/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17060383]

What is the most /lit/ place to live and why is it Brooklyn?

[Anonymous No.17060387]

>Brooklyn
lol its not 98 anymore. that place hasnt been "cool" in fucking years.

[Anonymous No.17060395]

>>17060383
I thought Paris was the City of Lights

[Anonymous No.17060399]

>>17060383
>not taking the flyoverpill
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.17060411]

>>17060399
this

[Anonymous No.17060415]

suburbanites and ruralite hicks don't even bother replying lmao

[Anonymous No.17060417]

>>17060399
The rockies aren't flyover states

[Anonymous No.17060424]

>>17060383
The most /lit/ city cannot be in America. Period.

[Anonymous No.17060423]

>>17060383
>Most /lit/ place to live
>A city
You guys are disgusting, you know that?

[Anonymous No.17060425]

>>17060415
heh heh you got those ruralite hicks. us city folk are much more cultured. sure we step in bum piss and pay $1200/mo for our studio apartments, and inhale

[Anonymous No.17060428]

>>17060424
obsessed

[Anonymous No.17060439]

>>17060383
i lived in brooklyn for 8 years and moved upstate during the coof. i miss what it used to be, but it's a poor shadow of its former glory.

[Anonymous No.17060444]

>>17060387
This.
Cities are shit, especially New York,

[Anonymous No.17060450]

>>17060428
self-obsessed.

[Anonymous No.17060454]

You just know somebody is writing sooner kind of great satrical novel in silicon valley right now

[Anonymous No.17060462]

>>17060383
Jewyork breaks your creativity wit dem 5g waves doe!

[Anonymous No.17060471]

>>17060444
>>17060425
>>17060423
t. coping uncultured suburbanite/ruralite hicks.

[Anonymous No.17060479]

>>17060423
>cities bad, country good
Constantly. You guys are such tiresome dullards

[Anonymous No.17060490]

>>17060417
Any state between Illinois and California is a flyover state (maybe excluding Texas, and Nevada for LV’s sake).

[Anonymous No.17060493]

>>17060471
Post /fa/ meetup and writing.

[Anonymous No.17060495]

I live in New York. I’ve lived in this are my whole life albeit at one point way way out in the edge of the commuter region in Pennsylvania. I don’t think there’s anything /lit/ about New York. I’ve been to Europe btw. I don’t think there’s anything /lit/ about any city in Europe either. Maybe Moscow, Shanghai, or Tokyo but I doubt it.

If you ask me, the only remotely /lit/ places nowadays are the places that are totally dropped out - so find some places with an extremely low population density and take your pick.

[Anonymous No.17060509]

>>17060490
Colorado and Montana especially are turning into Californian colonies. Parts of Wyoming as well. Why exclude Texas but not Arizona, for instance? Indiana and Ohio are infinitely more "flyover" than any Rocky Mountain state, at least those have some natural beauty which could attract people. Much of the midwest is just dismal.

[Anonymous No.17060514]

>>17060495
Also, I’ve heard Prague, Krakow, Vienna, and Budapest are great but I have never been and I highly suspect they’re not /lit/ even if they are nice.

[Anonymous No.17060518]

Cities are gay

[Anonymous No.17060521]

>>17060495
>>17060514
What qualified a place as "lit" to you?

[Anonymous No.17060523]

>>17060509
Because Texas is an economic and industrial powerhouse that is developing at a rate faster than almost anywhere in the world. I totally see your point but the guy is right that everything the East Coast to West Coast with the exceptions of Illinois and Texas are still flyovers.

[Anonymous No.17060532]

>>17060479
Post crawlspace

[Anonymous No.17060542]

>>17060521
That’s a good question. I don’t really have a defined set of characteristics. I guess what comes to mind to me is like a reading/writing subculture, maybe a big academic scene even though I personally detest academia. I just don’t see any of that here.

[Anonymous No.17060567]

>>17060542
NYC certainly is a hub for both academia and publishing, though it's kind of cloistered from the general population

[Anonymous No.17060574]

>>17060532
>it is important to have a useless room under your house

[Anonymous No.17060598]

>>17060567
Just because they pump out a large quantity of books and academics, doesn’t make it /lit/. In fact, New York is the epicenter of this whole consultant-journo “How to be F*cking Awesome and Kick *ss” plague that’s infected the publishing scene over the last 10-20 years or so. Academics are a joke so no comment needed there.

[Anonymous No.17060605]

Still Berlin for the next 10 years
After that probably somewhere in Africa, either Johannesburg, Lagos or Addis Ababa
>inb4 /pol/posting

[Anonymous No.17060624]

>>17060495
It's sort of like that Woody Allen movie Midnight in Paris. This guy goes to modern day Paris and finds it is all a homogeneous commercialized mass. He instead hallucinates the 1920s when it was cooler and hangs out with all these cool writers.
Every city is becoming more or less the same thanks to globalization, a multicultural and consumerist grey zone without distinguished character. New York is no different.

[Anonymous No.17060626]

>>17060383
>He doesn’t live in a dugout under a field

[Anonymous No.17060644]

>>17060395
>hohoho let us eliminate all of le stars and le night sky ahh le light bulb. Beautiful.

[Anonymous No.17060682]

>>17060383

You must be kidding. Anyone who thinks NY is still alive for writers must be an MFA on handouts from their mom.

[Anonymous No.17060692]

>>17060383
my mom's house

[Anonymous No.17060718]

>>17060644
>woah nature so bootiful xD
What are you a child. Who cares about nature. You are going to stare at it for a minute than feel bored. Sure maybe taking trips to the country could be fun but it's no place to live in. There is nothing to do in the suburbs or the country except get bored and become a druggie and drive around. In the city you are around an array of people and culture. Sure, a lot of shitty people but it's good to be around people no matter what because they make you think and otherwise your mind will deteriorate and you will end up shooting yourself one day.

[Anonymous No.17060724]

>>17060605
Ok explain

[Anonymous No.17060731]

>>17060718
Are you 16?

[Anonymous No.17060738]

>>17060471
Capitalism ruined the idea of culture by making it a selling point

[Anonymous No.17060742]

>>17060383
Can you even take a step outside there without getting assaulted/robbed/stabbed/shot?

[Anonymous No.17060753]

I'm afraid he's right. New York in the 90s was the best place in the world. I remember skating and drinking and hanging out and everything was affordable. Now it's tourists and bankers.

[Anonymous No.17060756]

>>17060724
African IQ is going to rise across the continent in the future because they'll finally build infrastructure and better schools.

[Anonymous No.17060765]

>>17060756
Meme. African american iq is still 15 points lower than white russian IQ even tho russians from siberia have infinitely worse schools.

[Anonymous No.17060768]

Is New York really shit now or are people just memeing?

[Anonymous No.17060777]

>>17060768
No. It sucks and is actually getting worse.

[Anonymous No.17060783]

Moved from Brooklyn to KC. Much more /lit/, easier to find literary groups, doesn't smell like shit all the time.

[Anonymous No.17060784]

>>17060768
They are coping suburbanites and rural hicks.

[Anonymous No.17060798]

>>17060765
American education is legendarily bad. Not to mention that African Americans and Africans might are different groups.

[Anonymous No.17060800]

>>17060742
Yes, how is this even a question? You suburban kids are so jumpy

[Anonymous No.17060816]

>>17060765
>even tho russians from siberia have infinitely worse schools
Doubt. All I learned from American public school is board and card games.

[Anonymous No.17060825]

>>17060816
Well now you can take those skills to Vegas and make the big bucks

[Anonymous No.17060845]

>>17060753
I might know you. Did you skate at Tomkins?

