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>"Virginity in a woman is something to be prized; but in a man it is something detestable, particularly after he has settled into his chosen avocation and begun receiving an income; then it is his duty to marry. Certainly after the age of 20 it is an abnormality, admitted only in those of weakest constitution, such as that bear deformities or are taken by drink, idleness, or pathological shyness. It is of dire importance for such men to find a wife; for the more they tarry, more shall their world warp around that lack, more shall their unshed virtue become a burden, and compel them to sin against themselves through masturbation, and against others. Indeed it is a prerequisite for admission into the civilized reaches of society."
What do you guys think of this quote from Emerson? Bear in mind his friend Thoreau was a lifelong virgin.

>> No.16817718

>>16817711
>22
>virgin
>lazy
>coomer
He's right

>> No.16817728

>>16817711
>Certainly after the age of 20 it is an abnormality, admitted only in those of weakest constitution, such as that bear deformities or are taken by drink, idleness, or pathological shyness
Literally me

>> No.16817743

I don't think he clearly explains why exactly virginity in a woman is something worth treasuring but in a man it's not. Assuming he implies that female virgins prove their dedication to their ideal, purity and faithfulness by not resenting their virginity, I don't see why the same argument can't be made for men.

>> No.16817756

>>16817711
Isaac Newton, the most important scientist in history of mankind, a lifelong virgin
Literallywho Emerson, some Z-list writer, a non-virgin (debatable, with that face)

>> No.16817792

Wasn't he a fag? or was it whitman?

>> No.16817812

>>16817756
>spends all day fapping to porn alone in his room
>look mom I'm just like Isaac Newton!

>> No.16817822

>>16817743
Women are ideally passive, even in this case of dedication all they must do is the lack of action. Men are actors in the world, they must DO something. The feminine man is the man that doesn't do anything and he becomes much less than a woman who at least has the potential to help a man.

>> No.16817834

>>16817792
In the OP quote he definitely sounds like a fag. Never cared for him and the OP proved me right.

>> No.16817841

>>16817711
>shall their unshed virtue become a burden, and compel them to sin against themselves through masturbation, and against others.

Using virtue as a euphemism for semen is pretty funny.

>> No.16817849

>>16817711
>idleness, or pathological shyness
fuck

>> No.16817860

>>16817711
>Indeed it is a prerequisite for admission into the civilized reaches of society
surprised that Emerson took such a pro-society stance desu

>> No.16817863

>>16817756
>(debatable, with that face)
Kek
>>16817812
are you going to tell me newton never masturbated?

>> No.16817865

>>16817711
You got a source for that quote? Couldn't find anything by googling.

>> No.16817875

Why the fuck does /lit/ have so many virgins? Isn't this the "smart" board? How fucking sad do you have to be to not lose your virginity by 20 lmao, just impress some art hoe with your knowledge of books and fuck her.

>> No.16817878

>>16817863
Newton was an occultist who preserved his seed so that he may penetrate into the secrets of the universe

>> No.16817884

>>16817865
From his letters to Louisa May Alcott

>> No.16817891

>>16817878
yes and there is no way i can verify that it's true
The man probably nutted

>> No.16817904

>>16817875
High IQ lowers your reproductive success.

>> No.16817918

>>16817904
pure cope
you are not a virgin because you have a high Iq
you are a virgin because you are a socially awkward loser who never showers

>> No.16817947

>>16817756
Newton took it up the ass

>> No.16817965

>>16817875
Fuck you, asshole. I'm 5'6, how's that for a reason? No book I read will make me taller. You have no idea how I feel, so fuck off with your normie bullshit please.

>> No.16817969

>>16817918
Maybe i don't want to have sex

>> No.16818002

>>16817875
I don't leave my house

>> No.16818095

>>16817875
girls scary

>> No.16818097

>>16817965
>>16817969
>>16818002
>>16818095
How was your relationship with your mother?

>> No.16818105

I am not virgin but I am more into trannies.
I feel like I should become something akin to a vampire, a degenerate living in the night

>> No.16818116

>>16817965
Bro I have a friend who is 5'6 and he fucking slayed in college. He's a neurotic fucking tard too. Go to the gym you despicable faggot holy shit.

>>16817904
pure cope kys you disgusting virgin freak. Change your life or perish.

>> No.16818118

>>16817947
All greatest men in history did. Homosexually has a strong correlation with genius.

>> No.16818122

>30khv

Can confirm women despise it.

>> No.16818125

>>16818122
How?

>> No.16818133
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>>16817711
>it is his duty to marry
Says who?

>> No.16818134

>>16817918
>>16818116
t. roasties

>> No.16818135

Based Emerson laying down facts. Even the fucking Atlantic posted a article of a study confirming virgin women have the most stable marriages. I’m sorry most of /lit/ was raised by single coping whores

>> No.16818147

>>16818118
"I should like to know why nearly every man that approaches greatness tends to homosexuality, whether he admits it or not." - D. H. Lawrence

>> No.16818164

>>16817875
I'm fucked up, schizo and gruesomely ugly to add to this tragedy, there is no hope.
28 KHHV here

>> No.16818178

>>16818097
It's absolutely great and I'm not afraid of women, I'm >>16817969

>> No.16818241

He isn't saying its a shame not to be fucking sluts up before 20, he's saying its a shame not to have a wife at 20.

>> No.16818263

>>16818125
Short answer is child abuse, ruined me for years. Only starting to get a grip on things in the last year or two.

>> No.16818307

>>16817711
In this quote from Emerson he takes so much a priori that can no longer be taken for granted in 2020.

>> No.16818388

>MARRY
>REPRODUCE
>CONFORM
Amerimutt school of philosophy in three words

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>>16818116
>go to the gym
Working out for vanity is disgusting, especially if you're just doing it for sex. If you can't motivate yourself, and no working out for whores is not self-motivation, then there's no point to it. I have a very small routine (which I do at home) that keeps me healthy, limber, and free of back pain (I'm a thin 6'3"), and that's all I care for. So shove it up your ass roastie, I'm saving it for marriage.

