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Is this the book that will define the decade?

>> No.17036177

Its just pol rambling

>> No.17036189

>>17036148
I trust men who grow beards and wear beanies. They are the most reliable sources.

>> No.17036245

>>17036148
I know trannies are tarded but this is such a blatant shill, fuck off

>> No.17036258

>>17036148
wtf

>> No.17036267

>>17036177
>>17036189
Yawn. It's a very well-researched book and while OP is being hyperbolic, I think it's an important book because it's, as far as I know, the first of its kind to address this topic.

>> No.17036283

>>17036148
No, because despite what all the alarmists on 4chan would have you believe transgenderism is nowhere near the existential threat it's made out to be. It's just another in a long series of panicked finger pointing so you don't notice the hand in your pocket.

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>>17036148
>tfw its radical not to teach children to mutilate their genitals

What the fucks guys

>> No.17036361

>>17036283
The threat is that people will swallow a crime against the moral law if the media industrial complex tells them to.

>> No.17036375

>>17036283
>No, because despite what all the alarmists on 4chan would have you believe transgenderism is nowhere near the existential threat it's made out to be.
Why don't you read the book? You'll probably change your mind on that one.
> It's just another in a long series of panicked finger pointing so you don't notice the hand in your pocket.
Why can't both happen? Transgenderism is just one aspect of globalist capitalist dystopia.

>> No.17036378

>>17036361
The "threat" is that you get your fuckin panties in a twist over "moral law" and happily support abusive economic structures you're too stupid to understand.

>> No.17036389

>>17036378
No, the threat is you've been so desensitized and alienated that you don't get your panties in a twist about what's happening to vulnerable children.

>> No.17036394

>>17036378
Commies really think that le surplus value is some kind of esoteric knowledge only they know about in the year 2020

>> No.17036417

>>17036375
>probably change your mind
Until transgenderism is a common phenomenon and not just a convenient signifier that people adopt to make their personal insecurity a social problem I doubt that will happen. But it will especially not take place with another "THEY'RE KILLING ESSENTIALISM TO RULE YOU" screed written by moralist retards.

>> No.17036422

>>17036378
I don't like our economic structures either faggot. Both are rooted in the same lack of proper metaphysics. That transexual acceptance is the canary in the coal mine for a much deeper problem is what you're too stupid to understand

>> No.17036436

>>17036394
Yeah, because I'm talking about surplus value and not the devaluation of labor rights, tort reform, rent seeking, corporate graft in government, and the refusal to extend shareholder rights to employee advocates. Not everyone who opposes our system is a marxist.

>> No.17036449

>>17036267
>first 15 pages are a tirade about da joos

>> No.17036453

I killed my dog and I liked it
he had to die but i liked it

>> No.17036455

>>17036449
Name one person in the tranny business who isn't a Jew. I can only think of John Money

>> No.17036465

>>17036422
>lack of proper metaphysics
Circular. "If people all the thought the same way there'd be no exploitation." What a thrilling and high-minded conclusion. Fixing the economic structure is possible without having to bullshit over you moral hysteria is possible, and if the two are really connected, then doing one will fix the other. But you don't think the two are connected, you were happy getting shafted for decades so long as politicized buzzwords like "family values" were on the lips of those doing it.

>> No.17036471

>>17036417
Have you done any research into the subject? The fact that you don't see many transgender people around you doesn't mean they don't exist and aren't increasing in number rapidly.
> not just a convenient signifier that people adopt to make their personal insecurity a social problem
But this is exactly what the book is about, this is used in order to mutilate children and rob them of their futures. It's just one of many alleys in which transhumanism is propagated, but a very heinous way it is.

>> No.17036479

>>17036449
So? If some jews are responsible we should call them out, no?

>> No.17036485

>>17036471
Your hysteria over transgender children is overblown. They are still uncommon

>> No.17036498

>>17036485
would you rather address the problem when there's a million of them or when there's a 1000 of them, now?

>> No.17036537

>>17036465
A little lesson for you: you aren't smarter than everyone and you can't extrapolate their entire worldview from a sentence.

The circularity of the statement is a linguistic necessity, that doesn't mean the truth of the statement isn't foundational. 1 + 1 = 2 is a foundational assertion, but if you ever try to prove it the proof is only ever circular. Because you cannot prove a foundational Truth, it is simply self-evident. So what I'm saying is yes, there is a foundational moral truth that is too complex for humans to grasp. That doesn't mean there is no moral truth, anymore than saying 'there is a physical universe that is too complex to grasp' invalidates the existence of the physical universe.

And you say fixing the one fixes the other- this is true, but I believe we need to fix both concurrently. We can't order the material conditions of world without ordering the spiritual conditions of our world, which is to say without accepting a worldview which compels people to change their material conditions.

stop being a fucking know it all twat. You do not know it all.

>> No.17036539

>>17036498
I would rather not believe in retarded theories that posit that such things are somehow contagious. Every absolutist shits his pants when he sees a shift like this, panicking that everyone is going to adopt what he doesn't like even though he thinks his own paradigm is natural. Transgenderism will only every have allure to a small subset of body dismorphics, everyone else is just larping. Even the communities who come together over regret of their transition remain small percentages of those who change their identity.

