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Which translation of the iliad and odyssey is the best one?

>> No.16788629

>>16788615
We've had this thread numerous times. Check the archive. I'm just here for the whore.

>> No.16788808

It's not good for you, but it's not that bad for you either.

>> No.16788811
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16788811

The one you like best. Go sample them

>> No.16788829

>>16788629
Sanara is not a whore

>> No.16788832

>>16788811
do you have this saved in some folder or did you look it up for the thread?

>> No.16788837

>>16788615
>translations
>thot posting
ngmi

>> No.16788839

>>16788829
Why does she have a stripper name, then?

>> No.16788843

>>16788615
I like Lombardo. No one seem to have read his translation here though.

>> No.16788854

>>16788615
Lattimore and Merrill

>> No.16788863

>>16788832
It’s been on my computer for years, but I had to search for the pad. Why?
I never managed to see this film

>> No.16788865

why are women such faggots?

>> No.16788874

>>16788865
Why are males such farts?

>> No.16788877

Man I really hate questions like this...

>Implying people on /lit/ have read multiple Iliad and Odyssey translations
>Implying one is objectively better than others
>Implying you’ll listen to the advice given here anyways

Just pick one that’s well known and see if you like it. If you really wanna be picky sample a couple before choosing the one that reads the best to you.

>> No.16788880

>>16788615
Stanley Lombardo

>> No.16788884

>>16788863
What film? What do you mean?

>> No.16788887

>>16788615
The one where you spend a few months learning Greek and you read it in their native tongue

>> No.16788902

>>16788887
Oh sod off
Like you’ve done that...

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>>16788884
It’s called Good Times Kid

>> No.16788933

>>16788615
Robert Fitzgerald

>> No.16788958

>>16788923
This why I love you, Butters. You're a mine of obscure recs :D

>> No.16788964

>>16788615
>>16788811
I hate white women so much holy shit

>> No.16789007

Why does it matter what translations are best? Troy still falls and Odysseus finds home in the end.

>> No.16789010

>>16788615
Veresayev

>> No.16789074
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>>16788811
God Butterfly, you are so wise.

>> No.16789082

>>16788615
why do americans wear shoes in their houses

>> No.16789086

>>16789082
why do euros follow chink traditions?

>> No.16789095
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>>16788964
Sara Diaz is her name though.

>>16789007
Philistine.

>>16789082
Ikr?

>> No.16789098

>>16789082
It's not really that complicated to understand.

They're all just fucked in the head.

>> No.16789100

>>16789098
Are Yurofag streets so dirty that you faggots are unable to wear shoes in your own house?

>> No.16789145

God, I hate woman

>> No.16789169

>>16788615
Just study women & see that a woman wants to keep men competing for her, with the euphemism of courting, ie being a princess with lots of princes seducing her & when in bed, she wants to talk dirty, for once to be fucked raw while squirting everywhere, joyfully exclaiming ''omg this never happened to me before'', succumbing to a convulsive orgasm, the highlight of her life, the legendary vaginal holy grail heard during the regular sex gossip at the spa with her girl friends giggling in unison. For years she dreamed it was HER TURN damn it, yet for years she put up with subpar self-glorifying sexual partners, conveniently avoiding thinking her sex-based existence. The princess is not ready to accept that, she keeps in the back of her mind a distant fantasy of merging her double life: a state of debased Lady, all the time, where her cognitive dissonance would've no end & no beginning. No more hysteria, no more schizophrenia. It'd pure non-duality. Diana would be proud of her enlightenement.

At this stage, women prefer to let the men do the first step, let them think they're in control & the stronger sex, as a bonus she doesn't view herself as a total slag & gets the harassment card if the orbiters are too repulsive. Men love this, falling hook, line and sinker.

Willy-nilly, the woman ends up pregnant, it's what happen after years of bending over. She debates for a few days whether to keep it, whether to tell whoever she thinks fertilized her these last few weeks.
She fancies playing the card of the helicopter mom, feeling like protecting & providing for a tiny kid, taking it in her arms, watching it move, be happy; exactly what men dream of doing to women.
Women love their kids, they are faithful to them. Women do not love men, they are not faithful to men. They don't even need to anyway. Women practice love like a banker at JPMorgan performing a cost-benefit analysis.
Bored with the helicopter mom, plus the kids grew up, she longs for the golden years of her twenties when she was kind of a looker.
She's spreading them even wider, in secret or openly, this time cutting the good girl act for she knows what she wants after all those experiences, & with little effort on her side, she still pulls it off with lots of chads eating her pussy & ass.

The menopause really kicks in & all her aging orbiters have a semi hard-on from her when she's in the nude. She thinks about a breast lift, some bottox here & there, but she feels bittersweet since the end is near. She's open about the swinger sex. Her official provider is happy to be a cuckold & happy to make her happy, to be here for her day after day.

Hardly any man looks, now that she's a young grandma, more or less jealous of her daughter becoming what she was, relentlessly perpetuating the female life.
Grandma finally dies & everybody says she was a saint. The daughter hits the wall, the teen granddaughter bleeds and is active, it's her turn to perpetuate the cycle of the vaginal existence.

>> No.16789189

>>16788615
>she doesn't get kicked in the face or knocked over by a dog
Why did you post this?

>> No.16789208

>>16788615
She's fairly attractive, but this is pretty cringe.

>> No.16789227

>>16789100
Yes. Plus they take public transport everywhere so their feet are regularly given a yellow baptism by hobos.

