/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.16812655]

What have you been reading and how you like it Edition

Previous Thread: >>16799897

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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[Anonymous No.16812673]

Rythm of War edition

[Anonymous No.16812717]

>>16812655
Finished Rhythm of War, enjoyed it enough but some thoughts.
Adolin had the best parts and needed more focus. I don't care about Kaladin's second-sixth fight with the Pursuer. Also Sanderson has to vary up the plot structure next time because it retreads a lot of the same beats from the previous novels, though this time it wasn't as impactful. Too many threads that couldn't converge well enough together in the end, especially the weird disconnect Dalinar's storyline had with everything else. Only scene that got me was when Maya spoke, but even that reminded me of Dalinar's climactic scene in Oathbringer.
A lot of chaff could have been removed but I liked it.

[Anonymous No.16812768]

>>16812655
After bitching about OP content for quite possibly years, I'm genuinely pleased with the current state of /sffg/ OPs.

[Anonymous No.16812784]

>>16812717
Oh also dialogue is still too modern for my tastes. I want weird medieval speak, not speech taken from a college student in New York.

[Anonymous No.16812789]

Damn that ending felt pretty bleak for a Sanderson book.

[Anonymous No.16812799]

So is the new odium actually evil or is he just playing the long game?

[Anonymous No.16812822]

>>16812784
"Weird medieval speak" is a fucking chore to read

[Anonymous No.16812872]

the virgin sanderfag
> fanfiction-tier prose
> not at all challenging, mind-numbing drivel
> characters with names like Dalinar and Rysn (literally)
> basic, workmanlike worldbuilding
> YA-tier levels of moral "complexity"
> set in a basically generic fantasy world that does not question the limits of its genre in any way
> author is a Mormon hack
> features token minorities and trannies to boost public accessibility and sales
vs. the Bakkerchad
> glorious baroque prose inspired by Tolkien, Lovecraft and the Old Testament
> extremely morally grey, challenging and unsettling
> cool, unusual character names like Varalt Sorweel II, Anasurimbôr Kellhus Ikurei Conphas
> turns every fantasy trope on its head, causes the reader to question every other fantasy novel he's read before
> examines world history with a deep and knowing eye; filled with references to other literature
> author is a philosophy PhD, inserts frequent references to high-tier philosophical discourse into characters' dialogue
> based and redpilled, makes no effort to cater to SJW politics
> bleak, feverishly grimdark and violent, still sprinkled with fleeting sparks of hope and humanity
> muh rape aliens
> muh Dûnyain
> muh Isterebinth
> muh No-God

[Anonymous No.16812873]

>>16812822
>>16812784
>“I should esteem myself fortunate, were it in my power to contribute to making your abode agreeable. I am well known at Madrid, and my family has some interest at court. If I can be of any service, you cannot honour or oblige me more than by permitting me to be of use to you.”—“Surely,” said he to himself, “she cannot answer that by a monosyllable; now she must say something to me.”
>Lorenzo was deceived, for the lady answered only by a bow.
I thought The Monk, by Matthew Lewis, did it well.

[Anonymous No.16812889]

>>16812872
I tried Prince of Nothing and dropped it eventually after it never moved on from telling a story about a meandering washed up cuck. I don't know why fantasy writers find that to be such a compelling character. Does he have any books with likable characters? If I wanted monotony and mediocrity I wouldn't be reading fantasy novels.

[Anonymous No.16812898]

>>16812889
you quit too soon anon, you missed all the good stuff. yes one of the MCs is a washed up cuck who always gets the short end of the stick, but that's part of his appeal. i found the autistic human supercomputer - turned - false prophet - turned God-Emperor to be one of the most interesting characters i've ever encountered in scifi/fantasy.

[Anonymous No.16812901]

>>16812799
Sound like there's not much difference in purpose, he wants to conquer the Cosmere like the previous one did but is not nearly as set in his way

[Anonymous No.16812927]

>>16812655
>(Look here before asking for vague recs)

This is a good addition to the OP post.

At this point, I'm just going to go to used bookstores and look around for stuff I would have never found otherwise.

If you guys know any good used bookstores in Chicago that are fantasy-friendly, let me know.

I'll just need to put on my bulletproof vest before going outside.

[Anonymous No.16812928]

Just finished ROW this afternoon, why did Sanderson suddenly go balls deep on the crossover? Why is it that characters only care for a paragraph or two when they find out there are other planets? Why did we spend half the book on Venli flashbacks when we already knew how that story went? Why were there so many loose ends? What was the point of everyone going to Shadesmar if literally the only two people there who mattered were Shallan and Adolin?
Is he, in fact, a hack?

[Anonymous No.16812931]

>>16812784
Examples?

[Anonymous No.16812935]

>>16812928
>Just finished ROW this afternoon, why did Sanderson suddenly go balls deep on the crossover? Why is it that characters only care for a paragraph or two when they find out there are other planets
I mean considering everything that happened the past year for them they're probably jaded

[Anonymous No.16812957]

I'm reading unicorn variations

the stories are definitely... different. zelazny kinda gets high on his farts though, and some of them are so zany and twisty that it gives me "dwight robbing tiffany's" vibes.

[Anonymous No.16812959]

>>16812928
I haven't read RoW yet so I don't know exact examples (only read the first bit of your post) but Stormlight Archives was always going to be the most 'Cosmere-important' series.
Also consider he'll likely be dead before completing the entire Cosmere at this point lel

[Anonymous No.16812978]

>>16812959
Sanderson has a 20-30 year estimate set for finishing his books
And he's cheating

[Anonymous No.16813214]

>>16812655
>Finished Rhythm of War
wtf how did you nerds read 1200 pages in less than a day? did you skip your least favorite character's chapters?

[Anonymous No.16813225]

>>16813214
Book was out online early sunday

[Anonymous No.16813232]

>>16813214
somebody here had the mega link about 3 days back, coupled with the fact that reading sanderson does not expend much effort, and hence the discussions.

[Anonymous No.16813251]

>>16813214
>pirated book on my phone at 8am yesterday morning Australia time
>spent most of work that day reading, stopped at midnight
>kept reading between 8am-2pm the next day at work
>won't get fired for this because I work for the government

[Anonymous No.16813274]

Fuck Moash & fuck Kelsier

[Anonymous No.16813281]

>>16813274
t. (((Wit)))

[Anonymous No.16813283]

Now what's the next step of his master plan?

[Anonymous No.16813308]

>>16813281
AND FUCK SHALLAN

[Anonymous No.16813371]

>>16812655
Bros, I'm writing a fantasy book. What do you think about this?
Goblins = joos.
Orcs = joggers.
Orc immigration to human cities driven by goblins.

[Anonymous No.16813395]

Chateau Cascade continues to be good.

[Anonymous No.16813423]

>>16813371
Sounds like a nice novel about an upstanding youth trying to get their foot in the door as a tradie.

[Anonymous No.16813472]

>>16812872
>>16812889
>>16812898
Just finished the first book. Was okay and definitely one of the better fantasy settings so far.

