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It should be fairly clear to any "anti-imperialist" that the historicist elements of Fukuyama's original argument are deeply flawed. Liberalism didn't prevail because liberal capitalist democracy is the inevitable outcome, the system of culture, economics, and political organization that stands astride history. Liberalism ultimately triumphed in the 20th century because the forces of capital waged an unceasing, global war to impose the political and economic conditions which allowed it to flourish. Any real historical materialist analysis should immediately recognize this. The real trick Fukuyama and Kojeve played on the Left, with the assistance of Western intelligence, was making them accept the teleology of liberalism; in turn, there hasn't been a firmware update to Marxism in the wake of it's primarily historical presuppositions being disproven.

That there hasn't been a firmware update to 19th century labor theories of value to account for interdependence financialization/ globalization/ complex interdependence also explains how a supposed anti-capitalist would deny the existence of the professional managerial class. In a post-industrial economy defining a class strictly based on it's relationship to the means of production is historically and economically illiterate. So in many ways the American Left's poverty of analysis and contradictions can be understood as an epistemological issue, one which can be traced back to the midcentury New Left, through to the 1990s where the humanities became a playground for the most empty headed critical theory (which was concurrent with the DNC tossing aside the New Deal coalition for a Reaganomic Third Way).

These epistemological issues have made the entire American Left shock troops for capital. When normie leftists or even more studied Marxist realize this they actually lose their shit: the collective semi-schizophrenic malaise is now known as "the Post-Left." But obsessively documenting the contradictions of libertine "socialists," CIAnarchists, radlibs, and perverts does not an ideology make; in the same way Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson "owning the libs" is ultimately just running cover for moderate Zionism/ liberalism. It's weird that people think it's actually a smart and hip new political movement.

But the "Post-Left" is interesting because it demonstrates how impoverished the Left is, that these people are so disoriented by these contradictions that they have adopted an entirely critical, hyper blackpilled worldview. It also demonstrates an opportunity for the Right to make a more deeply-rooted and prescriptive critique of capitalism.

>> No.16742165

The prescription, of course, wouldn't be a NazBol party-state (let's goooooo), Strasserist agrarian socialism, Monarchism but something more within the Overton Window, a proposal for something slightly more radical than the West's "Right Wing populist" movements. Briefly: protectionism, strict immigration controls, bank nationalization, social conservatism and a welfare state that incentivizes traditional social organization.

I believe writing this book, one which provides an ideological framework for forwarding our ideas in polite company, is one of the greatest opportunities available to aspiring Right Wing pop intellectuals.

>> No.16742170

>>16742164
Stop posting this sinful material, thank you.

>> No.16742173

Boypucci is the future

>> No.16742195

>>16742164
Why are you posting someone who's had female circumcision?

>> No.16742204

>nationalize banks
Will quite literally never happen unless China wins WW3

>> No.16742232

>>16742164
that's a man

>> No.16742241
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16742241

>>16742164
It's a shame you're not a good writer -- you're almost bright.

>> No.16742245

>>16742241
>I’m a good writer

>> No.16742281

>>16742165
>NazBol party-state (let's goooooo), Strasserist agrarian socialism
can you explain what this is for a brainlet
>Monarchism
zero chance in america

>> No.16742296

>>16742241
Don't... don't make me support Palestine....

>> No.16742300

>>16742281
Read the sentence again.

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>> No.16742368

>>16742296
What's wrong with supporting Palestine?

>> No.16743412
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16743412

>Anyone who sniffs out "bad" smells in order to extirpate them may imitate to his heart's content the snuffling which takes its unrationalized pleasure in the smell itself. Disinfected by the civilized sniffer's absolute identification with the prohibiting agency, the forbidden impulse eludes the prohibition.

>> No.16743424

>i spend too much time on the Internet
OP, have you actually read any contemporary Leftist critique that wasn’t posted by some no-mark on Twitter?

>> No.16743430

>>16742165
I agree with everything you’ve said. Reminds me of that Logo guy on twitter. I’d read this book.