>> No.17036554

>>17036537
You misunderstand. You're statement isn't circular because it's founded on an axiom, your statement is circular because you are alleging that social conflict is caused by people being in disunity with one another. It's like saying "if everyone was for peace there'd be no war." Not that your "evident moral truth" isn't retarded for other reasons.

>> No.17036555

>>17036148
lmao it's already deleted from amazon and the google search only brings up goodreads and some negative review

I hope these fuckers die a painful death

>> No.17036558
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>>17036267
>well researched
>whole book is just pic related
>massive cope

>> No.17036588

>>17036554
Which means the circularity of my statement is true- we do need to unify people under a single worldview for there to be stability. If we can agree on that, I wonder why you're so butt fucked over me thinking we shouldn't act like genital mutilation is a good thing

>> No.17036590

>>17036558
Nice way of letting us know you didn't read it and/or were filtered by the introduction.

>> No.17036595

>>17036588
>Restates premise
>You can see I restated my premise so therefore it's true
I don't even need to answer this it stands at face value

>> No.17036604

>>17036595
Nice pilpul, but do you agree that genital mutilation is wrong and shouldn't be allowed?

>> No.17036621

>>17036595
You dumb nigger its clear we need unity of perspective in the subjective realm for there to be unity of action in the material world. This is an axiomatic truth of reality, its an ontological truth, its foundational. You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between foundational and circular.

>> No.17036629

>>17036604
I think each individual has a right over there own body. Unless their decision poses a danger to others, a danger to themselves, or impacts their ability to live a normal life.

>> No.17036636

>>17036148
Lol ever since BAP /lit/ is just one big shill opportunity for e-celebs and wanna-be e-celebs. For someone who writes so much about trannies, this behavior is reminiscent that of homosexuals and women.

>> No.17036637

>>17036629
Who gets to define
>danger to others
>danger to themselves
>normal life

is beating off on my front lawn a danger to others? I'm ready to put libertarians up against the wall, honestly

>> No.17036654

>>17036621
My god you really are a retard. You can't HAVE unity in perspective, first of all. And second, saying that we should just unify everyone to solve all our problems is literally saying nothing. "We should just solve our social problems by making people agree!!" Fucking brilliant, why didn't I think of that? It's almost like that isn't possible, has never been the case, and is a state that's so contradictory with human nature that people who push it have to spend all their mental energy inventing enemies that ruined it rather than except it's simply not the way things are.

>> No.17036656

>>17036148
>ababababa the jews are behind it all!

genius, yeah this will go down well with the mainstream. its a shame to waste all that research just to deliver the baby bird brain take on the identity of the ruling class.

>> No.17036663

>>17036637
As far as medicine is concerned, no, beating off in your front lawn is not going to harm other people.

>> No.17036667

>>17036629
And what about children? What if their parents decide for them? That's what this book is about.

>> No.17036673

>>17036656
Who cares what the mainstream thinks. If jews are behind it they should be called out. They don't get immunity from criticism.

>> No.17036688

>>17036654
We have enough unity in perspective to associate the same meanings with the same words in the english language. 100,000 years ago humans did not have this unity. We have enough unity as a species to collectively believe in and use science. 5000 years ago humans did not have this unity. Progression towards unity is fundamental to reality's process, and clearly you believe in it too, as the alternative is progress towards disunity. You just don't understand that my positing a metaphysical truth is not the same as saying we can accomplish it tomorrow. It will take hundreds if not thousands of years, but make no mistake, unity of subjectivity is the fundamental process at play in reality.

>> No.17036693

>>17036667
Parents have medical power of attorney until child is 18, as usual

>> No.17036699

>>17036663
As far as medicine is concerned asking a 10 year old if he'd suck my cock for 1000 dollars is not going to harm other people.
>Still observing the NAP

>> No.17036704

>>17036688
>humans did not have this unity
Wrong on both counts, language because it is fundamental to consciousness; Science because this unity doesn't really exist today, either.

>> No.17036721

>>17036699
Are you trying to get at the argument that medicine should limit what the individual does to their body out of moral hazard? That's not the way it works, gender reassignment only affects the individual, comparing it to something like indecent exposure is a false equivalency.

>> No.17036724

The problem with the book is that it's very normie-unfriendly. It names the joow right off the bat and this will scare the onions. The dramaturgy is all wrong, it should carefully lead the reader to the nose.

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>>17036693
And what's your opinion on parents being influenced to abuse their children in this manner, with the children being manipulated?

>> No.17036732

>>17036704
Matter of degrees, the progression is clear.

>> No.17036735

>>17036148
Chad is getting uncontrollably redpilled

>> No.17036753

>>17036729
>to abuse their children in this manner
Parents cannot coerce their child into gender reassignment. If you're insinuating that the child was inculcated into gender reassignment to the point where parents unwittingly go along with it, then parents aren't equipped to make medical decisions for their child anyway. Either we establish a principle that the parents know what's best in these matters or we deny it, you can't have a law that says "they get to make this decision but only within a social paradigm of my choosing." They either have the right or they don't.

