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peregrination

>> No.1693401

inb4 "pretentious"

>> No.1693405

>>1693401

post-tentious

>> No.1693407

Preambulate

>> No.1693411

imbroglio

>> No.1693416

newfag

>> No.1693417

perspicacious.

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>>1693405
holy shit

I lmaod

>> No.1693422

>>1693420
hey good job ruining the composition of the piece with a shitty meme you faggot. fuck you

>> No.1693424

>>1693422

That's a sentence, not a word

>> No.1693426

Post-ironic transcendentalism

>> No.1693431

Gem, as in, "I found this part of the book to be a real gem." Only extremely, extremely pretentious people use that word.

>> No.1693433

>>1693431

Oh fuck off do they.

>> No.1693436

Girls who use the word "luscious" or "luxurious" are pretentious cunts.

>> No.1693437

>>1693431
>>1693417
>>1693411

WTF? They're all perfectly normal words amongst educated adults.

>>1693407

Is that even a word, or was it a typo for perambulate?

My vote for pretentious word: deconstruction. You can get fucking deconstructed JEANS these days, fuck's sake I rage yar.

>> No.1693448

wohlfeil (german)
in english: hackneyed

>> No.1693450

>>1693436

What if they're talking about luxurious things, like a hotel or a mink coat, you fucking retard?

captcha: chavatic gregoire. Is "chavatic" a word in ANY language?

>> No.1693457

>>1693448

Hackneyed is a brilliant word - how would we talk about Dan Brown without it?

ITT: people who have limited vocabularies and hate others who don't use the words "Like, know what I mean" in every sentence.

>> No.1693464

/tripfags on lit/?

>> No.1693466

embodiment
jejune
pernicious

>> No.1693467

hipster
ergo

kitten

>> No.1693475

Azure, cerulean etc

unless you're a potter ot something

>> No.1693481

do you use "et cetera pp." in spoken english?

>> No.1693483
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1693483

>>1693466

Nick Cave would like a word with you:

He said everything is messed up around here, everything is banal and jejune
There is a planetary conspiracy against the likes of you and me in this idiot constituency of the moon
Well, he knew exactly who to blame
And we call upon the author to explain

(Doop doop doop doop dooop)

(and pernicious is actually a pretty common and descriptive word).

>> No.1693485

>>1693481

I usually use a colloquial substitution along the lines of 'shit like dat' and find it suits my needs.

>> No.1693492

eventide
morn
verily :D

Things like that in juvenile poetry

>> No.1693495

>>1693475
im a harry potter

>> No.1693502

>>1693483
I heard jejune in some of Allen's comedies.

>pernicious is actually a pretty common and descriptive word
Yet pretentious. I never heard that in everyday speech.

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1693514

>>1693485

>> No.1693522

>>1693502

Perhaps because you hang out with young people, americans, retards or a combination of the three.

and you obviously don't know anyone with pernicious anaemia, for example - it's a common medical term

>> No.1693531

>>1693522

>americans
>retards

Tautology everywhere.

>> No.1693841

Metric, in any context, in the united states.

>> No.1693845

"Epistemology"

I hate hearing that word if only because the people who I hear say the word IRL are irritating.

>> No.1693847

Inchoate
Adumbration

'Tertiary symbolism on Justinian erotica?'

>> No.1693866

topoi

>> No.1693867

tatterdemalion.

beat that one

>> No.1693931

Defenestration

double rage because there is a wikipedia article on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestration

>> No.1693935

Hypostatization.

>> No.1693943

incarnadine

>> No.1693946

The Hoi Polloi.

Yes, that double definite article was on purpose.

>> No.1693957

synecdoche

>> No.1693958

apropos
when used in place of appropriate

fallacy
when people say "that is a fallacy" or use 'logical fallacy' in a discussion. Bloody talk to the person. SHOW them what's wrong if you disagree. Conversation is not a fucking philosophy contest.

>> No.1693985

>>1693457
Yes, this, thank you.

>> No.1693988

>>1693931
It's a pointless word in most situations, but it's interesting that it even exists.