[Anonymous No.17060886]

Gentrifying made bk gay as hell. Every libshit is the fucking same there. Queens is where its at rn, but even still its pretty shit

[Anonymous No.17060897]

A small villa in some rural place probably.
I hate living in a city so much, everyone is so selfish so prone to being assholes. Every time I go out I get into arguments with someone and they think they’re right when they’re fundamentally wrong, worst shit is they do it in front of their kids.
Construction noise everyday and invisible stars every night. Dear God, what have we done. This development is awful, stupidly disgusting I hate it so much.

[Anonymous No.17060916]

>>17060897
Nice villages and townships seem to be the most kino places to live especially in europe, Not some hodge podge of every culture watered down, not as much cookie cutter cardboard suburban homes, actual proximity nature, no smelly hobos, actually have a decent living space that isnt a overpriced shoebox. God I hate NYC

[Anonymous No.17060938]

>>17060897
>Every time I go out I get into arguments with someone
The common factor here is you, buddy

[Anonymous No.17060950]

>>17060742
Yes, but that risk is almost zero out of the city so I get what you’re trying to say

[Anonymous No.17060960]

>>17060605
Berlin is one of the most disgusting cities I have ever had the joy of living in. Main issues? Sky high rate of violence and more people living below the poverty line than anywhere else. Can’t deny it; it’s all true... but everybody still wants to live here. This city’s always got a promise for you. Might be a lie, an illusion, but it’s there... just around the corner - and it keeps you going. It’s a city of dreams. And I’m a big dreamer...

[Anonymous No.17060963]

>>17060950
>lived in a small town in Montana
>constantly accosted by meth heads

[Anonymous No.17060970]

>>17060423
This.

>>17060574
>>17060479
>>17060471
Cities are soul-draining rat cages and you know it.

[Anonymous No.17060986]

>>17060718
Everytime I read posts like this the more I agree with Ralph Emerson.

[Anonymous No.17060987]

>>17060383
NYC is a shithole full of homeless, criminals, and unbearable, disingenuous hipsters.

[Anonymous No.17060997]

>>17060718
I fucking hate people.
I have really fond memories of an uncles house that has a vineyard, he used to sell wine to the local chapel and a local spirit to people nearby. The guy had a wife and sons. They used to travel and he would stay alone at home, his only contact was when having visitors or when he was out to supervise the wine production.
I’ve never seen someone more complaced with life than that old dude. It was a rather big house with lots of rooms, had a couple of bikes and a buggy. Dogs where cool and fuck I hate the city so much really.

[Anonymous No.17060998]

>>17060970
>Cities are soul-draining rat cages and you know it.
this is the perspective of a misanthropic and contrarian suburbanite/hick that has barely been in a city. cities are great.

[Anonymous No.17061008]

>>17060986
>Emerson
The worst American writer. A dumb reactionary.

[Anonymous No.17061010]

>>17060387
pretty much. also, kill a leftist.

[Anonymous No.17061015]

>>17060998
I lived in a city my whole fucking life.
There are a million reasons why rural (not suburban) life is better.

[Anonymous No.17061019]

>>17061010
>kill a leftist
dumb hick

[Anonymous No.17061029]

>>17060998
I lived in 2 big cities, a smaller city, and the country, and the country has been the best and the big city was the worst.
NYC and San Fran are shit. Spent 2 years as a kid and 2 years as a teen there. The only appeal if if you like clubbing. Otherwise living in big cities like that sucks dick.
Lived in a few different rural Idaho areas. Loved it. Playing with cousins, visiting great grandparents, going and fucking around in federal land. 10/10 experience.
Boise is the place I've lived the most and it's decent but as more people move here it becomes more and more miserable. Especially all the hipster fucks downtown. Fuck them.

[Anonymous No.17061030]

>>17061015
>There are a million reasons why rural
Only dumb "trads" (contrarians) think this. Rural life sucks and it's boring. Not even people that live in the country like the country and want to get the fuck out. You romanticize it too much.

[Anonymous No.17061035]

>>17060998
Cities can be great. None of the biggest ones in the US are. They're all so homogenized that they have no character.

[Anonymous No.17061039]

>>17061019
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.17061041]

>>17060938
Probably yeah, I stand out for my shit.
If I’m waiting for a spot at the parking lot and some dude cuts me off and takes it while I’m waiting for the guy currently going out, shouldn’t I be angry?
If some guy litters a huge bag of papers, shouldn’t I be angry?
If some guy is insulting a random worker, shouldn’t I be angry?
I smoke daily and I don’t go around littering, I save my shit until I find a trash can or store it for home. I know how to properly complain to a service worker without making them feel like shit. I might declare myself as an egoist but I can’t stand still while people are being pieces of shit.

[Anonymous No.17061044]

>>17061030
What's so good about living in the city anon? What amazing experience do you get there that would make you want to live there for your life?

[Anonymous No.17061048]

>>17060970
This is such a giant meme.

>move to the country
>cheapest place I can find is $800 a month to live in a basement with a total psycho landlord living upstairs
>only job available is working at a failing motel
>have to drive everywhere
>the few neighbors I have are assholes

>move to the city
>get a 3 bedroom house for $900 a month
>get a better job immediately
>almost everything I need within walking distance
>neighbors are mostly cool
>fall in with a very active group of artists
>competition and collaboration push me to develop my craft

Live where you want, I don't care. But stop being such a bitch about it.

[Anonymous No.17061057]

Boston?

I would think the cheaper NYC satellites - Boston, Philly, and Chicago would be /lit/ but Philly is a dump and Chicago doesn’t seem much better.

[Anonymous No.17061062]

>>17061041
>If some guy litters a huge bag of papers, shouldn’t I be angry?
>If some guy is insulting a random worker, shouldn’t I be angry?
Thank you anon. You are justified I agree.
>>17061008
What are his flaws anon? His writings on Nature make sense, along with the innate human connection we have to it. How is he the worst?

[Anonymous No.17061069]

>>17061048
>>get a 3 bedroom house for $900 a month
What? Where in NYC do I find a deal like this?

[Anonymous No.17061072]

>>17061057
Boston is full of hipsters driving up the rent.
Chiraq's name is well deserved.

[Anonymous No.17061103]

>>17061069
Maybe in the shittier parts of bk or somewhere in queens. No way in manhattan.

[Anonymous No.17061114]

>>17060383
I lived in Greenpoint for a year in 2011. It was a cultural shithole aside from a few eateries and the Richard Thompson concert I went to.

[Anonymous No.17061122]

>>17060624
this is true and sad

[Anonymous No.17061130]

>>17060383
What's /lit/ about Brooklyn besides it being a hotspot for talentless jewish hacks?

[Anonymous No.17061167]

>>17061030
Pros of living rural:
-Cheap and plentiful amounts of land
-Cheap houses
-Access to forests and woods (if in the right place)
-The ability to hunt for sustenance
-The ability to farm for sustenance
-The ability to shoot guns on your property
-The ability to own and raise livestock
-The ability to drive vehicles without restriction on private property
-The lack of crime (if in the right place)
-The lack of noise
-The lack of light pollution
-The lack of melanated fellows
-The lack of riots and protests

"Cons" of living rural:
-It's slightly harder to consoom meaningless shit
-Leftist faggots will call you contrarian

[Anonymous No.17061172]

North America simply can't compare.

[Anonymous No.17061174]

>>17061072
Well, I don’t know what’s left then. One American city that I personally really like is Pittsburgh but I totally hesitate to say it’s remotely /lit/ despite all the colleges and such. I’ve been to San Francisco. It’s not /lit/. Seattle maybe? Idk.

[Anonymous No.17061192]

>>17061167
A barcade sounds fun though.

[Anonymous No.17061196]

>>17061072
Fag I live in Dorchester for dirt cheap. Even JP is still cheap. Greater boston hoods are great, the diy music scene is god tier, overall just a very effay place to live rn

[Anonymous No.17061198]

>>17061192
The novelty wears off pretty quick.

