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>/science fiction and fantasy general/
THREAD TOPIC: Discuss the most obscure /sff/ shit you've ever read.

Previously:
>>16980408

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ

>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Discord
Is gay.

>> No.16999040

first for the smell of lady feetsies

>> No.16999064
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16999064

Second for Pterry spinning in his grave like a beyblade

>> No.16999070

>>16999064
That's not real, right?

>> No.16999081

>>16999064
There ain't no space in a grave for ya to swing your arms like a beyblade

>> No.16999084

>>16999070
https://youtu.be/SRHCHMGSBQ0

>> No.16999093

>>16999064
LET IT RIP

>> No.16999094

>>16999084
The black chick is meant to be Sybil Ramkin by the way

>> No.16999101

>>16999084
>>16999094
Well, at least the original still exists, untainted.
It's just weird that they are trying to capture some 'Riverdale' version of Discworld.
Who is this even meant for?

>> No.16999104

>>16999101
This kind of thing I have to believe has literally no audience
Discworld fans aren't going to watch this, and the kind of people who watch this kind of thing have never heard of Discworld

>> No.16999107

What to read to better understand The Book of The New Sun?

>> No.16999112

>>16998984
https://youtu.be/HVi4AKu3Tr8

>> No.16999135
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>>16998984
> beating the pedo to starting thd new thread
> cover photo is not some horrific garish cartoon of an anthropomorphic hippo in a top hat
You did it, Anon. You crazy son of a bitch, you did it.

>> No.16999141

Smegmaspren

>> No.16999235

Prince of nothing is unreadable garbage holy shit you faggots memed me again

>> No.16999262

>>16999084
The Big Gay has got yer nose. Pratchettfags
>Big Woke is running out of IP to pillage.

>> No.16999279

>>16999064
Theory: the costume budget went to somebody's yacht, so the disaster was quickly presented as a 'reimagining'

>> No.16999284

>>16999104
Most Pratchett fans are bongs aka the most cucked people on Earth. They'll love it.

>> No.16999294

>>16998984
Anyone else read Yukikaze? What do I think about it?

>> No.16999307

>>16999135
I try.

>> No.16999315

>>16999235
>getting filtered and screeching about your iq
We hear you anon.

>> No.16999317
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16999317

Post based characters in science fiction and fantasy. I'll start with BRANDOOM SANDERSTORM:

>Huio is based, partially, on someone I met while touring. I had a driver who was from Pakistan, originally. (It's not uncommon for the publisher or convention to assign me a driver to get me to all the places I needed to get.) We had a good time chatting, and I discovered he had a Ph.d. in mechanical engineering. However, for various reasons, his life in his home country was really difficult--so he took the chance to start over in a new country with a new life. (More, he wanted to get his children out of a bad situation. I believe he was Sikh--though he might have been Jain--and his family was suffering some persecution for it.)

>>16999135
>still discord newfagshit in the OP
OP did nothing but certify its eternal faggotry which is all these threads are anymore.

>> No.16999343

>>16999317
>not actually reading the OP
Embarrassing, you have one job /lit/.

>> No.16999353

>>16999235
HOW LONG HAVE YOU SERVED GOLGOTTERATH?

>> No.16999355

>>16999040
based

>> No.16999387
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16999387

Recommend me the most kino fantasy anthology/short story collection that you know of.

Whoever does that gets to smoke the blunt.

Bonus points if the collection isn't well known.

>> No.16999437

>>16999064
YASSSSS QUEEN SLAYYY

>> No.16999453

>>16999141
>Impregnationspren

>> No.16999468
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>>16999387
Not Fantasy but SciFi written like classic tales. Peak kino and Stanislaw Lem is criminally underrated

>> No.16999507
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16999507

>Yeah these stories are good but I'm going to have to subtract two stars because there aren't enough black and female characters
Why do people write reviews like this?

>> No.16999538

>>16999507
Because standards change and different people demand different things from art.
Why do you care about other people's opinions?

>> No.16999557

>>16999538
Why does the presence of more blacks and women necessarily improve a story?

>> No.16999586

>>16999557
It doesn't.
It ticks off a mental checkbox that says 'I am allowed to enjoy this'.

>> No.16999591

>>16999557
It does not - quite the contrary

>> No.16999595

>>16999586
Omg is this true?

>> No.16999599

>>16999595
Today? Sure.
Tomorrow? Probably not.

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>>16999387
Not the most kino but I liked a majority of the stories

>> No.16999617

>>16999595
There are lots of requests on Plebbit like 'give me fantasy book with lesbians, POC that aren't slaves, strong women'. They don't care about story.

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16999635

Is Dresden Files 'pozzed'?
My gay co-worker recommended it too me, which has me suspicious.

>> No.16999703

>>16999557
I didn't say it does. I said there are people who think that.
Cool deflection though.

>> No.16999714

>>16999703
Why do they think that?

>> No.16999726

>>16999714
Stop shitting up the thread faggot. You know the answer and so do we, if you wanna stir up the hornet's next make a smurf and ask the same question on rebbit

>> No.16999729

>>16999635
I don't ever recall it being terribly """pOzZeD""". The vampires are overtly sexual. There's a fair bit of sexual content overall, but mostly it's just episodic wizard investigation shenanigans bleeding into higher stakes magical nonsense as the series wears on. It's a fun timewaster.

>> No.16999735

>>16999726
>make a smurf
Is this some new zoomer slang?

>> No.16999748

>>16999726
Stop responding to it.

>> No.16999759

>>16999714
Because some of them aren't straight cisgendered white people. They live different experiences from the demographic of "average fantasy writer" and enjoy seeing experiences more relatable to their own in fiction.
I don't understand this disconnect people have between a capitalistic consumer market becoming increasingly diverse and calls from the consumer to reflect that diversity.

>> No.16999800

>>16999759
There are enough gay nigger books to choose from without polluting our genre.

>> No.16999841

>>16999759
95% of readers aren't gay. Over represented.
99% of historical ass kickers were men.
If you want to write a novel about Twitter politics, just go to Twitter.

>> No.16999853

>>16999841
>MUH 1:1 PARITY WITH REALITY
Wait, weren't we discussing fantasy?

>> No.16999870

If only 5 percent of people do behavior X, it shouldn't be normalized. It's nowhere near normal. If 5% of Americans raised ferrets, no one would be upset about the lack of ferret representation. It's not like niche markets don't exist.

>> No.16999872

>>16999853
>Women and mudpeople can only do significant things in the realm of make-believe
At least you admit it.

>> No.16999889

>>16999853
I don't know. Yet another example of why the SFFG thread sucks. IT should be broken into book threads/topics like everything else.

>> No.16999914

>>16999889
On the contrary, it should be expanded to include horror fiction as well.

>> No.16999950
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16999950

Name a fantasy book that isn't Reddit with magic systems.

>> No.16999961

>>16999914
I agree with this notion. Most horror is fantastical to some degree anyway.