But it always annoys me, when an author has to find shitty excuses so that some plot points happen- or don’t happen.
Like he spends so much time on who should lead the crusade. They have two, obviously bad choices and there is no explanation why it shouldn’t be just a random third general. They have the largest host in god knows how many years assembled to fight a holy war and they spend almost a year deciding between a guy who would backstab all of them the first chance he gets. Or one barbaric unbeliever who’s only motivation besides kellhus is raping and killing.

And when Cnaiür walks with kellhus from his camp, he knows exactly that by the end of the track kellhus will kill him.
Of course, this doesn’t happen. But it was the only logical possibility by the time of departure.

And the important meeting between Achamian and Esmi at the end?
>He looks at her, lost in thought and doesn’t recognize her.
>She looks at him and couldn’t utter a single word, then runs away crying.
How tragic! What a shame that this important reunion didn’t happen. See you next book!

And finally, Achamian of course doesn’t notify his order of his discoveries. Sure, the order waited for 300 years and this news is essentially the only reason they even exit. And he even realises that this might be the beginning of the second apocalypse and the order are the only people who could help him fight it.
But they were also mean to him in the past. So better not tell them anything and let the face eaters do whatever they are doing besides eating faces. Good plan.

Still I liked the book, just a bit too much unnecessary bullshit for me.

[Anonymous No.16813512]

Anyone who has finished the Viriconium novels, please tell me the last story in the omnibus (Lamia and Lord Cromis) is better than the middle two and it's back to cool adventures like The Pastel City.
Currently reading In Viriconium and it's been a chore. I don't care for any of the characters or their problems. The setting feels like it's not even the same place. The ohh, weird bad trips and plague or some shit has been too much (the second novel was 90% that). Even the register is entirely different. From locations like Minat-Saba and The Circuit Road to shit like "Margarethstrasse" and "Montrouge". Jesus Fucking Christ. A couple of painters, some clowns, artist's circles. What the fuck does this have to do with sword and sorcery. It reads like a poor Gormenghast fanfiction at this point.

[Anonymous No.16813544]

>>16813472
I felt similarly. The author clearly has the grand trajectory in mind, and the scope of the world and its history and events are suitably compelling. But it is the A to B to C stuff that often feels a bit wonky.

[Anonymous No.16813625]

>>16813395
You're mom was better

[Anonymous No.16813665]

>>16813512
sorry anon, viriconium nights is an anthology of mostly seen-before characters focussing on the viriconium. If you did not like the preceding books, then you would definitely not like this one, despite it containing some s&s stories, it is mostly bohemian and outsiders musing over the city

[Anonymous No.16813691]

>>16813665
Shit. At least the first book was nice. Maybe I'll read that tegeus Cromis story to find out what's with his edge.
Guess I'll reread Vance or Wolfe then. Know of any unique dying earth stuff with a similar feel?

[Anonymous No.16813717]

I liked The Red Knight's parts about tilting at dragons and other kind mercenary stuff.
Every other part of the series was absolute garbage though, are there any books that capture the fun parts of the red knight?

[Anonymous No.16813730]

>>16813691
if you've read vance already, try ca smith's zothique cycle. i have planned on reading the others in the pic related, read the house on the borderlands by hodgson and will read the night land after.
Also, you can try one of these from grrm
windhaven
>The planet of Windhaven was not originally a home to humans, but it became one following the crash of a colony starship. It is a world of small islands, harsh weather, and monster-infested seas. Communication among the scattered settlements was virtually impossible until the discovery that, thanks to light gravity and a dense atmosphere, humans were able to fly with the aid of metal wings made of bits of the cannibalized spaceship.

dying of the light
>The novel takes place on the planet of Worlorn, a world which is dying. It is a rogue planet whose erratic course is taking it irreversibly away from its neighboring stars into a region of cold and dark space where no life will survive. Worlorn's 14 cities, built during a brief window when the world passed close enough to a red giant star to permit life to thrive, are dying, too. Constructed to celebrate the diverse cultures of 14 planetary systems, they have largely been abandoned, allowing their systems and maintenance to fail.

[Anonymous No.16813753]

>>16812784
I find anachronistic seeming dialog to be the most forgivable parts of his writing considering he does it purposefully. I still find myself wincing at some of the more obvious modern english "slang" sort of speech.
I really liked the book overall. I agree Adolin's parts were best (I even enjoyed Shallan's somewhat shallow arc, but it further confirms my pet theory that Shallan was always the "broken soulcaster", but I assumed she deadeye'd Pattern and not another cryptic )
Kaladin's arc did feel like a retread, but I still liked it well enough and enjoyed the first proper demonstration of Radiant shardplate in battle
Navani's arc was probably second-favorite if for no better reason than her interactions with Raboniel and how she setup a nice schism among the fused
Dalinar's arc did feel somewhat disjointed from the rest of the story, but I appreciated how it escalated the conflict with Odium and Taravangian pulling a fast one on Rayse was some shit I never would've predicted.
So can we finally confirm that the Ghostblood's are run by Kelsier? "He of Scars" or whatever it was? A terriswoman kicking off the true desolation by giving Venli the gem with Ulim in it?

[Anonymous No.16813761]

>>16813214
Started Saturday night. Finished this morning.
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.16813794]

>>16813753
The Taravagian stuff was great
>tfw "to that day and that embrace"

[Anonymous No.16813829]

>>16813794
How fucked is Hoid right now? Sounds like he's being sidelined by a cosminc Groundhog Day. Also his weird obsession with ol' Queen Neverputsout? Sanderson really is the king of answering questions that only give you more questions.

[Anonymous No.16813879]

>>16812872
Tell me Bakker is actually this good and this isn't just a meme. This all sounds amazing.

[Anonymous No.16813913]

>>16813274
>>16813308
AND I GET TO FUCK JASNAH!

[Anonymous No.16813929]

>>16813371
Maybe they should be immigrating to elven cities and so they must cross the sacred rivers in stolen human boats. But since orcs can't swim, most of them get eaten by the river dragons lovingly tended by the elves for just such a purpose.

[Anonymous No.16813932]

>>16813829
I don't think it was anything more than a way to erase the immediate memories of the discussion he had with Hoid, so they would not suspect Rayse is dead.

[Anonymous No.16813970]

What's odds on Lift having her own aviar now and being OP forever?

[Anonymous No.16813975]

>>16812655
Is Weaveworld by Clive Barker worth reading? Have any of you guys read it?

[Anonymous No.16814010]

>>16813975
I remember starting it, not being impressed, and putting it down, but I was coming off reading his horror stuff (which I liked) and didn't really give it a chance.

[Anonymous No.16814014]

>>16812822
unless it's seriously overdone it's still better than sanderspeak. it varies too much by pov but some of them sound genuinely horrible. as if he let his 14 year old daughter weigh in on half of it. and I find his use of italics to emphasize dialogue appalling

[Anonymous No.16814028]

>>16814014
I think this is the first sample of Sanderson writing that I've read and it hurts a little. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.16814036]

>>16813512
Storm of wings and luck in the head were amazing. I'm sorry you feel that way anon

[Anonymous No.16814039]

>>16814014
Now I understand why he writes to fast.