>> No.17036763

>>17036732
>the progression is clear
Choosing to adopt a standard is not tendency toward unity of perspective unless you deny interiority outright.

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>mfw I enter this thread

>> No.17036793

>>17036763
You're retarded. Meditate on it you may realize

>> No.17036813

>>17036793
>No argument
No surprise. You're the one stating that unity of perspective is antecedent to behavior in the empirical, but your historical theory has it the other way around.

>> No.17036818

Someone share the MEGA download again

>> No.17036823

>>17036768
The fuck is this

>> No.17037020

where can i get this book, i will read it and believe everything in it just because amazon and google is censoring it

>> No.17037035

>>17036558
what if it >is< the jews ?

>> No.17037053

>>17036378
>pretending Capital isn't all-in on woke consumerism in which tranny ideology is a cornerstone
Bourgeois degeneracy.

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>>17036693
So if you'd been transgendered by your parents at age 13 you'd have no problem with it then?

>> No.17037072

>>17036148
OP is just the youtuber shilling his own channel.

>> No.17037075

>>17037035
It isn't
source: me

>> No.17037083

>>17036267
Hey Scott Howard. Your book sucks. I downloaded a PDF and read it. My advice is therapy, of course there are quicker fixes, but I'll leave those for you to ponder.

>> No.17037093

>>17036267
Actually, Adorno wrote about this phenomenon in a 1939 work titled "The Culture Industry."

>> No.17037291

>>17037083
>my advice is therapy
Read Foucault retard

>> No.17038010

>>17036148
His channel name is oil philosophy
could this mean...

>> No.17038077

>>17037083
>My advice is therapy

The problem is that the therapists just tell me I'm transgender and try to push hormones on me. Got any other advice?

>> No.17038086

>>17036449
>>17036558
Not very scientific of you to discount a potential cause.

>> No.17038090

>>17037053
yup

>> No.17038101

The scary thing is that there is at least one of these seethe posts is a shit smelling transfaggot

>> No.17038108

The vitriolic reaction this book has received must mean it's touched a nerve.

>> No.17038115

>>17036148
Possibly.

Murray dealt with transgenderism a bit in his book as well and it's actually disgusting what is going on.

The repercussions will be horrible.

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>>17036148
>anyone who shits on this book is a kike or shilling for kike tricks
>anyone supporting this book is Scott Howard or shilling for Scott Howard marketing
I take no sides, antelope hill is a classy publisher though

>> No.17038152

>>17036537
>1 + 1 = 2 is a foundational assertion, but if you ever try to prove it the proof is only ever circular.
Literally everything in that sentence is wrong. Stick to long-winded pseud sophistry.
t. mathfag

>> No.17038167

>>17036148
No opinion on this but the amount of mtf trannies I've seen in the past 2 years has been unreal

>> No.17038203

>>17038152
You must be an undergrad or new to set theory since set theory really is a post hoc justification in the end, so what he's saying is basically right.

>> No.17038210

>>17036148
Nope, Machinga will.

>> No.17038249

>>17038203
>pseud goes all in
This has nothing to do with set theory at all. There's no need to try and feign competence by poorly stringing together what remains of your high school math and abridged short summary of Witty you read that one time.

>> No.17038252

>>17036673
the mainstream matters in the sense that its self defeating to play into the liberal stereotype that anyone who opposes them is a jew hating stormtrooper. even if i agreed that the jews were behind it all, the book has no social sensitivity to this at all. it just hits you over the head with it without explanation or justification which is jarring against all the other well researched stuff he is talking about.

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>>17038139
>antelope hill is a classy publisher though
agreed, I bought a couple of there books last night. I'm interested in their upcoming titles too, specifically chechen blues

>> No.17038281

>>17038249
I'm a different anon who is an actual mathematician.

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>>17036177
>>17036245
>>17036283
>>17036378
>>17036417
>>17036449
>>17036485
>>17036558
>>17036636
>>17036656
>>17037072
>>17037083

>> No.17038418

>>17038281
I don't think a sophomore enlightened by his own intelligence can rightfully call himself a mathematician. There's any number of ways one can derive naturals, including many that aren't based on any flavor of set or cathegory theory. Addition of multiplicative identities is never an axiom in any well-defined arithmetic and its proof is never circular. Now take your Rudin and go back to begging for homework solutions and vaccine hoax threads on /sci/.

>> No.17038474

>>17038418
None of this is relevant and you see you already have to resort to lashing out. All of our foundations were built up with the already in place reals and naturals in mind. Do you think we were ever going to seriously work with any axioms that destroyed our notions of the natural numbers? No, of course not.

>> No.17038516

>>17038152
I am that anon. You cannot use language to assert foundational truths, i.e. 1 + 1 = 2, but if anyone asks you to justify your claim all you can do is gesture to 2 things and say "Look, there are 2 not 1." Truth at its most fundamental is just self-evidence. Same reason that philosophers like Daniel Dennette can deny consciousness. Its just self evident

>> No.17038527

>>17038474
>None of this is relevant
All of this is relevant as it directly addresses both the fallacious statements in the initial quote.
>All of our foundations...
Good, so you took the advice to stop pretending and go back to sophistry. Pro-tip: handwavy babby understanding of math history doesn't really compensate for being a technical dilettante.