>> No.16999976

>>16999914
Sure whatever, as long as butterbitch doesn't post here.

>> No.16999984

>>16999950
Kull

>> No.16999996

>>16999950
I've never been on Reddit. What are you implying?

>> No.17000001

>>16999759
>start reading Lord of the Rings
>realise I'm not a hobbit
>throw the book in the trash because I'm physically incapable of relating to characters aren't exactly as me

>> No.17000020

>>16999961
I've noticed people use the acronym SFFH as well, in some places. It's all speculative fiction ultimately.

>> No.17000023

>>16999872
HAHAHAHAHAHA RACISM HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>16999889
You're welcome to start your own thread, but I have to wonder if you'll get anything more accomplished. Seems like nobody wants to discuss books anyway.

>> No.17000026

>>17000001
basic bitch take, spoiling for a fight

>> No.17000044

Protip: The people writing these otherkin aren't actually otherkin. They are just surfing the fad.

>> No.17000051

>>17000023
>HAHAHAHAHAHA RACISM HAHAHAHAHAHA
Racism is indeed funny. It will be funnier the more transgressive it becomes.

>> No.17000055

>>17000023
Do you prefer Conan or Kull? Why?

>> No.17000078

>>17000001
>asking everyone who's not the prime demographic to do something you clearly find upsetting and unfathomable
What did you mean by this?

>> No.17000090

>>17000001
Reminder that hobbits are white and heterosexual.

>> No.17000096

Recommend Comedic Fantasy. Pratchett and Aspirin suck. Pratchett for too many headhops or story threads.

>> No.17000097

>>16999950
The Edge Chronicles unironically

>> No.17000107

>>17000090
>and heterosexual
Sometimes I'm not sure about that.

>> No.17000121

>>17000107
Sam was confirmed hetero. Who comes to mind?

>> No.17000126

>>17000107
That just your brain being corrupted by living in a pro-homosexual culture, which causes you to sexualize normal, platonic male intimacy.

>> No.17000134

Lord Dunsany started the Sword and Sorcery genre. Agree or disagree?

>> No.17000150

>>17000121
>>17000121
I know that it was pure male friendship and camaraderie. It's Jackon's adaptation fault that it may be seen that way.

>> No.17000163

>>17000150
No, men used to be more physically intimate with each other. Having to keep your distance let someone think you're a faggot isn't normal and is caused by homosexuality being allowed in the open.

>> No.17000168

>>17000107
I'm gay but the way modern culture has perverted one of the purest and heart-warming depictions of male friendship makes my blood boil desu
This >>17000126

>> No.17000189

>>17000163
>>17000168
Anons, I was joking. This thread would be better if someone could answer my question above and not deliberating about homosexuality in LOTR.
>>16999107

>> No.17000208

>>17000189
I only read book one of new sun, because it sucked. And I am totally the market for it. Dying Earth is a favorite. I tried Cerberus and some short story book- Three strikes for the mustache who walks as a man (Wolfe)

>> No.17000210

I just finished Rhythm of War, and I’m pretty happy with it. Oathbringer seems more like a misstep now then the first slope of a downward spiral. The tower plot was engaging, Navani went from being a side character to one of my favorite characters, the antagonists were interesting, instead of being one dimensional, and most importantly, Adolin stays winning. However, Sanderson needs to stop recycling the same mental illness and depression plots for Shallan and Kaladin. Kaladin’s in particular is so played out that all you can do is roll your eyes at this point.

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First Edition dust Jacket- I believe.

>> No.17000232

>>17000210
Three strikes also for Sanderfag.

>> No.17000248

>>17000134
Yes.
He also ended it.

>> No.17000271

Fantasy was never not diverse. That's what I mean by normalizing. It's like saying the X-men aren't diverse. Always was.

They hate Robert E, Howard, but all his stories featured diverse peoples. It ain't about representation, it's about
>their turn.
See it for what it is. Equality of outcome, not opportunity.

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>>17000271
>It's like saying the X-men aren't diverse

Not diverse enough though.

>> No.17000356

>>17000248
How did he end it?
You mean no one was up to his standard?

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17000499

Your opinion of Permutation City?

>> No.17000543

Remember the old internet when nearly every comment section had, fake and gay? Now its diverse and gay.

>> No.17000569

>>17000232
>REEEEEEEEEEEE YOU CAN'T JUST DISCUSS FANTASY IN THE FANTASY THREAD REEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.17000668

>>17000569
You sound crazy bitch. How could I stop you-even? Some authors suck. Sanderfag sucks. So does Wolfe. I mentioned several others. Try to keep up, junior.

>> No.17000677

Sanderniggers BTFO>>17000569

>> No.17000703

>>17000668
Who would you like to talk about, anon?

>> No.17000775

>>17000356
Yeah. Guenon unironically predicted the decline of S&S, not even joking

>> No.17000893

>>17000668
GTFO

>> No.17000930

>>17000893
Ok, I'm leaving. First and last attempt at the SFFG thread. I knew it would suck and boy-howdy did it.

>> No.17000964

>>17000930
sanderfags are cancer, they need their own containment general again

>> No.17000981

This is obviously subjective, but can anyone recommend fantasy with good prose? I'm going to sound a bit pretentious, but please bear with me. I read fantasy between literary fiction, and I find the quality of prose to be jarring. While this doesn't stop me from continuing a book. It does dampen my enjoyment, as I find myself critical of the prose. I'm not expecting to read a fantasy version of Guy De Maupassant or John Williams. However, I'd like to read an author who writes higher than 7th grade level.

>> No.17000989

>>17000981
Gene Wolfe

>> No.17001041

>>17000989
I'll have to give him another chance. I tried to read him when I was younger, and I was filtered by Pringles man. Thank you.

>> No.17001051

>>17001041
Also try Mervyn Peake

>> No.17001356

What's that? New Thread?
E William Brown Coofer

>> No.17001397

>>16999635
not to my knowledge, there's a stronk female character that feels a bit shitty whenever she comes in but for the most part they're just fun pulpy urban fantasy novels. they're pretty good, easy reads and plenty of them, i think i stopped around 14 as that was the last one published when i read through the series, can't remember a shitty book or an exceptional one, they're all about the same.

>> No.17001975

>>16999635
Closest it came was on scene in, I think it was Cold Days, where Dresden comes to a park to speak to a queen of Faerie and it's in a park gay men go to have anonymous sex

She asks Dresden what he thinks of them and he basically says "I don't give a shit. World's crappy enough, let them have their fun."

It's all some weird awkward setup to segue into her yelling at him for killing her daughter 5 or so years ago. It's ok, she was insane and was going to seriously fuck up the world if he didn't do it.

Newest books also had a big gay Valkyrie who was basically the typical horndog character but a woman. Honestly he was probably catering to men more than lesbians with that one.

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17002255

Who's the Kanye West of fantasy/sci-fi?