>> No.16818478

>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST FAP YOU GOTTA FIND A WOMAN AND SUPPORT HER IN EXCHANGE FOR PUSY CRUMBS LIKE MEEEE
What I love about fapping besides it's prime relief function is knowledge that there exist faggots like that who get asspained from the idea of humans exercising the most basic freedom of touching their own physical bodies.

>> No.16818506

>>16818465
>I'm saving it for marriage.
But you'll never be in a threesome like me, and I'm 5'11" :3

>> No.16818516

>>16817711
He's right.

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16818525

>tfw too smart to have sex

>> No.16818536

>>16818478
The compulsive desire to touch your genitals is not a freedom, silly coomer.

>> No.16818539

>>16818525
my brain actually does this sometimes

>> No.16818610

>>16818536
You have a compulsive desire to eat and breathe, better stop doing that too

>> No.16818626

>>16818610
>equating maturation to breathing and eating
you should give it a rest bro

>> No.16818631

>>16818610
Either you do not know what compulsion is, or you are a nihilist. In any case, you must be 18 years old before you can post on this board.

>> No.16818642

If men are fucking women, the women lose their virginity. You cant have society of chaste women and virile men

>> No.16818643

>>16817792
I'm pretty sure Emerson had a male lover in college

>> No.16818651

>>16817849
the old 1-2 punch

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>> No.16818668

>>16818642
Maybe he wants for there to be a caste of sluts that all the men can lose their virginity to while leaving the majority of women pure.

>> No.16818679

>>16817863
Newton probably didn't masturbate, but regardless, you are not Isaac Newton.

>> No.16818693

>>16818668
Sounds gross desu. Its not much an accomplishment to fuck a state prescribed whore. Thats like giving out participation trophies

>> No.16818695

>>16817965
A 5'6 manlet cucked me out of my 8/10 arthoe gf in college. They're married now.

>> No.16818821

>>16818097
I was raised by a single father. My mom was only on the periphery.

>> No.16819037

>>16817711
I’ve just never had any interest in women, it’s really that simple. First of all I don’t want to get married and I definitely don’t want any children. That pretty much invalidates women to me. Secondly I don’t see the value in sex, it just doesn’t seem very worthwhile. On top of that, I’ve never wanted to just be in a relationship for any reason. I’ve never wanted some little scrappy doo sidekick who follows me around.

>> No.16819046

>>16819037
that's because you have schizoid personality disorder

>> No.16819056

>>16817711
>and compel them to sin against themselves through masturbation
Its not a sin

>> No.16819064

>>16819046
Why’s that?

>> No.16819087

>>16819046
if you arent like me you have a disorder.

>> No.16819123

I never wanted it or pursued it. I am friends with women and talk to them more often than men.
But I still feel bad for being virgin. Like I missed out and that I'm inferior. I don't know why. Even though my friends are mostly virgin.

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16819160

I'm terrified of talking to girls after years of sexual abuse at the hands of my father and humiliating experiences at school. I've been in therapy for years and I'm still struggling. I commission romance fiction on Fiverr as a proxy. I've spent thousands of dollars on the site.

>> No.16819173

>>16819160
Its a miracle you aren't a tranny

>> No.16819179

>>16819160
>humiliating experiences at school
Like what?

>> No.16819221

I hate women because they look at you through the lens of utility and see you as only resources.

>> No.16819243

>>16819160
i am afraid of girls too but I have never experienced abuse or humiliation
why is that?

>> No.16819272

>particularly after he has settled into his chosen avocation and begun receiving an income

>> No.16819342

>>16818164
I lost my virginity at 28

>> No.16819377

>>16819221
I hate men because they look at you through the lens of their dick and see you as only a wet hole.

>> No.16819378

>>16818668
>a caste of sluts
That has always existed

>> No.16819414

>>16819378
>>16818668
It's called prostitution. But the kind of incel who obsesses so much about a woman's virginal purity would also object to prostitutes and going to a brothel. So which is it? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

>> No.16819422

My biggest issue with missing out on youthful sex i that at my age I'm not supposed to suck at sex. Lack of sex doesn't bother me all that much, but when I do have sucks there is no chance I'll be good at it.

>> No.16819424

yeah you should lose your virginity but keep in mind its like a one-time thing, once its gone its gone and you don't have some kind of obligation to date a lot of girls or waste your time entertaining a girlfriend you don't plan to marry

>> No.16819431

>>16819414
The problem for me with prostitution is not the female purity part but the part of how women give it out for free nowadays and here you are having to pay for it.

>> No.16819436

>>16819431
They give it out to men they think are attractive, maybe try becoming attractive

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16819444

>>16818118
I really doubt Wagner took it up the ass.

>> No.16819462

>>16819436
My problem is not really an issue of attractiveness it's that I am cowardly, not necessarily of women, but of the world at large. I still live at home and I'm not bringing any women here. Add on to that I don't want to explain why I still live at home to a woman and you understand the stupidity of my neurosis.

>> No.16819467

>>16819444
Wagner is shit. Terrible music for small-minded, seething impotents.

>> No.16819469

>>16818118
>All greatest men in history did
List them

>> No.16819471

>>16819431
>>16819462
A third option is to stop virgin shaming men.

>> No.16819493

>>16817711
>Bear in mind his friend Thoreau was a lifelong virgin.
Well, now I've lost all my hope of finding a cutie who'd be willing to live in the woods.
:/

>> No.16819514

>>16817822
>The feminine man is the man that doesn't do anything
Would "intelectual" pursuits count or do I have to be an active kind?

>> No.16819527

>>16817711
what is it with ameriburgers and their obsession with virginity and other peoples sex lives? what the fuck is wrong with you fat retards?

>> No.16819537

>>16818147
>every man that approaches greatness tends to homosexuality, whether he admits it or not.
What does he mean with that?

>> No.16819604

>>16817875
I'm too poor. I don't have a job and I'm trying to be responsible avoiding children which I can't raise and not fucking up society even more.
What about that? Is a quite reasonable answer.
Plus, I'm so used to fapping that I don't find all the process of chasing women and sustaining a relationship with them worth it most of the time.

