light novels

[Anonymous No.16817910]

reject high literature embrace light novels

[Anonymous No.16817924]

>>16817910
But why? What can they offer that simply imagining patrick bateman as an anime reverse trap couldn't?

[Anonymous No.16817972]

>>16817910
Light novels can be high literature

[Anonymous No.16817973]

>>16817924
God's Blessing

[Anonymous No.16817985]

Weebs should be gassed

[Anonymous No.16817993]

>>16817985
don't gas people it's not nice

[Anonymous No.16818005]

>>16817973
Alright. Gimme names of some good ones

[Anonymous No.16818031]

>My Dark Academia Little Sister Wants Me to Critique Her Erotic Manifesto and it's About Having Sex with Me?

[Anonymous No.16818042]

Weebs have such garbage taste, like I’m not even joking. They don’t know what good storytelling is and think cringe ass anime is the peak of entertainment.

[Anonymous No.16818071]

>>16818042
don't judge a book by it's cover

[Anonymous No.16818074]

>>16818005
KonoSuba: God's Blessing on this Wonderful World!

[Anonymous No.16818087]

>>16818042
Why is anime so cringe thought? What's the appeal?

[Anonymous No.16818120]

>>16818087
>Why is anime so cringe thought?
What you say while dressed like picrel

[Anonymous No.16819181]

>>16818087
>on 4chan
>anime so cringe

[Anonymous No.16819205]

>>16818120
Seems based ngl + not a weeb outfit

[Anonymous No.16819220]

>>16817993
They're not people

[Anonymous No.16819349]

>>16818074
This shit is pure trash and only liked by ironic weebs. At least recommend the good ones

[Anonymous No.16819401]

>>16817972
That's not a light novel. Kondasha doesn't publish light novels. The author doesn't even call it a light novel.

[Anonymous No.16819490]

>>16818005
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is unironically good. There is a reason why it's the one that really kickstarted the light novel meme. I never read the later books in the series because based on the anime it's all meaningless crap anyway

[Anonymous No.16819511]

>>16817910
Web novel any good?

[Anonymous No.16819539]

>>16817910
Why is it that Japanese Protags are always so scared of women? How many LNs are just harem stories where every girl is an incredibly beautiful archetype character who is obsessively in love with the protagonist, but the protagonist is completely pants on head deluded? Is this a cultural aspect of Japanese society? I feel like they have an extreme stigma against sex and yet sexualize literally everything they produce to an almost insane degree.

[Anonymous No.16819596]

>>16817910
The only thing that has made me cry are light novels.

[Anonymous No.16819633]

>>16819539
Japan has a very touch averse culture. They also have a lot of neuroses when it comes to sex. Virginity in both men and women until their 30s is the norm, not the exception. The typical Japanese's sex life is having it once with the wife to make 1 (and only one) child. Japanese women are notorious for being calculating and becoming frigid immediately after having given birth, almost like they hate sex and only see it as a means to an end to produce offspring as "their duty" as a wife, although other anons pointed out that the popularity of NTR is due to the fact Japanese women love to cheat on their husbands.
On the men's side, they are typically overworked and overstressed salarymen, so they are almost never at home. Instead of having sex with their frigid/adulterous wives they instead engage in enjo kosai (compensated dating), where they hire high school students to act as their gfs and take them to love motels and pay to fuck.
Of course Japanese think sex is extremely shameful and must be kept out of sight, out of mind. This is probably why hentai is so popular. It's a grotesque parody of sex, the fact that it's so detached from what actual copulation is like (scenarios of tentacle rape, hypnosis, futanari, etc.. abound) makes them paradoxically comfortable because they can feel safe that they are not watching how real sex happens.
Harem is pure wish-fulfillment for otaku that wish a bunch of cute girls would pay attention to a loser like them. The MC never "chooses" one of the girls and never consummates the relationship because that would spoil the wish fulfillment: all the girls remain "pure" so you can choose your waifu without them "belonging" to the MC already.
Really screwed up culture when it comes to that.

[Anonymous No.16819931]

The empty box and zeroth maria was pretty cool

[Anonymous No.16820081]

>>16819539
try this

[Anonymous No.16820246]

this is why i like LNs!