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>>16742164

>> No.16744878

>>16742164
>>16742165
at first I clicked on the thread because it was sexual and I haven't nutted. Then I read it and got a very quality set of introductory posts. I don't necessarily think that's 100% the way forward but it would be so many steps above where we're at now that I would agree fully with its implementation. Also, the writing style is decent, are you writing a book on this?

>> No.16744899

if jannies wish to be fair, they would ban this thread for having a non-lit related pic. do your jobs faggots

>> No.16745016

>>16742164
As someone suffering from you leftists 'semi-schizo malaise' I think your points here are pretty astute. I broadly agree with your diagnoses. That being said, you indicate one of the biggest issues that any serious attempt at a Marxist 'firmware update' runs into:
>existence of the professional managerial class
Even once we accept the existence of some sort of 'PMC' the task still remains to define it. Generally, I think it refers to a degreed, white collar class of mostly urban workers who do not necessarily own capital but still cleave towards bourgeoise interests because of cultural issues or simply higher wages. However, I still see a lot of unsatisfactory argument online about who, exactly, is PMC and who not. What complicates things even more is some jobs that usually get lumped into the category, like teachers, lawyers, office drones and even professors are increasingly seeing a divergence between low-paid, precarious jobs and the more secure traditional track. I have heard an argument from some labor studies people that this can potentially be considered a 'proletarianization' of large swathes of the PMC, sort of akin to the deskilling and proletarianization of professional craftsmen and shopworkers with the advent of taylorism in the early 20th century.
Do you think there is the potential for the PMC in western countries to be broadly lowered back into something more akin to a proletariat, or is this just wishful pining for the more simple labor relations of Marx's day?

>> No.16745044

>>16742164
didn't read, nice pic

>> No.16746020

>>16742173
It's Kate Beckinsale's daughter, you tard.

>> No.16746036

>>16742164
Reading this just blackpilled me further into postleftism.

>> No.16746038

>>16742296
Why wont you support the based team?

>> No.16746051

>>16742164
Good post

>> No.16746161

Good post
How old is that girl?

>> No.16746164

>>16742164
Giantess image angle

>> No.16746403

>>16743430
fuck off logo

>> No.16746417

>>16742241
>no belongs no Byzantium option
dropped

>> No.16746676

>>16746417
thats Kaworu retard

>> No.16746711

>>16742165
Do it.

>> No.16746883

>>16746676
Clearly he's a fucking L*tin

>> No.16746924

>>16742164
anons wtc more pics like this???

>> No.16747145
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16747145

>>16742164
No no, planned economy is over. Chinese style command economy or Swedish style corporatist economy is the future. As long as it catches mice, who cares?

>> No.16747192

>>16742164
Damn Greta lookin' fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnne

>> No.16747204

Salo poasting

>> No.16747216

>>16746924
initiate courting process with a female and then petition for said female to send you pictures in a similar fashion

>> No.16747913

>>16747216
I used to do this but since corona and fucking up my shoulder I've reverted to skinny and sheltered inside mode plus I'm still in lockdown rn many months later. Until I can rebuild body+self-esteem I must rely on inspo pics.
Now tell me, this girl, where do I find her?

>> No.16748136

>>16742164
i understood next to nothing. can you or someone else explain it to me with less big words? i really want to understand what all this means.

>> No.16748318

>>16748136
I didn't understand anything. I think it's just pseudo intellectual rambling.

>> No.16748349

>>16742164
Wtf is the ‘post left’ and why are you equating twitter schizos with real life politics?

>> No.16748367

>>16748136
Basically he’s an orthodox Marxist-Leninist that wrote a word salad about how much he hates liberals

>> No.16748388

>>16742164
no matter how much you try to make this thesis sound smart, its never going to. at least you're not bothering to pretend to be the "real marxists" anymore.

you really don't know what epistemology means btw. "epistemological issue" is not a fancy synonym for being wrong.

>> No.16748389

>>16742164
Write more and post more angles, preferably with camel toe.

>> No.16748395

>>16748367
unfortunately no hes a dumb right winger trying to persuade marxists to the right. he caught onto the fact that marxists usually talk to each other like this when they're making arguments, but didn't bother to learn what the words mean when we use them.