Also, there is this faggot at my school who always uses that word.

>> No.1693996

>>1693988
Go to bed Atbin

>> No.1693997

>>1693988
I only know about this word because my Latin teacher gave us a 20min speech in class about it.

I am dreaming of using it correctly incontext in a major story and not having it be out of place at all.

>> No.1694005

>>1693996
What? I'm not your faggot friend.

>> No.1694010

>>1693997
Ha, I also learned it because of my knowledge of Latin.

As previously stated, it serves no purpose though it's interesting. As hard as I try, I can't think of a situation in which its use would be warranted.

>> No.1694011

neophyte

My friend used that word on like 3 essays the same semester. I loled every time I read it.

>> No.1694015

>>1694005
I'll try again:
John, Natalya, Sorob, Ata, or Jew

>> No.1694020

>>1693931

Defenestration isn't pretentious - it's a specific word describing executing someone by throwing them out of a window. It's no more pretentious than "lethal injection" or "firing squad"

Fuck this board gets stupider every day.

>> No.1694022

per se

such a stupid word used by stupid people.

>> No.1694028

>>1694020
I guess this thread is more about the irritation we experience when people use these words. Defenestration is a perfectly cromulent word, but it's the yahoos that use it with a little smirk on their face cause they think they're smart.

tl;dr
it's the people who use these words who are pretentious, not the words themselves

>> No.1694035

>>1694028
well, I think that was pretty obvious that a word cannot be pretentious by itself.

>> No.1694037

>>1694028
>simpsons reference
leave

>> No.1694038

>>1694022
This, or better yet, "per say".

>> No.1694040

>>1694035
I disagree, I think that a word can be pretentious by itself. Specifically, the word 'pretentious'.

>> No.1694043

Verbose

>> No.1694044

>>1694037
Ahagnar continues to have worst opinions

>> No.1694048

>>1694011
I lol'd. I did that with the word 'egregious'. My English teacher started putting 'lol' in the margin when he realised what I was doing.

egregious (unless it's in the context of human rights abuses or something similar)

>> No.1694051

>>1694048
>>1694043

Jesus, this gets worse. Does everyone on /lit/ have a 4,000 word vocabulary to the extent that they get a rage-on when they hear someone use a polysyllabic word?

>> No.1694052

>>1694040
'pretentious' isn't pretentious. You should be able to act in a pretentious way to be pretentious, and a word is not a living thing, therefore (lol I love this word, it's so pretentious) it's impossible for a word to act in a pretentious way.

>> No.1694056

>>1694044
I know, right? Fucking idiot

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1694058

Hey /lit/. Just watch an Ian Anderson interview and you'll find a lot of long, pretentious words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsMYOO_lZeo

>> No.1694059

>>1694052
I am fairly confident that the word pretentious is, in fact, pretentious. It seems pretty obvious to me really, not sure why you disagree.

>> No.1694062

>>1694059
Words =/= concepts

>> No.1694063

>>1694051
polysyllabic? I don't know what this means but it's so rpetentious lol

>> No.1694065

>>1694051
It's >>1694048 here. I know what the word means (obviously, I was using it). It's just unnecessary or overtop a lot of the time, that's all.

>> No.1694066

>>1694028

I'd say that words can be pretentious in themselves, but it's almost always when people use words from other languages, often inappropriately.

Any usage of French by an English speaker gets my pretentious-meter running. Bete Noir, eminence gris, serviette, these are all the hallmark of the pretentious.

And apropos, that grinds my gears. SAY REGARDING, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

>> No.1694067

>>1694062
So are you saying the word pretentious is not itself?

That doesn't make any sense and contravenes basic logic. What is the word 'pretentious' such that it is not itself?

>> No.1694068

"Genius" has always struck me as a might pretentious.

>> No.1694069

>>1694015
No, no, no, no, no

>> No.1694071

>>1694068

When it's applied to a soccer player or Bono it certainly is.

>> No.1694072

>>1694059
adjectives don't normally describe themselves. Slippery isn't really a slippery word, is it? And surely we can all agree that the word "stinky" doesn't give off foul odors?