[Anonymous No.16820253]

>>16820246
damn son. we virgin boys are lucky. thanks to this amazing literature

[Anonymous No.16820567]

>>16819633
>when you're entire perception of japan comes from imageboards and sankakucomplex

[Anonymous No.16820973]

>>16819181
It's not like anyone enjoys coming here so what's wrong with saying this?

[Anonymous No.16820983]

>>16818074
>Konosuba
I remember seeing this show all over /a/. Complete dogshit.

[Anonymous No.16821115]

>>16819490
>I never read the later books in the series because based on the anime it's all meaningless crap anyway
Retard. Every book in the series is fantastic. The author actually puts some thought into his stories instead of just making up some shit

[Anonymous No.16821123]

>>16817910
LNs a good way to learn nip, they're entertaining and easy to read.

[Anonymous No.16821295]

>>16819633
This is cringe as fuck. Please never again talk about something you have no idea about

[Anonymous No.16821467]

>>16820246
She looks a little too young, even for him.

[Anonymous No.16821481]

>>16820983
yeah, the waifus are great though

[Anonymous No.16821539]

>>16818031
Dadaistic masterpieces.

[Anonymous No.16821555]

Anyone got that pic of the retarded passages from that dungeon native isekai LN?

[Anonymous No.16821573]

>>16817910
Read picture books baka mangas are superior

[Anonymous No.16821999]

>>16817910
Shill me konosuba (anime)

[Anonymous No.16822019]

unironically pic related, Death Note, and Pokemon Adventures (Kanto-Johto) are my favourite manga series

[Anonymous No.16822748]

>>16819539
theyre based

[Anonymous No.16822772]

>>16817910
There's far better "light" literature to read. Light novels are just anime scripts.

[Anonymous No.16822781]

A "friend" told me Re:zero was his favorite work of fiction
Do I murder him?

[Anonymous No.16822787]

>>16817972
>Kugiriri somehting
sucks
>>16817973
Burger-tier comedy
>>16817910
I watched Grimgal recently and I wanna read the light novels, unfortunately there are only translations in shitty european pidgin

[Anonymous No.16822796]

>>16822781
the web novel is unironically good and has great psychological depth

[Anonymous No.16822810]

>>16822796
please elaborate

[Anonymous No.16822822]

>>16819511
That also got turned into a light novel. Some authors publish their work as a web novel first and if it get's popular enough it get's picked and turned into a light novel.
Same thing happened happened with Re:Zero

[Anonymous No.16822827]

>>16817910
>haha sex and meta rpg
pls stop

[Anonymous No.16822840]

>>16822810
it explores the self loathing and delusional fantasies of NEETs laying bare their dysfunction while attempting to better themselves through the stereotypical mechanisms of the heroic protagonist, the entire premise appears to be the main character trying to' save the girl and save the world' but to do so he has to fundamentally change himself and confront the shallowness of his motives and how his purported love interest is nothing more than an extension of his narcissism and just another fantastical evasion at doing what he should do or even knowing what that is, it is equal parts deconstruction of the isekai genre and a celebration of its demented premise

plus it has Beako who is cute

[Anonymous No.16822881]

>>16822840
pedo drawing

[Anonymous No.16822897]

>>16822881
she's 400 years old

[Anonymous No.16822907]

>>16822897
How comes she looks 8

[Anonymous No.16822910]

>>16821467
She's either using magic to look like a loli or can use magic to become a big hootered mum
t. watched the anime

[Anonymous No.16822914]

>>16822907
axiomatically it follows that however she looks is how one looks at 400 year of age

[Anonymous No.16822920]

>>16817924
>imagining patrick bateman as anime reverse trap
based

[Anonymous No.16822928]

>/a/ makes a colony on /lit/

[Anonymous No.16822940]

>>16822019
Man, I bought the manga version of this and it was too hard. Anything written in really casual Japanese is quite tough.

[Anonymous No.16822974]

Konosuba is Reddit tier, at least advertise some good light novel.

[Anonymous No.16822983]

>>16819633
No wonder Japanese women love BIG INDONESIAN BVLLS

[Anonymous No.16822990]

>>16817910
Nah

[Anonymous No.16823027]

>>16819633
>source: my ass

[Anonymous No.16823069]

I have only read a handful of LNs - Haruhi, Re:Zero, Pancreas, and You Shine in the Moonlit Night. They were all pretty entertaining, but Haruhi definitely stood out from these. Unfortunately though I think the post-Disappearance arcs are a bit disappointing. It's getting a new volume for the first time in forever though this month which is cool.

