accepting anyone's advice.

[Anonymous No.17084127]

Delet Steam
Pick one skill that's beneficial to society.
Put in the few thousand hours it takes to master it.
Get a fat gf who will do all your laundry and cook while you do previous step.
Profit.
Buy a house.
Get married.
Don't buy a car over $10k
Big profit.

Tic-toc you're already 10y behind

[Anonymous No.17084130]

>>17083990
it's amoral. antinatalism is the way.

[Anonymous No.17084180]

>>17084130
>it's amoral. antinatalism is the way.

It’s immoral to not have kids.

[Anonymous No.17084256]

>>17084042
>Also, when did simply having kids become the goal in and of itself and why?

since the dawn of time. because it's the greatest act of love and that is the worthiest of goals.

[Anonymous No.17084283]

>>17084256
That’s simply made up you’re projecting your values onto historical people for no reason

[Anonymous No.17084294]

>>17084113
Book recommendations...

[Anonymous No.17084297]

>>17084283
>Dead end coping

You will never know the joy of holding your child in your arms. You’re a loser

[Anonymous No.17084574]

>>17084294
Oh. Sorry. These "books for this feel" threads are usually a cover for conversations about other topics.

[Anonymous No.17084588]

>>17084297
Retard. I’m not saying having a child is a joy. I’m saying you’re projecting the idea that the ultimate goal of living is simply to reproduce onto to historical man with no basis for doing so.

[Anonymous No.17084601]

>>17084574
I mean, yeah it is that but I also sincerely want books and that’s why I made the thread.

[Anonymous No.17084620]

>>17084294
Oblomov
Tartar Steppe
A hero of our time

[Anonymous No.17084686]

>>17084588
It’s the ultimate goal for all life that has ever existed, as revealed by Darwin.

[Anonymous No.17084697]

Im 22 and I feel a bit like you OP, maybe Im being naive in saying this.
Im terribly afraid of death though

[Anonymous No.17084721]

>>17084686
The way you speak of Darwin as if he were a prophet says it all. It’s amazing how all these people who lived long before Darwin somehow agreed with him unanimously before he had his revelation. A bit contradictory don’t you think?

[Anonymous No.17084776]

>>17080758
Good answer. Become a Knight of Faith OP

[Anonymous No.17084872]

>>17084776
It’s funny you say that because while I haven’t read Kierkegaard part of my search has led me to spiritualism and to be perfectly honest, I don’t know what it is but I do find something filling in that. My problem I guess is my exploration of it is so confused. Nothing really resonates fully and I have a hard time making sense of what I need to do in light of everything.

[Anonymous No.17084989]

>>17084283
You wouldnt exist if your ancestors had not had kids. It's amoral to be wasteful or live in poverty. Having just one-two kids is a net neutral. Thankfully antinatalism is a self extinguishing social disorder

[Anonymous No.17084998]

>>17077731
Browsed since I was 12 (not a good age for /b/ lol), and now I'm still here at 23.

>>17077852
Same here amigo, same here

[Anonymous No.17085009]

>>17076641
I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.

[Anonymous No.17085176]

>>17084989
I never argued that nor did I argue that having kids wasn’t a good thing or even a necessity.

[Anonymous No.17085218]

>>17076641
Can we purge these reddit fags from this website once and for all please?

[Anonymous No.17085227]

>>17085218
You don’t even read. Go away.

[Anonymous No.17085678]

OP read the usual suspects:
Crime and Punishment, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Notes from the Underground

[Anonymous No.17085918]

>>17084093
That's nuts.

[Anonymous No.17086494]

Man, you guys in this thread are a bunch of nilhistic cunts. Do any of you guys even wonder about the impossible at all? The unseen? Do any of you ponder at the idea of trying to add awe and wonder to the world in any way?
Girls aren't that bad either; the only thing holding any of you fuckers back is yourself. Chances are, most of you are capable of aiming high but most of you are probably too afraid to catch it and aim high.

The solution is just to start small and humble. Be a fucking hobo if it helps and keep some savings for a rainy day. Do some manual labour and live the bumfuck life you want. If shit starts rolling, make sure it rolls the way you want it to.
You don't have to do everything. Just do something.

[Anonymous No.17086513]

>>17086494
OP here. The answer is yes constantly. I find your reply both helpful and unhelpful. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.17087523]

>>17084093
Most spooked post I've seen here so far

[Anonymous No.17087963]

>>17078198
>started seriously pursuing what they care about
This is immediately where shit goes south for me. I don't care one jot about anything.

[Anonymous No.17087973]

>>17084093
>>17084093
what the fuck i don't even want to. it means nothing to me at best, at worst the idea of reproducing fills me with the blackest despair imaginable.

[Anonymous No.17089011]

>>17084093
>>17083990
reproductionn is only a sign that you have reproduced. its not success. most genetic roads are dead ends. the remaining will eventually be dead ends. you dont get more points the more it goes on. it just went on because the ones that went on did. thats it. there is no success to it. its just you imposing pain to your kids that may even be unimaginable to you because youve been luckier and thats why you personally think its good to be alive. or youre fixing your marriage.

[Anonymous No.17089024]

find the balance between long hauls of work to master your craft in whatever you want to do and the short day to day livings that youd wanna do if you were closer to death.

[Anonymous No.17089067]

>>17077717
>There is no value to what the crowd says or remembers about you
But I feel good when people compliment my writing and I want to accrue compliments until I hit the critical mass of fame, respect, smart friends, and sexual relations with high-quality women. Can't you just let me indulge my delusions until I either achieve them or blow my brains out thus ending my burden upon society?

[Anonymous No.17089092]

>>17082452
edgy opinion
greentext
cynical
nihilistic
manages to say nothing at all
based

[Anonymous No.17089103]

>>17084127
m8, i can cook and clean for myself. i'd rather fuck hotties (male) thank you very much

[Anonymous No.17089241]

How long have you felt like that OP? If you're honest can you think back to a time within the past 5 years you were happy? And then, before that you if you felt like how you currently do 5 years ago? What about a time before than that that you were happy?
That's all I got for you, honestly. When I feel very shitty I just recall the fact that life even on a private, insignificant level is not universally bad, and good times come, sometimes of our one's own making and sometimes by circumstances independent of one's control. So there's no reason to go crazy thinking everything in life is hopelessness and suffering, but see the current unpleasantness as necessary to an overall ambiguous whole. Think about it: you are not perfect, so not all circumstances of your own making will make you content, and neither is chance or fate in relation to your existence, so they will likewise not always please you - and since you are not perfect, some of those cause you grief, since there is no ideal stoic sage in the real world. It's horrible to never be happy, but it is inevitable to sometimes feel pain, unfulfilled yearning, anxiety, numbness, hypersenitivity, etc.
I learned this from reading Montaigne's Essays because it is the spirit of a lot of what he writes, and applying the lesson has greatly reduced self-inflicted pain from my own thoughts.

[Anonymous No.17089344]

>>17089241
And if you're one of those who have been unhappy for their entire lives? including childhood?

What happy memories shall they recall?