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/LIT/, IT'S TIME WE MADE TWO CHARTS

SINCE THE CREATION OF /LIT/ I HAVE SEEN COUNTLESS THREADS ASKING FOR THE FOLLOWING:
I READ 1984 AND/OR BRAVE NEW WORLD AND BEST BOOK EVER, GIVE ME MORE DYSTOPIA, UTOPIA ETC.
OR
I READ A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES AND/OR CATCH-22 AND FUNNIEST BOOK EVER, GIVE ME MORE FUNNY BOOKS


IN THIS THREAD WE'RE GOING TO POST BOOKS THAT FALL UNDER THESE CATEGORIES THAT WOULD SERVE AS ANSWERS SO SUCH THREADS, AND CREATE CHARTS FOR THEM. THEN WHEN THEY ASK, JUST COPY-PASTE TO THE /LIT/ WIKI, NO FURTHER ACTION REQUIRED.

SO FOR UTOPIA/DYSTOPIA ETC. THAT'S COME TO MIND RIGHT NOW FOR ME:
BRAVE NEW WORLD
1984
WE
UTOPIA
THE GIVER (SERIES?)

COMEDIES:
THE GOOD SOLDIER SVEJK
DON QUIXOTE
CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES (HAVEN'T READ IT THOUGH)
CATCH-22

FOR THOSE UNAWARE, THIS IS OUR WIKI FOR RECOMMENDED READING:
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

>> No.1690565

Utopia:
The Island, by Huxley.

Dystopia:
Dhalgren, by Delaney.

>> No.1690572

>>1690565
THANK YOU FOR THE CONTRIBUTION

REMEMBER, MAKE SURE IT'S SOMETHING YOU'D PERSONALLY RECOMMEND OR THINK THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON WHO GETS OFF ON THIS SHIT WOULD ENJOY IT.

>> No.1690575

"utopia": Walden 2 by BF Skinner (although to me it's dystopian)

Dystopia: Naked Lunch by W.S. Burroughs

>> No.1690579

>>1690572
Stop yelling, we're right here.
For fuck's sake...

>> No.1690585

>>1690579
YOU AREN'T YET ACQUAINTED WITH CAPSGUY?

>> No.1690591

>>1690585
I wasn't aware someone had a broken caps lock as their "thing," no.

>> No.1690611

UP YOURS CAPSGUY

/LIT/ IS DYING AND NEEDS EVERY LAST INCH OF REDUNDANT THREAD IF WE HOPE TO LAST THROUGH ANOTHER YEAR

THE FUCKERS
ARE JUST
GONNA
HAVE
TO
POST

>> No.1690620

UTOPIA/DYSTOPIA:

Looking Backward - Edward Bellamy
The Iron Heel - Jack London
The Time Machine - Wells
Fahrenheit 451 - Bradbury
Lord of the Flies - Golding
The Handmaid's Tale - Atwood

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1690636

More of an anti-utopia than a dystopia

>> No.1690646

Comedy:

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Heart of a Dog
The Third Policeman
Right Ho, Jeeves
Lucky Jim

>> No.1690653

>>1690611
EVEN THOUGH IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BUSIER THAN BEFORE?

>> No.1690657

The Dispossessed must be included for dystopian/utopian fiction.

>> No.1690664

Haven't been on /lit/ in a while, it's good to see you're still here.
Comedy:
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Breakfast of Champions
Gargantua and Pantagruel

>> No.1690665

i wouldn't want to post good books for lit. you wouldn't undestand them anyway. germans read gras, persians read shahani-shark and murrkans have their 'confederacy of dunces'. if you made a list llike that on llit it would be dominated by brit comedy of manners, by bllack humor and by absurdism because this site is mostlly english.
if we were to make a representative list we'd have to venture out of our cozy murrkan highschool board to other fora on the side of the world. the other funny book llists are easily googlable so we do not need that.

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>>1690665
wut

>> No.1690700

>>1690665
BUT THE GOOD SOLDIER SVEJK WAS OUTRAGEOUSLY FUNNY EVEN THOUGH IT'S A CZECH WORK

ADDING COMEDY:
THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST - WILDE

>> No.1690714

The Trial, by Franz Kafka.

