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How do i explain Stoicism to an illiterate normie?

>> No.17005937

Quite easily.

>> No.17005954

>>17005937
How would you do it?

>> No.17005977

>>17005954
Give him a few lines of Epictetus, probably.

>> No.17005978

>>17005937
/thread

>> No.17006001

>>17005921
I love Sydney :(

>> No.17006003

>>17005921
\bread

>> No.17006004

>>17006001
I prefer Melbourne

>> No.17006054

Not a single straight answer, i just wanted /lit/ to tell me how to explain it to my normalfag friends
Fuck you all

>> No.17006106

>>17006054
Have you tried reading any of it?

>> No.17006141

>>17005921
Quick rundown from an illiterate.
1. You have a problem or something is bothering you.

2. Is this something within your control?

3. If so work to change it. When working to change it, do not focus on the result as, going back to point 2, it is not in your control. Only the attempt is so take your best shot and be content from there.

4. If this something is not within your control then you can not affect it. Why worry about something that you can not affect? From here you have two options. Option one: You can lament and weep over your fate and futility. Option two: You accept that this something can not be controlled, let it be and move on to that which you can control. The state of that something will remain the same whether you pick option one or two but the state of your mind will not be the same. Which option do you think would lead to a better state of mind?

>> No.17006151

>>17006054
just make them watch Gladiator or some easy to digest stuff like that

>> No.17006163

>>17005921
yoyoyo homie
them things happen that be not swagger
but u still gon b cool as a cucumber yknow what im saying dawg
let the fools b foolin yo

>> No.17006199

>>17006163
damm you jivin turkey gon b xplainin stoicism to them hood niggas n shiet

>> No.17006241

>>17006163
>>17006199
Didn't know there were black /lit/izens!

>> No.17006248

>>17005921
they're probably already a fan

>> No.17006256

>>17005921
Just don't care, what'll happen will happen

>> No.17006292

>>17006163
Finally, thank you

>> No.17006371

Custardloaf have any feet pics?

>> No.17007117

>>17006371
no. Don't you dare ever harass her about it either, or you will taste my blade.

>> No.17007254

>>17005921
Go on to YouTube and watch a "stoicism" self help video, you will find a watered down, butchered, summarization of stoicism. Recite the video to your friends and then they will think they understand one of the easiest to understand philosophies.

>> No.17007489

>>17005921
kys

>> No.17008054

>>17005921
>"stop thinking from your emotions, like wtf are you retarded?"
there

>> No.17009546

>>17006163
Based

>> No.17009564

>>17006054
yes. and this is the reason why. dogshit like >>17006163 gets all the (You)'s while sensitive, effortful posts like >>17006141 get ignored. not soon after anyone matures enough to realize this, they leave 4chan for brighter futures. i'm about due. "LATER, VIRGinS!"

>> No.17009570

>>17005921
you dont, just ignore them

>> No.17009880

"Outside no affect inside."

>> No.17009901

>>17005921
Punch him, then tell him to stop being mad over something he had no control over. He is now a stoic.

>> No.17009921

>>17005921
>Wipe out imagination
Marcus Aurelius

>> No.17009938

>>17005921
Overwhelmed by the impossibility of an actual sensual encounter with this woman whose virtual appearance is but my only solace, I'm left with no choice but to ask the one who has graced me with her image: oh dear anon, I am here with my heart shattered by her smile, taken by the fever of my own erotic desires evoked by this glimpse of her soft skin and what is left for me to imagine. I ask you, please, aid me with a clue of her identity so that I can dream a way to bring this distant encounter closer to actuality, or if only to further the illusion, which is alone deserving of all my energies even to my own personal destruction. I ask you, dear anon, to show me the route so that this does not end here, for I'm but a fool mesmerized by this vision, as if haunted by a succubus whose name I do not know.

>> No.17010090

>>17006141
>You can lament and weep over your fate and futility
That's pretty much what I do all day. Any books about this?

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>>17005921
Just show them this emoji

>> No.17010128
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>>17010090

>> No.17010211
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>>17005921
YFW chosen to be the Illiterate Normie Poster Girl.

>> No.17010219

>>17005921
Play them the 'Be Happy' song.