[Anonymous No.16814043]

>>16814014
>it varies too much by pov
Which keeps his much maligned "prose" from being samey. I don't see what the issue is, I like it better than the average third-person omniscient.
>but some of them sound genuinely horrible as if he let his 14 year old daughter weigh in on half of it. and I find his use of italics to emphasize dialogue appalling
>thedudeglaringoverhissunglassesatyou.mkv

[Anonymous No.16814055]

>>16814028
It's much better in context when you know Herdazians are the Mexicans and not Australians of Roshar, though they do have some Strayan tendencies to dumbfuckery.

[Anonymous No.16814060]

>>16814039
For reference, this is one part of the full size novel he wrote between finishing RoW and it being published on Tuesday.

[Anonymous No.16814062]

>>16813975
I read 2/3 and DNF, it's mostly people driving around rainy England.

[Anonymous No.16814065]

>>16814043
in the end you willingly read his bad prose just because it's "supposed to be bad". it's like enjoying rothfuss cuckold fiction because the narrator is intentionally unreliable. like you're still reading his dnd self insert, regardless of if it's intended to be over the top or not

[Anonymous No.16814070]

>>16814055
What? I have no fucking clue what that means, anon.

[Anonymous No.16814072]

Friendly reminder that HONOR IS NOT DEAD SO LONG AS HE LIVES IN THE HEARTS OF MEN!

[Anonymous No.16814077]

>>16814070
That's why it's better in context.

[Anonymous No.16814083]

>>16814070
it means "it's cringe but it fits the context" aka it's intentionally bad

[Anonymous No.16814100]

any books about humans waging wars against machines?

[Anonymous No.16814105]

>>16814100
No

[Anonymous No.16814119]

>>16814105
:(

[Anonymous No.16814201]

>we never got to see Rayse and Hoid interact in person after a decade of buildup
What a fucking hack

[Anonymous No.16814243]

>>16814201
Shouldn't there be a cognitive shadow of him somewhere after his godly self died ?

[Anonymous No.16814302]

Kelsier is so based. Saving two fantasy sagas by himself.

[Anonymous No.16814350]

>>16814243
No, because Nightblood eats souls.

[Anonymous No.16814431]

>>16814100
I actually thought Brian Herbert's Butlerian Jihad trilogy was pretty good for this. Also I was 12 when I read it. Make of that what you will.

[Anonymous No.16814480]

>>16814431
>Brian Herbert

[Anonymous No.16814496]

>>16814431

[Anonymous No.16814500]

>>16814350
That sounds... a bit evil.

[Anonymous No.16814510]

>>16814480
>>16814496
Yes that's right. If all you want is a pretty brainless action book of man vs machine this does that. You can even pretend it's not related to Dune.

[Anonymous No.16814659]

>>16813975
Its my favorite book of all time.

[Anonymous No.16814700]

The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny are really, really good. How did Sapkowski fuck up the main saga (Witcher) so badly?

[Anonymous No.16815058]

>>16814065
And in the end your opinion is subjective and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

[Anonymous No.16815086]

>>16815058
reddit moment

[Anonymous No.16815108]

>>16815086
Explain what that is and why you would know that. I really don't even know.

[Anonymous No.16815119]

What's Cultivations endgame? Why did She make a smarter and more dangerous Odium?

[Anonymous No.16815127]

>>16815108
There's no such thing as a subjective opinion, there's what I think and what retarded trannies think, and you picked the wrong option.
also your post has the disgusting stink of the kind of "umm, actually" smugness that only a redditor exudes.

[Anonymous No.16815140]

>>16815119
>A garden only needs one gardener

[Anonymous No.16815146]

>>16815127
>There's no such thing as a subjective opinion
based retard

[Anonymous No.16815150]

>>16815146
Please don't respond to newfags.

[Anonymous No.16815151]

>>16814700
He didn't know how to actually write a novel, and he only learned how to do that as he progressed through the Saga (if I remember correctly, he was an economist, so Blood of Elves was likely his first ever attempt at producing a novel-length work). I suspect that he didn't know how his strengths/weaknesses would apply to novels, either. Its why the Hussite Trilogy is so much better; by then, he was used to producing novel-length works, and was able to choose a genre (picaresque) which fit his strengths as a storyteller (characterization, individual scenes).

[Anonymous No.16815160]

>>16815150
Seethe.

[Anonymous No.16815416]

Since Sanderson has dropped who do you think will be released next?
Patrick Rothfuss?
George RR Martin?
Scott Lynch?
E William Brown?

[Anonymous No.16815432]

>>16813879
He’s really good, but there are a lot of “really, man? Why put that in there’ moments.

[Anonymous No.16815459]

>>16815416
I'm thinkign gurm is dropping from a heart attack next.

[Anonymous No.16815485]

I just finished house of chains, should I refer to that flowchart in the OP for where I go next, or should I just fuck off to another series? Thinking about trying something else, been on malazan for a few months now. Don't want it to get too stale.
Considering moving to The Book of the New Sun, The Prince of Nothing, or a random sci Fi that a coworker recommended me a while back called Blood Music.

[Anonymous No.16815489]

>>16815416
Sanderson's dropping at least one more, maybe two, before any one of them gets their next release.

[Anonymous No.16815497]

>its a Rikke chapter

[Anonymous No.16815534]

>tfw no goth emo gf to snuggle with
Why live?

[Anonymous No.16815543]

Which one of you is this? https://www.reddit.com/r/DanielBlack/comments/jhmgnn/the_daniel_black_series_has_ruined_most_fantasy/

[Anonymous No.16815673]

I've finally decided to read the Silmarillion, and I have a question about Elves.
So when they get killed, they spend a bit of time in the Halls of Mandos, then can be reincarnated with their memories intact and in a body that looks like them right? Doesn't that mean everyone from Feanor's father to Fingolfin is partying in paradise in Valinor in very physical bodies? Why was Feanor so angry at Morgoth when he killed his dad if he knew he was coming back in like a decade or so? Or was he mostly just pissed that his Silmarils were took. And Elf on Elf violence is always emphasized as an evil act, but those elves are coming right back in a while or so.

[Anonymous No.16815761]

>>16812978
>Sanderson has a 20-30 year estimate set for finishing his books
One of the greatest gifts of Mormon Heaven is an eternity of Sanderson novels.

[Anonymous No.16815885]

Are ya done reading RoW son ?

[Anonymous No.16816009]

>>16815885
I leaked it and I haven't even began Dawnshard!

[Anonymous No.16816135]

>>16816009
Too slow. Sandershsgfdhdhrcson has now finished volume 5, 6 and 7 of the Stormlight Archive and is now writing the second sequel to WoT.

[Anonymous No.16816209]

>>16816009
Huh? I leaked it.

[Anonymous No.16816225]

>>16816135
I weep for all the wasted trees, paper and manufacturing effort this one hack alone has caused.

[Anonymous No.16816498]

>>16816135
>is now writing the second sequel to WoT.
>more non-Cosmere nobody asked for
The most believable part.

[Anonymous No.16816596]

>>16812655
Fuck Sanderfag
Fuck Tolkshit
Fuck Rothfuck
I'm right and you are all wrong if you disagree with me

[Anonymous No.16816640]

>>16816596
No Martin?
No Conan?
No Elric?