It's great, because it can be read both as a Dystopia AND Utopia.

>> No.1690729

>>1690700
Each time you post you kill something deep down inside of me. You're shouting. Shouting is obnoxious. Don't shout.

>> No.1690742

>>1690653
CITATION NEEDED MOTHERFUCKERRRRRRRR

but yeah maybe. You still in Japan broski? Or is this old dead news and you're somewheres in Amerika

>> No.1690747

>>1690742
IN OLD DAYS, WHEN PAGE WAS STILL 0-10, THREADS WOULD LAST MORE THAN ONE DAY ON AVERAGE, NOW IT'S UP TO 15 SOME THREADS ARE GONE WITHIN A DAY OR TWO.

I'VE BEEN IN AUSTRALIA FOR 2 MONTH NOW, BACK TO NORMAL LIFE. BUT IT WILL BE BIGGER AND BETTER THIS NOVEMBER WHEN I GO BACK FOR ANOTHER 3 MONTHS

>> No.1690765

There are a plenty of big Russian U-/Dis-topias such as Platonov's "The Foundation Pit" and "Chevengur", Olesha's "Envy" and Zamyatin's "We".
Unlike "Happy New World" our artsy anachronism of a protagonist usually confronts a society of utilitarian automatons rather than that of hedonist ones and each of them has rock-hard and valid points. It's not just some "thinking" patronising well-read leader figure as in F451 or BNW, all are reasonable just none will get, or be impressed by, his appeals to classical authority.
>Don Quixote
>Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
great books but if that's a dystopia, so is every single other work of art. We'd have to find a definition

>> No.1690767

When i read it,its like hes yelling in my head. and i cant stop reading it like that

>> No.1690771

>>1690767
If he erased the spaces and punctuation it might still resembled a Roman orator but as it is I have no choice but to ignore his posts

>> No.1690776

>>1690767
You get used to it - I just read it as CAPSGUY now.

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>> No.1690783

>>1690776
because you ARE the capsguy, stupid.

>> No.1690800

>>1690565

I second Dhalgren. Very underrated in the sci-fi world.

>> No.1690824

Is A Clockwork Orange technically dystopian? If so, then that should certainly go in there.

>> No.1690832

foreign books are idiotic.

dytopian: Atlas Shrugged.

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>>1690832
>foreign books
>idiotic
>chooses ayn rand

>> No.1690839

JUST TO REITERATE, THERE ARE TWO LISTS

ONE FOR DYSTOPIA, UTOPIA ETC.

ONE FOR WORKS THAT ARE FUNNY.

>> No.1690845

The Pickwick Papers by Dickens

>> No.1690848

funny:
white teeth - zadie smith
a handful of dust - evenly waugh

>> No.1690869

I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS (WILL FINISH MID-SEMESTERS BY THEN) AND THEN GATHER THE RESULTS AND POST A CURRENT VERSION FOR BOTH LISTS, ASKING FOR FINAL ADDITIONS/OMISSIONS PRIOR TO CREATING THE ACTUAL CHARTS. AFTER THAT, I'LL UPLOAD THEM AND YOU GUYS CAN ADD MORE TO THEM WHENEVER YOU WANT.

>> No.1690970

BAMP

>> No.1690979

Dystopia:

Fiskadoro, Denis Johnson
In the Country of Last Things, Paul Auster
The Road, Cormac McCarthy
The Time Machine, HG Wells
The Book of Dave, Will Self
The Handmaid's Tale, Margaret Atwood
If This Goes On, Robert E Heinlein
The Man in the High Castle, Philip K Dick (most of Kindred's works are pretty dystopic on one level or another)
Lord of the Flies, William Golding
Fahrenheit 451, Ray Bradbury

Just an off-the-top-of-my-head list, trying to avoid the obvious ones like Orwell and Huxley

>> No.1690980

>>1690848

>evenly waugh

Related to Enoby Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way?

>> No.1690985

The Man Who Was Thursday - G.K. Chesterton should be added to the 'funny' list.

I'm actually looking forward to the funny list, since everything I ever see mentioned as being funny (A Confederacy of Dunces, Catch-22, The Importance of being Earnest, various Vonnegut) I've already read. :(

I'll try and keep this alive too.