>> No.17038543

>>17038077
Oh Scott, stop it, your sweatin up the place.

>> No.17038547

>>17038527
Bro just prove 1 + 1 = 2 for me in a non circular way for me. If all you say is 1 + 1 = 2 then you're asserting foundational truth retard

>> No.17038548

>>17038418
>>17038474
>>17038516
>>17038527

Math is fake and gay. It will never solve the Eternal Questions of Creation (just like philosophy)

>> No.17038549

Holy shit, I thought /pol/ was a bit annoying sometimes with the endless shilling of conservative authors (which I actually enjoy), but dilating trannies are like a thousand times worse.
this might be the end of 4chan

>> No.17038554

>>17038516
>foundational truths, i.e. 1 + 1 = 2
This is not a foundational truth. It might look like a truism to layman, but it's not.

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>>17038272
those schmitt and de riviera anthologies are going to be wonderful on my bookshelf

>> No.17038557

>>17038549
zoomers/chapotrannies ruined most of the internet

>> No.17038571

>>17038556
What kind of topics does the publisher delves into? Some interesting stuff you'd recommend?

>> No.17038573

>>17038554
What are your foundational truths? If you have none, you have nothing at all

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>>17038272
>A (mysterious) first-time-in-English translation from French

Possibly???

>> No.17038608

>>17038527
2 is just shorthand for 1+1. We choose axioms to put what we already used on a rigorous understanding. You can say well, 1+1=2 is not circular because blah blah blah peano blah blah blah but again, we choose these axioms to place our already in use mathematics on a more rigorous foundation. The claim is substantially true and you appear unable to argue against this in any specific way.

>> No.17038632

>>17038557
unironically this. I think most /pol/tards are fucking retards, but at least a lot of them have a spark of authenticity to them in their excessive retardation. but chapocells seems to actively try to suck out the energy and magic of everything into a quagmire of crypto /pol/ speak they reflect verbatum from /pol/ and vangaurding.

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>>17036485
>>17036485
Go diliate. Capitalism has been working round the clock to target children and strip them into amorphous blobs of consumption
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/age-trans-individuals-us/

>> No.17038669

>>17038632
Somehow even more irony poisoned than poltards too. Just a tedious through and through

>> No.17038671

>>17036148
why do you faggots keep shilling this book

>> No.17038681

>>17038571
https://www.antelopehillpublishing.com/upcoming
Heres their site if you want to look at what they got

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>>17036724
Ya but tranny fatigue is peaking (and will continue to do so. Enough magatards might be willing to cross the line just because this book is the first of its kind.

>> No.17038752

>>17038608
>You can say well, blah blah blah blah blah blah
Yeah, this has been the core of your argument so far.
>we choose these axioms to place our already in use mathematics on a more rigorous foundation
Again, you seem to be let down by your very handwavy undestanding of the subject. Yes, most mathematic discoveries start with intuition and intuition is rooted in knowledge we already posess, that doesn't however in any way imply that a straightforward derivation from axioms is circular. Another kind of being, might not have as much interest in naturals as we do by virtue of our biology and living envirnoment, however it would still be able to construct such numbers and deduce their remarkable properties in much the same way we do.

>> No.17038800

>>17038752
Well getting bogged down in formalism is a great sign of a pretty lousy understanding of mathematics for one, which is why you defer to distant abstraction.
In other words you understand exactly what he means by "+" and "1" and then try and avoid that we have in fact taken "1+1=2" as an axiom right up until our foundational issues. It's a really typical deflection by students who don't actually understand the guts behind the abstraction. For all intents and purposes, it's a definition or a tautology, and only ceases to be one if you want to dive into possible alternative systems of maths. Since we're not discussing irrelevant
alternatives here, these are pointless semantics.

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https://mega.nz/file/Fkh2BRbB

jsRXuuZPuXrDlarJgl03JXEnXOcQVoJMj_dnRhoSW4Y

> ITS DA JOOOOOOOS

Proven history of subversive activity around the globe.

>> No.17039021

>>17038800
>In other words you understand exactly what he means by "+" and "1" and then try and avoid that we have in fact taken "1+1=2" as an axiom right up until our foundational issues.
I'm not avoiding anything, you keep mixing up historical process and logical connections. Yes, math primarily goes from concrete to abstract and concrete is usually informed by our immediate material needs. Natural numbers happened to be the most useful and our intuitive understanding worked well enough in practice, hence there was no need for digging deeper for a long while. That does not however mean that logically 1+1=2 is a truism. Your argument is as retarded as claiming "two parallel lines are equidistant" is a truism, because for most of our history we held Euclidean geometry to be the non plus ultra.
>For all intents and purposes, it's a definition or a tautology, and only ceases to be one if you want to dive into possible alternative systems of maths. Since we're not discussing irrelevant alternatives here, these are pointless semantics.
For all intents and purposes you're out of actual arguments, so you declare anything that doesn't fit into your naive understanding to be irrelevant.

