/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16717923]

>tfw Nabokov was reading Rimbaud, Verlaine and Wells at 10
/b/ros, I've got over a decade of reading to catch up with... I'm a retard

[Anonymous No.16717987]

>>16717923
This makes him the ultimate pseud, and also why he missed childhood and became a pedo. A child of ten doesn't have the brain or spiritual development to get anything from those writers

[Anonymous No.16717989]

>>16717987
Reading literary fiction as a child makes you a pedo?

[Anonymous No.16717992]

>>16717989
ESL?

[Anonymous No.16717993]

>>16717989
Missing childhood makes you a pedo. Later he married a Jewess who provided girls to him.

[Anonymous No.16718000]

>>16717989
>Reading literary fiction as a child makes you a pedo?
I think that's a kind of "Michael Jackson theory". The one where he didn't have a childhood and now try and overcompensate.

[Anonymous No.16718005]

>>16717992
Yes, I learned to speak the language of love before I learned to speak English... as all well-adjusted people do

[Anonymous No.16718007]

>>16717993
>Later he married a Jewess who provided girls to him.
Tell me more, humm.

[Anonymous No.16718010]

>>16718005

[Anonymous No.16718020]

and you read Rowling, so you are reading the modern equivalent.
Congrats! you are as patrician as nabokov.

[Anonymous No.16718071]

>not learning to read at 3 and being a jaded intellectual at 5
wtf are you even doing?

[Anonymous No.16718446]

>>16717923
Eh Nabokov wasnt that great. No example to lead yourself by

[Anonymous No.16718488]

>insert quote disparaging Dostoevsky that atheists insist you need to take seriously

[Anonymous No.16718520]

Nabokov was crazy rich, spoiled, and pampered as a child, of course he was.

[Anonymous No.16718529]

>>16717993
>missing childhood makes you a pedo
His childhood looks pretty comfy, from Speak, Memory. I mean he was reading, painting, chasing butterflies, stuff like that. I think he was just a pedo

[Anonymous No.16718574]

>>16717987
>he missed childhood and became a pedo
Most people miss childhood and don't become pedos, also source on him being a pedo, if it involves anyone between 12 and 20 (i.e. pubescent) it doesn't qualify to civilized people.
>A child of ten doesn't have the brain or spiritual development to get anything from those writers
We all know American children are retarded, but keep in mind this is specific to your country.

[Anonymous No.16718739]

>>16718071
Seriously if you aren't struggling with your first conscious existential crisis by 4.5-5 years old you're already a pseud and it's over

[Anonymous No.16718774]

>>16717923
Scion of aristocratic family has access to resources most don’t, who would have ever conceived of this?

[Anonymous No.16718816]

>>16718574
Pedo-apologist: the post

[Anonymous No.16718845]

>>16717923
Instead of wasting time with fiction, why don't you put the hours into math or physics? You know, things that actually help our civilization progress instead of whatever bullshit the humanities dept. have invented just to ensure the backbenchers get a degree.

[Anonymous No.16718911]

>>16718816
>t. feminist

[Anonymous No.16719014]

>read cervantes, dickens, hugo, lermontov in 5th grade
>didn't understand a word and couldn't recall a thing i read
I was still an intellectual as a kid, r-right bros?

[Anonymous No.16719034]

>>16719014
yeah dude don't worry it's all stored in your subconscious

[Anonymous No.16719059]

>>16717923
he didn't live a tough life like Bukowski (pbuh)

[Anonymous No.16719168]

>>16717923
Don't understand this mindset. Why do you /lit/ards view everything as a competition, catch up with what?

[Anonymous No.16719186]

>>16719168
t. Teen who hasn't live a tough life

[Anonymous No.16719239]

>>16719168
it's because of start with the greeks, muh western canon, flowcharts, etc. it's all a game. they've taken the thing that is the number one distraction from real life drudgery and turned it into just another rat race, a bunch of boxes to be ticked. speedrunning literature. no wonder they're so angry all the time

[Anonymous No.16719254]

>>16719186
Don't see how that relates. It's reading. I can't think of a more chill activity, yet you retards have to turn it into some SpeedReading competition. If you want to quantify all your hobbies and joylessly measure your words per minute that's your perogative, I just don't understand it.

[Anonymous No.16719368]

>>16719254
t. Teen who hasn't had a tough life

[Anonymous No.16719377]

>>16718911
>OH NO THE AGE OF CONSENT WAS RAISED!!!!!! I CANT RAPE MINORS ANYMORE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.16719399]

>>16719377
>all sex is rape
>t. Feminist

[Anonymous No.16719408]

>>16719399
>A CHILD CAN CONSENT GUYS T-TRUST ME

[Anonymous No.16719423]

>>16719377
>I'm a crypto-American and I think a pubescent teen can't wrap his or her mind around having sex because it feels good.

[Anonymous No.16719433]

>>16719408
Pubescent teens aren't children anymore retard, they've literally went through the biological change that's meant to allow for them to have sex. They've been having sex for the whole of history before feminist puritans decided that sexuality the law had to step in because sexual relations were impure if there was any inequality in "power", which means they literally all are inevitably.

