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17018099 No.17018099 [Reply] [Original]

>there are people out there who judge classical literature in terms of "character development" and "plot completeness"

>> No.17018114

>>17018099
>plot
>characters
Literally the only things that matter in a story

>> No.17018122

>>17018099
How do you judge them?

>> No.17018134

>>17018114
I'm with OP on this one. Your characters don't need to develop and your plot doesn't need to be practically impenetrable for a piece to have immense literary value.

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17018814

>>17018099
yeah, amirite? such idiots, lol

>> No.17019598

>there are people who criticise classical literature for being racist/sexist

>> No.17019644

>>17018099
better than judging it on the spasmodic experience of pleasure given you by the sounds of words strung together

>> No.17019655

>>17019598
oh my GOD that makes me so mad grrr

>> No.17019669
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17019669

>i hate anglo definition of literature

>> No.17019730

>>17018099
As bad as this is, it’s still better than people who judge literary works based on their social value and adherence to the ideology of the ruling class in order to condemn or praise the author for their acquiescence or lack thereof to the current social order, a phenomenon that has entirely dominated the university’s critical approach to literature since at least the 50’s if not way earlier and has now only infected normie thought to deeper degrees everyday.

At this point, I’m thankful if people talk about the characters and the plot, at least they’re talking about the fucking book.

>> No.17020248

Bumpf

>> No.17020519

>>17019730
>it’s still better than people who judge literary works based on their social value
that's by far the most important thing in literature.

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>>17018099
>he judges literature
>he judges
>he doesn't just let the art wash over him and experience it for what it is
ngmi

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>>17018099
>he judges literature
>he judges
>he doesn't just let the art wash over him and experience it for what it is
ngmi

>> No.17020556

>>17019669
somos los mejores en literatura. nadie tiene un quijote, no lo podeis tener

>> No.17020592

>>17020556
basado y buienopastillado

>> No.17020977

>>17018099
>there are people out there who judge classical literature in terms of "character development" and "plot completeness"

If you're talking about the novel form, character and plot are of the essence; they're what characterizes the form.

That said, classical literature is, of course, not limited to the novel form. (And indeed, depending on what you mean by "classical literature," it may not even *include* the novel.)

>> No.17021045

>>17020519
In what way?

>> No.17022152

I’m bumping this thread

>> No.17023436

>>17018814
Aristotle was brilliant but he was a complete autist. I don't take his opinions on art seriously.

>> No.17023725

>>17023436
The corona virus was just airborn strain of autism.

>> No.17023742

>>17020977
based riposte

>> No.17023836

they've become acquainted with some basic terms, mistaken them for the endgame, and want to be a judge.

btw whats some kino slice of life literature bros?

>> No.17025569

>>17018099
"But the characters have to feel real! They have to be like reeaal friieenndds!"

>> No.17025571

>>17018099
What is "plot completeness"?