>> No.17039088

>>17038286
I am this >>17036636 poster. I’m sorry that you are too retarded to realize that last sentence of my post was meant to be ironic. The first half is still correct. Thanks for shilling, Mr.Howard

>> No.17039116

>>17036471
Transhumanism isn't an inherently bad idea. Transumanists are the ones coming up with more and more functional prosthetics, and trying to figure out how to technologically upgrade humans to keep up with machines.
Much like any other area of study, it faces moral issues like, "should a 12 year old be allowed to irreversibly alter their physical body without their parents' consent?"
The answer to that question is obviously no but it's not stopping people from pushing it.

>> No.17039142

>>17036148
I don’t need a book to know that trannyism is gross

>> No.17039153

>>17039116
>Transumanists are the ones coming up with more and more functional prosthetics
Yes, there are people who develop incredibly sophisticated mechanical joints and brain interfaces, therefore men in dresses are women and children who wonder what it's like to be of another sex should immediately be put on hormone blockers.

>> No.17039183

>>17039153
Obviously you didn't read all of my post where I say
>Much like any other area of study, it faces moral issues like, "should a 12 year old be allowed to irreversibly alter their physical body without their parents' consent?"
>the answer to that question is obviously no but it's not stopping people from pushing it.

>> No.17039347

>>17039183
The beginning of your post is disingenuous, so the rest doesn't matter. Modern day trannies aren't some cyberpunk body augmentation advocates, nor are they convinced dualists, they're mostly just attention starved degenerates. None of their actions are based on philosophical beliefs, they are motivated solely by desire to provoke a reaction and be noticed. Contemporary trannyism isn't a form of applied transhumanism, it's a cry for attention from desperately unremarkable people.

>> No.17039376

whats it about

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>>17037093
Faggot looks like he founded the transgender industrial complex.

>> No.17039389

>>17039386
Holy fuck how can people look like this

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>>17036283
I know you and lots of other people here hate /pol/tards and Neo-Nazis but ironically the side it’s easy to dislike and ridicule can bring up some good points mainstream media and academia stays hush about.

Howard’s approach is very brusque and offputting for some people, he has no qualms about constantly pointing out that this scientist or activist is a Jew, etc., also has the frequent tangents supporting white nationalism and whatnot. but there’s even a good milquetoast liberal version, “Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing our Daughters” by Abigail Shrier, who’s fully on the wave of feminism and LGBT rights ***for people she believes have genuine gender dysphasia.”

But whether you’re a full-blown member of Antifa or a Brenton-Tarant-worshiper, it’s honestly worth looking at the phenomenon of rapid onset gender dysphoria, in which insecure adolescents and young adults with mental illnesses get taken in by trans influencers online as well as friends of theirs coming out as trans (largely girls, Shrier points out), and LGBT ideology being pushed in schools to students at young ages, and you have these statistically improbable cases of several teenage girls in a school district who never displayed gender dysphoria all of a sudden coming out as trans one after the other. They listen to these Tumblr and YouTube influencers who say “Cut off your parents if they don’t support your decision to transition or use your new names and pronouns, let the queer family accept you, etc.”

The doctors also are mostly encouraged to totally listen to the patients saying they have gender dysphoria, which is ironic because they’re not supposed to listen to anorexic or bulimic patients uncritically and tell them they are indeed too fat and need to get even skinnier. Then the psychiatrists and researchers who dare to come out and suggest we shouldn’t be so 100% on board about encouraging every kid or teen who claims they have gender dysphoria to transition, they get attacked by the cancel culture mobs, repudiated by their universities, etc. it’s conveniently glossed over that puberty blockers and HRT increases the risk of certain cancers and can even decrease IQ by interfering with brain development at this crucial age.

>> No.17039466

>>17036148
Is this the new /lit/ meme book of the month.
Last month it was the Learned Disguise.

>> No.17039481

>>17039457
It's all capitalisms fault.

>> No.17039501

>>17039021
The point here is that you're well aware he meant 2 as 1+1 by definition and you, like the rest of the mediocre maths students who like to get wrapped up in formalism, declared this as incorrect because of an appeal to abstraction, which abstraction is really utterly irrelevant, and isn't necessary. And if you understand the basic ideas behind foundations, not just the formalism, you understand there's no point in arguing against "1+1=2" not being a truism for practical purposes. There's no reason at all why this is not a totally valid definition to make, and the only people who think this way are pure maths students who get stuck in a juvenile mindset equating abstraction with holiness.
And yes, by the same token when someone says two parallel lines are equidistant, only a midwit interjects with "not in a non euclidean space" when it's utterly irrelevant and the context is perfectly well understood.
This debate is irrelevant to the thread so go ahead and think up a witty reply.

>> No.17039553

>>17039481
Is there a certain group who has happened to be on top throughout the history of capitalism?

>> No.17039559

>>17036283
>transgenderism is nowhere near the existential threat it's made out to be.

it depends on your country. In some areas of Britain it's getting pretty bad. Children growing up in the anglosphere internet are subjected to a lot of online grooming cults for lack of a better word. Picture furfaggotry, but instead of being an eccentric paraphilia masturbatory habit that goes away once demands of adult life set in, it encourages the use of drugs that cause irrevocable change in a child's biochemistry.

