its just a matter of time anon

[Anonymous No.17005333]

looking for recs on deepfakes, not just AI in general. im terrified of this shit atm. that uncalley valley feeling is strong when i see some of these. just imagine the implications of this shit perfected.

[Anonymous No.17005367]

i was just thinking about how these deepfakes seem demonic and then come across this how am i not surprised

[Anonymous No.17005487]

>>17005333
Ok kike

[Anonymous No.17005562]

>>17005333
Yeah, remember when Photoshop radically changed the way we percieve reality? Scary spooky stuff!

[Anonymous No.17005631]

Has little to do with AI shit more to do with the vast amount of data harvested from the internet. If they couldn't do this they'd have to come up with something actually advanced.

[Anonymous No.17005634]

>>17005487
what are you talking about? im confused
>>17005562
its not the same but you know that dont you faggot? also i could make a strong argument that it has.

[Anonymous No.17005636]

Is there a deep fake of Donald?

[Anonymous No.17005637]

>>17005562
It did though. Instagram is responsible for a whole generation having body dysmorphia.

[Anonymous No.17005638]

>>17005367
There’s nothing “demonic” hinted at in that screenshot, what’s the connection

[Anonymous No.17005646]

>>17005562
Can you photoshop videos convincingly?

[Anonymous No.17006431]

>>17005646
someone can, not me. but that's literally not relevant whatsoever lol?

[Anonymous No.17006547]

>>17005638

[Anonymous No.17006594]

>>17005367
It never fails

[Anonymous No.17006605]

>>17005333
Genuinely scary shit

[Anonymous No.17007100]

>>17005637
I doubt it, the ig model look is just an absolute shitload of a makeup, especially around the eyes and an outfit with a really tight waistline. It’s more about doing your best to look like a mulatto than an unrealistic standard of beauty.
It was worse in the 90s when the super-thin Kate Moss look was popular because anybody with hips felt like they were fat

[Anonymous No.17007166]

>>17005562
It literally did though if by "Photoshop" you mean digital photography + editing.

[Anonymous No.17007200]

>>17005562
You're retarded, my man.

[Anonymous No.17007226]

alarmist doomer teenagers love to dogpile any half-sensible view that doesnt fit their fantasy while simultaneously buying into the corporate technosphere hype. >>17005562 is correct. new media leads to new media literacy in its consumers and very slight adjustments in expectations of reality. this has been the case since grug smeared shit on a wall, and nothing whatsoever about deepfakes suggests anything alarming.

[Anonymous No.17007523]

Media will be cryptographically signed won't it?

[Anonymous No.17007733]

>>17005333
Simulacra and Simulation
The Question Concerning Technology
Industrial Society and it's Future

[Anonymous No.17008141]

deepfakes are god tier
mrdeepfakes and kpopdeepfakes unironically saved porn
stop worrying and enjoy the ride

[Anonymous No.17008146]

>>17008141
degenerate

[Anonymous No.17008194]

>>17008146
stay mad and upset faggot

[Anonymous No.17008243]

>>17005333
Is that Scarlett Johansson?
Post more

[Anonymous No.17008265]

are you just bringing this up to talk about it or are you actually looking for books? How could there be books written about deepfakes when they only started popping up like last year?

>>17008194
its your life being wasted

[Anonymous No.17008281]

>>17008265
Forgetting a certain 1997 masterpiece anon?

[Anonymous No.17008292]

>>17008265
we're both here on 4chan retard high ground simply does not exist, try again

[Anonymous No.17008766]

>>17007226
yeah sorry you tried very hard to make it sound like you're correct and being rational here but not all tech is the same. its unbelievably retarded you're trying to say this shit isn't fundamentally altering the human psyche. we're so much different from middle ages humans and ancient humans. they literally saw reality completely different. there are tens of thousands of books proving this without a doubt. you're fucking stupid at best and evil and malicious at worst.

the strictest argument you could make without being a dishonest piece of shit is 'we don't know how this will affect humans but i'm inclined to believe we will adapt properly and in a timely manner' no other argument for your current position is a possibility unless you're fundamentally dishonest and lying to yourself. i would have pointed out how fucking stupid you sound less if you hadn't been so cocky about it. now go do some basic research and reading. human brains are pliable and plastic, meaning environment drastically changes them. don't be stupid.
>>17007523
exactly what i was thinking about lol. like are we going to have irl watermarks?
>>17007733
i've read literally all 3 of these already lol thank you for suggestions though. have any other options? scholarly articles, essays and thesis' etc would be great too.
>>17008243
i dont have more but you can find them. i actually couldn't even nut to these videos/pics. not convincing enough yet. but that's partly whats troubling. >>17008265
i mean i'd like discussion and suggestions both. because people can write books in a few months? or because this started popping up in 2012 and not last year? or because its been theorized for decades? drop the pretentious attitude goofy, not smart enough for it.