>> No.17002351

>>16999950
Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive -series

>> No.17002366

>>17002255
Sanderhack, he's equally retarded and overhyped by low-iq's

>> No.17002424

>>16998984
>brian clevinger
that's a name i haven't heard in years.

>> No.17002466

There this utterly generic app called Medieval Fantasy RPG that I'm really fond of, it has a good magic system and world that stays relevant and the characters are good

Have you ever had unexpected surprises in book quality?

>> No.17002494

>>17002466
>Have you ever had unexpected surprises in book quality?
I've been reading several Doctor Who stories this year and they've been, for a licensed series(TM), well-written and overall above-average. Even found a solid hard sci-fi novel with a fun story.

>> No.17002505

>>17000096
seconding this
and funny books in general, the only comedy book I've read was Money:A Suicide Note

>> No.17002867
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>Just finished 'The Eye of the World'

I have mixed feeling about this book. 95% of the book is nothing. They are just travelling from town to town, talking and world-building. Then the last 5% of the book throws that out the window and teleport them into an ending outta nowhere.
It feels like RJ needed to split up the books, but didn't have an ending for the first one, so he just quickly threw together some rushed (compared to the other 700+ pages) unsatisfying ending. If I had read this on release, I would've probably hated it.

It is a comfortable book though, and I am looking forward to continuing despite how long-winded the series seems.

>Book 1 Ranking
Rand > Nynaeve > Lan > Loial > Mat > Perrin > Moiraine > Egwene

Nynaeve was my number one; she is very dominant, and takes no shit. Then she decided to admit she likes Lan, and turns into a complete skirt, running after him and trying to stop him from doing his job.

Perrin also dropped a bit. He was pretty good when he was talking with wolves, and actually doing something. Now he does even show any emotions what so ever. Hope he gets a personality in the next book.

Egwene is such a boring, miserable cunt. She was completely fine hooking up with the first pikey she came across, but then has the nerve to get mad at Rand for talking to any other female. Also, constantly in danger, but still gets mad at Rand for saving. Even at the end when he saved the fucking life, again, she was pissed off that he shoved her stubborn ass. I hope she gets a taste of reality in the next book, because she is pretty insufferable.

Overall, i'd probably give it a 7/10.
Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

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>never written a book before
>get idea for goofy sci fi book two months ago
>send pitch of it to digital publisher
>they actually say yes
>currently at 26k words
>mfw

>> No.17003067

>>17002906
post summary and excerpt

>> No.17003159

Is the /sffg/ GoodReads group actually worthwhile?

>> No.17003184

>>17003159
Is this thread worthwhile? Depends on what you want and expect from it.

>> No.17003221

>>16999759
There are plenty of instructional manuals detailing how to operate a 12 gauge if trannies want to read something relevant

>> No.17003263

>>17003184
>Is this thread worthwhile?

Not really desu

>> No.17003354

>>17003159
Define worthwhile.
Regardless, it's dead.

>> No.17003362

>>17002867
> 95% of the book is nothing. They are just travelling from town to town, talking and world-building. Then the last 5% of the book throws that out the window and teleport them into an ending outta nowhere
this formula happens again and again.

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Who is going to finish TWOW when GRRM dies?

>> No.17003472

>>16999107
The Book of the New Sun a second time

>> No.17003563

>>17000981
John Crowley
Guy from Viriconium
Jack Vance

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sci-fi and fantasy milfs

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>>17003572
> tfw no aspect-empress mommy
Is it true? Did Kellhus pick her – and is she saved to blessed Paradise – because she is not a human woman, but a rare an angelic Ciphrang?

>> No.17003638

>>17003610
The fact that she could bear healthy children with Kell, and Mimara having the judging eye, would seem to emphasize her genetic sui generis

>> No.17003688

>>17003446
SANDON SCOTT CARD BRANDERSON

>> No.17003697

>>17002906
Link it here when it's available, I want to read it.

>> No.17003705

>>16999064
Discworld: Tax Write-off

>> No.17003715

>>17002867
I just finished it too but I went in with pretty low expectations. 2bh I don't really like any of the characters.

>> No.17003728

>>17000981
Lord of Light
Little, Big
Titus Groan
The Night Circus

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>>17003728
>Lord of Light
>fantasy

>> No.17003747

>>17003735
It's structured and reads like a fantasy story despite the setting being sci-fi. I'd say it counts if you want it to.

>> No.17003799

can anyone recommend some good books to read around christmas time?

>> No.17003865

>>17003688
Sandon Scott Bardson

>> No.17003898

>>17002424
He self-published that shit when I was in high school and it was one of my first real forays into long fiction prior to being filtered super hard by Bakker the same year. He was on the "subverting capeshit" wagon before it was hip.

>> No.17003920

>>17003898
I remember reading 8-Bit Theater when I was like 13. Hard to believe that comic is almost 20 years old.

>> No.17004274

>>17003920
>Welcome to Corneria.
>I LIKE SWORDS
>Welcome to Corneria
>I LIKE SWORDS
If you still enjoy low-brow, somewhat referential humor I'd recommend the novel. It's pretty great.

>> No.17004625

>>17003799
A Christmas Carol. Or, I guess, any of the many ghost stories told during Christmas in that era

>> No.17004640

>>17003799
It's only a short story but The Star by Arthur C Clarke

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/sffg/, I'm having a realization now that my novel is almost at the end that I strayed tremendously from my goal of creating the next homestuck. Now I'm faced with a choice: should I try to make my sequel more homestuck-like or accept that I'm telling a different story.

the one I'm working on right now has a small amount of weird time shit, but I'm hesitant to get too complicated with it because I don't trust myself not to create plot holes

>> No.17005275

>>17005249
You wrote what you did for a reason. Don't second guess yourself because it doesn't sound more similar to one of your inspirations. Seems like a supreme non-problem.

>> No.17005283

>>17005249
Homestuck was a conflux of opportunity and autism and you can't really replicate it on purpose anyway

>> No.17005298

>>17003354
Its only dead if you only judge soley by forum activity.

>> No.17005332

Read this shit last month called Wizardrous. I found it in one of these threads, the only place I've ever seen it mentioned is on this shitty board. It's pretty juvenile and deeply disturbing at points, so that's probably why. None of the characters are likeable and it seems like the author is probably a schizo. All in all, not a bad book.

>> No.17005353

>>17005275
>>17005283

if nothing else I feel like I'm obligated to follow through with the weird time shit and tell a more time travel heavy story

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This isn't literature, but watch it and tell me it didn't change your life...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK_51vhzXHo

>> No.17005409

>>17005353
You're not obligated to do anything besides think.