[Anonymous No.17061201]

>>17061167
Less jobs too though. I was a fucking retard that got pushed into taking on $45k for a bachelor’s degree and no I basically have no choice but to work and live in a city.

[Anonymous No.17061210]

>>17061174
>Seattle maybe? Idk.
No. Same with Portland. Those places are the epitome of consumerism.

[Anonymous No.17061211]

>>17061192
Amusement parks can also be said to be fun. Would you move to a city just for an amusement park? What about a monthly comic book convention? An pro football team?

[Anonymous No.17061228]

>>17061201
Memevirus should make remote work way more popular and not actually need to live in a city so I could live wherever the fuck but normies will fucking RUSH to get back into their wagecages

[Anonymous No.17061232]

>>17061167
Pretty good, but your dead wrong about:
>-The lack of melanated fellows
The most rural areas I've been to in the US had the most density of blacks as far as I can tell. Yes I know that urban cities do too but that doesn't disprove my point. It's a damn near regrettable experience just getting gas in the south where every station has a literal gang of dindus.
>It's slightly harder to consoom meaningless shit.
Why? Wal-mart is the modern day agora in rural areas and the postal service fuckups up a lot less in the county than in cities.

[Anonymous No.17061239]

>>17061210
Yeah, I guess nowhere in America is. I suspect the /lit/ move these days is to just drop out and go rural somewhere in New England, or the Pacific Northwest or Alaska maybe.

Honestly, this whole question is kind of fucking dumb lol

[Anonymous No.17061248]

>>17061228
If you think Klaus Shwab is going to let people get away with avoiding being herded into mega cities, you just haven’t been paying attention.

[Anonymous No.17061252]

>>17060383
What's the best bookstore/record shop in the city that isn't in the east villa?

[Anonymous No.17061276]

>>17061239
Nah, it's totally bk

t. Traveller, local vagrant est. 2019

[Anonymous No.17061292]

>>17061239
Yes it is and I don't get why people defend American cities as a result.
The next time American Cities will be interesting is when Mega Cities develop in 50-100 years. And even then it'll be more out of sick curiosity of what sort of life can be lived in these overpopulated hellscapes than anything else.

[Anonymous No.17061326]

>>17061196
Bostons always been good-having 35 colleges in one city does that

[Anonymous No.17061363]

>>17061292
>even then it'll be more out of sick curiosity of what sort of life can be lived in these overpopulated hellscapes than anything else.
I’m pretty much at this mindset in NYC right now. It’s like a personal way of experiencing something valuable amid the insanity of it all.

[Anonymous No.17061375]

>>17061326
Give me the rundown on Boston I'm compiling a shortlist of places to move to when I go to uni.

[Anonymous No.17061379]

>>17061292
YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND LIKE IT

[Anonymous No.17061385]

>>17061326
It’s filled with those NYC consultant-banker-investment-tech researcher corporate careerist types. All those colleges create an air of pseudointellectualism. This is the prime cause of shit like Neil Gaiman books, feminist classics, and the Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck and all the shallow urban millenials who read them. Boston is maybe even worse than NYC in this regard.

[Anonymous No.17061392]

rightists are misanthropes and contrarians that's why they hate the city

[Anonymous No.17061396]

>>17061375
I'm >>17061196
Born and raised in boston went to uni in NY tho. It has the artistic culture of the shilled California cities and NYC without bullshit pretentious faggots, save freshman uni students. Rich with history and still affordable outside of Boston proper. Has a great Chinatown, fantastic transport system (the T) and there's always shit cool shit going on in neighborhoods like Allston. But honestly don't come gentrifying the place so forget I said this

[Anonymous No.17061404]

>>17061385
>Boston is maybe even worse than NYC in this regard.
And here I thought nyc was the hipster urban pseudo-ironic mecca of the modern world.

Books that deal with this topic?
Recently thought about getting into Bret Easton Ellis, not sure if it's worth the time

[Anonymous No.17061407]

>>17060845
Not often but I was in lower east side.I don't live in nyc any more but last time I came back to see my parents everything was expensive as shit and there's zero culture

[Anonymous No.17061429]

Astoria is nice, it's like a cheaper bk with a few distinct cultures. Sadly the pretty cool and unique greek populations seems to be dwindling and getting more how do you say... Mexican

[Anonymous No.17061431]

>>17061407
I was there 94-98... lower east side too... I haven't been back since, I can't stomach how much its changed... its like so sterile now

[Anonymous No.17061436]

>>17061404
Idk dude. Boston, Philadelphia, and Chicago have always felt to me like sort of smaller satellites of NYC. Boston was the bourgeois suburb city of NYC, Philly was the prole city, and Chicago was basically just an exact replica of NYC but downsized and with a price reduction. I say all of this having literally only ever lived in NYC and none of the others.

As for books, i don’t know. Bret Easton Ellis I guess, yeah.

[Anonymous No.17061444]

>>17061431
Living anywhere good these days? I'm actually thinking of relocating because the suburbs of bumfuck town aren't great either...

[Anonymous No.17061446]

Is Portland Maine /lit/?

[Anonymous No.17061465]

>>17060383
NYC is the de facto /lit/ city for the current era of diversity/feminism/Democrat-corporatist culture.

[Anonymous No.17061477]

>>17061465
as i said here>>17061392

[Anonymous No.17061487]

>>17061436
Had considered Philly given its proximity, but Chi-town is an interesting one.
I always figured that was seen as more of a midwest-industrial town like Detroit or Minneapolis.

>>17061429
Just move to Williamsburg. Far Rockaway is the only decent thing in Queens.

[Anonymous No.17061490]

>>17061436
Chicago is not NYC.

[Anonymous No.17061491]

>>17061444
I live in montreal now. its like 1k a month for me and overall its a great city for me. depends on what you're looking for though

[Anonymous No.17061504]

ITT: people coping with being too poor to afford big cities
Sure, cities are expensive when you’re poor and have to get roommates or live in a shitty studio but there’s a reason people with billions of dollars choose to live there

[Anonymous No.17061505]

>>17061487
Man I want to but its a little to rich for my blood atm, hopefully will get a new job next year hopefully

[Anonymous No.17061507]

>>17061490
Obviously not but if you don’t see the similarities that exist between NYC and Chicago to a far greater degree than any other cities in the US, then you’re just not paying attention.

[Anonymous No.17061514]

>>17061504
People with that much money have multiple fucking homes though and probably travel constantly

[Anonymous No.17061519]

>>17061514
Ok, many millions of dollars then

[Anonymous No.17061522]

>>17060383
I live in bk, and it is most decidedly not lit

[Anonymous No.17061530]

>>17061505
>little to rich for my blood atm
Yeah, that's how I felt when I moved here and then realized it's the only thing decent about Brooklyn. Ridgewood and Bushwick are college-galore, Bed-Stuy is Bed-Stuy, and everything west is Hasidics and families. Red Hook is nice but there's nothing over there and it isn't worth the 30 minute drive.

East Village is the dream, but you have to have money-money to get in that area at this point.

[Anonymous No.17061551]

>>17061167
Live among the most retarded people in the country

Retards throw garbage on the ground everywhere, their retarded kids vandalize shit up anything nice

The one family who obtained the most land a hundred years ago runs the town like its their own little kingdom

Not enough of a tax base so shit like ambulances are 3 thousand dollars if you fall and break your arm and even though taxes are crazy parks or libraries are shit

Library sucks and you have to drive 25 miles to a town that has a movie theater or bookstore

Internet sucks

Private land owners illegally block public land or illegally log/use it

[Anonymous No.17061555]

>>17061385
Yeah bullshit

[Anonymous No.17061570]

>>17060970
>Cities are soul-draining rat cages and you know it.
Prove it.