[Anonymous No.16823106]

>>16822796
>great psychological depth

Is it really there or is it the result of "DEEP ANALYSIS" by anime fans who have nothing better to do?

[Anonymous No.16823130]

>>16822914
No, people age.

[Anonymous No.16823137]

>>16822840
>it explores the self loathing and delusional fantasies of NEETs laying bare their dysfunction while attempting to better themselves through the stereotypical mechanisms of the heroic protagonist, the entire premise appears to be the main character trying to' save the girl and save the world' but to do so he has to fundamentally change himself and confront the shallowness of his motives and how his purported love interest is nothing more than an extension of his narcissism and just another fantastical evasion at doing what he should do or even knowing what that is, it is equal parts deconstruction of the isekai genre and a celebration of its demented premise

How does it achieve that?
(does it do it through monologues, narration, show dont tell, fourth wall breaking, etc?)

[Anonymous No.16823139]

>>16822910
In that case, HE's too young for her

[Anonymous No.16823158]

>>16823137
through plot development

[Anonymous No.16823181]

>>16823139
Which is pretty hot, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.16823194]

>>16823181
If you're a cougar I guess.

[Anonymous No.16823254]

>go on /a/
>it's just a million shonen and isekai threads on the catalog

[Anonymous No.16823318]

>>16823194
you didn't want to make fucky with 25 year old ladies when you were like 16?

[Anonymous No.16823344]

>>16823318
25 is considered old by 16 year olds. Back when I was 16 I was more interested in girls my age than in Christmas cakes.

[Anonymous No.16823376]

>>16823344
Weird, I only dated girls my age become college girls wouldn't give me the time of day. Maybe that's why I liked them...

[Anonymous No.16824643]

>>16822840
it would be cool if it did that a little better, though. Not that I have a problem with it as it is, but that would make it truly delicious

[Anonymous No.16824660]

>>16823137
>How does it achieve that?
mostly by not shying away from depicting the neet protagonist as kinda pathetic including moments that can sometimes be kinda cringy but are pretty realistic to happen for a situation like that. That's obviously in contrast to the standard isekais where you have a pathetic neet be brought into another world only to become an amazing hero in a fairy straight forward way.

The mc's superpower also kind of functions as a narrative device to explore what other characters think of him under different kinds of circumstances.

[Anonymous No.16824672]

>>16823106
Really there.

[Anonymous No.16824684]

>>16822840
This, and the first arc of the anime is absolute kino, because it actually does what Isekai is meant to do: present a new world which the hero has to integrate into. It's unironically a great depiction of the relationship between a rigid society and an outsider (NEET).

[Anonymous No.16825004]

Spice and Wolf is pretty good. It also does a decent job of contextualizing some light microecon theory into a fun story.

[Anonymous No.16825024]

>>16825004
I second this, it's a comfy read. Drags a bit in the middle portions though.

[Anonymous No.16825081]

>>16822796
>>16822840
You forgot to mention that it is millions of words long, words that barely go anywhere most of the time. In(complete) with redundant arcs, whatifs, and any good parts are accompanied with equal parts cringe and bad prose (even if you read it in japanese). Most of the time it is juvenile melodrama.

If you want to read something with similar subversions of this "hero" trope, but with actual characters that resemble people instead of barely human tropes given some semblance of life, read monogatari. And most importantly, it's an official translation, instead of whatever the web novel has.

[Anonymous No.16825183]

>>16822796
Edge being confused with depth. Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.16825595]

>>16825004
hows the sequel?

[Anonymous No.16825693]

>>16825081
>recommending Monogatari in translation just because 'it's official'
>a series that heavily relies on Japanese wordplay
You realize you've outed yourself as an absolute retard, right?

>>16825183
Oh wow look, it's another empty generic bandwagoning choked with buzzword nothing of an opinion. How VERY fucking interesting and worthwhile, thanks a lot anon.

[Anonymous No.16825767]

>>16825693
>>a series that heavily relies on Japanese wordplay
Did you know that weight can also mean emotional weight? Or that staplers are like crab pincers? Truly, what wordplay. The gaijin will never find out.