>> No.16819713

>>16817875
My PP small. :(

>> No.16819787

>>16819243
No woman ever acted like she wanted you but was just pretending? No woman was ever intensely attracted to you but then dropped you all of a sudden? You never fell in love with someone that you think is a woman on an MMO then lost your internet connection and couldn't get it back then start hallucinating her voice in your head and making a relationship with someone in your head?

>> No.16819791

>>16817743
Men and women are not the same creatures and ought not to be held up to the same standards.

>>16817792
He was bi, but never had male partners, only female.

>> No.16819795

>>16817711
Where did he say that? I think you're just made it up, he was a huge fanboy for lifelong celibates Plotinus and Shankara.

>> No.16819798

>>16817711
>29
>born-again virgin
>not lazy (w ritalin)
>autistic

>> No.16819934

Emerson was a New England transcendentalist, why would he argue this? How gullible are you people?
If you wanted to shitpost with Emerson you should just bring up how he was pro-race mixing in order to create a hybrid American ethnicity that could define itself independently of old European, indigenous, and African cultures.

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>>16819934
Based, mixed-race people are incredibly attractive.

>> No.16819958

>>16819946
They can be. They can also be extremely grotesque like anyone else.

>> No.16819986

>>16819934
>If you wanted to shitpost with Emerson you should just bring up how he was pro-race mixing in order to create a hybrid American ethnicity that could define itself independently of old European, indigenous, and African cultures.
So, Brazil?

>> No.16819994

>>16817875
I have been offered sex a few times but I said no

>> No.16820005

>>16819986
Basically, he was getting sick of old ethnic loyalties getting in the way and dividing the populace.

>> No.16820012

>>16819537
he means you're bound for big things

>> No.16820018

>>16819604
retard use a condom

>> No.16820020

>duty to marry
>sin
>admission into the civilized reaches of society

Spooky

>> No.16820021

>>16819469
You want a list of all the greatest men in history?

>> No.16820045

>>16820012
>he means you're bound for big things
You made me giggle. Maybe you're right (mad)

>> No.16820058

>>16819471
That will never happen

>> No.16820063

Can't lose my virginity till I move out of my mum's house

>> No.16820079

>>16820063
>Can't lose my virginity till I move out of my mum's house
I think the same (kinda).
But first the job.

>> No.16820098

>>16820018
>retard use a condom
If that's so easy then why am I surrounded by all these neighbours babes?
Also, you missed the second part.

>> No.16820100

>>16820012
lmao underrated post

>> No.16820172

>>16817891
cope. masturbation is abnormal, not a necessity, only a pornsick moid of today would pretend otherwise to protect his ego.

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>>16819946

>> No.16820265

>>16820172
>masturbation is abnormal, not a necessity
And what about "wet dreams"?
Isn't it you body finding ways of releasing its tensions?

>> No.16820302

>>16820234
well, you can't have the 10's without the 1's

>> No.16820345

>>16820265
never had a wet dream, wouldn't know. but i do know extrapolating them as a cope for masturbation has no basis but wishful thinking. they seem to be nothing more than a coincidental product of a dream with one's reproductive faculties still capable. what if you have no sexual dreams? of course, those already pornsick and addicted may have a high frequency of sexual dreams and some may be wet, but this justifies nothing.

there is no 'tension' to be released, it is a fiction of the chronic masturbator who cannot conceive of people who don't masturbate as being happier and more pleased than he (which they universally are). it's typical addictive behaviour, defending the addiction by any means including convincing himself that he 'needs' it to 'relieve tension', just a little helping hand to get through the day right. yep.

>> No.16820353

>>16820012
Which is to have greatness thrust upon them, in many cases, as Malvolio let it slip.

>> No.16820431

>>16817792
Whitman was the uber-fag, and though I can imagine Emerson's first reaction to his serenely self-accepting stance on masturbation, it's not the kind of thing he told in writing, at least not directly.

>> No.16820644

>>16820345
>what if you have no sexual dreams?
That is a HUGE what if. You know even absolutely pious monks have wet dreams once in a while?
You could argue the FREQUENCY of it and then, I said THEN, you might have a point.
Therefore, the guy will do it or his body will do it for him once in a while, that's it.

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>>16817711

what a negasimp

>> No.16820685

>>16820644
no. again with your wishful thinking and generous pro-masturbation conclusion.

masturbation does not relieve one's 'tension' or 'urges' it invents and entrenches these ideas, harming your health and self-control, wasting your time for something that actively makes you feel worse whenever you're not slavishly sating it. indeed, the act itself no longer feels good for chronic masturbators and they become impotent too. so it's not even a poor trade rationalised by addicts, it can't be called a trade at all as you get nothing in return but a brief respite from the feeling of discomfort and mind fog that it itself creates.

>> No.16820764

>>16820685
>>16820685
Man, I thought you was arguing for celibacy. Were you not?
Because if someone have sexual thoughts and don't actually have sex for prolongued periods of time (quite common nowadays) the thing will eventually "flow out".
But then you might argue we shoudn't absolutely EVER have sexual thoughts but then how (with what motivation) would we pursue the opposite sex?
How would nature do its wonderful trick?
Also, masturbation can serve as a preparation act even WHEN you have a girl, helping you to last longer and thus satisfying her better.
Plus, how do you justify the wild monkeys strucking their dicks? Isn't that Nature in full motion?

>> No.16820902

bump

>> No.16821195

>>16819444
Wagner the crossdresser got pegged by his masculine wife Cosima

>> No.16821214

>>16817711
Sounds like a typical example of the socialization that tells men they have no value except in proving their worth to women, while women have intrinsic value. Strangely basic take from someone renowned for his supposed wisdom. Just goes to show how many "great men" are nothing more than herd animals.