>> No.16789378

>>16788829
she dances like a whore my dude

>> No.16789404

>>16789169
Is true love even real ..?

>> No.16789438

>>16789100
>>16789227
I bet you stupid assholes don't even wear belts to bed or shower with you hats on.

How can a culture be so pathetic?

>> No.16789476

>>16789378
That’s a cheerleader dance, mien chudo

>> No.16789543

>>16789082
>not having marble floors in every room and tracking mud around

>> No.16789550

>>16788615
Any that’s not in a creole language. Eg English

>> No.16789558

>>16788874
>t. male

>> No.16789562

>>16789189
My thoughts exactly. I was waiting for the TV to fall on her or something.

>> No.16789715

>>16788615
Chapman is an obvious one. So well known that Keats even wrote a poem called 'On First Looking into Chapman's Homer'.
Other well-known translations that are literary classics in their own right would be John Dryden and Alexander Pope.

>> No.16789829

>>16789476
Butterfly, do you daye women who are your age or younger, if the latter, what's the limit for you?

>> No.16789833

>>16789829
>daye
*date, I mean.

>> No.16789983

>>16789829
she is the oldest woman, so it kind of forces her hand

>> No.16790013

>>16789715
>Chapman
Hope you aren't being serious

>> No.16790066

why is there 50 different cunts who translate this fucking thing for fuck sake, i dont want to read some dumb cunts version of it, then miss out on the beauty of a different cunts version!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE why cant they just agree one persons is the best for poetry reading and this person is best for prose reading, then no more tranlastion after that!

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>>16789082
Because of shift work. Don't want to waste your 10 minutes changing shoes.

>> No.16790194

>>16790066
Greek is a difficult language to translate, especially the further back you go. Is there some reason you can only read one single translation? Stop being such a weird cunt.

>> No.16790238

>>16788615
She's cute

>> No.16790243

>>16788964
Why are you on /lit/? Every good book ever written is about loving a white woman.

>> No.16790276

>>16788958
Simp
>>16788923
Tranny

>> No.16790289

>>16789476

> Cheerleader
> not a whore

Pick one

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>>16790066
Read multiple translations you fat cunt. Lattimore, Fitz, Fagles, all are fine. I read the Odyssey twice this month.

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>>16788829
It's Samara not Sanara retard.

>> No.16790418

>>16788811
do you really think those young girls like old ass lesbian grannies like you lusting after them any more than they like the creepy grandpas? Time's running out butters

>> No.16790425

>>16789227
There are more homeless in California than in all of Europe

>> No.16790428

>GRRR Why do modern women enjoy dancing?? Why are they all such whores?? Why can't I find a trad wife who doesn't dance or have fun, but just picks flowers and bakes pastries while having her hair in plaits

>> No.16790444

>>16790194
thats not the point im making you fuckwit

>> No.16790446

>>16790444
What is your point?

>> No.16790509

>>16790243
That’s exactly why they became insufferable, every piece of art in western civilization worships them, you would swear they were considered this culture’s gods if you flew in from outer space and observed our literature, music and film.

>> No.16790513

>>16790428
Big difference between dancing, and dressing up at home, alone, applying makeup, setting up your phone to record, and uploading it in order to get dopamine rushes from compliments while pretending strange men ages 10-70 aren’t masturbating to you in the privacy of their homes.

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>>16789082
The most mind-boggling thing about this is that they wear shoes AND have these disgusting carpets on. You could make an argument for wearing shoes when it's a nice wood flooring that you can easily swipe the dust off but no, they insist on carpets that are impossible to clean.

>> No.16790706

>>16790585
>disgusting carpets
seriously, why do they have those disgusting carpets all over their houses? what the fuck is wrong with them?

>> No.16790721

>>16790418
Butters is a tranny.

>> No.16790816

>>16790513
Why is it her problem that men will masterbate to her doing a sily dance fully clothed? OP's video is very clearly not sexual, and if some men think it is then the problem is with their low horniness threshold, and not with her.

>> No.16790821

Pope, you fucking faggots. Why has only one person even mentioned him? It's arguably the best English verse translation of any ancient work but he's not talked about because you faggots will only read what /lit/ says is good because YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOOD UNLESS SOMEONE TELLS YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT LITERATURE MOST OF YOU ARE ONLY HERE BECAUSE ITS A COFFEE BUTTERFLY THREAD.
AAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>16790821

>> No.16791101

>>16789404
Rosebud

>> No.16791205

>>16790013
Much have I travell'd in the realms of gold,
And many goodly states and kingdoms seen;
Round many western islands have I been
Which bards in fealty to Apollo hold.
Oft of one wide expanse had I been told
That deep-brow'd Homer ruled as his demesne;
Yet did I never breathe its pure serene
Till I heard Chapman speak out loud and bold:
Then felt I like some watcher of the skies
When a new planet swims into his ken;
Or like stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
He stared at the Pacific—and all his men
Look'd at each other with a wild surmise—
Silent, upon a peak in Darien.

>> No.16791245

>>16789438
What does that have to do with anything?

>> No.16791393

>>16788874
Stop you peopleing in response to a you people

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>>16788843

>> No.16791463

>>16791393
>not wanting a heel to 'you people'

>> No.16791615

If you don't read Lattimore you are either a child or an illiterate ape with a subhuman IQ. And after you read Lattimore, read Pope. Those are the only two you will need to read, any other translations are lesser versions of these two, anyone who disagrees is wrong.