>> No.1690986

Bukowski is pretty funny. Women might be his funniest. onald Barthelme is also pretty funny, though I've only read his short story collection, Come Back Dr. Caligari

>> No.1690989

Comedy:

Even Cowgirls Get the Blues - Tom Robbins
Yoga for People Who Can't be Bothered to Do It - Geoff Dyer
Amarillo Slim in a World Full of Fat People - Amarillo Slim
Renegade - Mark E Smith
The Domino Men - Jonathon Barnes
The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling - Henry Fielding
Skin Tight - Karl Hiaasen
Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency - Douglas Adams
Red Dirt Marijuana and Other Tastes - Terry Southern
Pecked to Death by Ducks - Tim Cahill
Making Cocoa for Kingsley Amis - Wendy Cope
Porterhouse Blue - Tom Sharpe
Making History - Stephen Fry

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1690995

suprised no one's mentioned Catcher yet. it's as funny as it is depressing.

>> No.1690997

>>1690989
WILL NEED CONFIRMATION ON MOST OF THESE.

>> No.1691005

>>1690997

You won't get it - /lit/ only reads the most obvious shit.

See, >>1690995

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>>1690980

lol

>evenly

lolhard

>> No.1691009

>>1691005
BECAUSE YOU'RE A GOOD ANON, I TRUST YOU.

>> No.1691017

>>1691009

Trust me? Very poor choice, 009. I'm not expecting you to just accept that all those books are teh funz, just saying that you probably won't get confirmation - i've never seen Robbins mentioned on the board, for example, even though he was massive 10 years ago.

/lit/ basically deals in obvious "classics", and the most recent current mass-media phenomena. Basically it's all Dostoevsky, Salinger or Palahniuk. And I ain't hating, just saying (/lit/s constituency is pretty young - they haven't read Salinger and Tolstoy yet and that's cool, but it gets a bit grating).

>> No.1691019

White Noise by Don DeLillo has some genuinely funny moments in it. I don't know if it's a comic novel, but it's laugh out loud hilarious from timeto time.

>> No.1691031

>>1691017
BUT TOLSTOY IS ALWAYS BROUGHT UP (ONLY WAR AND PEACE AND SOMETIMES MASTER AND MAN OR THE DEATH OF IVAN ILYCH) THOUGH.

I DO WISH /LIT/ READ MORE, I TEND TO COMPLAIN MORE THAN I SHOULD ABOUT IT, MAKES ME SEEM LIKE A WHINY FAGGOT.

>> No.1691050

i recently ordered the good soldier svejk. i hear good things.

i would like to add puckoon as a really funny book.

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>>1691031
>>1691031

>BUT TOLSTOY IS ALWAYS BROUGHT UP

That's kind of what I was saying. Tolstoy may or may not have been a great writer, but the point is that nearly everything that can be said about his work has been said, particularly anything that can be discussed in a 4chan forum

Anon: TOSLTOY is teh awesumz
Anon: No, he is faggot suxxor, fgt
Anon: War and Peace is the best buk eva
Tripfag: I have a big penis
Anon: Tripfags are cancer
Tripfag: You need us and love us and we are witty
Me: self-harm, self-harm, self-harm

But yeah, dissing /lit/s lack of reading width does make me sound like a whiny faggot, so I'll shut up.

A Good Man in Africa by William Boyd is pretty funny and satirical,

Don Quijote is usually held up as a comic novel - didn't make me laugh, but what the fuck do I know?

The Naked Jape, by Jimmy Carr and Lucy Greeves. It's a book about comedy, which is also a joke book. It's actually pretty rocking, and cleverer than I expected.

>> No.1691068

bump

>> No.1691072

>>1691052
I FOUND IT INAPPROPRIATE AND IRRELEVANT TO BEGIN DISCUSSIONS OF TOLSTOY IN THIS THREAD, THAT'S WHY I JUST BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY DISCUSSED HERE.

I'M OFF TO BED, FEEL FREE TO KEEP CONTRIBUTING. HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND TOO!

>> No.1691075

David Lodge - Nice Work

>> No.1691115
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1691115

No love for Oryx & Crake?
I thought it was a great dystopian/post-apocalyptic novel.