>> No.16821256

>>16817756
>Emerson
>Literallywho

learn about culture, fag

>> No.16821266

>>16818002
This

>> No.16821279

>>16820764
never thought about celibacy, i'll have to think about it, but sex (especially in a committed relationship) is nothing like masturbating, it's even physiologically different. i'm not sure your point about lasting longer is true especially considering it can cause erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation, but i have assumed it to be true in myself at least. it's still not reason to do it. just as the education pornography provides is no reason to also take in the falsehood and deleterious perception it provides.

>Plus, how do you justify the wild monkeys strucking their dicks? Isn't that Nature in full motion?
could you post an example?
but you shouldn't mistake Nature for nature. nature can easily be dysfunctional, it depends on the particulars. you could easily argue some outside impact on them makes it unnatural, there is nothing in 'nature' not influenced by 'not nature', but you could also argue that zoo animals and humans doing it is nature's approval too. it's just not a valid point and coasts along on the association with Nature which does not mean wild animals or natural environment.

>> No.16821280

>>16817711
>men have no value except in proving their worth to women, while women have intrinsic value
I don't know what the context of this Emerson quote is, but he's definitely spot on when it comes to telling it like it is, instead of the way it ought to be

>> No.16821285

>>16821280
dude all men know this by adulthood among other rules

>> No.16821339

>>16819946

>> No.16821349

>>16817918
The statistical correlation exists whether you like it or not. It’s been that way forever. Only now we’ve exacerbated things even more by freeing otherwise plain boring women to wantonly chase after men who will never settle down with them. Add onto this the plague of porn, social media, and socially stunted boys raised by spiteful single mothers and you get what we have today.
We’ve managed to fuck things up so badly that even the midwits won’t breed at a sustainable rate. A sad state of affairs.

>> No.16822164

>>16820764
UH MONKE WACK OFF AND KILL EACH OTHER THEREFORE IT GOOD

>> No.16822647

>>16822164
As a young teen I remember my rat saw me jack off. He learned to jack off too. Poor creature, confined to a tiny cage and full of boredom.

>> No.16823096

>>16822647
>As a young teen I remember my rat saw me jack off. He learned to jack off too.
Bullshit. Kek

>> No.16823227

>>16817965
imagine being under six feet

>> No.16823675

>>16818465

lol at that pic

>> No.16823909

>>16818631
There is literally no reason not to fap
>it makes you a degenerate
define degenerate, I never do anythin illegal, or anything that causes harm to anyone
>it's a addiction
I only do it a few times per week
You have no practical arguments, only religious dogma

>> No.16824534

>>16820063
>>16820079
If women aren't attracted to you now, moving out or achieving goal XYZ won't change that. You either have it or you don't

>> No.16824597

>>16817711
have sex

>> No.16824627

>>16819514
Intellectual pursuits are forms of creation, like an art but the accomplishment of more physical and spiritual kinds are a more masculine pursuit

>> No.16824629

>>16823909
not even a Christfag but ironically enough you follow the dogma of attachment to your sensuous experiences

>> No.16824773

>>16824627
>Intellectual pursuits are forms of creation, like an art but the accomplishment of more physical and spiritual kinds are a more masculine pursuit
Are you arguing the great male artists in history are actually "in spirit" female?

>> No.16824874

>>16817792
>>16819791
Were all the American authors of that time fags? Hawthorne and Melville had a strange relationship too.

>> No.16824902

>>16819946
The children of attractive people are attractive, the children of ugly people are ugly. There’s a reason why the mixed race daughter of David Bowie and his African supermodel wife is hot whilst the offspring of Robert Deniro and his ratchet chubby wife are half wop goblinos.

>> No.16824905

>>16817711
>idleness, or pathological shyness
kek this is me. not an alcoholic though so thats good.

>> No.16824938

the equivalent of detestable male virginity for females is nulliparism . a woman who has not given birth becomes more and more an abomination with every passing year

>> No.16824957

male virginity doesn't even exist, it's a totally meaningless concept lmao

>> No.16824963

>>16819791
>He was bi, but never had male partners, only female.
What the fuck? How does it work?

>> No.16825236

>>16817875
Why is having sex such a big deal?

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I hate nonvirgins with a passion.
I don't want sex or a gf but that doesn't stop me from hating everyone who does.
Especially this guy.

>> No.16825395

>>16817711
also keep in mind people married in their teens at the time which is where he gets his 20 idea from.

>> No.16825410

>>16817756
It's bad if geniuses don't pass on their genes.

>> No.16825419

>>16825236
>Why is having sex such a big deal?
Because she's a female and that's how they measure a men's worthy (his "experience") they then after unironically complain about male infidelity.
The women take pride in changing a man's ways. -Yeah, he was scum but FOR ME he became a "better man". FOR ME he he wears a leash now, FOR ME the indomitable wanderer finallysettled down. And all this by the power of LOVE (pussy).
Look, what can I do. Look how powerful I am. I am as powerful as the power of my man.
So look UP!
From down to above,
there is my love.
My SUN, my Boss...

>> No.16825495
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>>16820345
>never had a wet dream
Found the compulsive masturbator. Making these posts railing against the evils of masturbation, imagined and real, won't help you kick your habit.

>> No.16825501

>>16817711
male virginity is a fallacy, it's not a thing.

>> No.16825511

>>16817792
virginity means not being penetrated, he wants all men to be penetrated. it's obvious he's a faggot.

>> No.16825534

>>16824629
Sensuous experiences aren't a dogma. They are the only faculties through which we perceive the world. Pain, arousal, and even religious ecstasy are all mere "sensuous experiences" as you vulgarly phrase it.

>> No.16826178

>>16817965
there are guys who are 5'0" who are slaying right now because they actually have a personality
your height isn't an excuse for being a beta

>> No.16826355

>>16826178
>there are guys who are 5'0" who are slaying right now
Yeah man, I see so many of these cases.
Even men uglier than me have had actually better "lucky". The moment the incel aknowledge it wasn't his looks (to most at least) that was in fact pushing him back but actually it was his embittered PERSONALITY and that that's his hugest issue, it will be a big revelation.
Then the next question is:
How he can "love" if he FEELS he never was loved?
My guess is they should be acquainted with Nieztche's idea of "resentment" and do their best to avoid it. Most of them are already fascists anyway so they better put this concept to work.
Also, love the women for "what they are". They're "simpler" beings than the average anon. And you, anon, are dumb too in your own way, so give them some slack.
Plus, don't understimate the social awareness they can bring to your life. They know instantly by "feeling" things you could never get solely by reason.