[Anonymous No.17061578]

>>17060387
yeh I liked when the murder rate was 3x what they are now

[Anonymous No.17061583]

>>17061504
No there isn't. Even the rich areas stink and are full of bums now in many cities. If you are only upper middle class then enjoy living in a stinky dangerous hellhole people say is "one of the safer neighborhoods" though. Not even your $3600 rent split three ways with two other yuppies can save you from living on a shitty dirty sidestreet. There is no reason to live in these dumps.

[Anonymous No.17061584]

>>17061570
>what are the NIMH Rat Universes
>what are the compararitive crime, depression and suicide rates of cities

[Anonymous No.17061595]

>>17061583
>Not even your $3600 rent split three ways with two other yuppies can save you from living on a shitty dirty sidestreet
If you’re living with roommates you’re not rich. If you’re truly rich then cities are just better, cope seethe and post soijacks

[Anonymous No.17061600]

>>17061375
I’d go to somewhere like Ann Arbor-Boston is cool to live after college but going to school in a city doesn’t appeal to me. Anyway you gave art hoes from Berklee, nerds from MIT, snooty chicks from Harvard and regular students from a Northeastern, BC and BU. About 60% of the students are female.

[Anonymous No.17061603]

>>17061595
Feel like some secluded mansion or some richfag mansion neighborhood is way better.

[Anonymous No.17061608]

>>17060523
Illinoisian detected, nothing except for maybe the Chicago area makes Illinois anything more than a flyover state.

[Anonymous No.17061618]

>>17061595
The people who live in those hipster patronizing trendy loft things are the people whose dads make millions a year and let them live and do whatever they want, and they still live in dirty shitholes. That's the point I was making.

>le epic i am just trolling cope soijak.jpg
Lurk before posting. Whatever you may have heard about 4chan on twitter, this isn't twitter.

[Anonymous No.17061619]

>>17061603
Maybe but how is a mansion different from a spacial rural house? Its just bigger. A large apartment in the city or even a house if you can afford it is just better

[Anonymous No.17061628]

>>17061618
Yes and the point I am making is that the dirty shitholes have something going for them which is why people choose to live in them even if they can have a large spread in a rural area, and that if you’re rich, they don’t have to be dirty shitholes

[Anonymous No.17061631]

>>17061619
Most richfags live in the rich outskirts of cities not in the cities themselves usually

[Anonymous No.17061636]

>>17061608
I am a coastalfag, not an Illinoisan. But yes, it’s because of Chicago. Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the US and considering Los Angeles isn’t really a city, it’s basically the 2nd largest city in the Us and will be considered a mega city within a few decades. Not saying the rest of Illinois isn’t flyoverish, but that’s true in every state.

[Anonymous No.17061645]

>>17061555
How is that bullshit? Are you really going to try to pretend that Boston isn’t full of these white collar types, consultants, pe investors, researchers, journos, spoiled college kids, etc? It obviously is.

[Anonymous No.17061652]

>>17061504
The rich don't live there idiot. They usually have mansions somewhere out in the suburbs, they only go to the cities on business. Why do you they remain rich?

[Anonymous No.17061654]

>>17061057
boston is probably the nicest big city in the us but it still sucks

[Anonymous No.17061658]

>>17061584
>what are the compararitive crime, depression and suicide rates of cities
And you say this without citing any actual statistics?

[Anonymous No.17061662]

>>17061375
>>17061600
Gotta disagree with this guy. I understand his rationale about places like Ann Arbor, Madison, and such. I went to one of these college town type places and I frankly think all college in the US is basically bullshit but if you’re gonna go, just go to the city since that’s where employment with a college degree is going to send you anyway.

[Anonymous No.17061666]

>>17061628
I lived in one of the most trendy areas in one of these cities and my girlfriend lived in another one that is famous for "up and coming" hipsters. They don't have anything going for them unless you are these people, but maybe you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2WwCzaGo9c

Enjoy getting stabbed by the indian guy when you go to the hip grungy record store with the black mold, before going back to your $2500/mo one bedroom apartment with black mold and mice. Either that, or live in a vacant secluded mansion like the other anon said. Trendy=dirty and filled with hipster faggots. How does Portland look to you?

[Anonymous No.17061709]

>>17061666
Keep fucking coping. Your whole argument is based on stereotypes of leftist types that you can avoid if you want to. Places are called up and coming because hipsters move in there and hipsters move there because they’re relatively cheap compared to other neighborhoods. You only have to deal with one bedroom apartments if you’re poor. If you think 2500 is a lot for rent you can’t afford a city. Hipsters live in Williamsburg or bush wick or whatever, rich people live in soho

[Anonymous No.17061721]

>>17061709
Stop saying "I learned about 4chan from twitter" tourist buzzwords that give you away. At least pretend to belong here. No, like I said I learned by living there. And I linked a video of what one of the trendiest neighborhoods in Brooklyn, at least a couple years back, actually looks like. You can see for yourself. Looks like shit and it's filled with faggots.

>stereotypes of leftists
Definitely a tranny.

[Anonymous No.17061725]

>>17061666
>Enjoy getting stabbed by the indian guy when you go to the hip grungy record store with the black mold, before going back to your $2500/mo one bedroom apartment with black mold and mice.
A Dominican gang banger walked into a convenience store and straight up shot and killed the clerk to rob it and not leave any witnesses in my area. He was an an Indian immigrant just working to feed his family. Pretty sad. It’s unreal how much filth this city’s built up over the years. It should be washed away by another flood.

[Anonymous No.17061726]

>>17061721
0/10 reading comprehension “you don’t belong on 4chanz+tranny” spergout

[Anonymous No.17061776]

>>17061726
>gets upset at being called tranny
Confirmed tranny. Enjoy dodging hobo piss and schizophrenics in soho and getting coronavirus from a guy on grindr. I'm sure the city is about to boom!

[Anonymous No.17061780]

>>17061709
i'm not the guy you're replying to but
>hipsters move there because they’re relatively cheap
That's somewhat of an afterthought, first they identify which neighborhood is as close to the largest metropolitan area (Manhattan). The "compared" part is key here. Honestly I don't think they give a fuck where they live, it's all decided by these comparisons-- which areas they can shit up closest to the most populous part, compounded by what price they can afford to shit with.

[Anonymous No.17061791]

> not choosing horse anon's schizoid suburban Eden
enjoy your HUSTLE and BUSTLE of a big city senpai

[Anonymous No.17061824]

If /int/ is any indication of current lit obsessions then the most /lit/ city is some small city in Europe with medieval architecture like Aachen or somewhere with Hindu temples like Delhi.

So there you have it.

Aachen and Delhi.

[Anonymous No.17061833]

>>17061824
Delhi is a shithole I lived there

[Anonymous No.17061851]

>>17060644
My mind is still in '07, whenever I read le something or spurdish I chuckle outloud

[Anonymous No.17061877]

>>17060514
Viennese cafes were the most /lit/ place to be until they banned smoking in restaurants

[Anonymous No.17061893]

>>17061725
That's 70s tier. The thing is, most of the minorities don't mind living like this. They either have recent memories of squalor or they are already living in squalor, so they don't mind when the city looks like a Mad Max movie. They just switch to day by day survival "at least it wasn't me" mode. So when things start to get worse and worse, this time with no booming economy or middle class to get outraged and make a cause out of addressing it, there is no knowing how low it will sink. New York will look like meme Detroit, meme Detroit will become Mexico/Africa, and eventually everywhere will be the same.

>>17061791
Are you this horseanon? I've been saving his lovely pictures but I'm a bit worried about him. He seems to be having an episode.

[Anonymous No.17061901]

DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!

[Anonymous No.17061923]

>>17061833
I was kind of joking but only kind of

[Anonymous No.17061925]

>>17061662
I’d rather go to school in a cozy safe town

[Anonymous No.17061935]

>>17061893
>New York will look like meme Detroit, meme Detroit will become Mexico/Africa, and eventually everywhere will be the same.
Agree 100%.