[Anonymous No.16816676]

>>16816596
>say YEAAAAAAAAH

[Anonymous No.16817055]

Are there any fantasy books that you guys would describe as "ethereal" to read?

Like, it gives you that feeling you get when you look at a huge church or something.

[Anonymous No.16817164]

>>16814105
Mean, seriously

[Anonymous No.16817198]

This is the first time I've felt embarrassed for an author whilst reading a book.

> Lopen is somehow almost as bad as Lift?
> TFW Rysn is just Shallan reskinned
> He uses literally like a teenage white girl

[Anonymous No.16817203]

>>16817198
same. his writing somehow becomes more juvenile and amateurish with every entry in this series

[Anonymous No.16817211]

>>16812889
Did you just happen forgot about kellhus and how you got to read that niggas POV? Nigga are you retarded? Also you were just about to get to ikurei xerius and right after that cnuir, aka some cool ass shit. And show some fucking respect to akka dude, esmi litteraly a whore and bro can’t help loving that sweet piece of ass (she’s like a 9.9/10) also at least he FUCKS unlike /lit/s other favorite cuck, kvothe.
Tldr just stick with it bro you’ll get back to those juicy kellhus povs in no time

[Anonymous No.16817239]

>>16817198
In what way is Lopen as bad as Lift ?

[Anonymous No.16817260]

>>16817055
Gormenghast books
Once and Future King
New Sun, and certain parts of Long Sun that are especially Dickensian and Chestertonian.

[Anonymous No.16817261]

>>16817239
See >>16814014
At least he doesn't call flying his 'awesomeness'

[Anonymous No.16817271]

>>16817261
Ok, but why is this bad?

[Anonymous No.16817289]

Anons is there any modern science fiction that you liked? I would like to read something futuristic with space travel.
If possible "robots", AI, contact with intelligent life.. I do not know, I feel that today there must be a good ones with everything we know in science, right? ...I don't like time travels btw

[Anonymous No.16817297]

>>16817271
The entire character is what a 12 year old quirky kid thinks humour is.

Unrealistic/childish dialogue detracts from the novel and pulls me out of the story.

What does this sort of character add for you? Do you like the way Lopen is? If so, why?

[Anonymous No.16817355]

>>16817211
>kvothe
makes me laff because it reminds me of covfefe

[Anonymous No.16817438]

>>16817297
>The entire character is what a 12 year old quirky kid thinks humour is.
That's not an argument.

>Unrealistic/childish dialogue detracts from the novel and pulls me out of the story.
How does the tone of this particular scene clashes with the rest of the novel ? In general SA is an optimistic story that allows for levity in some places. And it's pointed out later in the novel that Lopen usually tries go cheer everyone up with jokes and stuff. Now I don't think the jokes are knee-slappingly funny either but they're still coherent with the setting and the character. Now if a more serious character like Dalinar started making quips similar to Lift and the Lopen for no good reason I wouldn't like it because as a reader I like to be surprised but I also like to read something that makes sense within the universe of the book. In this case it's alright because we're familiar enough with Lopen's personality and we know that at this point of the story there is no dramatic tension that would risk to be broken. Later in Dawnshard when there is mortal danger around him he still jokes but takes the situation seriously.

I admit I cringed a bit in RoW with some of Kalak's dialog though.

[Anonymous No.16817458]

>>16815459
kek

[Anonymous No.16817476]

Five chapters in. Is it good?

[Anonymous No.16817501]

>>16817438
>That's not an argument.
My implied argument is that he's trying to make the character funny but is failing.

I'd not actually argue it clashes TOO badly. I think the lighter nature of SA makes the character more bearable than if he existed in LOTR for instance.

However, I hate this kind of character and would hate them in any context. The jokes don't land and the failed jokes exist in (nearly) everything Lopen says. Since his personality doesn't add humour (IMO), what does it add? Weird fart joke level immersion breaks is all I'm getting from it.

Not read RoW yet, debating whether or not I should succumb to the sunk cost fallacy.

How is it compared to the first 3? I found the full novels more enjoyable than the novellas.

[Anonymous No.16817503]

>>16817476
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.16817552]

>>16817501
Less Shallan than in book 3.
Way less Dalinar
Navani, Kaladin, Venli and Adolin are probably what you'd call this book's MC
If you enjoy the magitek aspect of the series you'd like a large part of the book, if you don't care about it it'll probably be a bore.

In general I found it better than 3. Usually if I want to reread books with several POV I'd skip a couple ones, on this one I would probably not do it (immediatly).

[Anonymous No.16817609]

>>16817552
Sounds gd! I like that MC except Venli

The magitek is very skim readable so no prob.

I've enjoyed reading the mainline novels so far - I'll give it a crack

[Anonymous No.16817671]

>>16817552
>Less Shallan than in book 3
How much less is less?
I dropped the series because he increased Shallan in book 3 instead of cutting her.

[Anonymous No.16817815]

>>16812655
I loved the first two stormlight archive books, but I felt that a lot of slack got into Oathbringer, it sorta lost its tighter focus
did Rhythm of War tighten it back down or is it looser like oathbringer?

[Anonymous No.16817838]

>>16817671
not included in parts 2 and 3 at all, too high in part 1, tolerable in parts 4 and 5

[Anonymous No.16817852]

>>16817671
I actually really liked book 2 shallan, it's just book 3 shallan that was annoying to me

[Anonymous No.16817894]

>>16817815
oathbringer suffered from too much shallan, and the plot did not advance much overall. with row on the other hand, the plot advances considerably in many directions: the nature of light, ending sequence and a larger role of worldhoppers; you can see where the series is going somewhat. With book 5 being the last for arc 1 and books 6-10 picking up after a couple of centuries that would overlap with space-age mistborn, it is inevitable that roshar gets fucked.

[Anonymous No.16817989]

What's the final boss of fantasy literature?

[Anonymous No.16818026]

>>16817989
inb4 wheel of time

[Anonymous No.16818058]

So the ghostbloods are basically trying to become the ExxonMobil of the cosmere right?

[Anonymous No.16818206]

Read sword and sorcery.

[Anonymous No.16818299]

>Comfy taverns
>Comfy walks
>Comfy villages
>Minimal epic shit
>Minimal reams of paper dedicated to armies, battles, etc.

Are there any fantasy books with this vibe?

[Anonymous No.16818317]

Does /x/ have decent pasta's or threads? Or is it all just cringe? I've been seeing a lot of cringe so far.

[Anonymous No.16818325]

>>16818299
dude literally >>16818206

go read some Conan or Kane or Elric

[Anonymous No.16818361]

Whare are your predictions for the next SA book?

I think Kaladin is going to do die or either Syl

[Anonymous No.16818364]

>>16818325
I've read several of the Conan stories. It's good shit, pal, but my ideal fantasy is a little less heavy on the warrior aspect.

[Anonymous No.16818366]

[Anonymous No.16818394]

>>16818361
Shallan is going to outlive every character you actually like.

[Anonymous No.16818402]

Why do so few fantasy writers actually capture the primeval spirit

[Anonymous No.16818446]

>>16818361
Adolin gives up crazy multiple personality lady for perfect sword wife.