>> No.16826387

>>16817711
>implying marriage and virginity are related at all

>> No.16826408

>>16824773
He's got some wacky, insecure version of /pol/ masculinity that has to crouch about in a defensive posture it's whole life.
>ideally, women should be passive
lol, what a baby. The most powerful, richest and violent pirate empire in history was run by a woman.

>> No.16826421

>>16826355
>They're "simpler" beings than the average anon.
Women are more complex, you're a fucken loser, i have four kids, shut the fuck up forever.

>> No.16826427

>>16826421
kek

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>>16817711
its true

>> No.16826612

>>16826421
>Women are more complex, you're a fucken loser, i have four kids, shut the fuck up forever.
I mean their interests, you dumb fuck. Anon get to compreend that he should stop searching for a "lit/ girlfriend", if you know what I mean. I'm NOT talking about their personalities, moods and way of being. I'm trying to make things easier for anon making him understand that, Yep he's gonna have to sit down and watch that shit tv-show that she likes instead of idk discussing french poetry eg.
Yes, there are a few lit/ girls out there but there are much more important traits desirable in a woman. The ancient people knew this. Do you think Aristotle's wife was into philosophy? More important, do you think he cared?
Not at all.

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>>16817891
you guys realize for most of human history it was universally recognized as degenerate?
certainly someone of newtons stature wouldnt have indulged
and it does make you go insane
i know this from personal experience
the worlds fucking terrifying
i guess if you dont notice a mental state deterioration then it just means that it was deteriorated in the first place
which is an even more destitute realization

>> No.16826661

>>16826642
I'd try it but I don't quite trust myself.
I fear the results.

>> No.16826672

>>16826661
dont try it
dont masturbate
its like dont start heroin because chances are if you are on this website you will end up abusing it to hell

>> No.16826688

>>16826672
>you will end up abusing it to hell
Abusing what? Celibacy?

>> No.16826786

>>16826642
>you guys realize for most of human history it was universally recognized as degenerate?
No it wasn't retard
I bet you also think people didn't have "premarital sex" for most of history
Fucking retard

>> No.16826835

>>16817711
I would probably agree with this guy if I lived in that time period.But now?Fucking kek.He couldnt even began to imagine how bad the world will become and what the so called "progress" and "equality" would do to the society he cherished
BIG FUCKING LOL

>> No.16826919

>>16818002
yea, don't go out there. so overrated.

>>16818095
also overrated

>>16819037
Shaggypilled

>>16819527
I don't think you eat enough burgers, wherever you live. Burgerposter

>>16821214
In yer face Emerfag!

>>16821266
seriously, don't go out there. I've been out there, Just no.

>>16822647
Leave Splinter out of this.

>>16824773
Not Jungpilled, LOL.

>>16824938
You mean more valued. She has SMV. Single mommies don't have as much SMV. Post-birth vaginal sex is a waste of time. Like throwing a rock in the grand canyon, you have to hit the sides.

>>16825236
It's so overrrated.

>>16825410
>implying humanity is going somewhere.BAKA

>>16826355
magical thinking. citation needed

>>16826408
press f to doubt

>>16826642
yeah those monkeys hated all that D-gen

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>>16820172
>cope. masturbation is abnormal

>> No.16826936

>>16817875
Women just don’t like me. Women have always been avoidant or hostile towards me from the jump. The only times they have ever been polite to me is when is if they’re very old or in strong, committed relationships. The few occasions women have behaved like they like me is when I used to chat with then over instant messaging apps without showing them a picture. I’m just ugly.

>> No.16826937

>>16826925
Behaving like an animal probably shouldn't be your highest ideal

>> No.16826941

>>16826919
>Not Jungpilled, LOL.
What is the difference between masculine and feminine energy according to jung. Which books does he talk about them in?

>> No.16826948

>>16826937
Humans are animals, behaving like a human is behaving like an animal.

>> No.16826957

>>16826948
Cringe

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>>16826957
Not an argument, faggot.

>> No.16826970

>>16826965
I don't argue with animals

>> No.16826971

>>16826948
We have a winner!

>> No.16826984

>>16826970
Sucks being you then. I talk with dolphins all the time.

>> No.16826991

>>16826919
>magical thinking. citation needed
He wants citations, or in other words, "this is true because somebody else said it before". Kek
Take the Jung-pill, you faggot.

>> No.16827000

>>16826661
??????you never nutted
I don't know how in the hell
but yeah never do it you're extremely lucky

>> No.16827013

>>16820345
You might just be an unvirile cur, I would gladly cuck you in front of whatever woman begrudgingly chooses you for their partnership out of nothing other than the pursuit of the stability of a cuck provider, she would enjoy my company

>> No.16827025

>>16820685
Just masturbate, its okay, the skydaddy isn't going to damn your eternal soul for it

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>>16826925
>my ancestor

>> No.16827048

>>16826941
Try The Anima - the Woman Within p.177 of Man and his Symbols. Or just start on ch 3 page 158

>> No.16827060

>>16826991
you must be a woman then

>> No.16827064

>>16827000
>??????you never nutted
>I don't know how in the hell
>but yeah never do it you're extremely lucky
I'm talking about the consequencies of stop fapping since I don't have a girl at the moment. Do you know how the majority of rapists are men? To what do you impute that?

>> No.16827074

>>16821214
Only based post in this thread

>> No.16827077

>>16817711
>Some long dead nigger tells me what I should be doing with my dick

Fuuuuck right on off with that shit.

>> No.16827080

>>16827060
>you must be a woman then
Do you understand citations work as authority arguments, do you?
Or can't you get into MALE-philosophy?