>> No.1694073

>>1694059
'pretentious' is a word, being pretentious is its reference. A word is not its reference.

>> No.1694075

>>1694022
It's not a stupid phrase; people just use it incorrectly.

>> No.1694076

>>1694072
No, but the word slippery is the word slippery, in the same sense in which a rock is a rock.

>> No.1694077

>>1694067
Try to define pretentious without any form of linguistics

>> No.1694080

lackadaisical

>> No.1694083

>>1694075

But people could just say "as such". Using foreign phrases just to make yourself seem cleverer is in my opinion the definition of pretension

>> No.1694085

>>1694077
Without reference to its semantic content, I can say that the word 'pretentious' is indubitably the word 'pretentious'.

>> No.1694087

>>1694080

WHAT? Do you even know what pretensious means?

>> No.1694088

>>1694087
>doesn't know what a contributor is anymore
Oh, /lit/..

>> No.1694090

/lit/

>> No.1694092

>>1694076
Yes, "rock" describes a rock. But the word itself isn't rocky. Words don't normally describe themselves literally, like pretentious. Let's get out a dictionary and take a look:

>Adjective: Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed

Now, how is the word "pretentious" itself trying to impress people?

Is there any actual linguistics expert who can finish off this discussion?

>> No.1694094

>>1694076
but the word 'rock' is a word, not a rock.
Imagine that you buy a pizza and they give you a paper with "pizza" written on it.

>> No.1694096

>>1694085
Then what is the word pretentious, beyond itself? Can it be contained in one solitary definition?

>> No.1694098

ostensibly

>> No.1694099

>>1694090
lol'd

>> No.1694100

>>1694092
I say again: the word 'rock' is different from a rock. But a rock is a rock and the word 'rock' is the word 'rock'. In just the same way, the word 'pretentious' is the word 'pretentious'.

>>1694094
But surely you agree that a slice of pizza is a slice of pizza?

>> No.1694101

>>1694096

see >>1694092

>> No.1694102

>>1694098
Wittgenstein much? lol

>> No.1694103

>>1694083
You see, you are wrong.
1. "Per se" does not mean "as such"; it means "in and of itself".
2. That is not the definition of pretension. Look it up, faggot,

>> No.1694105

>>1694100
That's a tautology, I cannot disagree.

>> No.1694108

>>1694101
He said what I was leading up to.

>> No.1694110

>>1694105
I'm glad you acknowledge my correctness.

>> No.1694111

>>1694098
>>1694080
>>1694063
>>1694048
>>1694011
>>1693957
>>1693841
>>1693845
>>1693847


I hate you all. Go get a Reader's Digest "Improve your word power" collection, and don't come back until you can speak fucking English.

And SYNECHDOCHE is not pretentious, it's technical. If synechdoche is pretentious, then so is 'gasket' - it describes a particular thing. Try describing the phrase "all hands on deck" without the word synechdoche, and all you'll have is a load of ill-educated bullshit.

Fuck this - you're all making me rage with your idiocy, and the fucking LIBERTIES you are taking with my beautiful language. I truly loathe you today /lit/ I really do. I'm going to bed, you cunts.

>> No.1694113

post-tentious is still the best word in this thread

it's post-modern pretension

>> No.1694116

>>1694111
This

>> No.1694117

Verbose

>> No.1694119

>>1694111
instead of improving your vocabulary, you should learn to spell the words you are so fired up over

>> No.1694121

>>1694119
lololol just noticed he spelled 'synecdoche' wrong.

>> No.1694123

Existential

>> No.1694127

>>1693437
Perspicacious is not a perfectly normal word.
The perfectly normal, colloquial word for perspicacious would be "sharp," "keen," "quick," or "insightful," depending on contexts.
If you know someone who uses the word perspicacious on a conversational basis, stop hanging out with them.
No person is embiggened with the cromulence to casually use perspicacious.

>> No.1694133

>>1694110
lol I was just trying to state your stupidity, but I overrated you.