[Anonymous No.16818452]

>>16818394
>>16818446
Both are correct

[Anonymous No.16818480]

>>16815485
I'd really recommend finishing Malazan if you're still interested in the plot. It only gets more crazy and convoluted as the books progress and you'll definitely enjoy them less if you're not primed adequately for the following lore dumps.

[Anonymous No.16818494]

>>16816498
I'm unironically looking forward to the Rithmatist sequel that will almost certainly never happen.

[Anonymous No.16818505]

>>16817297
>it's bad because I said it's bad!

[Anonymous No.16818517]

>>16818446
God I hope so

[Anonymous No.16818524]

>>16818494
You shouldn't be doing that.

[Anonymous No.16818545]

>>16818494
>that will almost certainly never happen
I feel like I've seen it mentioned as often on his dumb end-of-year review blogposts as much as I've seen the Warbreaker/Elantris sequels mentioned that will also never be completed.

[Anonymous No.16818568]

WIT/HOID META-STORY POWER RANKINGS
1: Fleet
2: Wandersail
3: The Girl Who Looked Up
4: Dog & Dragon

[/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fan(...) No.16818633]

>>16818361

>>16818446 <--This better fucking happen or it will prove conclusively that Sanderson is shit.

Adolin got better scenes involving Maya than he did with his mentally ill "wife".

I believe Azure is going to start an insurgency and with the help of Rock they will clear Cultivation's Perpendicularity and save the Horneater Peaks.

Odium has to do some more hand rubbing and evil planning to select his next champion since Moash, being a retard, went hysterically blind.


>>16816498
I pray Jordan's widow stops at the shitty live action series and never ever pulls a fucking Brian Herbert.

[Anonymous No.16818755]

>>16812928
I thought the crossover was already too much in the last book. I've accepted that this is the direction he's going in, but he does risk readers stopping caring the more he does it.
>>16813214
Pirates won again with the early release. And they are very easy to read

[Anonymous No.16818840]

>>16813753
Raboniel is the best character in this book, and one of the best in the series. One of the few characters I wouldn't mind him pulling some wonky anime-style resurrection for. If she's actually dead..

[Anonymous No.16818902]

>>16818206
No, I'd rather read spaceship and kinky fuckery

[Anonymous No.16818946]

>>16818317
>/x/
There were some decent pasta about 10 years ago. I still remember some of them. For instance there was one about a spooky theatre which had a very memorable accompanying pic - a figure, androgynous or thin female, pretty /fa/, and the face was also wrapped up in cloth... I tried searching for this pic and pasta, but don't remember enough specifics to search... Haven't been there since. Probably now it's all zoomer shit or /pol/ shit, cause zoomers and /pol/tards have ruined basically every board.

[Anonymous No.16818955]

>>16818568
literally what/who

[Anonymous No.16818993]

>>16814014
Sandershits.... Explain yourself

[Anonymous No.16819089]

>>16818402
Because Medieval is more popular

[Anonymous No.16819101]

>>16818402
Can you describe what you mean by this

[Anonymous No.16819108]

>>16818993
sanderson's prose is shit, i dont think even the most ardent of his followers would deny that fact. There is no subtlety to his writings, every side character across all his books are interchangeable with the same quirky-quippy speech, and his autistic usage of italics becomes tiring very fast. Its appeal lies in its pedestrian quality, an attribute of modern life.

[Anonymous No.16819116]

>>16814014
This is an absolute disgrace to the written word. Can hardly believe it's real. Worse than I could have imagined. Sanderturds, you disappoint and disgust me.

[Anonymous No.16819130]

>>16818840
She was the sleeper hit of the whole book. I read the preview chapters and fully expected Fused-Hitler trying to genocide the humies and I was genuinely and wonderfully surprised by how good her arc ended up being.

[Anonymous No.16819138]

>>16819089
They don't even write medieval, they write early modern with magic taking the place of tech.

[Anonymous No.16819195]

>>16814014
mother of god...

[Anonymous No.16819203]

I like urban fantasy.

[Anonymous No.16819242]

>>16818505
Explain why you like it

[Anonymous No.16819259]

>>16815673
Feanor was mostly pissed about the silmarils being taken IIRC.when elves die yes they go to the halls of mandos and then get reincarnated... HOWEVER if you piss off the valar, which feanor did with his kinslaying and other bad things, you're basically staying in the halls of mandos until the end of time

[Anonymous No.16819273]

>>16817055
>Are there any fantasy books that you guys would describe as "ethereal" to read?
this one. utterly bizarre but also, quite breathtaking. ethereal to be sure. it's amazing and maybe the best word to describe it is "raw". i cant really explain it well

[Anonymous No.16819282]

>>16819203
Me too

[Anonymous No.16819290]

>>16817289
>Anons is there any modern science fiction that you liked? I would like to read something futuristic with space travel.
i thought the three body problem by cixin liu was great modern sci fi

>If possible "robots", AI, contact with intelligent life..
iain m. banks' culture series. lots of space travel, lots of AI and contact

[Anonymous No.16819298]

>>16817476
five chapters would be roughly the part where he's in the infinite library IIRC. one of my favourite parts

[Anonymous No.16819307]

>>16818299
>Comfy taverns
>Comfy walks
>Comfy villages
>Minimal epic shit
>Minimal reams of paper dedicated to armies, battles, etc.

robin hobb's farseer books

[Anonymous No.16819339]

>>16819298
I didn't really enjoy the book until I realized that the whole narrative was warped and biased by the narrator, which I really should have recognized sooner.
It took him basically raping that one lady for me to realize that he was whitewashing his retelling.

[Anonymous No.16819375]

>>16819130
DESU me too

[Anonymous No.16819381]

>>16819242
Why do you care? Opinions are subjective. What do you have against enjoying things?

[Anonymous No.16819391]

>>16819307
Those books are hardly comfy, just a story about a guy getting cucked out existence because the author hated the protagonist she wrote

[Anonymous No.16819397]

>>16819339
ive re-read it a few times now and i've come to the conclusion that he's not deliberately warping the narrative. i think it's rather that severian is telling everything as it happened, but he also omits a bunch of stuff. or he only tells what happened at face value. or he himself didn't understand the reasons certain things were happening, and just describes purely what played out

it's not a natural way to try and tell a story, but it makes sense because we're meant to be reading severian's memoirs not something written by wolfe

anyway, i wasn't too keen on the book on my first read either. it was just so strange that i had to keep going. on the second read it became one of my all time favourite books

[Anonymous No.16819400]

>>16819381
First you squealed about someone having the opinion they didn't like it, now you won't explain why you like it because opinions are subjective
Exactly what I expect from a sandershit

[Anonymous No.16819407]

>>16819391
there are lots of comfy moments but yes it's very sad. poor fitz, he doesnt have an easy life

[Anonymous No.16819607]

During his 1 year vacation from Melnibone to learn the ways of the young kingdoms in order to bring his Empire up to date with the modern times, when did Elric realize that the best course of action was to sack Imrryr with the strongest forces of the young kingdoms and raise his ancestral city to the ground, burning and looting everything in sight?
I feel like I've missed something pretty important between Sailors and this book.