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>>16823909
>You have no practical arguments, only religious dogma
Let us compare the coomer to the nofapper.

The coomer is ill-disciplined
This lack of discipline leads to cowardice
cowardice leads to weakness
weakness leads to tyranny
tyranny leads to unhappiness
the coomer is unhappy.

The nofapper is disciplined
This discipline leads to courage
courage leads to strength
strength leads to kingliness
kingliness leads to happiness
the nofapper is happy.

>> No.16827135

>>16827048
Thank you!

>> No.16827174

>>16827102
>you either fap 5x a day or don't fap at all
Retard

>> No.16827211

>>16827064
>I'm talking about the consequencies of stop fapping
yes you should stop
trust me I have about 10x more testosterone than everyone on this gay board
you'll be fine

>> No.16827220

>>16819787
no, sadly
i do get crushes on girls but no girl has ever shown affection to me, even if just pretending

>> No.16827229

>>16819787
Hey man! You're not the only schizo here. That's why I'm a virgin too

>> No.16827259

>Chick I like don't give a shit
Chick I don't give a shit about won't leave me alone

Why does god do this to me? Sick fuck.

>> No.16827315

>>16827174
>you either fap 5x a day or don't fap at all
You either fap or you don't, retard.

>> No.16827332

>>16817711
>Virginity in a woman is something to be prized; but in a man it is something detestable
Maybe at the time of writing, this was true, however I believe virginity in both is equally desirable. It shows temperance for a man to abstain from sex in a world where all you need to do for sex is get drunk and talk to a slut. Likewise, it shows faithfulness in a woman who saves herself for her future husband. There is nothing impressive really in losing your virginity. I am loth to admit that at 21 I regrettably lost my virginity. It was a lot easier than I realised, I just needed to copy the "normalfaggots" as they are often called. A lot of guys I know with 'impressive' sex lives lost theirs at 20. Most of the media today really pushes that you lose your virginity ASAP, like sex is some great experience. It's meh. Jacking off to my imagination is nicer.

The modern man is normally in high school til 18, and is often pushed into higher education straight after. Then, at the age of 21, he is finally 'skilled' enough to become an unpaid intern, and hopefully by 30 he is out of debt. Times change. If you want to break out of the working class, then you must realise the odds are stacked against you. This old aristocrat is saying that apparently there's something wrong with you because you choose to devote yourself to something more than cooming in a woman before turning 20. Ultimately, this idea can be used to justify keeping the working class as working class. Newton and Leibniz did wonders for humanity, they were likely virgins because they were just some autistic dudes who cared more about mathematics than getting their dicks wet. I respect them far more than any footballer.

>Yes goyim, work shitty manual labour jobs, get a wife at 18 and have lots of fun sexxx and start a family
>The 6 years between 14 and 20 should be devoted to having fun secksithyme, not putting yourself in good stead for the rest of your life.
>Make sure you cooom and consoooom. If you are 20 and don't have a stable income, there is something wrong with you, you should change what you're doing and go into a factory job where you will slave away the rest of your life

>> No.16827371

>>16827315
And there's nothing wrong with fapping once in awhile, retard

>> No.16827401

>>16827371
Fapping is ill-discipline, retard.

>> No.16827416

>>16827401
Why?

>> No.16827434

>>16827416
All people, we shall say, desire the good, and only fail to do so out of a lack of control, or ill-discipline.

>> No.16827443

>>16827434
Whu is fapping not good?

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>all these retards ITT believing he actually wrote this

>> No.16827484

>>16827443
The function of the sexual organ is reproduction. With this in mind, fapping can only be seen as a sort of impotence or disability, for the sexual organ, when used in this manner, fails at it's role. That is why fapping is not good.

>> No.16827489

Does it count as losing my virginity if I stick my cock in a horse?

>> No.16827506

>>16827484
The function of the man's sexual organ is to release sperm.

>> No.16827513

>>16827506
what is the function of sperm?

>> No.16827528

>>16827513
To enter an egg. Most of them fail at this task.
We are talking about the sexual organ, not the sperm.

>> No.16827605

>>16827506
Yes, I suppose we can put it like that. Whatever is the case, what is to be prided is the purposeful and disciplined use of that function. Consider the archer and his bow. We can describe the function of the bow in similar terms, as the mere propulsion of the arrow. The archer, though, is expected to shoot his arrows, not with wanton abandon, but towards a target or enemy, or to otherwise keep his bow sheathed and tucked away. To the archer which follows the former example, questions must be raised about his discipline and regarding his potence. Furthermore, this sort of misbehaviour is a severe waste of the archer's critical resource, arrows. Consequently, he can not be said to be a good archer. The same goes for the coomer, his discipline and potence must be held under scrutiny, for we cannot expect him to be completely healthy.

>> No.16827612

>>16827528
kill yourself you fucking idiot

>> No.16827813

>>16827605
The purpose of a gun is to shoot someone but if I beat someone to death with it I'm not "using it incorrectly"
>>16827612
Suck my dick

>> No.16827859

>>16827813
I'm afraid I don't quite understand how that analogy translates to our topic.

>> No.16827902

Some people seem to be so against masturbation due to the guilt and secrecy that they have built up by doing it over the years. They never wanked themself off in a coomtastic manner. They don't know masturbation. they know of quickly relieving themselves and making a nasty mess. You can't stop wanking so why don't you wank yourself into tantric masturbatory oblivion?

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>>16827813
>Why yes, I beat bitches to death with my penis, how could you tell?

>> No.16827989

>>16827102
>The nofapper is disciplined
>This discipline leads to courage
>courage leads to strength
>strength leads to kingliness
>kingliness leads to happiness
>the nofapper is happy.
Tantric coomkeeper gets the best of both worlds plus doubled carpal tunnel.

>> No.16827996

Every single motherfucker on this website is absolutely OBSESSED with sex.

It's pretty pathetic. Is it because you're all virgins?

>> No.16828014

>>16827859
The archer practices with his bow without firing it at anyone.