I thought it was funny when a couple of months ago there was that headline about whoever wrote whether or not New York was coming back after coronavirus. He said basically New York was dead and it’s not coming back and obviously this triggered people. So all sorts of people started responding usually saying things like “Well, once the prices drop you’ll see the artists and urban explores will move back in and revitalize the city and there will be a renaissance” and my response was always “What fucking artists?”

[Anonymous No.17061944]

Wolves live in the village/small town, roaches in the city. Simple as that. If you don't become at least slightly misanthropic being surrounded by thousands of unknown faces, you are dysgenic filth.

[Anonymous No.17061980]

>>17061944
It is literally an American thing though. Our cities are shitholes because our citizens are shitheads. I’ve spent time in Chinese and Japanese mega cities and I can tell you’re significantly better than anything we have.

[Anonymous No.17061998]

>>17060471
>t. a frail city slicker with lungs blackened by smog and a brain fried from the incessant noise
You've never looked up and seen the stars in the sky, have you?

[Anonymous No.17062005]

>>17061944
If you become misanthropic by seeing people you don't know you're pathetic. Does the bee know the inner life of the flowers it fucks? Does the hunter know every tree by name?

[Anonymous No.17062014]

>>17060383
Hobart, NY

[Anonymous No.17062029]

>>17061980
Nah, you mean to say that cities NOT being shit is a thing in SOME parts of Europe. I live in the capital of a post-Soviet state and it's fucking awful, disgusting. If there is any shed of humanity and divinity in a person, an understanding of beauty, he will definitely discover it in himself is he lives in such an ugly shithole as suburban Tbilisi. I am sure though Indian and Nigerian slums are worse.

[Anonymous No.17062031]

>>17060718
All the lead in the water really did a number on your head, huh?

[Anonymous No.17062063]

>>17062005
You dumb, uncultured swine. The average person is foolish and of weak character compared to an amateur polymath with a curious mind such as myself. Trying to evade this reality is nothing but a Stockholm Syndrome. Only way for a proud, intelligent man to overcome his disrespect and disregard of the normie is to actually get to know that person and live in one community. The mind of a normie cannot retain its individual self within a group as numerous and densely packed as the population of a large city, he becomes a mindless part of the hive. I do not wish to have anything in common with such a rat, a dysgenic, immoral filthy rat reminiscent of a literal rat of the Universe 25. Fuck you, you weak, half-brained son of a whore.

[Anonymous No.17062081]

>>17062063
My mother is a whore and my father was a pimp, but you my dear midwit are nothing but a fart-huffer. Grow some balls you pathetic weakling.

[Anonymous No.17062092]

>>17061893
>I've been saving his lovely pictures but I'm a bit worried about him. He seems to be having an episode.
i kinda am, but what made you think so? just curious
(yes it's me)

[Anonymous No.17062094]

>>17060960
>violence in Berlin
Where? I lived there and never felt even remotely close to unsafe.
Kreuzberg, Gesundbrunnen, and Mitte were all like Disneyland compared to North American cities. Hanging out and smoking weed with the west african drug dealers in Gorlitzer Park was one of the best memories of my time there.

[Anonymous No.17062102]

>>17062029
No, I agree that European cities are also mostly shit. They’re just slightly better than American. I was just referring to American specifically to make a point.

[Anonymous No.17062115]

>>17060383
Every silicon valley dickhead who packs up and decides to move to williamsburg to work for the NYC facebook campus because it's "so cultured" is another nail in the already buried coffin of brooklyn's reputation as cool

[Anonymous No.17062127]

>>17062102
Which euro cities? Are you talking Paris or Prague ? München or Marseille ?

[Anonymous No.17062133]

>>17062092
Are you sure you're the same guy? The ones I was waving were from /pol/ and looked like they were taken on a dusty ranch down south. I didn't mean to freak you out if you're not the same guy (or even if you are). I just liked that guy's horse pics.

But I only say he seems to be freaking out a bit because he was posting weirdly on /pol/, like lots of commas and typos. He was posting helpful stuff in a /diy/ style homesteading thread on /pol/ so I was sad if he was having a rough time that's all. If you are a different guy and also having a rough time, sorry too bro.

[Anonymous No.17062149]

>>17062081
Oh god, you have no idea how many confidently self-righteous roaches like yourself I have beaten up to half-consciousness, but it's expected that the faggots drowning in fear become the alphas on internet boards. I say this as sincerely as I can, I would immensely enjoy slamming your head on the sidewalk in front of your family.

[Anonymous No.17062160]

>>17062133
>were from /pol/ and looked like they were taken on a dusty ranch down south
ah nah, must be another horse anon. i dont go on pol and my stable is in moss cow suburb

[Anonymous No.17062172]

>>17062149
And I say to you sincerely: it is self-evident how high your self-opinion is, and I tell you it devalues yourself and your words. You're like the man who pathologically tells everyone he isn't gay even though they didn't ask.

I will come for you in your dreams :)

[Anonymous No.17062180]

>>17062160
Yes I remember your pics from here, your horses are also very nice anon. Sorry again if I spooked you, I was like oh shit maybe this guy's already in a paranoid mode and now he thinks some 4chan dude is estalking him.

Either way hope you are doing well.

[Anonymous No.17062195]

>>17062172
I have a high self-opinion, but you, a complete stranger whose face I have not seen, will come in my dream. What an idiot you are, your stupidity and extremely tragic lack of self-awareness alone makes the specie you are part of deservant of extinction.

[Anonymous No.17062207]

>>17062195
You obviously have no proper concept of guilt or even value, or else you wouldn't write nonsense like that. Keep seething midwit

[Anonymous No.17062217]

test

[Anonymous No.17062225]

>>17060383
As a young man living in flyover country, it's really pathetic to see all these middle americans pretending like middle america is anything but a vapid, hopeless wasteland of corporate chains, obese people, and unparalleled ignorance.

[Anonymous No.17062232]

Mexico City

[Anonymous No.17062242]

>>17062207
The midwit resides in the city

[Anonymous No.17062255]

>>17062225
shut up hick

[Anonymous No.17062257]

>>17062127
Western Europe. Prague is nice.

[Anonymous No.17062260]

>>17060383
>/lit/ place
>anywhere in the USA
shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.17062266]

Why do cities make /pol/ seethe so much?

[Anonymous No.17062271]

>>17061901
Bring back helvetica

[Anonymous No.17062272]

>>17062225
There’s a not so little spot between the West Coast and the Plains that is basically the only place a young man will find a way to test his experience and do something really worth doing in this country. I’m talking about climbing the Rockies btw if that wasn’t clear.

[Anonymous No.17062274]

>>17060383
I did my undergrad at NYU. Was a lot fun. Lots of arthoes (beware of herpes) to pump and dump and a ton of addy to sniff while binge drinking. Must suck now with the COVID restrictions.

[Anonymous No.17062279]

>>17062266
Same reason usury does.

[Anonymous No.17062280]

>>17061935
>What fucking artists?
New york hasn't wanted artists in a long time

[Anonymous No.17062281]

>>17061167
>ability to hunt/farm for sustenance
spotted the delusional suburb-dwelling sam hyde stan

[Anonymous No.17062294]

>>17062281
? Are you under the impression rural people don’t hunt?

[Anonymous No.17062303]

>>17061048
same
>college in suburban nowhere-ville surrounded by farmland
>rent was 800 for a room in a houseshare, plus utilities
>place was a dump, there was nothing around and no jobs
>the lack of an internship killed my career

>move to major city
>rent 900 for my own place, just moved to a 1200 place that has a view better than 3k/month places
>100% mine, no roommates
>center of everything, can walk everywhere, can walk to a grocery store in 5 minutes, every train and bus route comes right through my neighborhood
>best place i've ever lived, apartment is magazine tier gorgeous and i get compliments on it from everyone who comes by
>just laying on my bed and looking out the window is an amazing experience, i love every minute being here and am always in a good mood now
>jobs pay 2-3x what they do in suburbs/rural and i'm stacking cash in my bank account

[Anonymous No.17062304]

Everyone in this thread except horse anon is a fag.