>> No.16748408

>>16748318
No, you just got filtered. Hard.

>> No.16748416

>>16748408
Retard

>> No.16748453

>>16742165
hahahaha you write a book that can normalize monarchy among the normies in America, in one generation you would be a fucking cartoon LEx Luthor super genius rofl

>> No.16748459

>>16748416
Great reply xD (*~*) [^_^]

>> No.16748476

This is EXACTLY WHY this brand new right-wing dissident movement is the only hope the West has to resist the onslaught of capital. The Left is completely subverted by liberalism, it has nothing left to offer except its critiques to the radical right. Only the post-modernists' critiques of capitalism and liberalism combined with an understanding of the jewish question can sufficiently explain the conundrum's of today's West. Only the right is able to make this critique, and only the right is able to create new structures to replace the crumbling old. It must be done.

>> No.16748484

>>16742165
That book already exists, it's called Mein Kampf

>> No.16748485

>>16748453
Read the sentence again.

>> No.16748616

>>16748395
You retards dont known what they mean either that's why there are 6 million marxists groupscules and theorycels each defending their own brand of marxism.

>> No.16748811

>>16744846
Butts, you should be embarassed to have that GIF.

>> No.16749061
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16749061

>>16748811
I have access to the internet from here ya know.
It’s already in the bin

>> No.16749766

I can't believe it's still a secret that all political economy development so far has been mercantilism.

The state capitalism policy under Lenin (NEP) was mercantilism. China is mercantilism. The emergent UK and US were mercantilism. The Asian tigers? Yes you guessed it mercantilism.

>inb4 someone who doesn't know anything about the reality of mercantilism tries to say something

That the socialist nations didn't win in the past also means nothing. It has literally never ever meant anything. How many times did the bourgeoisie try and fail to take over the aristocracy? The proletariat only need to establish their own dictatorship until there are no bourgeois states, no need to update any theory.

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>> No.16749797

>>16749061
Good, because I saved it.

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>BBBBBBRRRRRRRAAAAAAAPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPFFFFFF

Oh yes...very good!....very sloppy and wet my dear....hmmmmm...is that a drop of nugget I see on the rim?...hmmmm.....let me.....let me just have a little taste before the sniff my darling.......hmmmmm....hmm..yes....that is a delicate bit of chocolate my dear....ah yes....let me guess...curry for dinner?....oh quite right I am....aren't I?....ok....time for

>> No.16749817
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>>16749797

>> No.16749827

>>16749817
>tfw no hips
feels bad ma'am

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>>16749817
>>>>Girlooooo

>> No.16749911

>>16742164
for all THIRSTY COOMERS
She's called
> Liliy Mo Sheen
https://www.instagram.com/lily_sheen/

>> No.16750303

>>16742164
Why can't women just be normal? Why do they have to behave like this? Now I'm going to have a unyielding erection for the whole day and there is nothing I could do about it.

>> No.16750355

>>16750303
Have you tried putting a cold object, like a soda can, at the base to constrict blood flow promoting flacididty?

>> No.16750357

>>16742164
imagine the smell

>> No.16750755

>>16748349
Because he's a cloistered pseud moron who thinks that people like Vaush represent the philosophical underpinnings of the modern Left, and completely ignores Massumi, Stengers, Han etc.

>> No.16750969

>>16750303
Literally just do some squats, pushups, or plank for a minute
Diverts the bloodflow away from cock

>> No.16750987

>>16750303
raise on your tiptoes (do it while sitting if you cannot do it standing) 30secs-1min is enough.

>> No.16750989

I know reading is hard, and thinking harder, but...
Political discussion belongs on /pol/

>> No.16751016

>>16750989
Political philosophy is philosophy sweetheart, now fuck off.

>> No.16751028

>>16744846
>>16749061
>>16749817
Why are women like this? If you killed every single lesbian on Earth, the only net effect is less mouths to feed.

>> No.16752266

>>16742164
>fairly
stopped reading right there