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>>16817863
I’m going to say that Newton probably did masturbate. Isaac Newton made a list of his sins against God when he was 18. One of them was that that he had unclean thoughts, actions and dreams. If you interpret unclean actions to mean masturbation than he probably did.

>> No.16828037

>No one on this earth will touch you unless you pay money for it
>BUT DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH YOURSELF!

Man, I'm so sick and fucking tired of this bullshit desert slave morality.

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>>16817711
Wow, Marty was a philosopher.

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>> No.16828107

>>16827989
I agree, but I do not usually bring that up because it is considered schizophrenic to believe in semen retention.

>>16828014
When an archer knows how to perform archery, what need does he have for practice?

>> No.16828111

>>16828107
You have to practice A LOT to get good at archery.

>> No.16828125

>>16828111
Please pay attention. When an archer knows how to perform archery, what need does he have for practice?

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>>16817878
Isaac Newton was not an occultist! He would have been highly offended by someone calling him that. He was an extremely religious man. He was a Christian, but not conventional one since he rejected the trinity because he considered it a pagan corruption of Christianity.

>> No.16828430

Fellas, at what length of time do you regrow your virginity?
Asking for a friend

>> No.16828433

>>16817711
Nah thoreau could smash Alcott whenver he wanted bro

>> No.16828444

>>16824963
There was a guy in college he had sexual thoughts about, or something.

>> No.16828478

>>16828430
2 months

>> No.16828662

>>16827332
Your whole discourse reminded of "boyz n the hood". Have you seen it?

>> No.16828670

>>16825310
Why would you use a white background on that image man.

>> No.16828687

>>16828017
This is so cute. Post more.

>> No.16828998

>>16820012
Absolutely assblasted right now.

>> No.16829017

>>16817875
>being smart means you fuck more

Are you serious

>> No.16829037

>>16826925
>Monkey in captivity
Huh....

>> No.16829046

>>16829037
Wat means

>> No.16829066

>>16827813
Pretty much this. I would even say that there is no objective function to anything, it's just something humans invent for practical and pragmatic reasons.
People build houses from mud, that doesnt mean thats its function, it's just dirt that was created from natural processes.
Evolution doesnt care how I use my penis, because its not a being with a will, it's an abstract process, there is no moral dimension to it.

>> No.16829445

>>16829037
Arent we all, in this figurative prison?

>> No.16829853

>>16829066
Evolution seems to care plenty, since it favours the fittest of the pack. Hence, the way you use your penis may be a matter of life and death.

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>>16829066

>> No.16829999

>>16829853
Stroking your dick is now "a matter of life and death" lmao
>>16829985
Take your meds kent

>> No.16830027

>>16818241
This isn't 19th century though. Very few people have the means to marry at 20.

>> No.16830031

>>16817711
he's right though even tho he lived like 100 years ago.
In my case I was just autistic during high school, a loner during uni and right now I'm on a 2 year NEET strike. 2020 was the final nail in the coffin of my young life.
t.26 kv
>>16817756
even Kant was a perma virgin but this is just coping mental gymnastics
>>16825310
I can't believe I missed this thread fml
>>16829037
based

>> No.16830103

>>16818097
Father beat me relentlessly.
I’ve never had a gf and can’t talk to girls.
Not very masculine.
Masturbating since age 10, now 21.
Fell into the incel crowd back in the r9k days.
Hate women.
But really I just want one but I can’t for the life of me figure out how to become a man.
Decide that I’ll just become the girl instead and please a man and be loved.
This effect is powered up by deep issues with my own father who showed no love, and my mother who was never around.
Waste $300 on makeup, clothes, drugs, wig, nail polish, lingerie and a dildo.
After I ejaculate I feel immense pleasure I haven’t felt in forever since regular stuff won’t do the job anymore.

45 mins later I break down in tears.

Mentally I haven’t recovered, I’m glad I didn’t sleep with a guy or anything. I won’t project my issues on anyone here But I’ve been drowning heavily in escapism, that’s slowly preparing me for suicide. I just want to be loved. I just want a family, friends, a lover just things everyone else gets to have. I don’t know what to do. And the more depressed I get the more I come back to this stuff but recently sissy hypno is kinda not doing the job anymore. I don’t want to go further though. I just want to be happy.

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>> No.16830421

>>16830158
We should round up everyone who doesn't have a gf and go to an island where its illegal to have sex.

>> No.16830441

>>16817841
>shall their UNSHED virtue
He's talking about something that's UNSHED, not something that's been shed. The semen of a masturbator has been shed therefore your interpretation doesn't make sense.
If he's talking about something UNSHED, then in this instance, he's definitely talking about virginity when talking about virtue, not semen. Indeed, in the very same quote, he talks about how virginity in women is virtuous and so there's an association between virginity and virtue right from the get-go.

>> No.16830746

>>16819243
You have too much pride and ego and you are innately aware of how much a woman could hurt you.

>> No.16830826

>>16817875
Acne fucks a nigga up like no other

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International Men's Day yesterday. None of you drainbows mentioned it. SEE MEN.

>> No.16831556

>>16830103
>Not very masculine
Not him, what do you mean, lad?
I wanna know if I'm masculine myself.

>> No.16831589

>>16831556
>>16830103
Forget it. Now I think I get it:
>Waste $300 on makeup, clothes, drugs, wig, nail polish, lingerie and a dildo.
Compared to you, I'm masculine as fuck.
Kek

>> No.16831607

>>16817965
you can get laid brother. your height can be overcome, don’t blame that there are too many counter-examples. lets go!!

>> No.16831612

>>16830826
>Acne fucks a nigga up like no other
Take the Bukowski-pill. Go for the fatties.

>> No.16831672

>>16817711
I don't see much wrong with what he said. It doesn't apply to everyone but the main point to me is that you have to have a certain vision of the world to be able to judge effectively. This is part of Emerson's vision.
Even if I wouldn't agree with him, I still prefer this to some sort of relativistic nonsense. Come up front with your opinions and live by them. That's all there's to it.

>>16817743
Because some things are naturally more sought in women and some things are naturally sought in men.