And, you outed yourself as somebody who hasn't even read past the first volume. The wordplay was never the main focus anyway.

[Anonymous No.16825819]

>>16825693
>Oh wow look, it's another empty generic bandwagoning choked with buzzword nothing of an opinion. How VERY fucking interesting and worthwhile, thanks a lot anon.
>it's another empty generic bandwagoning choked with buzzword
lol

[Anonymous No.16826850]

>>16817910
Currently reading https://ncode.syosetu.com/n3014fi/
Its complete garbage, and honestly I hate the whole VRMMO setting people keep using. But I do appreciate edge lord chuuni MCs, especially when they're female.

desu this is the first Nip isekai/vrmmo (WN) I've read that has the MC casually PKs people without doing that weird beta japanese shit.

[Anonymous No.16827142]

>>16819220
that's cause they trenscended above that

[Anonymous No.16827364]

>>16819633
>Virginity in both men and women until their 30s is the norm, not the exception.
Pic related.

>It's a grotesque parody of sex, the fact that it's so detached from what actual copulation is like (scenarios of tentacle rape, hypnosis, futanari, etc.. abound) makes them paradoxically comfortable because they can feel safe that they are not watching how real sex happens.
The prevalence of "weird" stuff in hentai is most likely due to the retarded Japanese laws concerning censorship. It's okay to show an underage girl being brutally raped and tortured but God forbid that you show a glans or a clitoris. I suspect that this censorship led to focus on fetishes not involving the vagina (like the obsession with huge breasts) and tentacle sex was developed as an alternative to genuine sex since you don't have to censor tentacles, whereas you would have to censor dicks. So it looks to me that Japanese weirdness could be in part explained as an intended result of laws that tried to promote "decency" and instead ended up creating an incentive for further degeneracy.

>Harem is pure wish-fulfillment for otaku that wish a bunch of cute girls would pay attention to a loser like them. The MC never "chooses" one of the girls and never consummates the relationship because that would spoil the wish fulfillment: all the girls remain "pure" so you can choose your waifu without them "belonging" to the MC already.
Mainstream manga and LNs have been pushing the boundary of what is acceptable in non-hentai publications. There are plenty of stories where the MC actually fucks the girls in his harem. Check out the manga adaptation of
"Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo".

[Anonymous No.16827523]

>>16825081
Monogatari is unironically better than many western canon

[Anonymous No.16828089]

>>16827523
dont the english translations suck?

[Anonymous No.16828360]

>>16828089
No worse than most translations. Go read dostoevsky in russian if it's such a big deal to you. The writing is on the simplistic side anyway since it's a light novel, and there actually isn't that much pun, more like some clever wordplays that have not much effects on the novels as a whole

[Anonymous No.16828946]

I've only read Log Horizon, and it's been enjoyable. All the details about the mmorpg mechanics and how the characters have to accurately time themselves within them during team plays or find new workarounds them is something that could only exist in modern day from the mind of a mmorpg enthusiast. I wish I could read more of the 'weird' stuff like boogie pop but there's only so much time in the day with interests that compete for attention

[Anonymous No.16828973]

>not taking the VN pill

[Anonymous No.16829105]

>>16819931
Agree, shame other works by the same author were just regular IMO, kamisu reina was entertaining tho.

[Anonymous No.16829159]

>>16819931
I've been reading this one and enjoying it except for the mary sue heroine

[Anonymous No.16829988]

>>16828973
VNs are massive sinkholes, you don't want to get into them.

[Anonymous No.16830491]

>>16828089
The localized volumes by Vertical are done quite well. Most light novel tls are noticeably worse.

[Anonymous No.16830496]

Take the toarupill and never have to look for another series to read ever again. You won't have time.

[Anonymous No.16830526]

>>16819539
You may as well ask me why so many western books have vampire romance, magic schools, dystopia, etc. Someone wrote a series like that which was popular and everyone else is following the leader.
If you want a real answer, most of these light novel stories are aimed at 13-16 year olds who are just starting to settle into sexuality and may feel uncertain about interacting with girls. The author writes the mc as a scared virgin to sidestep the issue entirely.

[Anonymous No.16830581]

>>16830526
I think it's more about what's acceptable and considered proper behavior. Even in japanese romance TV series aimed at adults, you're lucky if you even get a kiss as the big finale. It's weird, especially with the sorts of borderline hentai adverts there are on the streets. They just don't mix the genres I guess, one is for jacking off, the other is for watching (and jacking off later).