>>1694111
Go fuck yourself. You didn't even get what the thread was about and yet you're here with your handful of butthurt trying to look like an educated gentleman while the only thing you're really doing is show everybody how sad and boring is your faggy existence raging about this kind of stupidities.

>> No.1694136

This thread is full of faggotry, but there is one word in the English language---which I adore greatly---that is indubitably pretentious if only because it is full of double negatives and general derps.

Antidisestablishmentarianism

>> No.1694141

>>1694123
A good one. I rage whenever I hear it out of a philosophical context.

>> No.1694143

>>1694133
>lol I was just trying to state your stupidity, but I overrated you.

hahah

you don't even know how much that whole argument amused me. but then i am easily pleased.

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>>1694143

>> No.1694160

NEW ONE PIECE OPENING: FIGHT TOGETHER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYCEGneLbEY

IN 1080p

>> No.1694162

One Piece sucks.

>> No.1694164

>>1694062
THERE ISN'T A SINGLE THING THAT ISN'T A WORD, FAGGOT. EVERYTHING IS A WORD. SO STFU

>> No.1694165

>>1694164
But there are demonstrably things for which there are no words.

>> No.1694168

Brownbear

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1694172

>>1694164

>> No.1694175

>>1694164
Then, did the world exist before humans invented their language...?

>> No.1694179

>>1694165
Do you mean "demonstrable things?"

>> No.1694180

>>1694175
Bishop Berkeley was a faggot.

>> No.1694183

>>1694179
No, I meant demonstrably: we can demonstrate that there are things for which there is no sufficient word.

>> No.1694187

>>1694183
i.e. ineffable things have no words ascribable to them

>> No.1694188

>>1694180
All empiricists are... well, maybe except Hume. But most of them are.

>> No.1694197

>>1694183
Ah. I was just questioning your use of the adverbial form of 'demonstrate'

>> No.1694203

>>1694187
tautology, tautology everywhere

>> No.1694205

>>1694188
modern science is basically empiricist. Calling you out on being an idiot.

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1694208

"Gifted," when used in the context of describing tailored curricula for children or adolescents.

>> No.1694212

>>1694187
then go and demonstrate. otherwise, your word is as convincing as mine.

>> No.1694216

>>1694208
Fucking this

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1694224

Precipitance.

>> No.1694246

>>1694208

you mean like, when they're said to be 'gifted' at what is basically just memorising prescripted bullshit to pass a test?

>> No.1694249

Commoners

>> No.1694258

My native language isn't English, although I'm fluent in it. But since it has the same root as my native one, sometimes there are common words in them that translated sound obnoxiously pretentious in English. Frequently I can't set them apart, feels like I'm being an asshole by saying certain things ):

>> No.1694264

In my experience 'pretentious' is just a word used by those with an anti-intellectual slant in their nature to short-circuit the need to engage on some level with that which is different, unusual, innovative, or unguided by warped principles of utility.

>> No.1694269

>>1694264

That entire sentence is your contribution to the topic, I take it.

>> No.1694271

>>1694246
>>1694208

Gifted child here.

The tests have nothing to do with memorization. They're about logic and abstraction and generally things that can't be learned.

>> No.1694273

Im going to tackle this from a different angle and submit to you the words "Delightful" and "Charming" used by extremely pretentious upper-class women.

>> No.1694280

>>1694271
"Gifted" child here.

The tests have nothing to do with it. The fact that the word "gifted" is used to describe intelligent children makes me want the skin of whoever thought of that.

>> No.1694288

OP here.. I'm actually fine with the word peregrination, it's not that pretentious

>> No.1694292

Any "buzzword"

i.e. powernap, green, proactive, on the same page, face time

>> No.1694293

>>1694280
wear the skin of*

>> No.1694301

I hate when "literature" is used in reference to high school reading lists and young adult fantasy novels.

>> No.1694302

Did anyone say "esoteric" yet?if not.esoteric.