[Anonymous No.17062327]

>>17060423
Based.

t. city anon

[Anonymous No.17062330]

>>17062281
Hunting and farming is delusional? Are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.17062335]

>>17062225
Most American cities have all that shit in spades too...

[Anonymous No.17062338]

>>17061167
>-The ability to hunt for sustenance
>-The ability to farm for sustenance
How much of one's diet every year can realistically be supplemented with home farming and a bit of hunting? I don't mean meme self sufficiency, I am not that badass and never will be, but could I really grow most of my staples on a few acres with some old fashioned hard work?

I have no desire to consoom or live fancy. I do want to eat more diversely than 100% potato though for health reasons.

>-The lack of melanated fellows
Please, don't make me dream like this... it's not good for me

[Anonymous No.17062392]

I really don't understand the american urbanites superiority complex . At the end of the day youre an american, just another shit version of it

[Anonymous No.17062398]

Lake District

[Anonymous No.17062419]

>>17060383
If you can't live somewhere cheaply then it isn't /lit/

[Anonymous No.17062426]

>>17062392
cool story, Abdullah

[Anonymous No.17062470]

>>17061172
How is B.A.? Is the crime that bad there?

[Anonymous No.17062489]

>>17062338
In the right places, you can hunt for meat all year long. Farming is a little bit harder but definitely doable even on small bit of land. info on this type of stuff can be found everywhere

[Anonymous No.17062523]

>>17060605
This is the actual correct answer

[Anonymous No.17062556]

Been living in the Brooklyn heights/carroll gardens area for 4 years now, definitely been the most /lit/ place I've lived at but that's likely circumstantial. However the caveat is that you'll lose all sense of that ethereal magnitude and creativity once you step into certain areas. Just like anywhere else I assume, you have to find your little bubble to stay within otherwise the degree of difference and diversity here is too overwhelming to maintain a solid grasp on an idea for a prolonged period of time, but perhaps that's just me. Of course assuming that the overall price for amenities, food, and living cost is not a concern. Bottom line is that if you have the chance, you should go visit a different array of cities/towns or rural parts to live at for a few months or a handful of years just to get a taste. Each place has it's own ambiance and you should live in one that is parallel to your endeavors. Just avoid the trains if possible as they can and will drive you into madness for every reason imaginable.

>>17062274
This is true, I've caught chlamydia twice from numerous NYU undergrad art hoes.

Lived in NYC, Seoul, Alaska, Beijing, Hong Kong, Florence Italy within the span of 19 years

[Anonymous No.17062562]

>>17062094
>I lived there and never felt even remotely close to unsafe.
That doesn't make statistics go away abdul

[Anonymous No.17062576]

>>17060383
I'll be honest there's something pretty /lit/ about being in an east coast university town with barely no infrastructure outside of one main street with small businesses and then university or universities. The establishments and schools have these old cozy buildings, and there's cafes and bookstores you can go in. Kind of nice, and you get to see pretty green springs, lovely orange-red autumns, and white snowy winters. I agree New York City is pretty /lit/ too, I lived there growing up til end of high school, but depends where you are, if you're in Chelsea and Greenwich Village it's nice, though a bit hipster now, but if you're in Flushing yeah not so much LOL

[Anonymous No.17062583]

Live anywhere but the suburbs. I hate living here so much.

[Anonymous No.17062590]

>all the urbanite cumbrains ITT
enjoy your behavioral sink

[Anonymous No.17062633]

Wish I lived in a city so bad. There is nothing to do where I am and I am bored out of my mind.

[Anonymous No.17062639]

Even though this thread seems to be near the end of its life, I'd like to posit that perhaps a "literary" place to live isn't, in fact, an exceedingly nice place to live, but rather the opposite. If you were to look at Joyce's Dublin or Miller's Paris, you'd find cultural stagnation, despair, and filth. In my view, what makes a place literary is not necessarily the place itself, but the soul of its people. What can be said about the modern day inhabitants of Brooklyn, New York– and more importantly what do *they* say about the times we live in? Is there a quality there that is unique enough to warrant writing about?

I live in a middle class suburb of Los Angeles county and it's awful. Everyone here is dead. It's so far removed from the world, from any actual truth, that I can't begin to write here. I'm not even complaining about my circumstances, it's not a bad deal living out here, it's just not /lit/. In my view, anywhere is better for writing than Agoura Hills, CA.

[Anonymous No.17062642]

>>17062633
Was like this too and now I live in a city and don't do anything since it's mostly just consooming tbqh

[Anonymous No.17062659]

>>17062633
Move when you have the chance

Opportunity is a piledriver

[Anonymous No.17062672]

>>17062303
what city anon?

[Anonymous No.17062681]

>>17062639
fag

[Anonymous No.17062695]

>>17062639
>Is there a quality there that is unique enough to warrant writing about?
Seeing how it's been the epicenter of youth culture for the last 20 years, I'd venture to say
>yes.

[Anonymous No.17062697]

>>17061174
why do you like pittsburgh? Im going to school there in the fall

[Anonymous No.17062728]

>>17062695
Fair point, but what's the nature of that youth culture? My impressions of Brooklyn just based off of what I gathered from this thread is that it's filed with trendy yuppie strivers, not really of any substance. Would probably be a great place to live if you were a parodist though.
I also say all this with a pretty strong desire to move to NYC and probably Brooklyn at that kek.

[Anonymous No.17062776]

>>17062728
>Would probably be a great place to live if you were a parodist though.
Think of hipsters as ironic, self aware beatniks. How many layers are you willing to put on?
I'd venture at least a winter scarf over a t-shirt.

Stick to north Brooklyn if you do.
It's a serious shitstorm to wade through, but you'll be glad you did in the end.
Avoid the overpriced cocktails and organic dog treat stores and you're good, but that goes for any decent yuppie city (Portland, Austin, Minneapolis).

[Anonymous No.17062777]

the most /lit/ place to live is invariably the place with the highest concentration of artsy sluts to bang. be they art hoes, literal prostitutes, or whatever, you gotta be bustin unironically.

[Anonymous No.17062793]

>>17062777
Unironically,
[Spoiler]Brooklyn[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.17062860]

>>17062576
This, really. Love rural Mass.

[Anonymous No.17062866]

>>17062777
based heavenly trips of truth

[Anonymous No.17062891]

>>17060518
how's the city life, faggot?

[Athanasius No.17062907]

>>17060383
It’s Brooklyn because in Brooklyn you can’t leave your tiny studio apartment for fear of violent minorities.

[Anonymous No.17062914]

>>17060624
You missed the entire point of the movie

[Anonymous No.17062955]

>>17062697
I just think it’s a decent place. It’s not too big and the people are pretty down to earth. It’s also not expensive. The one big downside is the weather but otherwise I like it.

[Anonymous No.17062969]

>>17060783
i dunno, hard for me to throw an elbow and not hit a writer in crooklyn.

and the smell is more concrete soaked in urine than shit. the smell comes out whenever the heat and humidity makes an appearance.

the biggest turn off though, is there seems to be a bit of elitism/snobbery about. significant number of groups want something retarded like a cv to be considered for joining a group.

much more recently, people are moving out of manhatten/brooklyn to outskirts like nj, buffallo and the like. might get interesting in 2021, especially around summer.