>> No.17039572

>>17039553
Just calling it DA JOOZ leaves out all the other rich people that should be ate.

>> No.17039595

>>17039559
>In some areas of Britain it's getting pretty bad.
In Britain trannyism is pushed by the infamous Tavistock institute. No joke, look it up.

>> No.17039696

>>17039481
Well yes, Howard gets into this too (disclaimer: I haven’t finished reading the whole book, in fact I’m still pretty early into it). He points out how lucrative gender reassignment surgeries and hormone replacement therapy is for Big Pharma and hospitals.

Everyone knows antisemitism is a pleb take btw, the real conspirators are ancient Sumerian royal bloodlines with reptilian genetics interbreeding carefully and secretly till today, appearing now as elite Jewish banking families, the Black Nobility, the British royal family, and more

>> No.17039741

>>17039696
Well yeah, a private medical sector that refuses to treat mental health stemming from oppressively stressful working conditions in the age of nihilistic consumerism would make anyone listen to insane youtubers. I mean, I get the whole trans thing. Like being ashamed of being a fat ass, so you lose weight. But I don't think flipping a gender is going to solve the systemic societal issues that makes someone unstable enough to believe that it will. It's all so fucked up and I just feel sad about it.

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>>17039741
Turn to God. He’s not limited by any religion. You don’t have to go to any church or LARP by reading all the books of some religion you choose randomly, or even many different religions (as is becoming common today amongst a growing minority of “DIY-religion-cobbled-together-from-different-cultures” scholars). The real relationship with God is instantaneous, immediate, and without reference to this or that person or worry about your social standing or job or appearance or the disintegrating state of the world.

The media and news, whether mainstream or alternative conspiracy sites and blogs and books, gives you a limited view of reality. You get obsessed with hearsay, with Stirnerian spooks: “Wow, violent Black Lives Matter and Antifa protests are tearing up some parts of the country and the hypocritical mainstream media refuses to report it.” “Wow, some of these transgender kids have terribly poor outcomes but the mainstream media, schools, and universities are committed to having a 100% cheery view on transgenderism and cancel anyone who speaks out against it.”

All this may be true, but it’s nonsensical to let it touch your inner core. Realize how much of your sadness, as well as your view on reality, comes from screens. You’re addicted to screens (TV screens, phone screens, laptop and computer screens) blaring apocalyptic, pessimistic propaganda to you precisely for more views, more clicks, more money. They are there to capture your attention and warp your soul with figments of reality, simulations which become more real and vivid than your own basic immediate living reality. Instead of actually living your life and even enjoying simple things like the taste of food, the feeling of exercise, reading inspiring literature or listening to good music, talking to people you love, etc., you become mesmerized by screens and addicted to complaining about what political trend, fad, or irrelevant happening is going on now.

You are your own man. You are not Donald Trump or Joe Biden, your inmost soul doesn’t care about the Democratic or Republican Party, or about SJW twitter/Tumblr/discord/reddit trannies vs. deranged /pol/ and StormFront alt-righters, white supremacists, full-blown Neo-Nazis and worshipers of mass murderers, etc. It’s all just an ephemeral spook cast up by your mind, an egregious of deranged robotic Earthlings who are simply the toy of Lovecraftian cosmic immaterial entities possessing the masses and turning them against each other, inciting war, chaos, irrationality and hatred.

You will not change the world of politics. You will be the next Gandhi or Hitler or Napoleon or great religious prophet.

You are nothing. You are not made for fame. You will have no effect on which way the insane masses go. Your lifespan on Earth is limited. Don’t spend it being miserable about mass trends you can’t have control over. I’m drunk.

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>>17039741 #
Turn to God. He’s not limited by any religion. You don’t have to go to any church or LARP by reading all the books of some religion you choose randomly, or even many different religions (as is becoming common today amongst a growing minority of “DIY-religion-cobbled-together-from-different-cultures” scholars). The real relationship with God is instantaneous, immediate, and without reference to this or that person or worry about your social standing or job or appearance or the disintegrating state of the world.

The media and news, whether mainstream or alternative conspiracy sites and blogs and books, gives you a limited view of reality. You get obsessed with hearsay, with Stirnerian spooks: “Wow, violent Black Lives Matter and Antifa protests are tearing up some parts of the country and the hypocritical mainstream media refuses to report it.” “Wow, some of these transgender kids have terribly poor outcomes but the mainstream media, schools, and universities are committed to having a 100% cheery view on transgenderism and cancel anyone who speaks out against it.”

All this may be true, but it’s nonsensical to let it touch your inner core. Realize how much of your sadness, as well as your view on reality, comes from screens. You’re addicted to screens (TV screens, phone screens, laptop and computer screens) blaring apocalyptic, pessimistic propaganda to you precisely for more views, more clicks, more money. They are there to capture your attention and warp your soul with figments of reality, simulations which become more real and vivid than your own basic immediate living reality. Instead of actually living your life and even enjoying simple things like the taste of food, the feeling of exercise, reading inspiring literature or listening to good music, talking to people you love, etc., you become mesmerized by screens and addicted to complaining about what political trend, fad, or irrelevant happening is going on now.