[Anonymous No.16819643]

>every author thinks we want to learn their made up arbitrary monetary system, counting system, measurement system, etc
>each country in their book is different

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.16819653]

>>16819400
>First you squealed about someone having the opinion they didn't like it
No, first you squealed about subjective reasons to dislike something so you could contribute nothing to a fairly amiable discussion about books people like. Your opinions are subjective, as are mine. I owe you nothing.

[Anonymous No.16819863]

>>16819643
d-did someone say WOOOOOOOOOOOOORLDBULDING???????

[Anonymous No.16819874]

>>16819643

[Anonymous No.16819890]

>worldbuilding
>Magic "system"

Sanderson is going to ruin the fantasy gender, isn't he?

[Anonymous No.16819900]

>>16815497
Rikke as a character becomes way more interesting in Trouble with Peace, even if she is a bit of a mary sue

[Anonymous No.16819937]

>>16819643
>tfw author expects you to learn his version of Relativity

[Anonymous No.16819953]

>>16819937
>tfw author expects you to suspend your disbelief

[Anonymous No.16819972]

>>16819890
All that shit predates Sanderson. One of my favorite series, Death Gate Cycle, Weiss and Hickman had appendices outlining the logic and application of magic in their setting. That series ended in 1993 abouts.

[Anonymous No.16819993]

>>16819282
Oh you.

[Anonymous No.16820003]

>>16813717
Not quite the same but I enjoyed the Codex Alera.

[Anonymous No.16820087]

>>16813717
That's a beautiful cover. God knows why they replaced it with this garbage one.

[Anonymous No.16820105]

[Anonymous No.16820126]

>>16820105

Put on your mask
No, no the one with the hole

[Anonymous No.16820203]

>>16819972
HAPLO
AND
THE DOG

[Anonymous No.16820316]

I bounced off this originally, but after making it past the tedious first chapter it's really fun seeing Vance tackle a well worn premise.

[Anonymous No.16820514]

>>16817894
>books 6-10 picking up after a couple of centuries that would overlap with space-age mistborn, it is inevitable that roshar gets fucked.
I thought book 6 would be about 10 or so years after book 5.

[Anonymous No.16820608]

>>16819130
She did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.16820613]

>>16820514
He said there'd be a timeskip, but he's also said most of the current mains will still be around even as nothing more than secondary characters. I think a lot of people are reading too much into the terms for the contest of champions.

[Anonymous No.16820643]

>>16820608
This time. And murdering your immortal child to release her from her soul crippling insanity made up for a lot of old bullshit. I didn't want to like her, but I ended up liking her a lot and she was definitely one of the high points of the whole story.

[Anonymous No.16820698]

I'm between two new writers I know nothing of.
Bujold's "The Curse of Chalion" and Sebastian de Castell (thinking about "Traitor's Blade").
I checked the sffg goodreads spreadsheet and both seem about okay.
Any words of advice or comments on either one?

[Anonymous No.16820707]

>>16820698
Bujold is more high brow, Castell is more YA. Curse of Chalion is top tier fantasy that is a must-read. Personally I enjoyed the vibe of Castells Spellslinger series quite a lot, but his prose is borderline Sanderson tier (by that I mean, there basically isn't any).

[Anonymous No.16820730]

>sffg is as guilty as every other place of perpetuating the undeserved sanderson hype
When did this happen?

[Anonymous No.16820752]

>>16814014
it's like comic books where they bold certain words. very annoying.

[Anonymous No.16820758]

>>16819407
is that the one where he gets cursed to be fat?
That's a more horrible curse than any grimshit I ever saw

[Anonymous No.16820773]

>>16820752
That annoys the shit out of me. And usually they don't even bold things that would make sense, they just take a word randomly from the panel and bold it for no reason.

[Anonymous No.16820788]

>>16820752
>>16820773
>I barely understand cadence because I literally speak to no one

[Anonymous No.16820795]

>>16820788
I do UNDERSTAND cadence but WHEN random words THAT make no sense and bolded FOR no reason it becomes really ANNOYING.

Besides I don't need you to fucking bold text for me to understand the cadence of a conversation.

[Anonymous No.16820798]

When did Paolini get so jacked?

[Anonymous No.16820799]

>>16820788
I don't know, no one I k n o w speaks like this:
I am s n e e d. I have trained thousands of years s o w i n g seeds and have become a m a s t e r of feed. There is o n e secret I must always keep secretified: my former n a m e

[Anonymous No.16820819]

>>16820707
Didn't know the guy wrote YA, so thanks for setting my expectations on course. I was thinking of reading his Greatcoats series which is apparently plain adult fantasy. Judging by some of the quotes and the synopsis, it seems like a shitty Expendables, one last fight kind of thing, but the cast is the Three Musketeers. I'm biased towards pseudo Europe settings and swords. I hope it will be fun at least.

I'll still check Bujold first. Might open up Vorkosigan and the fetishes some anon mentioned about The Sharing Knife or something, but I've had a pretty shitty experience with modern American female writers so I'll thead carefully.

[Anonymous No.16820836]

>>16820514
Yes, the timeskip is around 10-15 years between book 5 and 6. That'll allow important things like Lift AGING INTO AN ADULT AND NOT BEING AWESOME

[Anonymous No.16820861]

>>16820819
Bujold differs from other female authors in that while she's still a femcoomer, she's got god tier taste that even straight guys can appreciate. She's not into juvenile bad boy stereotypes, she's a patrician who wants dashing daddies who are as dangerous as they are intelligent, verbose and muscular and witty. She's also one of the few female authors I've ever encountered who can convincingly write banter between two male characters.
Vorkosigan isn't my favorite, mostly because it's much older and Bujold is a writer who has matured considerably over the course of her career, a lot of the early part of the series is couched in early 80's culture which comes across as very naive today. I haven't read Sharing Knife yet, but the Penric novellas which are set in the same universe as Chalion are also fantastic.

As for Castell, like I said I liked what I've read of his works, he doesn't get overly tied up in drawn out action scenes and his pacing and characterization are good, his real flaw is he just doesn't do prose.

[Anonymous No.16820873]

>>16820788
>>16820795
It's not just the cadence, it's the stress.
>You're a faggot, faggot.
or
>/You're/ a faggot, faggot.
read differently and imply different things, and they're appropriate depending on the context.
Since his readers are retards and he fell for the Proper Grammar (tm) meme from English writing style guides and leaves his dialogue tags as generic as possible (John said, Mary screamed, Bob whispered), I'd say it's a necessary touch. Still, leaves very little to imagination, as if he was planning ahead to get a film adaptation or getting his readers to finish his anime drivel and tweet as fast as possible about them.

[Anonymous No.16820874]

>>16820798
Is that a dragon dildo on the shelf?

[Anonymous No.16820877]

Brandon Sanderson

[Anonymous No.16820895]

>>16820873
ofcourse theyre different, but i'd rather read the one without the bolding, or atleast bold only rarely. People don't emphasize words that much in real life, and it just gives a weird feeling to the text.
>>16820877
(you)

[Anonymous No.16820899]

>>16819900
No she doesnt. Pure cringe the whole way through.