[Anonymous No.17062989]

>>17060886
dunno about the whole of brooklyn, but in crown hieghts area, lotta asian investment via speculation + dumping collateral that's harder to trace through shell investment co's; i'm wondering what's happening there. last time i was able to get out, 80% of store fronts were shuttered.

big question is if either they (the not well to do) were pushed out via overpricing and squatted on until they were forced to move, leaving a blank storefront
or the investors abandoned the area

[Anonymous No.17063011]

>>17062242
The midwit thinks circumstances make the man, and not his will

[Anonymous No.17063014]

>>17062639
So close to Calabasas yet so far.

[Anonymous No.17063028]

>>17062257
So is Amsterdam, and Munich and Hamburg and Brussels and Vienna and Harlem, and every city that hasn't traded old buildings for glass and steel "architecture".

[Anonymous No.17063109]

>>17062907
you must live in a small world if you think brooklyn is scarey

[Anonymous No.17063166]

>>17062777
The /lit/ place is just the place you can coom, huh?

[Anonymous No.17063289]

South Brooklyn is kino but North is the yuppie part

[Anonymous No.17063322]

>>17062556
>This is true, I've caught chlamydia twice from numerous NYU undergrad art hoes.
based.

[Anonymous No.17063336]

>>17062914
I wasn't making a point about the movie, dumbfuck. I was using it to accentuate the claim that cities have become homogenous.

[Anonymous No.17063344]

Have any of you nyc fags managed to find Pynchon yet? He lives in the Barrington buliding on W 81st St.

[Anonymous No.17063432]

>>17063344
someone beat him up please, his books are trash

[Anonymous No.17063776]

>>17061069
Not NYC, Philly

>>17061057
The dumpiness of Philly is a big part of the appeal. Keeps prices down and there are plenty of neighborhoods where the yuppies are still afraid to go for no real reason.

[Anonymous No.17063779]

>>17062562
Show statistics

[Anonymous No.17063786]

>>17063776
the first time i drove to philly i had to stop just off the exit ramp at 2 pm because a car was stopped in the middle of the road with the driver vomiting into the street.

[Anonymous No.17063807]

>tfw toronto

i wanna move to mtl so bad but fucking francos

[Anonymous No.17063827]

>>17063786
That's Philly, man. Some people think that it's gross but I love the "anything goes" atmosphere. Also, growing up in rural PA everyone would always say that Philadelphians were assholes but the hostility that exists here is very amiable for the most part. Like you'll get into an argument with some random italian guy on the street but it's all in good fun

[Anonymous No.17064012]

>>17063827
Bro, I also grew up in rural PA and moved to Philly but this place is just trash. Are there redeeming qualities? Sure. Are there enough of them to actually redeem the place? Not really. Most of all I really hate this whole “Philly is gritty, man” attitude. It’s such a cope to justify the fact that the place you live is a fucking heap.

[Anonymous No.17064122]

Any NY anons here?

[Anonymous No.17064148]

>>17060383
Absolutely the boonies. Cities suck the soul. I've lived in cities for far too long and despise it with all my being. Everyone is a "coomer" if not sexually motivated then motivated by the coom of material gain. Nature is the inspiration.
If I had to pick a single city to tolerate it would be Reykjavík, Iceland. That's because compared to other countries it is just a large town and if you walk in any direction you will find nature and everyone is weird there so wandering around aimlessly in the countryside is seen as a reasonable activity. I despise cities and fashionableness.

[Anonymous No.17064175]

>>17064012
Eh, whatever. I love it here and feel like the good absolutely outweighs the bad. I lived here for a number of years, left, and eventually felt like I had to come back. The allure is strange and not quite rational. My dad's family is from here and there was a strange familiarity to it even when I had just arrived.

[Anonymous No.17064229]

>>17062470
In general Latinamerican cities have lower or similar murder rates to large American cities.

Philly and Washington have the same or higher murder rates than Bogota and Medellin in Colombia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HMwYu8368w

Muggings and break ins, thats a different story. But you probably wont get killed in Latam unless you're really fucking stupid, which most gringos usually are.

[Anonymous No.17064244]

>>17063827
I've been often enough that I can agree with that assessment. It's just so.
>>17064012
It's gritty and filthy and run down but it has soul. I've been to some cities that feel sterilized and artificial, and honestly Philly is better than them. Boomers especially are obsessed with creating disney park tier fake-facaded artificial little villages, and they leave me feeling uneasy and creeped out. Philly might be a dirty trash heap but it's a real place.
Also their food is legit. But all in all the crime is too out of control for me to ever live there.

[Anonymous No.17064321]

Are Seattle or Portland /lit/?
I'm in California and want to move but I can't see myself leaving the west coast.

[Anonymous No.17064377]

>>17064321
They’re certainly more /lit/ than California

[Anonymous No.17064396]

>>17064244
>It's gritty and filthy and run down but it has soul
It doesn’t. This is a Philadelphian delusion. This is a city of industrial parks overseen by law firms and healthcare bureaucracies. There’s nothing soulful about it. The food is also not even good. Philly cheesesteaks are slop on a bun. Everything else is the same restaurant shit you’ll find anywhere. How soulful is the damn Cheesecake Factory?

>>17064175
To each their own. As for me, I won’t pretend it’s not a dump.

[Anonymous No.17064406]

>>17064396
holy fuck you are dumb as shit. the best chinese i ever had was in philly's chinatown, walked into some random place and it was the most delicious thing i've ever eaten. cheesesteaks are also divine.

[Anonymous No.17064422]

>>17063014
Calabasas is just filled with nuevo riche housewives and persian hypebeast faggots anyway. Least interesting place in the SFV imo. That said, I think the san fernando valley actually might be pretty /lit/, might move out there or Van Nuys and start writing short stories once COVID ends

[Anonymous No.17064445]

>>17063166
i'd argue the place where you can have as many sexual encounters as possible; be they fueled by romanticism, narcisissm, hatred, hedonism, jealousy, all very /lit/ emotions that are only really brought out when whoremongering in some form or another

[Anonymous No.17064469]

>>17064406
You had some good Chinese takeout in Philly on one time and think that means it had a good food scene and somehow I’m the retard...?

[Anonymous No.17064474]

>>17064445
this is low-key extremely based but also dangerous advice

[Anonymous No.17064574]

>>17064469
i've eaten food in a lot of cities and I have to say Philly and Portland have the best food, hands down. Everything else is shit. SF has good Japanese but that's it.

[Anonymous No.17064583]

>>17060383
Ljubljana

[Anonymous No.17064612]

>>17064574
I think all the cheesesteaks burned out your taste buds.

[Anonymous No.17064670]

>>17064612
t. assmad flyover because i don't recognize his trashcan plate BBQ sloppile as being worthy of mention
protip m9: just slopping more cheese on shit and packing tea with enough sugar to kill someone does not good food make.

[Anonymous No.17064766]

Boston, Chicago, and selected places of NYC (South Brooklyn, Staten Island, and Queens) are the only bearable parts of Burgerland.

[Anonymous No.17064795]

>>17061172
cuándo sale una mitap porteña

[Anonymous No.17064839]

>>17064766
You must really love getting mugged, raped, and murdered, huh?

[Anonymous No.17064881]

>>17064839
dumb hick

[Anonymous No.17065020]

>>17064839
>mugged
>staten island
>boston
>non-n chicago
he didn't say camden dude

[Anonymous No.17065024]

>>17060383
manhatten is more lit than brooklyn OP

[Anonymous No.17065035]

>>17060960
>plagiarizing videogames in chinese sex-cartoon forums

[Anonymous No.17065036]

>>17064839
https://abcnews.go.com/US/tessa-majors-killing-teen-charged-juvenile-set-sentenced/story?id=71253633
kek this reminds of the chick who went to Columbia and got shanked to death

[Anonymous No.17065037]

>>17060383
Fresno, California
Lynwood, California
El Paso, Texas

in that order
CHECK IT, LIT BIATCHS .