[Anonymous No.17009062]

>>17005367
Please elaborate what's evil about this image

[Anonymous No.17009063]

>>17008766
i don't have anything to contribute to the thread in the way of recommendations, but i'm interested in your thoughts about this. in a general sense, this is just another small step towards humans being forced to alter their biology in order to keep up with their quickly-changing society. so firstly, would you agree with that surmise? the way it seems to me is that humans are kind of just fucked. i don't want this to be the case, but it really seems completely inevitable; unless we change into something inhuman, we will not be able to keep up. if this is correct, the obvious question is whether we can go through the inevitable transformation without losing our freedom. unless valuing freedom is purposeless?

[Anonymous No.17009086]

>>17005562
This really calmed me down, you're right.

[Anonymous No.17009090]

>>17008766
Cyberspace, Cyberbodies, Cyberpunk: Cultures of Technological Embodiment

[Anonymous No.17009101]

>>17009062
It's from Israel

[Anonymous No.17009105]

>>17008766
Okay, but you want books on the philosophy on deep fakes, when nobody in that area can explain where deepfakes will take society.

If you'd like to form your own opinions, then maybe you should start with getting familiar with software engineering, then machine learning/deep learning, then try your hand at making ML models.

[Anonymous No.17009121]

How the hell do you people get off to this, much less the hardcore variations?

[Anonymous No.17009122]

>>17009062
no
>>17009063
yeah i would agree with that. honestly im not too sure about whether we're fucked or not. i think for sure this is going to be part of the next big paradigm shift without a doubt though. idk about inevitable, there will always be some kind of retreat i think. there needs to be a way for those who want 'off this ride' to get off whilst still letting this technology grow. i dont find freedom to be inherently good but personally its desirable. determining just how 'inevitable' all of it is would be helpful but i'm not convinced either way. i've read plenty of guys who believed it was inevitable but i still don't see it. shit can change in a flash and historically we can see many instances of this.

[Anonymous No.17009133]

>>17009101
Go on, and so?

[Anonymous No.17009154]

>>17009090
looks perfect i'll check it out thank you
>>17009105
so you've read everyone in that area huh? give me some resources on people who give their opinions. it doesn't have to be a book titled 'Philosophy on deep fakes' you fucking midwit. If you know of any concepts that tie into this philosophically then that's what books i'm looking for. thanks for bottom recs, that helps as well. now i can look into philosophy pertaining to those things too! wow that's crazy huh it doesn't have to be a perfectly specific book.
>>17009121
i have no idea i couldn't do it, i tried. made me feel even way worse than watching regular porn.

[Anonymous No.17009172]

>>17009133
are you brand new here or are you being purposefully dense u dumb subhuman nigger? kill yourself tranny.

[Anonymous No.17009182]

>>17005367
Just like any other technology, deepfakes can be used for good and bad things. I don't know exactly what good things though, maybe to revive old actors?

[Anonymous No.17009216]

>>17009182
how its used is hardly relevant one way or another. its going to change things when perfected. especially combined with the other popular tech right now like AI, deep learning and virtual/augmented reality.

[Anonymous No.17009218]

>>17009154
>made me feel even way worse than watching regular porn.
That's because it's computer generated
If it were real, at least you have the satisfaction of knowing that people were having satisfaction themselves

[Anonymous No.17009243]

>>17009172
Well, considering you're making baseless assumptions that all Israeli companies are evil/state owned, in a thread about book recs on a Computer Science topic, I'd say you're just another one of those new fag schizoids that think their hot takes make them relevant to all discussions on every topic.

[Anonymous No.17009252]

>>17009182
the bad things matter more. an animal in the wilderness has to firstly prioritize avoiding death. anything that benefits the animal (beyond ensuring its survival) is merely a bonus. when a new technology is introduced to a society, the threat of death is far more serious than the possibility of imrovement. we stand very little to gain and absolutely everything to lose.

[Anonymous No.17009259]

>>17005636
Nah none of those yet good idea tho

[Anonymous No.17009272]

ive said it before and ill say it again: once we can reproduce the look of reality in flat images, then you'll be able to buy deepfakes of you fucking your high school crush (and much worse). it's over. the line between reality and this disgusting irreal world of images we've been constructing will finally be erased

[Anonymous No.17009273]

>>17009218
>That's because it's computer generated
Even if it was real, hardcore is pretty disgusting. I don't know how people can stomach it

[Anonymous No.17009282]

>>17009272
In practice this means more incels until the day either China conquer us or it makes all of us poor.