You are your own man. You are not Donald Trump or Joe Biden, your inmost soul doesn’t care about the Democratic or Republican Party, or about SJW twitter/Tumblr/discord/reddit trannies vs. deranged /pol/ and StormFront alt-righters, white supremacists, full-blown Neo-Nazis and worshipers of mass murderers, etc. It’s all just an ephemeral spook cast up by your mind, an egregore made up of deranged robotic Earthlings who are simply the toy of Lovecraftian cosmic immaterial entities possessing the masses and turning them against each other, inciting war, chaos, irrationality and hatred.

You will not change the world of politics. You will be the next Gandhi or Hitler or Napoleon or great religious prophet.

You are nothing. You are not made for fame. You will have no effect on which way the insane masses go. Your lifespan on Earth is limited. Don’t spend it being miserable about mass trends you can’t have control over. I’m drunk and projecting lol

>> No.17040237

>>17036621
>Unity of perspective in the subjective realm
You're saying that society can't function unless something fundamentally impossible is accomplished~ that is ,unless you and the other Nazis are actually a hivemind

>> No.17040243

Has anyone actually read this book?

>> No.17040246

>>17040237
Yes, and you are actively moving towards it. We all are through communication.

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>>17036558

>> No.17040283

>>17040243
I'm halfway through. At one point it gets so obssessed with the Jews that it just segues into Culture of Critique 2.
But it's interesting if a bit too heavy on autistic infodumps. It's very up to date and discusses some very recent events, as well as some obscure tidbits that require more attention (e.g. the Jaffe Memo).

>> No.17040681

>>17036283
Lmao, transgender ideology is a hand in the pocket. It’s literally identity on a subscription service, where you’re renting your ego from a pharmaceutical conglomerate, but keep your eyes on the real issues for sure.

>> No.17040763

>>17036378
ah, there it is the again
>street crimes and gang wars aren't the problem, it's the corporations who dont pay taxes that are oppressing the people!
>diasporas and pocket zones aren't the problem, it's the imperialist terrorist regime of the U S A that is creating these behaviors!
I don't know how but somehow there are enough retards in the world who fall for this shit that have made this argument look like it's somewhat feasible
I don't like technocrat multinationals, I don't like the ever-growing rich/poor divide, I don't like how wages are plummeting, I'm aware of how damaging automation is and will be for a significant size of the population
doesnt mean that bouregouise tranny groomers arent part of the problem too

>> No.17040810

>>17039347
/thread

>> No.17040818

>>17036283
>it's da capitalists
you people are all the same

>> No.17040845

>>17039389
Ask this again while peering into the mirror.

>> No.17040853

>>17036267
>It's a very well-researched book

>> No.17040874

>>17039501
Hey anon can you explain to a layman why 1 + 1 = 2 isn't foundational (or whatever it is you're trying to say)

>> No.17040934

>>17040853
Well, it IS well researched. This also makes it somewhat dry, as every chapter is an infodump.

>> No.17041557

>>17036148
Is it necessary to make a lecture about this? If it isn't completely theatrical or a short important summary is there any point in yet another lecture video other than social capital? Even then, why make a video?

>> No.17042697

>>17036539
What a spineless faggot. This tranny shit has no place in a civilized society. Trannies and their apologists should be summarily executed.

>> No.17042720

>>17036148
back to parler /pol/

>> No.17042832

>>17036455
John Money was a flaming pedo, so he's spiritually jewish at the very least.

>> No.17042871

>>17038982
Thanks fren!

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>>17036148
>not waldun
Cringe

>> No.17043015

>>17042832
I'm actually surprised Scott doesn't talk about the Reimer case in the book. Like WTF?

>> No.17043927

>>17039457
more like LAMEstream media, am I right?

>> No.17043945

>>17039481
Wrong. read Nick Land.
in Landian Feminism the sex defense network liberates capital.

>> No.17043986

>>17039386
He cute.

>> No.17044049

>>17043986
Faggot.

>> No.17044061

>>17044049
Im bisexual like all honest men.

>> No.17044088

>>17044061
Not everybody here wants to lick hairy man asshole. You have a disorder.

>> No.17044106

>>17044088
This. Bi is a bad meme.

>> No.17044151

>>17044088
>>17044106
You've both had transient homoerotic thoughts but explained them away(coped)because you're too weak to face social stygma or the "depravity" of your own thoughts. You aren't free.

>> No.17044247

>>17044151
Projection. On top of that, where I live, there's no social stigma for any of this, nor would my family give a fuck (trans sibling). I really just don't see the appeal in hairy man asshole.

>> No.17044354

>>17044151
Usually accusing someone of projection is gay armchair psychologist stuff, but this is one of the few cases I can say you’re definitely projecting.

>> No.17044550

>>17044354
That's my hang-up with most LGBT types I've known in my life. They are often arrogant in the idea that straight people are just living lies etc.

