Masculinity

[Anonymous No.16955728]

Do books about masculinity help discover how to be masculine?
I'm not masculine at all and I'm short too. I'm trying to cope with this without learning how to be gay or a tranny.
Theres no worthwhile cope is there? Especially if you're not handsome twink looking like some asian pop star that girls like.

[Anonymous No.16955735]

>>16955728
Start with the Greeks

[Anonymous No.16955743]

>>16955735
This.

[Anonymous No.16955745]

>>16955735
I don't think he should

[Anonymous No.16955753]

>>16955735
The gayreeks raped boys

[Anonymous No.16955765]

>>16955753
That’s what makes you manly

[Anonymous No.16955770]

>>16955728
You do the opposite of read idiot. You just act and throw out any thoughts that don't facilitate winning. Once you've mastered this then you can think and think grand thoughts. But first if you don't act and push the boundaries of your courage then it's all fruitless

[Anonymous No.16955780]

>>16955770
Why if my definition of winning isn't what masculine people consider winning because keep down I don't approve of masculine methods as they don't resonate with me?
I'm too nice and I feel bad when I encroach or take control.

[Anonymous No.16955784]

>>16955728
start with the Greeks, grow competence by learning a skill (profession, trade, whatever you can do, just be very good) and living life.

t. Manly Chad, you probably won't be a chad but if you're genuinely manly (somewhat less attractive) women will still be attracted to you.

[Anonymous No.16955798]

>>16955784
Thanks for nothing I do that already

[Anonymous No.16955846]

>>16955780
I'm only offering you the water. If you made this post then you must feel a little thirsty but we can not force others to drink lest they wish to themselves. Reevaluate your values or dont.

[Anonymous No.16955861]

>>16955846
I'm not sure if I can even reevaluate them sufficiently enough. I'm like this because I tried to be masculine and it didn't work. It backfires because I don't have the nerve to back it up.

[Anonymous No.16955871]

>>16955855
Let's get something done then. Let's escape all misery permanently through antinatalism

[Anonymous No.16955891]

Nobody cares if the ugly bald manlet acts like augustus, appearances are the main determinant of if others see you as manly

[Anonymous No.16955907]

>>16955753
It was consensual

[Anonymous No.16955912]

>>16955780
>I don't approve of masculine methods as they don't resonate with me?
try not being a faggot

[Anonymous No.16955914]

>>16955891
This only applies (somewhat) women. Other men know manly men regardless of appearances.

[Anonymous No.16955931]

>>16955914
Hmm, I'm not sure I agree with that
I'm not an incel mind you, and I know that upon deeper inspection men will come to recognize things in other men, but I believe in the ugly they will be seen as virtue and not manliness

[Anonymous No.16956018]

>>16955728
sounds like you weren't close to your dad

[Anonymous No.16956038]

>>16956018
I wasn't. But he was always here

[Anonymous No.16956053]

>>16956038
spend more time with him instead of trying to find father figures in books

[Anonymous No.16956068]

>>16956053
I do. But I hate the dominating part of him so I just can't adopt it. Because its just not nice.

[Anonymous No.16956095]

>>16956068
There is no prize in life for being nice

[Anonymous No.16956108]

>>16956095
Peoples' friendliness is one.

[Anonymous No.16956157]

>>16955728
I'm suspicious of any book that makes such a transparent attempt to commodify masculinity

Rather than start with the Greeks, I'd recommend picking up a book related to a particular skill you'd like to learn. Identify any current hobbies based in consumption and infantilization (vidya, anime, fandoms, etc.) and replace them with an activity that's productive

I'll also add that getting at least somewhat /fit/ is probably the best first step towards becoming more traditionally masculine. Cutting out processed foods alone can have a huge impact; a modern diet can wreak physiological havoc and definitely contributes to emasculation

[Anonymous No.16956180]

>>16956157
I always wondered this but what is inherently wrong with video games?

[Anonymous No.16956195]

>>16956180
Waste of time, especially twitch shooters.
Shit like Arma maybe has some merit for war simulation but it's mostly virtual LARP.
Strategy games like 4x are useful exercises, some RTS games are also nice.

[Anonymous No.16956202]

>>16956180
not the other guy but here's my thoughts

the problem is adopting "gamer" as an identity and investing too much (however you define it) money and time into the hobby.

[Anonymous No.16956248]

>>16956202
many hobbies are timesinks and moneypits

[Anonymous No.16956307]

>>16956180
There's nothing inherently "wrong" about vidya or similar hobbies, they're just a waste of time that could be better spent on self-improvement and skill development. I rarely play video games because when I do, I always feel like there's something more important I could be doing. No one's a perfect machine and sometimes you just need to zone out, but be aware that time is finite and there's a value hierarchy of recreation activities

Envision the "consummate man" or an ideally masculine version of yourself. Does that guy spend hours a day playing video games?

[Anonymous No.16956310]

>>16955753
“Raped”

[Anonymous No.16956311]

>>16956248
Which is why most are a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.16956316]

Santiago from The Old Man and the Sea is the ideal mindset for a man, change my mind.

[Anonymous No.16956320]

>>16956311
>>16956248
Hobbies are something to be done after you achieve your goals. If you still have shit you ought to be getting done work on that.
If you accomplished everything you want to do then play vidya to your hearts content ig.

I quit last year, I'll return to them when i'm 50