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[Anonymous No.16964377]

Why are academics such arrogant pricks?
This Fagler faggot really spoiled an important part of the story in the first 3 pages of his translators preface and then went ahead and summarized the whole fucking plot in the second page of the introduction. I don’t even want to keep reading.

Fuck this shit, I swear I will never read another intro again.

[Anonymous No.16964392]

>>16964377
you got filtered. not even by the illiad, but by reading itself. the intorduction and the commentaries are the pearls of any great work.

[Anonymous No.16964396]

>>16964377
It's an over 2000 year old book. Are you really complaining about spoilers for it?

It won't ruin your experience since you're supposed to know what happens (The Greeks already did when they listened to the oral performances) Also I believe Zeus appears in the middle and just tells you how it ends anyway too.

[Anonymous No.16964418]

>the intorduction and the commentaries are the pearls of any great work

[Anonymous No.16964423]

>>16964377
I never read Introductions before I read the book. Especially when they go on forever when I just want to read the text.

[Anonymous No.16964430]

>>16964418
yes

[Anonymous No.16964456]

>>16964377
>>16964377
>reading for plot
I bet you like pegging too you fuck.

[Anonymous No.16964459]

>>16964377
The story is basically common knowledge at this point. You shouldn't be indignant about "spoilers."

[Anonymous No.16964461]

Only people who look like this read the introduction and discussion first
Hell only people who look like this read it AT ALL

[Anonymous No.16964472]

>>16964461
thanks, gonna read all my introductions now so I can look like femboy Link

[Anonymous No.16964487]

>>16964461
he hot

[Anonymous No.16964498]

>>16964377
> Not reading it in the OG Greek

[Anonymous No.16964530]

>>16964377
>>16964396 is correct. The Iliad takes place towards the end of the Trojan War myth. You should know the beginning, Middle, and end before you read the Iliad to better contextualize. Also, after reading The Iliad but before reading the Odyssey, you should read Euripedes plays related to the Trojan War.

[Anonymous No.16964534]

Lol it came out 2500 years ago bro, don’t stress about spoilers

[Anonymous No.16964875]

>>16964498
you got this image off of goolag anon, stop the larp

[Anonymous No.16965470]

everyone knows you read the intro afterwards

[Anonymous No.16965511]

>>16964461
H-How did you know?

[Anonymous No.16965525]

>>16965470
Not for classical works unless you already have the knowledge required to understand them properly

[Anonymous No.16965543]

>>16964530
disagree, greek epic/tragedy should be read chronologically to understand the development of greek thought/themes.

aesch, soph., and eurip. wrote relatively in the same era, but were apart enough in age to represent the fashion of their times.

in any case, the tragedians would present alternative plots of the mythos freely, so it's not like they're "canonical" in the first place.

[Anonymous No.16965631]

>>16965525
I still find reading after to be more effective and it allows me to consider the work on my own before my thoughts become influenced by anyone else’s

[Anonymous No.16965657]

>caring about spoilers
Reddit

[Anonymous No.16965729]

>>16965543
They all start and finish in the right place that they could all interchangeably fit into the wider chronology. Look at Electra, she must hate her mother and ultimately support Orestes' plan. But does she wait nervously outside, does she shout encouragement through the door, does she hold the weapon with her brother? Same end, but the characters are shown just that not differently.

[Anonymous No.16965736]

>>16964392
Wrong, you dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.16965908]

Darth Vader is Luke father

[Anonymous No.16966569]

>>16964377
This isn't a marvel movie brainlet, you're supposed to know the plot before reading.

[Anonymous No.16966572]

>>16965908
WHAT!?

[Anonymous No.16967988]

>>16964396
Why are you supposed to know what happened? Retard. I dont know anything about these old stories, and I dont want them spoiled to me.

[Anonymous No.16967995]

>>16964377
plotlet
the plot is only a very SMALL part of the experience

[Anonymous No.16968002]

>>16967988
then don't read introductions retard

[Anonymous No.16968018]

>>16964392
Complete brainlet take

>>16964377
You'll have to learn the original Greek language, contemporary Western academics are pseudo-bourgeois plebs who unironically spend seminar talking about BLM idpol and forcibly inject intersectionality into Classical translation

[Anonymous No.16968055]

>>16964377
Homer lays out the entire plot of the Iliad in the opening lines. This is either fantastic bait or you are just a poor reader.

