weird thought about "nirvana"

[Anonymous No.17046555]

As somebody who approaches transcendental types of spirituality from a natural individualistic/egoistic point of view, it seems very profound and revelatory that the ego could be illusory and that the higher truth is that "all is one" etc etc. But hypothetically from somebody coming the other way, couldnt it also be revelatory and a nirvana type of experience to awaken to your inescapably isolated and individual subjective experience? Like your ego is an absolute inescapable reality that you must contend with despite having been indoctrinated that you are formless and one with the universe or something. That your subjective individuality is the profound truth to be realized and the one-ness is the illusion. you know what i mean broskies.

tldr considering "nirvana" as an expansive oneness with all vs as the exact opposite of the stark inescapable reality of your you-ness

[Anonymous No.17046638]

not very coherent OP

[Anonymous No.17046744]

in the morning when i pee it feel good

[Anonymous No.17046819]

>>17046638
sry here's another attempt:
imagine a bizzarro world where an "enlightened" state of mind is the norm, ie everyone is walking around with a sense that "all is one" and their sense of ego is extremely weak. To them, that "enlightened" state of mind seems banal and familiar rather than profound (like it might seem to us). Imagine that for them, they develop a concept of enlightenment that is the opposite of our's, where the ultimate realization that they strive towards and which transcends the mundane is that all is NOT one, and rather that they are deeply separated from the all, and that they distinct individuals.

[Anonymous No.17046835]

>>17046555
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[Anonymous No.17046865]

>>17046835
Think of it as a sci fi plot. Also posted here because I've seen threads about similar topics in the past week. Jannies feel free to move this to /his/

[Anonymous No.17046879]

>>17046819
ok but why

[Anonymous No.17047016]

>>17046879
idk like just imagine bro like wouldn't that be trippyy??

[Anonymous No.17047984]

>>17046865
Well when it's put this way >>17046819 it seems like a bizzaro ghost in the shell.

[Anonymous No.17047991]

>>17046819
>>17046555
I agree OP

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[Anonymous No.17048219]

>>17047991
hmm i guess that's what it is sorta

[Anonymous No.17048449]

there would be no society if everyone was enligtened

we only have society based on everyone being a self/ego/mind disctinct from others

[Anonymous No.17048519]

>>17048449
I imagine a society of enlightened individuals would look like a starving 3rd world village with rampant hunger and disease but where everyone was smiling and met their ends with grace

[Anonymous No.17048569]

>>17046819
your error is assuming the need for enlightenment in the first first, which is really just recycling the semetic concept of the fall and subsequent redemption. enlightenment as base level wouldn't require or even have a concept of this teleology. there'd be no fallen state to escape from

[Anonymous No.17048676]

>>17048569
maybe what i've described is actually the story of the fall? (or is that what you were saying). Maybe the concept of "enlightnement" is a relative thing that relies on transcending whatever state you are currently in, so for a formless all encompassing self, transcendence would be fragmentation or confiement to a single subjective experience. Maybe that's what jesus was? woooah trippyyyy

[Anonymous No.17050090]

>discussing nirvana