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>> No.16721673

>>16721666
Strictly for the YA or beginner crowd. If you are beyond 25 you shouldn't be reading him.

>> No.16721676

>>16721666
Didn't live a tough life

>> No.16721678

>>16721673
>the average John Green fan

>> No.16721700

>>16721666
>666
hello satan

but seriously, he's a good writer, better than most. I would imagine that the reason he gets shit on here (see: >>16721673) is because his writing is simple enough for 'normies' to understand and appreciate at face value. But the guy literally coined the 'Iceberg Theory' term so I would imagine that most normies reading his stories aren't reading in-between the lines for the deeper meanings hidden within. The fact that he was able to even communicate some kind of deeper meaning with such a simple and direct writing style is a testament to his skill as a writer.

>> No.16721710

I think he’s a fine writer and his importance in shaping the modern novel is something to be respected.

>> No.16721714

>>16721700
Did he actually coin the term or he simply described his style and some 'critic' put a name to it?

>> No.16721716

>>16721700
>reading in-between the lines for the deeper meanings hidden within

do they really exist or are they just imagined by the reader who is compensating for the paucity of information?

>> No.16721717

>>16721673
>wahhhh I cant impress anybody with my literary prowess by reading hemingway so whats the point wahhhhh

>> No.16721719

>>16721666
I'm amazed that some of his novels are still sold in those first-edition covers. Pretty cool.

>> No.16721725

>>16721714
>>16721716
to answer both your questions at once:
>The iceberg theory or theory of omission is a writing technique coined by American writer Ernest Hemingway. As a young journalist, Hemingway had to focus his newspaper reports on immediate events, with very little context or interpretation. When he became a writer of short stories, he retained this minimalistic style, focusing on surface elements without explicitly discussing underlying themes. Hemingway believed the deeper meaning of a story should not be evident on the surface, but should shine through implicitly.

>> No.16721729

>>16721673
can you give me a list of writers who are for the YA crowd too?

>> No.16721737

>>16721673
What about Flannery O'Connor?

>> No.16721738

>>16721729
Bukowski
McCarthy
Vonnegut
Hunter S. Thompson

>> No.16721741

>>16721738
right so far. But I know you can give me more names.

>> No.16721745

>>16721737
She’s a good writer. If she gets hate recently it’s probably just because anons are paranoid that people are only praising her because BLM decided she was on the naughty list this Summer

>> No.16721746

>>16721729
Bolaño
Orwell
Cortázar

>> No.16721749

>>16721666
Very enjoyable.
The Old Man and the Sea is a fantastic book.

>> No.16721753

>>16721741
That’s all I’ve got without listing literal YA authors

>> No.16721758

>>16721729
Shakespeare
Tolstoy
Marx
Evola

>> No.16721761

>>16721753
lmao

so what's the criteria for Hemingway and the authors you listed here >>16721738 to be considered 'YA'? I'm interested to hear why you chose those authors specifically

>> No.16721764

>>16721753
I never hear Bukowski talked about expect by pseuds and kiddies getting into lit.

>> No.16721766

>>16721761
I wrote >>16721738 and >>16721753 but not >>16721673

>> No.16721770

>>16721666
Old man and the sea is one of my favorite books.

>> No.16721779

>>16721764
The only thing I know from Bukowski is:
>Lighting new cigarettes,
>pouring more
>drinks.

>It has been a beautiful
>fight.

>Still
>is.

Good poem. I like it.

>> No.16721799

>>16721673
kek
>>16721130

>> No.16721816

>>16721729
Me, eventually, but I embrace my future celebrity.

>> No.16722091

Just started A Farewell and I am genuinely impressed, I’ve reread every chapter in part one at least twice now (the first chapter maybe five or six times), there is a lot of subtext behind everything, especially the obvious shit. I do wonder if his style and influence may have unintentionally dumbed down pop-lit, but who cares, this guy had a brilliant mind and revolutionized our language

>> No.16722135

>>16721741
Pynchon is the quintessential YA author. His meme status on this board is a testament to that

>> No.16722736

>>16721666
He was in a fist fight with Orson Welles.

>> No.16723016
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16723016

>>16721666
Poor mans buk

>> No.16723248

>>16721666
sun also rises is my least fav book ever. pointless, no beauty, dull and boring. feels like a journal. absolutely no imaginative thing in it. old man and the sea is good, it feels like a classic

>> No.16724248

Hemingway is my favorite author. Pseuds just get mad because he doesn't write in convoluted prose. Love him so much I got a tattoo of the Sun Also Rises cover.

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16724290

>>16721779
>>16721764
Bukowski was a favourite of one of the greatest bloggers of all time.

>there are worse things than
>being Alone
>but it often takes decades
>to realize this
>and most often
>when you do
>it's too late
>and there's nothing worse
>than
>too late.
-- Charles Bukowski

>> No.16724301

>>16724248
post pic of tat

>> No.16725037
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16725037

>>16724301

>> No.16725063

>>16725037
i thought u was trolling, nice job nigga.

>> No.16725071

>>16721816
*celibacy

>> No.16725081

>>16725037
Hey, that's actually pretty good

>> No.16725085

>>16725037
unironically looks good

>> No.16725176

>>16721666
I read OP and for whom the bell toll but I really don't get the appeal. I will give a chance to old man and the sea but if that doesn't click either I will just ascribe him in the not for me category and move on. I may or may not proceed to call him shit in lit threads

>> No.16725241

>>16721673
hahah what? fuck you. im 28 and i just read TSAR. it was a good book