[Anonymous No.16830597]

>>16828360
Jokes on you, I know both Russian and Japanese to enjoy them in their original forms while you have to cope with shitty translations.

[Anonymous No.16830605]

>>16822781
second worst isekai that ever got an anime adaptation (first is overlord)

[Anonymous No.16830608]

>>16830605
This, finally someone is brave enough to say it like it is.

[Anonymous No.16830617]

>>16830581
You have to abide by broadcast standards. Back in the 80s there was far more uncensored gore and sex. Japanese have become pussies.

[Anonymous No.16830643]

>>16830496
I tried it and got bored by the fifth volume.

[Anonymous No.16830647]

>>16819539
Because its FUNNY. All the armchair sociologists blogging about Japanese prudishness ITT are retarded. They're called ROMCOMS - ROMANTIC COMEDIES. The idea that a hot girl aggressively pursues a guy and he is either oblivious or scared is funny. They're first and foremost comedies, not serious works of romance you absolute fucking morons.
>b-but I don't find it funny
So what? I don't find pop culture reference humor funny but that doesn't mean I don't recognize it as a form of humor.

[Anonymous No.16830666]

>>16830647
A lot of them aren't listed as comedies.

[Anonymous No.16830678]

>>16830666
Vast, overwhelming majority of the ones who contain that """trope""" are, and it's possible comic scenes in works that aren't primarily comedies. But you will exceptionally rarely encounter it in a """serious""" work.

[Anonymous No.16830681]

>>16817910
Read Crimson Tower then

[Anonymous No.16830695]

>>16830678
Damn, he's right.

[Anonymous No.16830718]

>>16830597
Sure thing anon. I'm literally seething after being owned so hard by your multi lingual

[Anonymous No.16831853]

I liked Katanagatari, both the anime and the english hardcover release of the books

[Anonymous No.16831874]

okay weebs, give me something cosy to read in December, preferably long and episodic.

[Anonymous No.16832474]

>>16831874
>Toaru Majitsu no Index
Pro: 45+ main volumes as well as various side stories and still ongoing and in english thanks to a very dedicated fan translator
Con: Takes a while to get going. First section of official localization done by an ESL retard
>Monogatari
Pro: I think about 15 of the volumes are translated, shifting focus on different characters. Episodic with many comedic moments
Con: Hard to read when you're sleepy. I can only enjoy them in the morning with coffee.
>Boogiepop
Pro: six volumes are translated, they're enjoyable enough and probably a good entry point if you don't want to commit to a longer series. Each story is multiple perspectives often told out of order before coming together in the end.
Con: There's actually something like 20 volumes written over the course of a couple decades, but the English rights holder only did the first six years ago and just sits on the series doing fucking nothing with it beyond the occasional reprint. Fan TL scene not really off the ground, you're mostly stuck with those six volumes.

[Anonymous No.16833188]

>>16831874
Katanagatari is a 12 book series where the story takes place across a year and one book was released each month, comfy adventure about swords and samurai and swordsmen and swordless swordsmen
Same author as monogatari but a completely different and self-contained story

[Anonymous No.16833203]

>>16817910
Fuck off, light novels are garbage no better than Harry potter.

[Anonymous No.16834385]

>>16833203
Ummm, how about you suck my cock bitch?

[Anonymous No.16834538]

https://ncode.syosetu.com/n8091eb/

Reading this. It's a pretty fun little story about a "villainess" who gets sent into exile for trying to sabotage the relationship between the heroine and the prince, and is forces to marry some fat duke. However he's only like 23, so she resolves to make him lose weight and look as good as possible so she can fuck over everyone who's spat on her, especially her despicable cousin. It's cute to watch both the duke and our MC gradually open up to each other as they slowly get to learn about the other person. Prosewise though, the words 砂糖 (sugar) and 脂 (fat/lard) are used waaay too frequently. Otherwise I'd recommend it. Need to know japanese though, no translations as far as I know.

[Anonymous No.16835025]

>>16817910
Recomend me one with cute animals insted of pedoshit.

[Anonymous No.16835030]

>>16817910
Fuck off and go back tk Netflix

[Anonymous No.16835515]

I still dont understand konosuba