[Anonymous No.17065057]

>>17060471
>>17060479
I'm sorry that I prefer long walks in the woods, watching the sun set over a lake and seeing the stars at night to unimaginable crime rates, loud streets and disease ridden slums. But I guess if you like being part of the system, that's your business.

[Anonymous No.17065283]

>>17064670
I live in Philly retard.

[Anonymous No.17065293]

>>17062576
I live in one of these and I hate it. It really loses its charm after age 23 or so especially when you can’t go anywhere without college kids around fucking it up.

[Anonymous No.17065313]

>>17065036
thinkin bout that corn

[Anonymous No.17065314]

>>17060605
I don't live in a big city, and although I'm aware of the soft, homogenized 30 year old urbanite, I never truly comprehended its being until I went to Berlin. I was disgusted by the amount of people that fit this criteria, especially in the newer economic areas. There was also this really sinister degenerate energy flowing around in the air. The east German areas had a lot more of the grandiosity I was expecting. Such a shame. Really, the biggest disappointment out of any city I've been to. Pretty good tram system though.

[Anonymous No.17065349]

>>17060383
Probably some place like Shamokin

[Anonymous No.17066233]

>>17065037
the only /lit/ place in Texas is Laredo. Like a fucking Cormac McCarthy novel

[Anonymous No.17066309]

>>17060605
>Lagos
lol no

[Anonymous No.17066321]

>>17062969
Honestly, I think you're right. The diaspora will be more to surrounding working class towns than to the midwest. I moved out here for a job and enjoyed it, but it isn't for /lit/ related reasons.

[Anonymous No.17066350]

>>17065314
>Berlin transformed itself into the Babel of the world. Germans brought to perversion all their vehemence and love of system. Made-up boys with artificial waistlines promenaded along the Kurfustendamm. Even ancient Rome had not known orgies like the Berlin transvestite balls, where hundreds of men in women's clothes, and women in men's clothes, danced under the benevolent eyes of the police. Amid the general collapse of values, a kind of insanity took hold of precisely those middle class circles which had been unshakeable in their order. Young ladies proudly boasted that they were perverted: to be suspected of virginity at 16 would have been a disgrace in every school in Berlin.
Stefan Zweig

[Anonymous No.17066422]

would like to live in Louisville

[Anonymous No.17066426]

>>17060960
>Cyberflop 2077

[Anonymous No.17066459]

>>17060644
*HonHonHon
HoHoHo is Santa

[Anonymous No.17066477]

>>17066459
did i just experience the ereignis of "honhonhon"

[Anonymous No.17066504]

>>17060605
I can tell you are a lying far leftist

[Anonymous No.17066510]

>>17060756
IQ is your innate biological IQ, nothing will change to Africa, equally better schools wont make leftists smarter.

[Anonymous No.17066813]

>>17061491
Unironicly one of the most soulful large city in Canada and USA. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Anonymous No.17066952]

>>17060383
Not in your lifetime bucko

[Anonymous No.17066973]

Sure, if you want to deal with this everyday.
https://youtu.be/LIVJGVPWWa0

[Anonymous No.17066985]

small town northern england

[Anonymous No.17066990]

>>17060383
>What is the most /lit/ place to live
Wet rocky field in western Ireland. Extra points if it's an island.

[Anonymous No.17067664]

>>17060383
non-capital eastern euro cities are pretty comfy overall

[Anonymous No.17067680]

>>17060399
this

[Anonymous No.17067971]

>>17066813
for sure anon... my favorite place ive ever lived, by far. coming up on 20 years here next Feb.

[Anonymous No.17068060]

>>17060960
>This city’s always got a promise for you. Might be a lie, an illusion, but it’s there... just around the corner - and it keeps you going.
Every mega city function like this. You think you will be on top of the world, and you end up in a small 2 room overpriced flat. It's especially hard for roasties, living in a one room appartment, alone, approaching 35, alone. At least, at this age, a man can get his shit together, lift metal like his life depends on it, and find some women. For women, at 35, alone in a megacity, working in an office in some obscure company, it's over.

[Anonymous No.17068114]

>>17060987
Sounds like most western megacity again.

[Anonymous No.17068141]

>>17060768
fwiw i grew up in nyc and have been to every major city in america and a few in canada and mexico.
to this day, even now no city compares to nyc. idk what the criteria these people are judging nyc by.. but in terms of nightlife, things to do, things to see, even the grittiness, nyc still comes out on top. toronto wishes it was nyc. la has good weather and beaches, but no. i liked iquitos in peru, because its literally right next to the jungle and you can do ayahuasca with natives...but other than that no place really comes to mind.

i have also been to rural areas in america and other countries though and i do prefer the rural areas. people are overrated.

ive never been to cali, colombia but i heard that place is coming up.

[Anonymous No.17068239]

>>17064469
>>17064612
>numerous specialty and ethnic grocery stores
>unbelievable indian and ethiopian food in west philly
>best beer bar in the country and tons of great breweries
>reanimator coffee
>temple university food trucks
>fine dining for any cuisine imaginable
>lorenzo's pizza
>water ice and soft pretzels
>the so-called "philly muffin"
I could go on. Cheesesteaks are fine, the most popular ones do them a disservice. But you're crazy if you think the food here isn't good.

[Anonymous No.17068371]

Indiana

[Anonymous No.17068548]

>>17060514
Lived both in Budapest and Prague. They are shitholes. But I guess having a thousand year or so history does appeal to uncultured amerifags

Now I live a 20 people populated village in the hills. Tending to animals, daily forestwalks and hiking, actual work where I do something with my body not just rot away in a chair.

It's great. It can also suck, as having 20 people around you is still too much people

[Anonymous No.17068581]

>>17060605
>Johannesburg
lmao. Why do people say shit like this. You have never been there, what makes you think you can pass judgement on it.

[Anonymous No.17068798]

Towns AND cities suck. Everything about living is fucking gay. Both places are filled with degenerates, white trash, non-whites and drug users of the hard variety.
Nuke everything and let this gay earth end already.

[Anonymous No.17068807]

>>17068239
You could make a list like this for any major city. Our food is not good. Period. I don’t really know what else to say.

[Anonymous No.17068817]

>>17068548
Okay asshole. Your opinion sounds pretty much worthless.

[Anonymous No.17068888]

>>17068817
Says a monolingual amerifat who can't even own guns in the small cage which takes away 80% of his wage

[Anonymous No.17068929]

Whenever I end up following my curiosity on wikipedia, I find myself looking at small towns in France.

[Anonymous No.17068995]

>>17068888
I speak 4 languages and have lived in 5 countries

You’re a misanthropic retard and your opinion is worthless

[Anonymous No.17069001]

>>17068888
I also probably own more guns than you count so cope and seethe harder

[Anonymous No.17069062]

>>17068995
>>17069001
Nice cope, cityboy

[Anonymous No.17069130]

>>17069001
>>17068888
Lol, why retards talk about owning guns like its something to be proud of?

Good job wasting your money on shit you'll never use, I hope you feel like special forces now.

[Anonymous No.17069172]

>>17069130
Why do you assume I don’t use it?

Fwiw the reason I own so many guns is because my grandfather started a successful firearms related business so I have that collection as well as his personal collection and use many of them for hunting. I also wasn’t bragging about it. I was just dismissing his allegation because he was using it as a way of attacking me by insinuating something. I’m not even a city boy (anymore) like he’s implying. I’ve lived in New York (and cities overseas) but I don’t anymore and I didn’t grow up there.

He just started with insults for no reason at all by calling me uncultured. Basically, fuck him and his opinion is all I’m trying to say.

[Anonymous No.17070095]

>>17061172
the only right answer

[Anonymous No.17070235]

>>17061029
>Spent 2 years as a kid and 2 years as a teen there
>San Fran
You ain't never lived in the bay bayby