[Anonymous No.17009308]

>>17009273
>>17009272
We've been able to stomach photoshop just fine.

Anything that happens in a photoshop or Deepfake can be contested in a court of law.

[Anonymous No.17009324]

>>17009252
It's deepfake, not the nuclear bomb. Even the internet is worse and we are still here.

[Anonymous No.17009346]

>>17009308
>it's always been like this

no you don't get it, this isn't an extension of photoshop, photoshop was just the first step to what deepfakes have always been: the near-perfect simulation of the appearance of reality. when reality can be simulated as a pure surface-event, then this demonic plane of desire the internet's being extended into will only grow bigger and more indistinguishable from the every day. you don't programs that abolish the distinction between reality and the appearance of reality in a way that'd make even Baudrillard blush THEY'RE COMING.

[Anonymous No.17009371]

>>17009346
Bro it’s 2D pictures. Close your eyes, walk away from the screen, nigga

[Anonymous No.17009377]

>>17009324
you're right. the trouble is that we have no choice either way. suppose it were the next nuclear bomb; do you think we would have any say in whether it's accepted or not? people will use it despite the danger. so our only choice in a situation like this is to hope the technology doesn't end up destroying us, but it's really only a matter of time

[Anonymous No.17009392]

>>17009371
bro just uncritically accept everything your masters make for you, it's always been this way

fuck off

[doubtposting !!0CYbMy7gCdH No.17009470]

>>17005333
This will work until somebody makes an AI that can detect deepfakes. Then there'll be a temporary dip, until somebody realizes they can just feed that data back into the original algo, whereupon they'll essentially have created the essence of the conscious mechanism. What should scare you isn't the gradual assimilation of human naturalness into the digital simulacrum, but the possibility of the simulacrum creating something of its own.

[Anonymous No.17009490]

>>17009346
its just linear regression, cool it with the Google marketing.

[Anonymous No.17009502]

>>17005333
>MFW NO BOOKTUBER IS SAFE
ALSO CHECKED

[Anonymous No.17009548]

>>17005333
I don't know why the implications VR and AI aren't a much bigger talking point in everyday life and academia. Shits more terrifying to me than nuclear war or social collapse.

[Anonymous No.17009550]

>>17009392
Based

[Anonymous No.17009571]

>>17005487
I'm fairly sure the pic is actually related and is being used as an example of a deepfake.

[Anonymous No.17009648]

>>17009243
been here much longer than you. im also much more attractive and well read. i didn't say literally any of that at all lol. no i'm mentally and physically well more so than you. i don't think i'm 'relevant' i don't care to be relevant, this is literally an anon board retard. i wanted fucking book recommendations and to hear other peoples thoughts. go back. >>17009272
yes this is exactly the kind of stuff i was talking about. what about children being simulated sexually? what are the ethics around that like holy fuck. think about this tech mass produced. fully customizable entertainment of any sort made completely at home by yourself. what happens to Hollywood etc? will fame no longer exist once we're fully submersed in AI/VR/deepfake reality? why worry about some celebrity when you can just create an unending movie with your exact preferences on your PC. all the implications of this shit is going to be pretty wild.
>>17009273
yeah i'm not big on regular porn but i get horny like everyone else. this just felt so much more wrong.
>>17009282
you think this stuff wont affect China?
>>17009324
idk about the internet being 'worse' its simply the same problem just on a more fundamental level.
>>17009346
captures my feelings exactly thank u anon
>>17009371
im not even slightly worried about myself, i can do that fine goofy. but 4 billion others won't. it affects all of us don't play dumb.
>>17009470
why is the simulacrum creating something of its own supposed to be more terrifying? instinctually that doesn't raise any hairs but you make the most sense here. is this baudillard? i haven't read much of him. so is the future just going to be AI battling back and forth lmao.
>>17009502
lmao

[doubtposting !!0CYbMy7gCdH No.17009679]

>>17009648
>why is the simulacrum creating something of its own supposed to be more terrifying?
Envision an AI whose input and output is only the input and output of another AI. There is, as far as the material goes, no humanity at all. What was previously oriented toward human, albeit crooked, ends, are at this point nothing but anti-human. We can mediate what we can understand, but nothing more.

[Anonymous No.17009689]

>>17005562
It did. It made social media 5x the fucked up rat race it might have been the minute people started erasing all their flaws.