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17005430

>>17005409
>meow

>> No.17005449

>>16999235
WHAT DO YOU SEE

>a faggot

>> No.17005457

>>17005430
>litcatmeme.jpg

>> No.17005520

>>16999235
filtered

>> No.17005530

>>17000981
gene wolfe and r scott bakker

>> No.17005583

>>17000981
Guy Gabriel Kay
Rothfuss

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>>17005249
>creating the next homestuck
The next big things are never created intentionally

>> No.17005591

>>17002255
Mark Lawrence. He quotes himself on Twitter

>> No.17005594

>>17005591
We have a winner

>> No.17005725

>>16999235
WEEPER FAGGOT

>> No.17005739

>>16999950
The darkness that comes before

>> No.17005765

>>16999353
There is a cuck on a pole behind you

>> No.17005768

>>17005765
No, he's in the livingroom

>> No.17005781

>>16999235
CURSE PLEBARO!
stupid, stupid sausage!

>> No.17005846

We are a board of lovers

>> No.17005881

>>17005725
> cuck, cuck, cuck

>> No.17006008

>>17005881
"im not cucked! im not cucked!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob

>> No.17006013

>>17005846
Fuck the nonmen tho, only reason mortals are getting raped anally is cause their progenitor decided to become mortal and leave behind a hole for souls to get siphoned

>> No.17006046

>>17006008
>"im not shucked! im not shucked!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into an oyster shell

>> No.17006118
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17006118

> I am a shitposter of ages, Anon ... ages. I have dropped my redpills on a thousand hearts. I have made posts both based and cringe in the great memewars that authored this madness. I have scaled the heights of great boards and generals, watched the hearts of Tranny Jannies break for fury.

>> No.17006169

>>17006118
erratic cringe

>> No.17006261

>>17005725
>>17005765
>>17005768
>>17005846
based

>> No.17006350

I'm rereading the darkness that comes before and was struck by two things.

Firstly, Kellhus in the early chapters where he's wandering in the snow seems pretty out of character, he keeps wondering about his dad in a way that makes it seem like he's an ordinary human. It's also a bit weird how the dunyain have no idea where shimeh is and just told him to keep walking, and then he freezes to death because they didn't give him warm clothes and over the course of like 30 days he does nothing to address that.

2nd I totally forgot how little is covered, I'm about 75% of the way through and the holy war is still in momnem and kellhus hasn't shown up or even met with gnauir yet.

also made me think that everyone who likes TAE likes prince of nothing but not viceversa

>> No.17006360

>>17003898
I thought I was the only one who got suckered into buying that book.

>> No.17006396

>>17006350
you keep forgetting how much autism the dunyain have, kellhus has a seizure from seeing a forest for the first time

>> No.17006417

>>17006396
>kellhus has a seizure from seeing a forest for the first time
What the fuck?

>> No.17006430

>>17006417
" The dry slap of wings would pass overhead and he would pause, taking a different step. A mosquito would land on his cheek, and he would slap at it, only to have his eyes drawn to a different configuration of tree. His surroundings inhabited him, possessed him, until he was moved by all things at once—the creak of limbs, the endless permutations of water over stones. These things wracked him with the strength of tides. "

Sensory overload, the entire passage was him going mad from it.

>> No.17006432

>>17006396
yeah, as powerful as the Dûnyeets are, they are extremely sheltered – they don't believe in sorcery or gods, they don't know anything about the outside world, Moënghus retardedly blinds himself to gain the Pshûke and ends up an impotent poseur. Like Bakker said, their minds are godlike at the expense of their spirits, which are shrivelled and marginal. At some intersection of random luck and fate, Kellhus managed to find the way to optimize his Dûnyain autismo and become the most powerful man in history.

>> No.17006475

>>17006360
I found it thoroughly enjoyable.

>> No.17006627

>>16999235
Agreed. It's the worst edgy self insert I've ever seen

>> No.17006751

>>17005249
Why would the next homestuck be a novel and not a web comic?

>> No.17006804

>>17005583
>cuckpuss
oh, you.

>> No.17006811

>>17006417
nigga spent like 10 hours looking at a branch

>> No.17006866

>>16999507
I'm more bothered when people type essays for things that can be summed up in a few sentences

>> No.17006879

rec for a story that focuses on one planet and its various cultures and habitats, instead of multiple planets that each encapsulate one

like a book that focuses on exploring the rich utopians, then travels to the jungle savage part of the planet, then travels to the hard working desert dwellers etc, instead of explaining it as "the entire planet is a desert/jungle/city planet" which comes off as forced and tropey for me

>> No.17006897

>>17000989
>>17005530
why do people recommend wolfe for good prose? his tendency to write in the forms of epistles or journal entries makes it come off as reading like a grocery list to me. "so this cool thing happened, and then this happened, and then this happened"

>> No.17006914

>>17003563
>>17003728
>>17005530
Thanks for the recs, anons!

>> No.17007080

>>17006879
Around the World in Eighty Days

>> No.17007221
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17007221

Wolfe and Dying Earth bros, have you watched Last and First Men?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wzAPl3HxE8
It's apparently based on an Olaf Stapledon book.

>> No.17007236

>>17006866
So, like that review? I hope, for your sake, reading a 500 word long review is not too tiresome for you.

>> No.17007257
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17007257

When I don't get my bath I take it out on the slaves
So grease up your baby for the ball on the hill

I left my throne a million miles away
I drink from your tit and sing the blues every day
Give me the strength to split the world in two now
Yeah
I ate all the rest and now I've gotta eat you
Milking my nightmares and using my name
You're stabbing my cortex when you know I'm insane
I'm squeezed out in hump-drive and I'm drowning in love
Encompass immortal position above
And say oh, Space Lord mother mother

I lost my soul when I fell to earth
My planets call me to the void of my birth
The time has come for me to kill this game
Now open wide and say my name

>> No.17007298
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>>17007257
Most... memorable.....!!!

>> No.17007319

>>17002867
honestly after book 4 you can start skipping some characters chapters entirely and just look up a synopsis. i dont think i've read a single egwenne chapter past book 3 and i love the series

>> No.17007428

>>17007257
So why couldn’t the gods see little kel?

>> No.17007576

>>17002867
>I have mixed feeling about this book. 95% of the book is nothing. They are just travelling from town to town, talking and world-building. Then the last 5% of the book throws that out the window and teleport them into an ending outta nowhere.

So, a Sanderson book?

>> No.17007583

>>17003362
>>17007319
Should I press on to book 2 right away, or read something else in between?
I hear 'The Great Hunt' is one of the better books, but I do feel like I need a bit of palette cleanser.

>>17003715
Yeah.
It didn't really feel like any of them had a personality, other than ranges from confused to cunt.
The book also felt like a extended prologue.

>>17007576
O B S E S S E D

>> No.17007630
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17007630

>you are paul muad'dib
>you get in your room and see this
>"fuck me, paul, fuck me hard, creampie me deep and impregnate me"
>"fill all my holes with your cum"
what would you do

>> No.17007676
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17007676

Name a bigger hack

>> No.17007727

>>17007428
he's the no god and therefore has always been the nogod and the gods are blind to the no god and don't even know he exists

>> No.17007795
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17007795

I just finished a /sffg/ book and this immediately popped up on my phone.

