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“The levelling of the European man is the great process which cannot be obstructed; it should even be accelerated. The necessity of cleaving gulfs, distance, order of rank, is therefore imperative —not the necessity of retarding this process. This homogenizing species requires justification as soon as it is attained: its justification is that it lies in serving a higher and sovereign race which stands upon the former and can raise itself this task only by doing this. Not merely a race of masters whose sole task is to rule, but a race with its own sphere of life, with an overflow of energy for beauty, bravery, culture, and manners, even for the most abstract thought; a yea-saying race that may grant itself every great luxury —strong enough to have no need of the tyranny of the virtue-imperative, rich enough to have no need of economy or pedantry; beyond good and evil; a hothouse for rare and exceptional plants.”

>> No.16741327

>>16741281
Destroying old hierarchies to prop up newer, better ones.

The technocrats or natural aristocracy destroying the old order (old nations, old titles) will prop themselves up at the top of the new order.

>> No.16741338

>>16741327
His description gives off the feeling of an dystopian cyberpunkish elite overclass

>> No.16741346

an atheist pan-europeanism destroyer of nationalism and secularized-christian-morality liberalism

>> No.16741357

>>16741327
Will the underclass be content with their disposition? Are we living in Nietzsche's imagination right now? Bread & Circus galore

>> No.16741379

>>16741281
He was envisioning a perpetual, eternally-recurring Hollywood of the species, founded on the democratic and muttified reform of Europe.

>> No.16741391

>>16741357
>Will the underclass be content with their disposition?
N thinks that people who less sensible to pain should take care of the harder works while those who are weak and prone to suffer should be in the less physical activities. That way everyone suffers the same lol. This is in human, all too human, iirc

>> No.16741396

>>16741338
He is pretty elitist, yes.

He'd probably like seeing billionaires racing each other to space.

But seeing those same people making asses of themselves on social media for the masses to see would likely dampen his optimism.

>> No.16741443

>>16741281
Levelling of European man = forcing him to be a more and more specialized gear of civilization.
This homogenizing species requires justification = civilization requires a purpose.
its justification is that it lies in serving a higher and sovereign race = the worker-bee species works to support the great men of culture.

>> No.16741453

>>16741396
>>16741338
This is not at all what Nietzsche means. Jeff Bezos isn't included in the race of people Nietzsche is talking about in this last part.

>> No.16741464

>>16741453
Irregardless it looks like Jeff Bezos and the Zucc are the types of people who we got as overlords

>> No.16741649

>>16741464
They're overlords of the transitional period. We're not yet at the stage Nietzsche is envisioning the species will reach.

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16742749

>>16741281

>> No.16743011

>>16741281
>Not merely a race of masters whose sole task is to rule, but a race with its own sphere of life, with an overflow of energy for beauty, bravery, culture, and manners, even for the most abstract thought; a yea-saying race that may grant itself every great luxury —strong enough to have no need of the tyranny of the virtue-imperative, rich enough to have no need of economy or pedantry; beyond good and evil; a hothouse for rare and exceptional plants.”
i love how nihilists want al the perks of theism after destroying any meaning in order to avoid boredom

those hedonistic assholes are the biggest frauds on the planet

>> No.16743065
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16743065

the 19th century was a mistake

>> No.16743119

>>16743065
egalitarianism was a mistake

>> No.16743583

>>16743011
>implying theism created any of that

>> No.16743780

>>16741453
>>16741649
>there are no pure races, but only races which have become purified, and even these are extremely rare
There is only the transitional period, only the perpetual struggle.

The elites after these will also be replaced and this will keep repeating until we're all dead.

Elites racing each other to the stars is still a new height of grandeur to be marveled by. Hopefully there would be further ones and when these wellsprings of opulence are spent they'll be brought down to make room for the next.

>> No.16743808

>>16743583
what?

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>>16743780
>blocks your path

>> No.16744185

"levelling" was the German street term for being cucked btw.

>> No.16745584

Bumping because I'm going to try writing something in a bit.

>> No.16745745

>>16745584
Do it, I'm waiting

>> No.16747525

>>16744185
dood

>> No.16748666

>>16745745
Ok, I'm having computer problems and went to the woods. Give me a bit.

>> No.16748761

>>16741649
There will only ever be a transitional period. Men of culture scorn petty riches. Da Vinci wasn't trying to rule the world, the man just liked painting and thinking. Goethe never wanted everyone at his feet, he just liked poetry and biology. Spinoza or Leibniz never wanted to strive after copius amounts of money and riches, they wanted to improve their intellect. Nietzsche's stupid pipe-dream will never be reached, and he wasn't aware of this because he was a bad psychologist. See Spengler noting Nietzsche's own romanticism for Cesare Borgia, a man so contrary to the man of culture Spengler needs to bring up Nietzsche's pathetic outlook like five times throughout Decline of the West.

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>>16748761
You sound a bit confused. Nietzsche agreed on some of this (can't remark on Spengler). I recommend reading pic related. Nietzsche's political project has actually been quite successful so far.

>> No.16748835

>>16741281
Sounds like basic social darwinism to me.

>> No.16750047

>>16748835
Sounds like you need to read.