>> No.1691121

UTOPIAN/DYSTOPIAN:

"One" by David Karp
>straight-forwardly dystopian; 1984-esque

"Woman on the Edge of Time" by Marge Piercy
>feminist utopian sci-fi kinda thing

"A Clockwork Orange" by Anthony Burgess
>I would include this within the genre. Obsesses over relationship between state and individual, like lots of utopian/dystopian novels.

>> No.1691223

Dystopian:
The Wanting Seed - Burgess

>> No.1691251

I'm surprised no on in here found A Tale of Two Cities. When I wasn't empathizing with the poverty and cruelty the aristocrats inflicted upon the destitute of the times, Dickens was cracking me up with his cynical mockery of them. It's also dystopian one could say.

>> No.1691252

>>1690560
mentioned**

>> No.1691284

OF TOPIC:
did we ever make poetry charts??
Forgive me for /r/ing here if we did yet I have not seen them.

>> No.1691295

>>1690560
In my opinion, I feel we should put "Slaughterhouse Five" in comedy. It has some funny parts in a way.

>> No.1691313

Comedy: The Trial - Kafka, Invitation to a Beheading/ Lolita - Nabokov, Candide - Voltaire, In Persuasion Nation - George Saunders, Cat's Cradle - Vonnegut

Dystopia: The Trial/The Castle - Kafka, Invitation to a Beheading/Bend Sinister - Nabokov, A Scanner Darkly - PKD

>> No.1691332

>>1691295
Seconding this.

>> No.1692116

BEAUTIFUL /LIT/, ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. YOU ARE DOING WELL.

>> No.1692136

Thanks Capsguy for giving us the only quality thread on /lit/

>> No.1692164

>>1692116
>>1692136
samefag
dropping booknames in no-true-scotsman genre isn't my definition of a very good thread.

>> No.1692171

>>1692164
I DIDN'T SAMEFAG THOSE TWO POSTS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SUCH A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT NEXT TIME, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU CAN PROVE IT.

>> No.1692176

I only come to /lit/ for capsguy, being that he's the only person here who reads books.

>> No.1692290

>>1692176
JUST FINISHED PETERSBURG, WILL READ A STORY OR TWO BY POE AND THE MAN WHO WAS THURSDAY. THEN I WILL FINALLY READ THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV. I AM EXCITED.

>> No.1692317

Comedy:
The Dice Man

>> No.1692576

>>1692317
EXCELLENT.

ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO WORKS IN SERIES AND SUCH, I'LL ONLY INCLUDE THE FIRST (LIKE THE DICE MAN, CATCH-22 ETC.) AS THEY ARE USUALLY BY FAR THE BEST ANYWAYS.

>> No.1692641

Utopia:
The History of Rasselas by Samuel Johnson
Erewhon by Samuel Butler

Comedy:
The Return of Don Quixote by G.K. Chesterton
Nicholas Nickleby by Charles Dickens

>> No.1692655

SORRY GUYS I CAN"T BE BOTHERED TO READ FICTION IM TOO BUSY READING THINGS THAT ACTUALLY MATTER AND ARE INFORMATIVE.

GOOD LUCK ENJOYING YOUR TRIVIAL ENTERTAINMENT

>> No.1692684

Funny: M*A*S*H*, dark humor and a hundred times better than that shitty TV show

>> No.1692695

comedy: Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal

>> No.1692696

ERRRRRRR

incorrect

>> No.1692699

Can someone please critique, edit, etc.  this?  I prefer being with you in the night time because the mornings are always sweet. I walk or drive you home, we hug, kiss and say our goodbyes. I go back to my house, and just like they do in the movies: I rest my back on the door and close my eyes- taking you in one last time. I fall into the sheets, they smell like you. I smell like you. I suffocate myself with your pillow and fall asleep. Only to wake up to a room lit with the light of a dying sunset. I wake up wondering what you're doing. Wishing you hadn't left that morning. I become restless and eventually scramble into the hallway, grab a towel and hop in the shower. Love,Chazz.

I'm on an iPad, so I can't make my own thread.

>> No.1692709

>>1692699
GO AWAY!