What did I just read, bros?

>> No.17007796

>>17007221
wtf no ive never heard of it and i dont know how

>> No.17007825
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17007825

(I am currently reading Messiah, so I would appreciate no spoilers for any Dune book besides the first one)

The first part of Dune (the one that's about the conspiracy to kill Leto) has kind of a weird plot. It introduces a dozen of seemingly important characters that don't end up playing that big of a role in the end, and the story is about this big elaborate secret that the reader is told about from the very beginning, but most of the characters are ignorant about.

I have a hunch that Herbert originally intended this to be a sci-fi whodunnit (like The Caves of Steel) where a clever reader would be able to guess which one of Leto's allies is the traitor. Jessica would have been the main red herring, while Yueh would have been the big reveal. But then Frank decided that "they broke the conditioning through torture" is kind of a dumb twist, and also wanted to give everyone internal monologue, so he scrapped that idea and repurposed the story for what it is now.

I have absolutely no evidence for this, it just seems this way. Am I wrong?

>> No.17007896

Are there any science fiction books that imagine the utopia that would exist if there were no black people?

>> No.17007904

>>17007896
Basically all of them prior to the 1970s

>> No.17008062

>>17007676
I enjoyed the Night Angel trilogy, but you wanna talk about someone who pulls convenient plot contrivances straight from the depths of their ass...

>> No.17008155

So who's the "Shin" looking hobo in lasting integrity who comes out exactly once every 16 days?

>> No.17008184

>>17008155
Considering what seems to have been going on in Shinovar, I'm guessing it might be a Szeth relative with an honorblade.

>> No.17008198

>>17008184
I don't know, Rosharans think every gaijin is Shin because of their eyes and this character's autistic connection with the number 16 makes me think it's some Shard related bullshit

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>>16999064
I think I've had enough. It's time to burn it all down and start again.

>> No.17008218

>>16999635
I thought SJWs hate it because the MC likes hot chicks and is therefore misogynist?

>> No.17008319

>>17007221
I'll watch it for sure, thanks for bringing it up

>> No.17008355

>>17007221
Tell me more

>> No.17008570

>>17007221
First and Last Men,,,,female narrator.
FTGE

>> No.17008705

>>17008155
I'm guessing a terrisman feruchemist

>> No.17008791
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>>16998984
The Consuming Fire, The Interdependency #2 - John Scalzi (2018)

This was significantly better than the first book, which I rated 4 stars. It's simply very fun the entire time throughout and when considering its brisk pace and ~300 pages there wasn't any point where I wasn't enjoying myself or feeling that it was bloated. I thought over a while whether I should rate this 4 or 5 stars, so I've settled on 4.5 rounded up for now.
Is this is a literary treat? No, obviously not, it's more like summer blockbuster or tv series that's just a lot of fun. If that isn't something you enjoy, then this, or really anything Scalzi writes, isn't going to be for you. At the end there's a scene that's very reminiscent of an iconic scene in Breaking Bad and I don't know if that was intentional or not, but it was still extremely fun either way. Considering the religious implications of the scene, it may also be a reference to Hebrews 12:29.
Scalzi definitely has a lot of misses for me, but this certainly isn't one of them. The one thing I wonder the most about this series though is how much of it is an emulation of "What if my daughter had wrote this?" (20 at the time), which he has certainly improved upon from Zoe's Tale. It doesn't read really at all to me as if were written by a 51 year old man, which if anything is a testament to his ability to adapt to trends to continue writing salable commercial fiction. I don't see anything wrong with treating writing as a job.
Rating: 4.5/5

>> No.17008867

>>17007630
>no way fag

>> No.17009097

>>17006350
>TAE
?

>> No.17009106

>>17006879
Wheel of Time

>>17007583
>Should I press on to book 2 right away, or read something else in between?
You have to answer that yourself. Book 2 was good.

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17009157

What are your opinions on 'The Laundry Files'?
Worth reading?

>> No.17009159

>>17009097
The aspect emperor dumb retard

>> No.17009173

do you reckon kellhus and the dunyain worked out and trained, he must have to have been that good with a sword and that athletic, right?

>> No.17009187

>>17009157
it's basically dilbert meets lovecraft. the first book was okay not great, didn't read the sequels.

>> No.17009188

>>17006350
Kellhus figures out and basically does whim hoff breathing method calling it ancient dunyain breathing techniques to stay warm. And yeah dunyan have major autism.

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>>17009173
Yeah, they probably had a nice little autistic training gym in Ishüal for HEMA (historic Eärwa martial arts). K recc’d the Sranc and almost bested a Nonman during his very first sword fight ever.

>> No.17009207

>>17009173
Yeah they have an autistic training regimen to master the space around them. They talk about it in one of the chapters.

>> No.17009247

I've been browsing amazon, and I've fallen down a weird rabbit hole of american anime novels. I get that anime has become mainstream, but I'm surprised by how many there are. One guy has written dozens of haremshit novels. He's done sci-fi harems, he's done fantasy harems, he's done fox girl harems, he's done catgirl harems, and more. I'm a shit writer but I'm honestly considering writing a shitty anime knock-off and seeing how well it does.

>> No.17009320

>>17002906
Gl you big dummy

>> No.17009590

>>17009187
>dilbert meets lovecraft
That sounds pretty cool.

>> No.17010201

>>17009247
Oh man I've seen those. They're abominations

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what a mess

>> No.17010409

Do you think people are really going to keep caring about CSM though ?
I mean it feels like since Aki's death the only reason to keep reading was the escalating climax. Don't get me wrong, I don't particularly like Aki, but it's just that his death reallt started the final part of the arc. I don't think Fujimoto can set up another cast and expect people to care about them, or expect us to believe Denji will face hard challenges or develop as a character. But I also doubt he's going to completely change the tone of the story.

>> No.17010435

>>17010409
Maybe we'll get Chainsaw Man vs. Gun Devil finally in Part 2 but real talk fuck all that
what is One Piece Chapter 1000 going to be about?

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>>16998984
Whats their fucking problem?

>> No.17010491

>>17008062
Eh, they're basically just a reaffirmation of his consistent theme that God is there and cares for you. Is Deus ex Machina bad if it's an intentional core of the work?

>> No.17010555

>>17010446
They were the ancient evil which had to awaken.

>> No.17010596

Did Kellhus fuck Leweth?

>> No.17011528
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>>17007221
>>17008355
Just finished watching it.
It's a SF art film, very slow paced with Tilda Swinton narrating and B&W imagery from scultpures and Soviet era architecture from Yugoslavia or somewhere, all accompanied with mellow and trippy orchestral music.