>> No.16831693

Honestly, I'm repulsed by the thought of having sex with someone who isn't your soulmate. I'd have sex with my sister but it's degeneracy. And all other soulmates I have are all guys.

>> No.16831795

>>16830103
Friend, you can be loved! But you have to stop debasing yourself. Understand that your parents truly fucked you up, and that you'll need some help to get un-fucked.

A psychiatrist to balance your emotions and keep a stable mood, a psychologist to talk through the pain and reframe it so it doesn't kill you inside. If you can find a psychiatrist that does talk therapy, even better!

Also, read some of the stoics while the medications start to take hold - 2 or 3 months. Marcus Arelius, or Seneca the Younger. Get a quote book. You need to reset your executive functioning, and this philosophy teaches discipline, which is what you need most.

You will need to make changes, daily, and improve yourself incrementally. You will build self worth and confidence.

I had totally fucked up parents, spent 3 stints institutionalized. I'm 35 now though, wife, kids, great career... HAPPY!

You are my friend and you can do this.

>> No.16831863

>>16830103
Post your discord. I wanna talk to you.

>> No.16831932

>>16817711
This is a fake Emerson quotre. Imagine having a thread with over 100 posters over a made up Emerson quote. Holy shit. The absolute state of /lit/ in 2020.
This fake and gay statement is completely incompatible with Self-Reliance (1841), Emerson's best work.

>> No.16832293

>>16819444
>wagner
>genius

>> No.16833447

>>16828662
no, I have not. I seldom watch movies.

>> No.16834047

>>16830746
>You have too much pride and ego
that's not true
>are innately aware of how much a woman could hurt you
who isn't?

>> No.16834197

>>16817711
>the chad virgin thoreau vs the virgin chad emerson

>> No.16834332

>>16834047
>that's not true
It is true, but it is an inverted sense of pride. You have an underlying narcissism that gives you a fragile ego. Hence your fear women is essentially you seeing them as active and severe threats to said ego.

>> No.16834393 [DELETED] 

>>16833447
>no, I have not. I seldom watch movies.
Well, this one you should. Is a good movie. Not life-changing, but a good one.
And its view is interestily similar to yours.
The movie is a bit too preachy about the use of codoms sometimes but it is still well-intentioned (Keep in mind it was made not too many years after the arise of aids).
Also, It's cool seeing how the blacks not so many decades ago were trying and teaching self-reliance, parental responsability and change from "within" in their communities.
Even more notable is its view about black on black violence, to what they ascribe the biggest part of their violent deaths.
(A pretty red-pilled take in times of black-lives-matter, if you ask me)
As a bonus is worthy noticing from where GTA San Andreas got part of its "aesthetics". I bet the movie was in its visual reference list. Lol

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>>16833447
>no, I have not. I seldom watch movies.
Well, this one you should. Is a good movie. Not life-changing, but a good one.
And its view is interestily similar to yours.
The movie is a bit too preachy about the use of codoms sometimes but it is still well-intentioned (Keep in mind it was made not too many years after the arise of aids).
Also, It's cool seeing how the blacks not so many decades ago were trying and teaching self-reliance, parental responsability and change from "within" in their communities.
Even more notable is its view about black on black violence, to what they ascribe the biggest part of their violent deaths.
(A pretty red-pilled take in times of black-lives-matter, if you ask me)
As a bonus is worthy noticing from where GTA San Andreas got part of its "aesthetics". I bet the movie was in its visual reference list. Lol

>> No.16834441

>>16817711
>spending time out of your life writing about how young men don’t use their dicks often enough
How GAY WAS this guy?!?! He literally could have wrote a paragraph about boobies but instead chose to write this.
>NO! No! Use Ir dick moar lol yum but women should stay virgins!
I’d he wanted men to have more sex but women to stay virgins.... I’m afraid that math only adds up to GAY

>> No.16834493

>>16834441
Well 2 anons responded to the same question
Interpretation 1: A small caste of prostitutes that would "take care" of the problem.
Interpretation 2:It was more about marriage than the sex itself

>> No.16834776

>>16826925
Its common for animals to behave abnormally when in captivity, so this webm means nothing. Also, monkeys throw shit at each other. Does that mean there is nothing wrong with humans throwing shit?

>> No.16836006

>>16834776
My dick, my rules, nigga.

>> No.16836284

>>16825495
nope. never ever had one. used to fap starting young but only once every 1-2 weeks, didn't seem like a problem. starting doing it every day at around 18. decided it was bad and realised it gave me nothing -- literally no reason to do it, only early conditioning in life made it an 'urge'. resolved to stop, stopped without issue. i don't masturbate at all much less to porn. though i do have sex with my gf, before then i hadn't coomed at all for like 2 years and never had problem. simply because i never thought of it as resisting 'urges' rather discarding the maladaptive conditioning of a sickly society. i don't do casual sex, seems icky and socially destructive.

>> No.16836303

>>16827013
>literally impotent coomer LARPing as a virile conqueror
why do they do this whenever you call them out on their slavehood?
women can smell the coom and hormonal imbalance on you friend

>> No.16836315

>>16817875
romantic ideals nigga

>> No.16836321

>>16827064
>consequencies of stop fapping
yes goy sexualising literally everything and frying your brain with porn to the point you find children and inanimate objects arousing is totally better than being in control of yourself and capable of contexts that aren't sexual. the only people who rape are sexual deviants which is what every porn addict becomes, just ask trannies

>> No.16836454

>>16836315
Define "romantic ideals" for me.

>> No.16836461

>>16836321
Did rape exist before porn? Or not?

>> No.16836507

>>16818118
based & correct take

>> No.16836528

>>16819037
absolutely based

>> No.16836536
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>>16819160
this made me sad
wanna talk about it?

>> No.16836615

>>16834197
underrated

>> No.16836643

>>16818147
Because men >>> women, that's it basically

>> No.16836648

>>16818307
Underrated

>> No.16838038

>>16826421
lol no

>> No.16838460

>>16825419
Imagine being a grown man and giving a shit about what women think is worthy.