>> No.17010411

>>17009564
if your thread does poorly it's almost always because you failed to properly prime the topic for discussion. usually you want to evoke some sense of duty on the part of the posters to straighten something out. the topic should be worthy of arguing about, essentially. this place is kind of like a way for people to play-fight each other with ideas. imagine a game of mortal combat or something, but ideas are being possessed instead of characters. now observe your original post. what the fuck did you expect? it's boring. of course people are going to respond more to >>17006163; at least that's interesting to some degree

>> No.17011127

>>17006054
are you the normalfag in question?
Have somebody who isn't --read this thread --and explain it to you. You obviously aren't qualified to handle the answer to your own question.

>> No.17011231

>>17010211
Sydney is that you. I liked when on your stream you said “Okey dokey” in an Irish accent

>> No.17011235

>>17005921
I have seen this bnitch with a hairbrush in her vagina

>> No.17011275

>>17011235
fake news

>> No.17012144

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5_an6B3H4E

I think anyone could understand at least some of the main ideas of Stoicism from listening to this lecture

>> No.17012172

>>17005921
Slap the shit out of them and when they are about to react hush them and say that they should accept the things they cannot control and work on the things they can control like how they react to your slaps for example punching you so hard you discard your silly idiotic ancient slave cope of a philosophy.

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>>17012172
A philosophy of both slaves and emperors alike

>> No.17012261

>>17012218
>A philosophy of both slaves and emperors alike
nope just slaves.

>> No.17012271

normalfags aren't able to understand anything. they operate off of particular feelings they get, and hunches. how would you explain stoicism to you dog?

>> No.17012275

>>17012271
a dog is the ideal stoic though, they embody stoicism, you should learn stoicism from dogs

>> No.17012277

>>17012275
*barks*

>> No.17012281

>>17005921
sydney quit putting hairbrushes in ur asshole. whats ur @ OP

>> No.17012283

>>17012275
dogs are epicurean. cats are stoic

>> No.17012293

>>17012283
cats aren't stoic they're borderline personality disorder anthromorphised

>> No.17012295

>>17009938
custardloaf on twitter her names sydney, there are pics of her putting a hairbrush in her ass

>> No.17012301

>>17012293
when you die a dog you've had for two weeks will whine and get depressed. a cat you've had for fifteen years will start eating you or leave.

>> No.17012325

>>17012301
did you just prove my point by trying to argue it?

>> No.17012340

>>17012325
no, i proved my point to your stupefaction.

>> No.17012489

pewdiepie made a video on it, so you probably don't have to.

>> No.17012512

I wanna shove that hairbrush so far up her pussy

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>>17005921

>> No.17012834

>>17012549
what if your wife got raped by Tyrone from down the street?
Can you change the fact that your wife got raped?
No, so you or your wife will only be affected if you allow it to affect you?
This sounds like cuck philosophy desu.

>> No.17012845

>>17012834
whats your alternative hypothesis, that god is faxing you a judgment? youre the only one controls your thoughts

>> No.17012864

>>17012845
>whats your alternative hypothesis, that god is faxing you a judgment? youre the only one controls your thoughts
I was talking about the passivity of the stoic way. You won't even do something about your wife's rapist? Kinda cucked there friendo.

>> No.17012880

>>17012864
if you can punish the rapist then any stoic would tell you to do so

>> No.17012892

>>17012864
What part of the "Can I change this" branch on the flowchart confused you?

>> No.17012963 [DELETED] 

>>17012880
>if you can punish the rapist then any stoic would tell you to do so
Not according to their writings.
Why would the stoic want to punish the rapist? It's not necessarily certain that the rapist will rape again, any punishment seems to be out of anger which stoicism forbids since it is a destructive emotion.
Even if the stoic uses the state to punish the rapist the stoic must do so perhaps only out of a sense of duty towards society and not out of anger nor a desire to avenge his wife, so the stoic is kinda of a cuck either way.

>>17012892
>What part of the "Can I change this" branch on the flowchart confused you?
The part where we don't have a time machine to travel in the past to stop rape.

>> No.17013084

>>17005921
Grunt whenever it expects an emotional response

>> No.17013093

>>17005921
To try to be unaffected by the ego, to realize that all bias is and issue and to realize that hedonism is a distraction.

>> No.17013099

>>17013084
On a serious note.

Best way to explain it is through their observations of your responses to real life situations.

>> No.17013110

>>17012834
Kill him then and be unflinching in court when you inevitably get sent down.