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>Diogenes of Sinope > Plato

Discuss.

>> No.1693517

Your thread is blocking my sunlight.

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>>1693517

>> No.1693551

I don't agree, but Diogenes was still pretty cool, so we can be friends anyway, guy.

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>>1693512
>OMG SO EDGY XD > Intelligent gentleman
I see.

>> No.1693566

There are Diogenes-like fuckers on the streets. Can you honestly compare these assholes to one of history's most celebrate philosophers?

>> No.1693578

>>1693512
Cooler, yes. Ideas more relevant today? Yes. But Plato was a genius, and a brilliant writer. Diogenes of Sinope was basically a troll.

>> No.1693582

>plato genius

>> No.1693589

>>1693582
Plato was the first to systematise philosophy. Okay, pretty much everything in his philosophy is wrong and it was taken far too seriously and twisted by later philosophers, but if Plato isn't a genius I'm not sure if antiquity had any (hint: it did).

>> No.1693592

they both were trolls that didn't contribute much else than criticism of other, and yeah Diogenes was the superior troll

>> No.1695106

Diogenes is the fucking punk rock of philosophy. Waaaaay better than Plato. AND he lived in a bath-tub. I luv that guy.

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>>1695106
>the fucking punk rock of philosophy
Exactly. He was silly.

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Αντε γαμήσου έκανα δυτική φιλοσοφία

>> No.1695119

>>1695111

>people think there's anything impressive ('genius') about systematising oppression and lies

maybe the thread would have been better as diogenes vs. socrates i dunno

as then it's both about two guys who we only have second hand info on

>> No.1695122

>>1695111
Silly, yes, but with a strange dirty wisdom that transcends the arrogant sophisms of the establishment. Oi oi!

>> No.1695127

>>1695111

platonic forms aren't the fucking silliest thing you've ever heard?!

>> No.1695129

We live in a platonic state

>> No.1695142

All we would need is a philosopher king and LA to sink

>> No.1695182

>>1695127
>silliest
Have you ever read about Pyrroh, Descartes, Hegel or any other idealist?

>> No.1695189

>>1695182
>fucking silliest thing you've ever heard?!
>Pyrroh, Descartes, Hegel or any other idealist?

hmmm sounds about right

>> No.1695190

>>1693512
How is Socrates not the best, most effective troll in antiquity? He was basically told by the Oracle to dedicate his life to it and in the end it's what killed him.

>> No.1695193

I agree. Diogenes knows the score.

>> No.1695198

If I wasn't Alexander the Great I would want to be Diogenes.

>> No.1695201

Correct me if I'm wrong, but do we actually have ANY writings by Diogenes? I don't think we do. So what exactly is the basis for your claim, other than that you like the idea of any philosophical position calling itself "cynicism"?

>> No.1695221

>>1695198
You're not Alexander.

>> No.1695233

don´t mind me, just feeding the troll.

>> No.1695264

>>1695190

well Diogenes beef was mostly with Plato's interpretation of Socrates, so you could argue Diogenes the troll is the rightful heir of Socrates the troll

>> No.1695266

Does anyone actually know of any decent books about Diogenes?