[Anonymous No.16820915]

>>16820873
That much stress in that last block of text makes it come off like this Lopen fellow is being a really sarcastic cunt, like he's openly mocking Talik. Wonder if that's intentional.
>he fell for the Proper Grammar (tm) meme
I think he uses "so" wrong in "...yellow triangles. So he seemed to be enjoying the ride." Correct me if I'm wrong, but he can't even do that shit right. Yeah it's nitpicky, but that's distracting. There are just so many issues in that extract. Talik seems to behave like a dummy instead of reacting at all to suddenly getting shot into the air. Why the "or something"? I can't handle this crap.

[Anonymous No.16820918]

>>16820836
Fuck you Lift will remain smol forever.

[Anonymous No.16820930]

>>16820918
Lift binds her chest, she's already oppai.

[Anonymous No.16820966]

>>16820877
sneed

[Anonymous No.16820980]

>>16820915
It's a half-assed troll attempt because it's literally written "bad on purpose" to convey the pov character's (Lopen) unfamiliarity with Alethi, the "common tongue" through much of the Stormlight setting. Taking it even more out of context, it's very clear in Dawnshard, the short novel this was harvested from, was being purposely experimental with his made up languages and how they're perceived by characters who do and don't sufficiently understand one another. But trolling is a art I suppose.

[Anonymous No.16820985]

>>16820918
>>16820930
Why is no one asking the important question, like is her new chicken an aviar?

[Anonymous No.16820989]

>>16820980
Alright, that's interesting. Could you post something from a less "experimental" book of his for comparison?

[Anonymous No.16821003]

Sneedon Feederson

[Anonymous No.16821011]

>>16820985
It probably is.

[Anonymous No.16821017]

>>16820798
C-Christopher Paolini looks like THAT....?
Take me to Alagaësia, daddy....

[Anonymous No.16821117]

>>16820861
Cool. Thanks for that.
My main gripe with similar female writers is that they wrote very much like "old ladies". I don't mind the cooming as long as it's very far from 50 shades of gray and all those Walmart erotica novels.

[Anonymous No.16821135]

>>16821117
>My main gripe with similar female writers is that they wrote very much like "old ladies"
No need to worry about that, here's a sample from early in the book
>His choice of vantage had only partly to do with staying cool. The Provincara was right, he had to allow—swimming was lewd. And loose linen shifts, thoroughly wetted down and clinging to lithe young bodies, made fair mockery of the modesty they attempted to preserve, a stunning effect he carefully did not point out to his two blithe charges. Worse, the effect cut two ways. Wet linen trews clinging to his loins revealed a state of mind—um, body—um, recovering health—that he earnestly prayed they would not notice. Iselle didn’t seem to, anyway. He was not entirely sure about Betriz. Their middle-aged lady-in-waiting Nan dy Vrit, who declined the lessons but waded about in the shallows fully dressed with her skirts hoisted to her calves, missed nothing in the play, and was clearly hard-pressed to control her snickers.

[Anonymous No.16821147]

>>16820989
Have a snippet of the opening of Stormlight 1 where 2 pseudo-deities contemplate in the basic tone of the series when it's not being purposefully fanciful.

[Anonymous No.16821181]

>>16821147
that's fine. the one italics on the SMELL and the thoughts is fine.

[Anonymous No.16821192]

>>16820758
>is that the one where he gets cursed to be fat?
no that's the soldier son trilogy, completely different series

[Anonymous No.16821198]

>>16821192
God Soldier Son was so fucking terrible. You think for a moment it's going to stop being so shit then she doubled down on how shitty it was.

[Anonymous No.16821206]

>>16820861
Bujold's best work are the Vorkosigan novellas, Mountains of Mourning, Labyrinth and Borders of Infinity are nothing short of exceptional.

What she does best is express internalization of outside drama, the Miles/Mark dichotomy in Mirror Dance is some of the best SF you'll ever read.

[Anonymous No.16821211]

>>16819890
Tolkien already ruined it with his powerlevel garbage.

[Anonymous No.16821215]

>>16819607
The Elric chronology is a clusterfuck, there was a resource for it somewhere but I can't remember.

[Anonymous No.16821226]

>>16816640
No one here hates gurm for his writing(I hope) just that he got famous for mediocrity. His pre-ASOIAF stuff is pretty good.

>conan
>elric

But those are great, what are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.16821261]

>>16821198
i know, i couldn't finish the first book. i was so disappointed because i loved the farseer / liveship books
"oh no i'm fat now lmao" - the fantasy novel

[Anonymous No.16821268]

Just started reading dune. I’m not very far in, Paul has found that thing in the new house. The hunter seeker or whatever it’s called that would have killed him.

[Anonymous No.16821272]

>>16812822
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.16821308]

>>16812873
Man, that book is almost as old as the French Revolution.

[Anonymous No.16821311]

>>16821261
Is this funny bad? It sounds funny bad.

[Anonymous No.16821312]

>>16821311
It's just bad. The plot is all over the place, drama for the sake of drama and characters doing things that make no sense.

[Anonymous No.16821331]

Where my fellow Eye of Argon bros at?

[Anonymous No.16821388]

>>16821311
>Is this funny bad?
no, just bad

[Anonymous No.16821436]

>>16820980
"it's x on purpose" is a weak excuse for writing/reading something bad. shallan being gigacringe for three (maybe 4) books because "she's supposed to be cringe" doesn't make it suddenly fine just because it fits the character he made up for her.
unreliable narrator is a bad excuse for kvothe exaggerating endlessly because you still have to read through 2 fat books of that drivel.
maybe it's even worse than that because it's used as a cop out to write mediocre shit

[Anonymous No.16821453]

I like Cryptics.

[Anonymous No.16821458]

>>16821453
Shallan doesn't deserve Pattern.

[Anonymous No.16821533]

>>16821436
>"it's x on purpose" is a weak excuse for writing/reading something bad
And if it were the only type of writing he did with no other reason to read it, you might have a point. But it's not.

[Anonymous No.16821534]

>>16821453
>that description of the dead cryptic Ishar manifested in the physical realm

[Anonymous No.16821557]

Sanderson fags spoil me and tell me moash get a sword through his gut in this book.

[Anonymous No.16821569]

>>16821557
No, but he does get his eyes burned out permanently by the Sibling

[Anonymous No.16821576]

>>16817476
Yes

[Anonymous No.16821599]

>>16818402
Read Ka by John Crowley if you haven't already.

[Anonymous No.16821617]

>>16820985
I don't know how he stumbled upon the chicken thing, but it's great. Always cracks me up.

[Anonymous No.16821618]

>>16820698
Chalion is great.

[Anonymous No.16821657]

>>16819282

[Anonymous No.16821687]

>>16821226
People don't hate gurm for getting famous for mediocrity, they hate him for abandoning his readers.

[Anonymous No.16821704]

>>16821687
>winds of winter never ever
>please look forward to Skyward 3 and Wax and Wayne 4 in the next 2 years

[Anonymous No.16821750]

>>16821704
yeah, i'll take anime that gets pumped out on a regular and fast schedule over slightly better written and more serious anime that never releases

[Anonymous No.16821764]

>>16821704
Yeah but Skyward was shit and George actually writes good books

[Anonymous No.16821859]

>>16821764
>George actually writes
Skyward is fine for YA crap. I'm hype for the Wax and Wayne finale though.

[Anonymous No.16821915]

>>16821331
Thou hast need to occupy thy time?