I haven't read Stapledon's book (I know Arthur C. Clarke rated it very highly, as one of the "most imaginative books ever" or something), but the premise is that 3 billion years into the future, humanity has evolved and moved to Neptune to escape a Solar catastrophe. The film explores this evolution with few bits of information about their culture and how they set out to seed the stars. They have strange technologies or telepathic powers and they're able to contact us, the first men, before their known universe collapses under a new threat (a supernova).
I liked it very much, I don't mind slow paced movies with no action. There must be 10 or so pages of dialogue in a 1h10m film so mileage may vary a lot. I'm a sucker for anything about the scale of the universe and our tiny human fate.

>> No.17011667

>>17010491
Having read none of his other stuff, I'd say being a core of one work is fine, but it smells like a problem that would come across in all his writings.

>> No.17011746
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Why do these constantly make me think the authors are trying to sound smart?
Why are there so many explanations that serve no purpose?
Why is all the super advanced alien shit so fucking unimaginative and boring?
Why does none of the futuristic technology stand out?
Why are almost all of the characters so unlikable?
Why does anyone take belters seriously?
Why did this even get adapted and how is the tv series so much better?

>> No.17011761

>>17011746
nobody knows the answers to these questions anon, just enjoy the tv series, it's pretty rare for a decent sci-fi show to come into existence.

>> No.17011973

>>17011746
>Why is all the super advanced alien shit so fucking unimaginative and boring?
Is it just "Oh this can fire a super strong laser beam" and "We can't even scratch this super-alloy"?

>> No.17012010

>>17010596
Probally not. Hate to be that guy but it’s discussed quite heavily on /r/bakker and the forums.

>> No.17012073

>>17002867
>Then the last 5% of the book throws that out the window and teleport them into an ending outta nowhere.
> so he just quickly threw together some rushed (compared to the other 700+ pages) unsatisfying ending.
I find it very puzzling that Jordan never gets called out for his atrocious endings, at least in the more popular reception. They are ever dire, always rushed, filled with asspulls& poor logic, forsaken cosplaying as Team Rocket and often barely connected to what happens in the rest of the book. Even book 6 ending that people rave about is a ~14 page long climax with poorly laid out and simplistic combat topped with an asspull. It's like after 1000 pages of nothing, just a whiff and touch of epic, however poorly construed, is enough for people to bust a nut. And if NS is anything to go by, Jordan never improved, he only got worse.

>Egwene is such a boring, miserable cunt
Book one is her at her best.

>> No.17012307

>>17011973
Kind of. It really just feels mundane, like the way to make something alien is to make it bigger.

>> No.17012488 [DELETED] 

>>17000023
Damn ur a mad nigger aren't you

>> No.17012968

any recommended medieval court intrigue style books? stuff with a male mc preferred, like assassin's apprentice or age of assassins. assassins not required.

>> No.17013068

>>17012968
song of arbonne and guy gavirel kay in general

>> No.17013539

>>16999101
Shareholders

>> No.17013597

>>17013539
They understand what the people want

Oh well, haven't they been trying to get a Watch series made for a decade at least? Fuck I think PTerry was still alive when they started talking about it

Such is the fate of everything in development hell

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>>16998984
Providence - Max Barry (2020)

Normally I would have dropped this early on, but since I've read all his previous novels and thought they were all at least decent except for one, I decided to push through to the end. This was a mistake. The entire time I thought that there would be a twist and it wasn't going to be what it kept telling me it was. I simply couldn't believe it was going to play it straight the entire time. It did. As with all his previous novels this was a satire and I've enjoyed reading him for a specific brand of satirical work. Unfortunately I wasn't able to appreciate the satire this time, at either its implicit or explicit levels. The explicit satire is having a war against aliens being turned into a social media campaign. The implicit satire is that nothing that you could ever do matters and anything that you ever try to do will only make everything worse and cause ever more suffering unto death. Everything is predetermined and your struggle only hurts yourself. Because of this I found it to be boring and unenjoyable. All four of the characters were awful, but considering their circumstances it would be odd if they weren't.

Rating: 2/5

>> No.17013693

>>17013677
>Everything is predetermined and your struggle only hurts yourself
That's even contradictory!

>> No.17013719

>>17013677
Isn't that the dude who made the nationstates browser game?

>> No.17013742

>>17013719
Yes, it's loosely related to his novel Jennifer Government.

>> No.17013780

>>17013719
i miss good fun browser games

>> No.17013813
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17013813

Let me know if I'm retarded, but I just finished this and I'm trying to figure it out.
The Difference Engine, at the end, has become if not a singularity then at least self aware and is working through how that happened. It became self aware thanks to some mathematical program on the Engine cards that self-analyses. The cards travel Mick Radley, Sybil, some Frenchman and into the Napoleon Computer or whatever it was called and wreck it, then Captain Swing gets them, then Ada Byron, who hands them off to Mallory who hides them in the Brontosaurus skull. Then they're stolen again, but Oliphant gets them back and Keats winds up running them in the English system.
HOWEVER
Most of the book isn't related to this at all and just seems like an excuse to try (badly) to use Victorian slang and expressions and worldbuild some alt-history. Didn't like it, would not recommend.

>> No.17013926
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17013926

>book 1: ok kinda meanders a bit but it's at least funny
>book 2: ok now this is getting good
>book 3: holy shit this is amazing
I am blown away by the Ill Made Knight. Absolutely love the way he wrote Lancelot and Galahad

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Is there a name for the mood you're in when you don't really feel like going through a proper story and would rather skim a wiki for a fictional work you're interested in?
Also, should I look into video game lore for such a mood? Seems like it might make sense given as video games often don't have worthwhile tales
Hopefully such a request makes sense

>> No.17014195

>>17013813
Could have copied this to gr. Also, wow, the group ratings for that are awful. Almost all 1 stars.

>> No.17014219

>>17014136
Videojames lore is good for wikidiving, yeah. You can find some decent ideas for retooling too.

>> No.17014286

>>17013926
Frankly I liked the earlier books more than the last one. It felt like the last book had a very fast pace that the earlier books didn't really maintain, and while it was still very strong (and emotional), I think that the overall structure didn't really support it. Very nice book overall, though.

>> No.17014682

>>17011528
Yeah. And then you realize that Last and First Men is small time compared to his Star Maker.

>> No.17014689

>>17014136
40k was essentially made for this

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>>16998984
Currently reading Sung in Blood and I quickly understand that older I get the less patience I have for endless tomes filled with filler descriptions to pad out page counts that most fantasy works are. Basically, I realize I like Cook's writing more and more with his straight to the point minimal descriptions. Novel itself is so far a whodunit story about a legendary protector of a city who gets offed and it falls on his son and his posse to figure out who did it and why.

>> No.17014914

>>17014286
I haven't got to Candle in the Wind yet but I guess it's to be expected due to how short it is.

>> No.17014955

>Read Malazan and really enjoy it
>read forge of darkness and really enjoy it
>look for fall of light but it’s not available as a MMPB
Why do publishers do this?

>> No.17014957

>>17014715
how does it compare to black company? pretty much the same?