Maybe hard to believe, but not everybody consumed porn and shitty media at a premature age and/or had a fucked up upbringing and developed deranged sexualities.

>> No.17045101

>>17044550
I did neither, I came to bisexuality through consternated mental effort and philosophy. I like most people had thoughts about the taboo occasionally, and thought it was just forbidden fruit syndrome, eventually I learned to take my thoughts seriously and explore them, discarding the ones that I found wouldn't hold up to real scrutiny. I ended up discovering that I had no issue in being sexual or romantic with a man or a woman. They were all just people after all and why should I hide my thoughts for social stigmata or religious childhood experiences. I'm free because I allow and enjoy my thoughts, I entertain the ones most would suppress and generally feel like I've grown after spending time with them.

>> No.17045139

>>17045101
>thinking yourself into an erection
You may be asexual.

>> No.17045190

>>17045139
I don't think so, sympathy with those who are though. My wife and I have been together for 6 years and we probably would've noticed.

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>>17036449
>>17036479
>>17036656
>>17036673
>>17037035
>>17038252
>>17037075
>>17040283
You cannot solve problems created by Jews if you refuse to mention them.

The Jew taboo is not unbreakable. And it must be broken.

>> No.17045392

>>17045101
Fair enough. Though I can't wrap my head around your position, I appreciate the response.

>> No.17046230

>>17045190
That means less than you think it does.

>> No.17046342

>>17039553
The Dutch and Anglos.
>what about the Jews
I doubt Jews in North Africa, Yemen or Syria were ever that favored under capitalism.
>I-I'm obviously talking about Ashkenazi Jews
Only on top in the later parts of capitalism and even then not only a minority of them
>b-but American Jews are rich
Many of them were working class only two generations ago.

>> No.17046376

>>17046342
What is this post lmao. Just include Jews alongside Anglos and the Dutch, your points apply to all three groups.

>> No.17046460

the fact that the faggots here act like the perfect golems for the jews speaks loudly more than this book does

>> No.17046475

>>17046460
>i am deeply unhappy and its someone elses fault

>> No.17046486

>>17045357
this /pol/ infographic is meaningless without also knowing how many people of other ethnicities promote it, and without establishing the reason for why they do it. Do you understand that just because there is an overrepresentation of a group in a particular field is not evidence of an ethnically motivated plot? In the same way the overrepresentation of asians in medicine and law is not evidence of an asian plot to control the western world with pharmaceuticals.

>> No.17046541

>>17046475
maybe if troons accepted this reasoning they wouldn't attempt to kill themselves at rates of 50%

>> No.17046564

>>17046376
Anglos were more consistently and uniformly on top than Jews for most of capitalism's history.
Although my points do apply to all groups, I exaggerated them to better shit on anon, as is standard practice.

>> No.17046577

>>17046486
Donations to LGBT causes are only made by less than 3% of the LGBT population. The overwhelming majority of the funds for its promotion comes from big business.

>> No.17046584

reminder europeans are being replaced, and the LGBT agenda is the final nail in the coffin. it is so insultingly in plain sight that you can only think we've brought this upon ourselves.

>> No.17046776

>>17046486
>Do you understand that just because there is an overrepresentation of a group in a particular field is not evidence of an ethnically motivated plot?
No. In fact I understand the opposite.

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>>17046584
It's being done to us. Never forget that.

>> No.17046916

>>17046803
why are the jews hellbent on destroying the world? what's to gain? more profitability via atomization of the populace? I'm politically braindead, help me understand

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>>17046916
They're parasites. They eventually kill their hosts and move on, or the native immune system kicks them out and they move on. Their national goal is the enslavement of the world. They don't think too hard about whether that's sustainable.

>> No.17047360

>>17046803
dude waht the fuck is this i'm being redpilled, i'm a leftist

>> No.17048499

No book written after 2000 will define anything.

>> No.17049033

>>17042832
His last name is money. I just assumed he was jewish from the get go.

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Trans are less than one percent of one percent of the population. Doesn't warrant its own thread. Let alone getting shilled daily.

>> No.17049591

The r/socialism colonists in this thread seething are hilarious. Marxism is some kind of inverted pseudo-Gnosticism: all of our suffering and ills are because we don't have ENOUGH figments of matter, as soon as the ProletariansTM own the Means of Production, we'll all be happy to express a superficial and empty sense of individualistic 'self'.

Anything metaphysical and divine is a plot by da capitalists to keep our hands away from finite and contingent things we think we desire (except quasi-mystical tranny ideology where someone is born into the wrong body, and not to mention said thing you are born into is a social construct, and therefore you don't need to un-socialize yourself out of feeling alienated because it's arbitrary, but instead you need to permanently alter your physical body through mutilation to chase a dragon and ignore the root of your mental illnesses)

>> No.17049607

>>17046486
What about white privilege and white people hiring other white people because when they see the name 'John Smith' and 'Jaquan Shaquavius' they choose John?

Oh right, Dr. Joseph Cohen when he sees on his hiring list 'Abraham Rabinowitz' and 'John Smith' will weigh those options completely without bias.