>> No.1692746

I've got a suggestion to the dystopian list: Kallocain by Karin Boye.

>> No.1692750

>>1692171

How could anyone possibly prove it, you fucking faggot?

>> No.1692753

Comedy:

Molloy and Waiting for Godot, Beckett
Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentlemen, Lawrence Sterne (probably in the thread already, if it's not then /lit/ should be fucking ashamed of itself)

>> No.1692881

>>1692750
SO YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT YOU YOURSELF DIDN'T KNOW BUT WAS JUST TRYING TO STIR SHIT?

NICE.

>> No.1694317

BETTER BUMP

WILL START THESE CHARTS TOMORROW

>> No.1694326

>>1692881
THIS IS 4CHAN, MAN. PEOPLE ARE EITHER WANTING TO STIR OR SLAP SOMEONE ELSE'S SHIT.

FOOLS AND KNAVES.

>> No.1695007

I WILL BE GOING THIS IN PAINT AND I'M NOT GOOD AT THIS, SO IF NO ONE ELSE DOES IT AND IT COMES OUT SHIT, DON'T BLAME ME.

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>>1695007
op, don't disappoint us now

>> No.1695009

>>1695008
THANKS FOR YOUR TRUST IN ME.

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1695011

>>1695009
your welcome

>> No.1695020

>OP trying miserably to be put as a sticky

>> No.1695022

>>1695020
WHY WOULD I WANT THIS TO BE A STICKY WHEN THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO ADD TO THE VALUE OF THE STICKY IN PLACE BY PUTTING IN MORE CONTENT TO /LIT/'S WIKI WHICH IS POSTED IN THAT STICKY?

>> No.1695033

>>1695020

He cannot modify the sticky without Brownbear's permission.

>> No.1695038

>>1695036

CAPSGUY ISN'T AN IDENTITY! HE'S AN IDEA! AND AS SUCH SHALL LIVE FOREVER!

>> No.1695043

>>1695038
I AM TRYING TO FORMULATE A WAY TO BE ABLE TO KEEP MY CAPS WITHOUT HAVING TO TYPE ANYTHING IN THE NAME OR EMAIL FIELD. I THOUGHT OF DOUBLE SPACING AFTER THE FIRST WORD, BUT IT READJUSTS IT BACK TO ONE SPACE UPON THE POST GOING THROUGH.

I SHALL NOW THINK OF OTHER INCONSPICUOUS MEANS OF ENSURING THAT I CAN PROVE I AM WHO I AM IF NEED BE.

>> No.1695052

>>1695043
>tripcodes can help verify a user's identity to others
Why do you insist in complicating your life so much?

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>>1695011

>> No.1695153

>>1695147
I SAID I WOULDN'T START UNTIL THE DAY AFTER MY EXAMS. THE DAY AFTER MY EXAMS STARTED 42 MINUTES AGO.

BUT I SHALL SLEEP FIRST.

DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING FANCY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ALTHOUGH I WILL PUT ALL OF MY PAINT SKILLS INTO EFFECT, LIKE USING THEIR LOVELY FONTS.

>> No.1695161

I LIKE DICKS.

>> No.1695171

>>1695052
he said 'INCONSPICUOUS'

tripcodes are not INCONSPICUOUS

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HERE GOES.

>> No.1696159

Could you have picked an uglier cover for Dhalgren, or for that matter, for most of these books? Bleurgh

>> No.1696164

>>1696159
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS, CAPSGUY! (I'm not capsguy, I'm just heightening the drama by yelling)

>> No.1696166

>>1696159
I READ BOOKS ON A FUCKING KINDLE, YOU THINK I CARE FOR COVERS?

>> No.1696173

>>1696166
Oh Mr Fancy with his ebook reader. Good for you. Too bad most of us do care about cover design

>> No.1696188

>>1696173
Disregard this guy, he sucks cocks.

No one REALLY cares about cover design. Cheers on the list capsguy.

>> No.1696292

I'LL GET STARTED ON THE OTHER LIST TOMORROW OR THE DAY AFTER.

>> No.1696302

ALSO, UPLOADED CURRENT VERSION TO THE WIKI.

>> No.1697701

bump for importance