>> No.17014970

>>17014955
Fall of Light is such a good book too and then it flopped so there will never be a conclusion to the trilogy

>> No.17014976

>>17014970
I think Erickson said that it will come out in 2023 but I know that shit will be impossible to get at either a decent price or it’ll take ages to ship

>> No.17015512
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17015512

What's /ourguy/ Ishar doing trying to physically manifest spren?

>> No.17015811

>>17014957
He released around the time when Books of the South were coming out so it's not a prototype for Black Company like The Swordbearer was in a sense, but you can still tell it's similar. Everyone uses nicknames, magic is vague and unexplained so far, close knit group of characters, evil oriental midgets as antagonists, etc.

>> No.17015886

>>17012968
Nine Princes in Amber

>> No.17016042

>>17013813
They tried to do something different from the cyberpunk they'd been writing. I blame Sterling for this one. He's a smart guy that loves research but he can be so dry and uninvolving.

>> No.17016054

Punish the shrial knights

>> No.17016185

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-USq25qFgA

It's up

>> No.17016329

>>17012488
>he said, deciding to be a cancerous rectal fissure instead of discussing books

>> No.17016336

>>17015512
Harem. Obviously.

>> No.17016875

Why is 80% of this thread copypasta?

>> No.17016987

>>17016875
People don't read books

>> No.17017024

>>17016042
>dry and uninvolving
Sterling is a very funny guy even when talks about the most technical subjects
https://youtu.be/KFpIpp4pRVI

>> No.17017026
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17017026

Anyone know how he's doing? His internet presence went completely dark at the start of covid. He hasn't updated his blog or twitter since February. Not a peep about the No-God books. Hope he's doing okay bros.

>> No.17017152

>>17000499
It was the first book by Greg Egan that I read and while I was expecting some hard sci-fi I wasn't expecting to kinda wanna cry

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I remember reading a book or two from this series like 20 years ago and liking it (I think there were whales and shit? And people suspected main heroes having incestual romance because reasons). Is it actually good? Apparently there're also revised editions that supposedly fix the timeline, should I read them or stick with the originals?

>> No.17017406

>>17014136
I beat Bloodborne without ever playing it just by reading wiki.

>> No.17017466
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The Three-Body Problem - Why are all the characters so poorly written? This is atrocious, I barely managed to finish the book. At its best It's like a bad tv show with tropey characters, but some parts are down right embarrassing.
I enjoyed TBP when it didn't have humans interacting. Is the second book any better?

>> No.17017467
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The year is about to end. What GRI Approved books did you read for 2020?

>> No.17017472

>>16999635
Not really, not. But author self-inserts as middle-aged kike nerd who kicks all kinds of ass while also having threesomes with two werewolf chicks. Before he started doing that the books were decent which can't be said about the latest two.

>> No.17017480

>>17000287
8 frames, 3 drawings.

>> No.17017518

So many years ago I've read a book about a guy who gets transported to another world, and it isn't really clear if he's imagining stuff or if he's really in another world. He also raped a woman because he thought it was a fantasy.
I'm pretty sure it was part of a series of books. Does anyone know what's the name of book? I can't find it.

>> No.17017690

>>17017392
The revised editions also rewrite for pc reasons, like with the whole autistic kid book, so I'd skip them.

>> No.17017734

>>17017518
Thomas Covenant

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>>17017734
>Now I have a 99th-percentile vocabulary, and it includes a lot of those words

>> No.17017773

>>17017734
That's the one. Thanks.
Is it worth reading? I'm probably gonna try it anyway to see how it stacks against my hazy memories.

>> No.17017844

>>17017773
>Is it worth reading?
No. It's gets annoying because he repeats the same words ad nauseam

>> No.17017852

>>17017467
I read Bakker for the first time this year, was a wild ride.

>> No.17017928

Bakkerbros how are Cishaurim and Chorae pronounced? Kish-awe-rim and Ko-ra-eh?

>> No.17017981

What are some good Christian Fantasy?

>> No.17017996

>>17017749
On a serious note, this is why I like reading on an ereader. If I don't know what a word means all I have to do is tap it.

>> No.17018016

>>17017981
The Wizard Knight

>> No.17018028

>>17017749
Some of these words are not like the others...

>> No.17018084

>>17002906
Good luck! :)))

>> No.17018093

>>17014715
Ironically that's exactly what many don't like about Cook. His writing tends to be on "we came, we fought, we left" side.

>> No.17018098

>>17002906
What's the deadline? When do they expect it in their inbox? Also you better get someone with good English / Grammar to proof read your shit for you.

>> No.17018229

>>17004274
Fuck reading comedy desu. It gets a bit too... "british" for me in novel form if that makes sense

>> No.17018306

>>17017928
Pretty much, I believe. Indara-Kishauri -> Cishaurim.

>> No.17018428

>>17018093
this, started the black company a few days ago, dropped after 50 pages, his writing is god-awful. all the characters are uninteresting, not fleshed out, world is unexplained, their role in things is unexplained, it feels like i started reading book 2 chapter 7. can't even tell what the fuckin plot is.
how these are so highly rated i'll never understand, feels like they were written by a teenager.

>> No.17018476

>>17018428
What do you mean? I read it 10 years ago, but iirc MC is a chronicler for a mercenary company, they're working in some city where shits going haywire. They kill a voodoo panther then get picked up by the sexy composite personality demigod and brought over the fight for her queen with some other demigods. MC has some retarded dream connection with the queen. They do that for awhile then at the end I think there's a rebellion of some sort. The plot is entirely self-contained, no?

>> No.17018504

>>17018428
>started the black company a few days ago
You're saying the same thing a brainlet posted a couple of months ago though.
The book is written as a campaign diary. This framing device allows the narrator to skip on details since if he has to retell the events by reading them to his illiterate companions, he'll remember those details, and if not, another archivist will make things up, which is the custom. First 50 pages are about a very hot colonial like place, like a fantasy Bahamas or something. Then they travel North. It's cold, there are buildings made of stone and wood.
They're a mercenary company, under a shady sorcerer. They get tossed around. The focus is on conflict, duty and the 'honor' of the company. The people of the company.
It's written for and by a company of soldiers. Have you read Storm of Steel? Watched Generation Kill? The Black Company doesn't run things, they probably don't know the reasons why they do this or that. This is not just a wild deduction. It's literally spelled out for you. So if you don't like this sort of "make up your own pretty pictures" and "fit the puzzle together later, maybe", then don't bother.

>> No.17018538

>>17018504
generation kill was excellent, black company is not, sorry. chronicler of a company of warriors means there's no character to latch on to, there's no personal stakes, it's just some dudes doing things. there's no stakes, no reason to give a shit, and the events are described as sparsely as you mentioned, so no worldbuilding of note.