[Anonymous No.16821942]

>>16817289
blindopraxia is literally the only good modern sci fi

[Anonymous No.16821981]

faggots

[Anonymous No.16821998]

>>16821942

[Anonymous No.16822103]

What the FUCK does Odium want?

[Anonymous No.16822114]

>>16821533
>But it's not.
Laughable levels of delusion.

[Anonymous No.16822116]

>>16822103
Well at this point, the vessel wants to save all of Roshar but the power wants to destroy everything in a fit of hate fueled rage.

[Anonymous No.16822124]

>>16822114
>my opinion matters
Still no sweaty.

[Anonymous No.16822128]

>>16821859
>Skyward is fine for YA crap.
So it's shit? Your defense is that it's subpar even for something that's meant to be dumb and easy? That absolute state of sanderson shills.

[Anonymous No.16822176]

>>16819397

There are definitely things he omits purposefully - the secret codes, anything on troop movements or anything that can be used by political enemies. I think there are some things he's not proud of so he spins them weirdly; Jolenta in the boat, I think he does some stuff to Dorcas in Thrax. There is a tonne of stuff he doesn't understand; e.g. his gaps in memory (when he falls off Typhon's mountain, or when he "nearly" drowns) or his encounter with Silkhorn.

[Anonymous No.16822214]

>>16821215
I believe I may have missed one story in the chronology but I believed it was of no consequence since it was added into the saga much later: "Elric at the Edge of Time". Perhaps I'll go back and it'll answer all my questions here, but I also don't mind being spoiled.

[Anonymous No.16822243]

Where can I read stuff from "The Big Three" to the Golden Age stuff?

[Anonymous No.16822276]

>>16817198
>>16817271
I actually liked the Lopen by the end of Dawnshard. Perhaps because I actually read it for a change and didn't hear the obnoxious audiobook version, or perhaps because he got some actual character development. And one of his running gags at the end was nice.


>>16817289
Murderbot
Too like the Lightning
You might also like Children of Time, but certainly I do not recommend:

>>16820798
Probably because he was working out while thinking up his gratuitously unasked-for and unnecessary overly-complex FTL system for To Sleep in a Sea of Stars that he said took many months to develop. It shows that it might have been thought up with an oxygen-deprived brain.

[Anonymous No.16822293]

>>16822116
BEAR THE SIN, VARGO

[Anonymous No.16822300]

>>16822128
>So it's shit?
No. It's FINE for a fiction book intended for middle schoolers. That's why I used the word "fine".
Your defense
I'm not defending anything. You haven't made an argument. "REEEEEE I think it's shit!" is not an argument.

[Anonymous No.16822303]

So what was the scene that Sando had been waiting to write since he was a fresh-faced Mormon college boy?

[Anonymous No.16822329]

>>16822303
Basically the whole run between chapter 105 and 110.

[Anonymous No.16822477]

>>16822276
>Children of Time, but certainly I do not recommend:

WHY not?

[Anonymous No.16822486]

what books have Sir Beaington companions?

[Anonymous No.16822552]

something like this?

[Anonymous No.16822578]

>>16821268
this post doesn't contain any information useful to anybody or any expression of opinion and I still prefer it to the endless arguments about fucking sanderson.

[Anonymous No.16822600]

>>16821268
might be a spoiler but I'm pretty surprised that those things never come up again or at least haven't yet
t. on Chapter 12

[Anonymous No.16822657]

>>16822552
Unironically this.

[Anonymous No.16822697]

Flashbacks in RoW were pretty pointless. Next up is Szeth, who should at least be interesting.
After that Lift, Renarin, Ash, Taln, Jasnah. Unfortunately I can see Lift and Renarin being fairly bland as well.

[Anonymous No.16822707]

>>16822243
Project gutenberg used to have stapledon. But that was back in 2007...

[Anonymous No.16822727]

>>16822697
Renarin and Jasnah are at least in the background enough that they haven't had nearly as much exposure as Venli/Eshonai did before their book. Herald focused books should be sweet though.

[Anonymous No.16822742]

>>16822243
>>16822707

http://gutenberg.net.au/

Search there.

[Anonymous No.16822776]

books featuring pipers/bards?

[Anonymous No.16822854]

>>16822776
None for people who post anime outside your containment board.

[Anonymous No.16822880]

>>16822854
shut the fuck up, sandersoy

[Anonymous No.16822947]

>>16822880
Sanderfags > tr/a/sh

[Anonymous No.16822979]

>>16822947
anime website, shiteater

[Anonymous No.16822995]

Sandon Branderson

[Anonymous No.16823037]

>>16822477
There's a colon there. I don't recommend Paolini's generic sci-fi book.

[Anonymous No.16823049]

>>16822979
Not an anime board though, is it? Fuck outta here you underage twit.

[Anonymous No.16823055]

>>16822776
kys weeb

[Anonymous No.16823062]

>>16823049
>>16823055
Every board is an anime board, redditor.

[Anonymous No.16823066]

>like anime
>don't like sanderson
How?

[Anonymous No.16823070]

>>16823066
Sanderson is bad anime.

[Anonymous No.16823073]

>>16823066
Because anime is a medium with works of extremely different qualities and Sanderson is an individual, who is of very low quality.

[Anonymous No.16823098]

wow, this place went to shit because of one shitty anime post
i hate all of you

[Anonymous No.16823109]

>>16823098
>anon asks for rec
>happens to use anime-styled image on an anime website
>nigger goes apeshit and derails thread
many such cases

[Anonymous No.16823200]

i'ma keep it a buck fifty with y'all
i don't imagine characters when i read about them

[Anonymous No.16823218]

>>16823200
I strictly imagine all my characters as anime

[Anonymous No.16823219]

>>16823200
Same.

I don't read in their voices either.

[Anonymous No.16823225]

>>16823200
That's because you read Erikson and he hasn't described a character in his life.

[Anonymous No.16823256]

>>16823066
please stop using italics already holy shit

[Anonymous No.16823329]

>>16823219
I don't even know if I read out loud in my mind.

[Anonymous No.16823330]

>>16823225
Because he expects you to pick up on who the characters are through their actions and thoughts instead of being told.

[Anonymous No.16823332]

>>16819195
>tfw they add pineapple to an actual pizza with tomato sauce
I made the same face as the guy in the pic. Maronna!

[Anonymous No.16823349]

Looking for something that is less 'political fantasy', and more 'religious fantasy'.
I want to see angels and demons fighting, and gods dying, all while the mortal beings are stuck worshipping.

Can anyone recommend anything like that, please?

Already read all of Tolkien

[Anonymous No.16823359]

>>16823349
Between Two Fires by Buehlman

[Anonymous No.16823409]

How the hell did I not recognize Joe Pesci?

[Anonymous No.16823477]

>>16823359
Seconded.

[Anonymous No.16823639]

>>16823477
Caprica seconds.

[Anonymous No.16824487]

>>16823066
This is Sanderson's writing? Oh my fuck, it's fucking awful

[Anonymous No.16824499]

>>16823066
Is Sanderson a 14 year old girl? Because he writes like it. I can't believe you retards can sit through thousands of pages of this absolute drivel.