>> No.1694310

>>1694292

> implying you don't like my revolutionary new paradigm combining best-of-breed synergistic solutions for B2B and B2C with agile best practices

>> No.1694313

metaphysics

>> No.1694319

>>1694164
no

>> No.1694322

eclectic
eco-energetic
synergy

>> No.1694332

>>1694310
lol
all my rage

>> No.1694623

A few of my AP students:

INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY INTELLECTUALS IN SOCIETY

>> No.1694626

>>1694623
You're an AP teacher? What subject?

>> No.1694655

Methodology.
It's over used and people really should just say 'method' most of the time.

>> No.1694656

"peripatetic"

...looking at you DFW

>> No.1694675

>>1694626
AP US history and AP European history.

>> No.1694678

esoteric

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1694693

>>1694675
How accurate is this?

>> No.1694716

Elitist.

>> No.1694720

>>1694072
"Adjectival".

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1694726

quite

You see, "quite" is like the 19th century equivalent of "really" or "very." It doesn't quite add anything to what you're saying, and you can get away with peppering it quite often into your sentences. People tend to believe that the word can quite improve the authority of your voice, but the only people who fall for this have quite the minuscule IQ.

Example:
>"I thought Sucker Punch was a cerebral film."
No, you fucking cock stain, you sound like a god damn idiot.
>"I thought Sucker Punch was quite a cerebral film."
Hey, this guy clearly knows what he's talking about. Let's all listen to what he has to say.

>> No.1694728

mamilapinatapai

>> No.1694732
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1694732

latter or nostalgic.

>> No.1694744

>>1694728
That isn't a word.

>> No.1694746

irregardless

>> No.1694767

elliptical

>> No.1694770

>>1694264

whoa whoa whoa, wait a second

so you're calling me a fag?

>> No.1694775

ostentatious, fuck the rest.

>> No.1694781

Pedantic.

I love it

>> No.1694783

sontimeter

>> No.1694792

fundamentally

>> No.1694798

grandiloquent

your move, shitbags

>> No.1694807

Hipster.

Like...fuck am I tired of hearing that word. It's lost all semantic value.

>> No.1694808

essentially

any time i take a philosophy, critical theory etc type of class i hear this word all the time

>> No.1694812

paradigm

>> No.1694824

>>1694808

Tell me about it. 'Essentially' and 'basically' are the intellectual 'um, like'.

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1694828

>>1693400

Concomitant, and prestidigitation.

>> No.1694834

>>1694726

It might most often be used as filler, but it's not without any meaning.

Compare:
"She was sort of awkward."
"She was awkward."
"She was quite awkward."

If you communicated those three ideas to different listeners and then asked them, "Based on the information you've been given, how awkward was Sue, on a scale of 1-10?" I'd bet money on the third one getting the higher numbers.

>> No.1694852

socioeconomic

>> No.1694853

I didn't see esoteric till halfway through this thread. But someone needed to say
deign

>> No.1694855

>>1694852
This is a word that is necessary to use in certain context.

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sesquipedalian

>> No.1694877

I think English owes much to its historical love for pretentious words. It's almost fascinating how people so randomly speak of Zeitgeist, catharsis etc.. when it comes to very trite things. In a way that's a good thing I guess. I live in France and although pretension is a bit of a savoir-faire here, people usually smirk when they hear a foreign, high-faluting word or concept. But maybe that's just another degree of pretension.

>> No.1694902

Post-9/11

>> No.1694925

Sheeple

>> No.1694927

Deep & Edgy

>> No.1694937

'Pretentious'

I cite 4chan's misuse of the word as evidence.

>> No.1695086

Avant-Garde
Visionary
Misunderstood (as in ''misunderstood genius'', which makes my blood boil)

On a very similar note, I hate these artists who do weird-ass shit and label it as ''vanguardist''. It seems that anyone can grab a piece of paper and draw a circle, later claiming that the circle represents an ''existential reflection on loneliness'' and become a ''talented artist whose genius is not understood by the common man''.

You're not a visionaire, you're not a genius, you ain't selling your art not because other people don't understand it, but because you suck. You just draw a circle.

>> No.1695091

>implying