>> No.17018577

>>17018538
Honestly you just got filtered, and all you're doing right now is outing yourself as a pleb. I'm sorry

>> No.17018700

>>17018538
You're supposed to latch on to the main character and chronicler.
>there's no stakes, no reason to give a shit
Keep reading, or not, who cares. It's a group of men hired to do the dirty work. Why would there be any stakes other than getting out alive and getting paid? They're a crummy bunch, like mercenaries, except they're this legendary company, slightly better than others.
>worldbuilding of note
One way to look at worldbuilding is how it's of service to the story and the characters. If it makes sense and fits the tone. If it's imaginative without being distracting, without breaking pace.
The worldbuilding in Black Company is about the customs of the company, their employers and how they rule and what they want their hirelings to do. The chronicler can't feed you these details because he doesn't know them himself. He's puzzling over it along with the reading.
It's very clearly character driven. This sort of books are alright, sometimes.
Black Company is enjoyable for its cynicism, the "fellowship" and the weird wizards.
Sorry if you're too lazy. Maybe check the wikipedia pages rich in details about nonsense like factions and religions to decide what you'll read next.

>> No.17018754

>>17017024
Honestly I think he's better at short stories and other things besides fiction. Heavy Weather was a slog to finish and I dropped Difference Engine. I will give Islands in the Net another try sometime.

>> No.17018792

Thank god for ereaders
one week one book done
there's just so many books, guys, I juggle wanting to learn and eanting to read for fun

>> No.17018870

I just reread enders game after a long time and it was really good. The only thing I still don't get was what the computer game meant. Like what the giant and wolves and mirror and all that stuff represented. Also if the buggers read enders mind and knew they were going to get wrecked why not just leave their planet and colonize a new non earth world? Otherwise I liked how it was almost entirely a coming of age training montage.

>> No.17018892

>>17018870
still the only book I've reread multiple times
I lurk for the dream of finding another book just as compelling

>> No.17019014

>>17017467
What does gri even mean? I don't get it.

>> No.17019155

>>16999507
>I'm going to have to subtract two stars because there aren't enough black and female characters
Not the reason for the rating

>> No.17019165

SFFG is dead. Just let it rest. Let today be the final nail in the coffin.

No one here reads anymore.

>> No.17019304

>>17019165
>No one here reads anymore.
nobody ever did

>> No.17019320

>>17019155
True. Other anon saw only what he wanted to see, I guess

>> No.17019321

>>17019165
well we'll always have you here with your whining

>> No.17019323

>>17018870
>Also if the buggers read enders mind and knew they were going to get wrecked why not just leave their planet and colonize a new non earth world?
I read it for the first time recently and I thought they didn't know they were going to be annihilated until he first used Dr. Device on them; so they wouldn't have had that long of a time to do a total evacuation, I think. And even if they did it's not like humans couldn't try to hunt them, so perhaps it was better to make a final stand. Anyway, I think it was a good book but some of the dialogue was bad and it felt pretty YA at times. Currently reading Speaker for the Dead and it's significantly better IMO.

>> No.17019347

>>17019323
>And even if they did it's not like humans couldn't try to hunt them
To expand on this, that was the total point of what the humans were doing anyway. They wanted to annihilate the buggers to make sure they would never attack again. If the buggers ran humans would still perceive them as a threat.

>> No.17019375

>tfw I didn't listen to the How to Read Dune pic and now I'm stuck suffering through Heretics and Chapterhouse
I know it said that the quality drops off after God-Emperor but good lord what happened did Herbert have a stroke between writing book four and five?

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Since the thread has hit bump limit I'll post my current status on Rokujouma. I've read the first 5 volumes. I'm pretty upset by the mindwipe at the end of volume 5. Yurika finally was acknowledge as a magical girl, but now she is going back to being the butt of all jokes. Everyone refusing to believe she can use magic is still funny, but I don't know for how long.
Current girl ranking is Yurika>Sanae>Theia>Harumi>Ruth>Kiriha>Landlord

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Fellow litanons stay away from this even if you enjoyed the previous books.
>battles are so boring and contribute nothing to the plot that you can just skip to their end
>lindon uses "stuff" to become more powerfull, yada, yada
>support characters also become more powerful, yada, yada ("oh no, lindon will leave us behind!")
>still not powerful enough because dreadgods, abidan, etc, etc
>wait for next book

>> No.17019683

>>17017466
I blame the weird character beats on either a shit translation or just a failure of adequately portraying Chinese culture for a wider audience.
I liked the concepts and the story itself, but I thought the writing was subpar at best for exactly those reasons.

>> No.17019715

>>17019390
>I'm pretty upset by the mindwipe at the end of volume 5. Yurika finally was acknowledge as a magical girl, but now she is going back to being the butt of all jokes.
That's what you get for reading some shit series that's drawn out to interminable length to sell as many volumes as possible.

>> No.17019721

>>17018229
I get that. It almost by design has to be word-play and punnery in written format (like deadpan British nonsense) since you can't really convey tone or timing in a written sentence. I enjoy all of it sometimes.

>> No.17019736

>>17017981
Till We Have Faces
Between Two Fires
I also generally like Brent Weeks' stuff

>> No.17019739

>>17018428
desu I just read it as well and kinda felt like that, but around halfway through I started to understand the feel and really liked it

>> No.17019754

>>17019715
>That's what you get for reading some shit series that's drawn out to interminable length to sell as many volumes as possible.
Imagine complaining about this in this thread of all places.

>> No.17019777

>>17019754
I primarily read sci-fi and this is mostly a problem with modern fantasy. No one's forcing you to read that stuff.

>> No.17019798

>>17019754
Also that light novel series he posted is 36 volumes. Nothing that gets talked about here is that bad.

>> No.17019811

>>17019798
>Nothing that gets talked about here is that bad.
Wheel of Time is still longer and more stretched out than any shitty light novel.

>> No.17019823

>>17007583
>The book also felt like a extended prologue.
That's because it basically is one. It's very different from every other book in the series. With the reveal at the end of the book, you know what Rand is, and that is what dominates the rest of the series, him having to grow into that role. The first book is this weird Tolkien ripoff adventure, but every book after it is more about the prophecies of the Dragon and Rand grappling with his destiny and how he's meant to fulfill it.

>> No.17019835

>>17019681
Isn't that the whole point of that genre? It's just endless training and getting stronger. How have you made it to book 8 if you don't like that?

>> No.17019838

>>17019811
Not in the sense of milking you for money. Each volume of that 36 volume series is $6.99 on Amazon.

>> No.17019849

>>17019838
Also each one is only around 200 pages.

>> No.17019866

>>17019838
English translations of things are always overpriced. An English manga volume costs 3 times what that manga costs in Japan.

>> No.17019882

>anime book gets posted
>people start throwing a fit
Every time.

>> No.17019906

>>17019866
I checked Amazon.jp and the price of the Japanese volumes are ~650 yen, or $6.25. No significant difference.

>> No.17020241

Why is modern fantasy literature so fucking bad? I don't get this feeling when playing games or watching movies but when reading a book it's like I'm reading the author's LSD trip they took.

>> No.17020282

The Consult unironically did nothing wrong

>> No.17020301

>>17020298