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>Socialist
>Anti-colonialist
>Anti-Eurocentric
Why exactly does academia hate and deride him?

>> No.16744262

>>16744259
What ?

>> No.16744305

>>16744259
Because he's also an unapologetic pessimist, and because his philosophy posits that the enlightenment and progressive values that most academics claim to champion are just a small part of a certain civilization. With Spengler, there's no escape possible. There's no utopia, there's no liberation, there's no end of history and suffering. Technology wont save us either.
The only one who really took Spengler seriously was Adorno (a pessimist himself), and he said that Spengler was forgotten because his contemporaries and successors just couldnt deal with him.

>> No.16744314

>>16744259
Because he practiced magic

>> No.16744331

>>16744259
because he liked mussolini and fascist italy
and thats based

>> No.16744332

>>16744259
Didn't he actually explain this in DoW? In this stage of Western Civ. philosophy becomes purely academic (Spengler wasn't an academic btw) and metaphysics are completely ignored (DoW is full of metaphysics), while ethics becomes the main branch of philosophy.

>> No.16744342

>>16744259
>tfw calling his book "Decline of the West" rather than "Principles of world civilizations" was the greatest clickbait in history.
It's part of the reason he's both well-known and misunderstood, because the book isnt about the decline of the west at all.

>> No.16744346

his writing sucks for one and hes a darling of low iq nazis

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>>16744259
he is none of those things

>> No.16744356

>>16744349
Funny how that second alinea is exactly what communism ended up as.

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16744363

Why are you posting this again?

>> No.16744368

>>16744356
it didn't, retard.

>> No.16744381

>>16744346
Filtered.

>> No.16744384

>>16744368
it did, tankie bootlicker

>> No.16744386

>>16744349
This is inequality taken to its extreme.

Kind of a shit human being.

>> No.16744388
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16744388

>it didn't, retard.

>> No.16744396

>>16744363
hbd-pill me on this prime untermensch self-hating crypto slavoid

>> No.16744397

>>16744349
Fun idea: Look up the ethnicity of Landa

>> No.16744426

>>16744397
DELETE THIS

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16744434

Damn??
Spengie is based?

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>>16744259
>Anti-colonialist
>Anti-Eurocentric
I already made a thread about this, glad someone else recognizes the omission of Spengler from postcolonial studies curriculum
>>16744349
he was more anti-colonialist and anti-Eurocentric than Marx, that's for sure. I agree on the point that he wasn't a socialist in the traditional sense though. also
>Wikipedia
lost on your way to Reddit, are you mister?
>>16744346
Spengler is harder to understand than Marx, there are tons of companions/guides/secondary sources to Marx's writings and the "advanced" ones among them include Marx's reproduction schemes described using high school-tier linear algebra only in the appendix because that might be too "difficult" for your average Marx reader to understand. with Spengler you have no one else to rely on but yourself, the secondary sources are scarce so you are thrown into deep waters without a lifebuoy, understanding him requires a high level of familiarity with history, religion studies, philosophy, literature and mathematics.
>>16744397
Based "Early life" section investigator

>> No.16744513

>>16744259
He's a Nazi apologist and people use him to justify fascism and racism. Disgusting.
>>16744480
This moron is peek pseud.

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16744557

>Optimism is cowardice
So is he basically trying to say we should just spread out our buttcheeks and relax for eventual collapse

>> No.16744567

>>16744557
based and subpilled

>> No.16744584
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16744584

>He's a Nazi apologist and people use him to justify fascism and racism. Disgusting.

>> No.16744595

>>16744513
>peek

>> No.16744613

>>16744349
The first paragraph is the operation of socialist state, I don't see how they are supposed to be "decidedly capitalist traits".
Socialism doesn't mean welfarism or worker privileges which are just parasitism on top of a capitalist system.

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>>16744584
More like:

>He's an old aristocrat unfeeling piece of shit and I'm glad this relic isn't used in academia to continue oppressing proles.

>> No.16744737

>>16744386
>Kind of a shit human being.
rancid faggot

>> No.16744766

>>16744737
>no argument
Seethe more, Trump lost.

>> No.16744778

>>16744665
Yeah you guys would rather be oppressed by people who spend half a minute pretending they care about you lmfao, if they just put a certain word in their name or a picture of a star then you'll happily lap up their piss while they torture you. fucking pathetiic

>> No.16744792

>>16744766
And you think you won? You think Joe Biden and his friends, which includes fucking Dick Cheney are on your side? fucking idiot

>> No.16744816

>>16744665
Gigachad wouldn’t bow to a beta ideology like communism.

>> No.16744839

>>16744778
>>16744792
>>16744816
Who let the /pol/groids in?

Stop posting and read some books, you negative IQ stains. Proletariat is a term preceding communist literature.

Or alternatively, kill yourselves.

>> No.16744879

>>16744346
spengler was a critic of national socialism

>> No.16744894

>>16744839
pathetic piece of sniveling bootlicking trash

>> No.16744898

>>16744879
Yes because it was too socialist for him

>> No.16744907

>>16744839
>negative IQ
Do you really want to talk about IQ, like maybe the IQ disparity between Sub-saharans, Arabs, Europeans, and East Asians?

>> No.16744930

>>16744766
>>16744839
samefag

>> No.16744938

>>16744259
Because Doomerfaggots will never-ever be taken seriously.

>> No.16744951

>Colonialism bad because muh pocs
Cringe!
>Colonialism bad because it was a net negative for the west
Based!

>> No.16744953

>>16744938
they're taken seriously just as the barbarians finally break down the walls

>> No.16745069

>>16744349
I think Spengler is an interesting figure (based on what little Ive read) so I dont want to condemn him outright or anything retarded like that but seriously- what is the argument for a seven hour work week? Especially under the conditions of industrial manufacture? Franky, all higher minded discussion aside, I think weekends are a good thing.

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>>16744259

Spengler was not a university-bound academic tied to a distinct school and was hated by the academic establishment for his success in spite of the fact. That is the first part.

Secondly, he is too tied (Rightly or wrongly) with the Nazis to be considered Kosher in a postwar environment that actively filtered such thinkers and talents out. To the liberals and later the Marxists who dominated Western Academia from the '50s to the present.

Third, the man is bleakly pessimistic, extremely dense, and far less accessible or popular than others. His books were, even in their zenith, talked about more than they were read. And it's easier to say, spin on about Marx with a skim than it is say, Spengler.

>>16744480

Correct on all accounts. That and the fact that he's tied to a interwar zenith that has tainted other thinkers (Madison Grant, etc...)

>> No.16745132

>>16744259
sex gifs

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>>16744894
/pol/ calling anyone else bootlickers

>> No.16745293

>>16745102
>And it's easier to say, spin on about Marx with a skim than it is say, Spengler.
Is it easier to do so, or just more fashionable? Having read a good amount of Marx I always find that it becomes pretty quickly obvious who has read enough Marx to understand the implications and worldview and who is just throwing around the terminology. Do you think Spengler is even more resistant to cheap references and casual bullshitting? Is he a harder read than Marx? (these are good faith questions, btw. I am legitimately interested in reading Decline of the West when I have more free time)