/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16818746]

What's the minimum preparatory reading I need to do to understand these?

[Anonymous No.16818997]

>>16818746
you can always start without any background as long as you look up some lectures or secondary lit around it. otheriwise as a minimal set i'd advice:
aristotle
descartes
hume

[Anonymous No.16819004]

A life devoted to philosophy.
If you dont have that, you are jsut wasting your time.

[Anonymous No.16819018]

You can just go straight in without any preparatory reading. Most people just struggle because they don't have the patience to actually give enough thought to try and understand whats going on. I guess the only thing is knowing a bit about the context of some of the original German words they are using and how they were used in their times

[Anonymous No.16819023]

>>16818746
Nothing, they both build off the ground

[Anonymous No.16819030]

>>16819023
This. Hegel even states it in his preface although he does respond a bit to some of his contemporaries but even then its not super necessary.

[Anonymous No.16819038]

>>16818746
homer
hesiod
herodotus
thukydides
xenophon
aeschylus
sophocles
euripides
aristophanes
pre-socratics
plato
aristotle
200+

[Anonymous No.16819155]

>>16818746
homer
hesiod
plato(all works)
aristotle(all works)
diogenes laertius
marcus aurelius
seneca
epictetus
plotinus
vergil
the holy bible
augustine
john scotus erigena
anselm
thomas aquinas
abelard
ockham
francis bacon
hobbes
decartes
spinoza
leibniz
john locke
david hume
thomas reid
berkeley

kant

fichte
schelling
schlegel
novalis

hegel

[Anonymous No.16819172]

>>16819155
don't forget all the required history and commentary to read, both before the authors you listed and OP's

[Anonymous No.16819175]

[Anonymous No.16819177]

>>16819155
>*yawn*
>*reads Gregor the Overlander Book 1 for the seventeenth time*

[Anonymous No.16819211]

Hmm oh-oh hah hahaha.
I woke up again hmmm.
It's the cars.
The race cars making vroom in front of the house that I live in!
And the Buses. They make the windows shake.
Oh oops and then I woke up. Hahaha.
Hmm I still feel dizzy hahaha I say 5 hours later. Oh? She asks.
Yeah, I slept too little again. It's the cars.
No, she says. No it's you not the cars.
Uhm... I don't think I want to talk about this?
Uhm... Because technically there's no difference whether it's me or the cars.
I end the phone call then and go into the shower. The shower is turned on by my hands. I stand naked as the shower wets my body. Warm as usual. Well because that's the way I like it!
Potatoes. M

[Anonymous No.16819214]

>>16819155
you can skip around quite a bit and make due with secondary sources, particularly from seneca to decartes, but ignoring the insane barrier of entry this is genuinely a pretty reasonable list

[Anonymous No.16819626]

>>16818746
it's a good starting point, honestly

[Anonymous No.16820019]

Kant was a mentally ill recluse and wrong about nearly everything.
Hegel was a giga genius and probably one of the 5 smartest people who ever lived. Also he's actually not boring to read.

[Anonymous No.16820164]

If you want to prepare for both at the same time read aristotle’s Organon, de anima, and metaphysics. You’ll be fine after that.

Speed run to Kant path: first, second, and sixth chapters of descartes’s meditations, leibniz’s monadology, hume’s enquiry concerning human understanding= about 200 pages+ use rosenberg’s accessing Kant.

Speed to Hegel(don’t do this it’s foolish): the book of genesis and the gospel of John, rousseau’s discourses on the sciences and arts and inequality, then fichte’s the vocation of man. Then very carefully read the preface twice, and go through the rest of the book with findlay’s Analysis and you’ll be fine.

[Anonymous No.16820187]

>>16818746
You should have a general background in the history of philosophy. Otherwise make sure you read the introductions. These texts are difficult even if you’ve read everything written in philosophy before them. So just jump in. If you struggle with a part, refer to other sources.

[Anonymous No.16820210]

>>16820164
Only decent comment in the thread. Also (and this should be obvious) just read the SEP pages for 'Rationalism vs. Empiricsm', 'The Analytic/Synthetic Distinction', and 'Idealism'.

[Anonymous No.16820225]

>>16818997
you should read locke also

[Anonymous No.16820362]

>>16820019
>Kant was a mentally ill recluse
he was a professor and had luncheon with his friends every afternoon, drinking wine and such, and often lectured students until late. the whole town knew him by his daily walks. he was a very social person, famous, even, and still famous to this day. anything but a recluse, he even had a butler.
you are the recluse and you are wrong about everything