[Anonymous No.16968063]

>>16964377
>Caring about being spoiled
Maybe MCU movies might be up your alley.

[Anonymous No.16968122]

>>16964377
>Spoiler
>Nearly 3000 year old story

I think reading might not be for you. You should try something else, like wearing a MAGA hat.

[Anonymous No.16968128]

>>16968018
You're dumb.

[Anonymous No.16968133]

>>16964377
>read the intro
found the new reader

[Anonymous No.16968136]

Can anyone explain this absolute revulsion to spoilers people have? It's never changed my enjoyment of anything.

[Anonymous No.16968179]

>>16964377
>reading the iliad for the plot
also, it's common knowledge that prefaces aren't spoiler free, your own mistake, but now you've learned, you can read those things afterwards sometimes they contain interesting information, sometimes they do not

[Anonymous No.16968192]

Reading the introduction for anything is a waste of time especially when its some cuck translator and no the author

[Anonymous No.16968233]

>>16968136
people feel obliged to consume and it creates anxiety over not enjoying things "properly"

[Anonymous No.16968297]

Spoilers are a reddit concept

[Anonymous No.16968319]

>>16964377
Zeus spoils the ending in book 6 or 7 you dumb fucking retard. Please lurk for 1 year minimum before posting a thread. In the meantime learn not to care about plot

[Anonymous No.16968332]

>>16964377
>THEY SPOILED A 2800 YEAR OLD STORY

[Anonymous No.16968335]

>>16967988
>Retard. I dont know anything about these old stories, and I dont want them spoiled to me.
Brainlet, this isn't about the story, because it isn't some le epic plot twist blockbuster movie. If you keep reading the introduction, you absolute dumbass, you'll have a chance to learn what the Iliad is about and what to focus on while reading it. Incredibly, if you can fucking believe it, knowing the story beforehand helps in your reading, because of little things like foreshadowing, fate and irony that you'd miss if you didn't know what's about to happen. Fucking hell, stop being an idiot anon and keep reading. Imagine hitting a wall after 3 pages of the fucking introduction of the very first book in your quest to be a little less of moron. What a tragedy.

[Anonymous No.16968367]

>>16964377
Owned

[Anonymous No.16968376]

>>16964377
... you are complaining about spoilers for... the illiad...?
... anon have you thought about getting your IQ tested?

[Anonymous No.16968381]

>>16964377
This was originally an oral story and all the greeks were familiar with the background and plot before they heard the story as a performance. He is just setting you up to be in the same position. Also you may not have noticed there is a lot of background to the story that you should know before jumping in, as the Illiad jumps in at the very end of the war.

[Anonymous No.16968464]

>>16964377
>unironically being a disgusting unhygienic plotfag

[Anonymous No.16968692]

I was going to read mein kamph but then I heard this Hitler guy was already dead, like, spoiler warning jeez

[Anonymous No.16968770]

>>16968136
Doing something surprising has a strong emotional impact and many people enjoy that feeling. If you know the 'twist' beforehand obviously you won't get that experience. Of course a book that relies solely on its ending won't probably be particularly good, but I don't think that having something surprising occur is a bad idea in and of itself; you can think of the unexpected as a bit of spice to the story. Missing out on that bit of spice might make the experience a little worse, but it's hardly something to fret about.

[Anonymous No.16969223]

>>16968770
You clearly haven't read the Iliad. That's not how Homer's epics are written, there is no suspense whatsoever

[Anonymous No.16969268]

>>16969223
Hey, peabrain. He's not talking about the Iliad and there is in fact suspense in Homer (the word doesn't mean what you thing it means). Way to be wrong about everything.

[Anonymous No.16969272]

>>16964377
good art cannot be spoiled

[Anonymous No.16969281]

>>16964377
>spoiled
How did you not already know the story of the Iliad before reading it?