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16895537 No.16895537 [Reply] [Original]

Beethoven is the Ubermensch Nietzsche described.

>> No.16895552

Why?

>> No.16895561

>>16895537
Or was Nietzsche the Ubermensch Beethoven described???

>> No.16895679

>>16895552
The Ubermensch is someone who does not need any guidance from any society but lives entirely by his own code, advancing ever upward, destroying all obstacles through sheer force of will. That is Beethoven. Listen to the Eroica, or the Emperor concerto, or the Hammerklavier, and you hear the relentless struggle of someone against whom seemingly all the imaginable obstacles of life are arrayed against, yet through his own determination he wrestles and always - always - emerges victorious. Beethoven is well known to have been outcast from society for most of his life, not just because of his deafness, but his personal character as well. He did not need them. In fact, they needed him. Think of his latest and greatest works, like the late quartets, including the Grosse Fugue. It was despised when first performed. Spohr called it a confusion of Babel. Yet he did not doubt its' merits for a second. Ultimate self-assurance. Now, it is considered one of the greatest things ever written. Stravinsky said it will be contemporary forever. Beethoven was an Ubermensch.

>> No.16895697

>>16895679
based

>> No.16895707
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16895707

>>16895537
No, that's Stirner.