[Anonymous No.16719444]

>>16719433
*they're literally gone through
*before feminist puritans decided that the law

[Anonymous No.16719449]

>>16719377

>rape
>consent

pick one retard

[Anonymous No.16719460]

>>16719408
>HUMANS ARE SEXLESS BEINGS UNTIL METAMORPHOSIS AT STATE MANDATED AGE OF CONSENT™

[Anonymous No.16719470]

>>16719034
We never really forget anything, we just can't recall it. I like the thought that I have all of Paradise Lost stored in my brain.

[Anonymous No.16719471]

>>16719433
>>16719444
Because "feminist puritans" wanted to eliminate little girls as a sexual threat.
Pure jealousy from old hags.

[Anonymous No.16719496]

>>16719460
>that armband
>prohibiting fucking children is totally like fascism!!
>t. Foucault

[Anonymous No.16719505]

>>16719470
Bergson thinks that, it's a nice idea but I'm not sure it's true. In case it's not, you'd better try to remember things Anon.

[Anonymous No.16719515]

>>16717923
And he was still not imaginative enough to write a character who wasn't a self-insert. Stephen King-tier.

[Anonymous No.16719530]

>>16719496
it's just to get a point across
unteralterbach was jew pilled
i mean it's made by krautchan ffs

[Anonymous No.16719557]

>>16719496
Foucault didn't think that. He was dumb but he didn't think that. After Discipline and Punish he precisely tried to describe how society was now normalizing and directed behaviour by redirecting desire rather than threatening and violently repressing actions. A bit like you do when your only response to things you dislike it to send social signals of "this is shameful" in public. Foucault was stupid to try to make this into a deep analysis of a new historical epoch though, and his general stance led him to something like an apology of late american liberalism in his late College de France lessons, reducing reactions against this normalizing process to having institutions step out and an "ethic of the self" allow people to discover through experimentation what was good for them. Which isn't exactly wrong as much as it is missing the entire reason for the existence of the State, of social institutions, and is frankly uninteresting.

[Anonymous No.16719575]

>>16719460
That game is a work of art.

[Anonymous No.16719583]

>>16719575
what the fuck am i looking at

[Anonymous No.16719592]

>>16719583
A loli-fucking based VN that satirizes german politics, moral panic, and chan culture.

[Anonymous No.16719593]

>>16719583
Not him, I still haven't played it, but it looks like based deutsche Kunst. So nice to share a frontier with these guys.

[Anonymous No.16719602]

>>16719592
name? even though i feel like i might end up on some list

[Anonymous No.16719606]

>>16719602
Bernd und das Rätsel um Unteralterbach, and you can just download it on their website https://unteralterbach.de/index.en.html#download

[Anonymous No.16719611]

>>16719592
For me, it's Maja.
The soundtrack also bops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFJ6TOFdArU&t=24m43s
>>16719602
>even though i feel like i might end up on some list
Hehe you must be new.

[Anonymous No.16719629]

>>16719557
He still fugged boi arse

[Anonymous No.16719631]

this thread what

[Anonymous No.16719642]

>>16719575
Why is stiglitz in the game?

[Anonymous No.16719659]

>>16719631
Fucking tourist

[Anonymous No.16719765]

>>16719557
pedo shit isnt shameful, its actively harmful

[Anonymous No.16719787]

>>16719765
it literally isn't

[Anonymous No.16719789]

>>16719575
>people i disagree with ugly
>noo ur just moral panicking hypocrite!!
wow...

[Anonymous No.16719791]

>>16719765
I don't call pedo what you call pedo. Also yes, it is shamed, in fact it's more shamed than obviously more harmful things, even accepting usual narratives. People will feel more righteous anger at a guy who abused a child than another who killed ten people or even tortured someone.

[Anonymous No.16719798]

>>16719789
>people i disagree with ugly
That's just the art style

[Anonymous No.16719810]

>>16719787
There is mountains of research to show it is. There are millions of cases of pedophiles ruining childrens lives. Why would anyone trust you? Let me guess, "its the stigma that does the damage"- typical unfalsifiable cope. As long as your reason exists as a self therapy method you are never going to have serious arguments or evidence on your side.

[Anonymous No.16719811]

>>16718911
Only plebs defend pedophilia in public. The based patrician stance is to shame pedos publicly whilst privately enjoying the finer things if you acquire my drift ;)

[Anonymous No.16719824]

>>16719791
ever hear or the "joker test"?
>kill people and even torture some.
>heehee what a cool villain
<what if he targeted exclusively black victims
>oMG WTF RACIST HORRIBLE HUMAN BEING
The morality today judges "racism" as an even bigger sin than murder and torture.

[Anonymous No.16719825]

>Although what causes pedophilia is not yet known, researchers began reporting a series of findings linking pedophilia with brain structure and function, beginning in 2002. Testing individuals from a variety of referral sources inside and outside the criminal justice system as well as controls, these studies found associations between pedophilia and lower IQs,[49][50][51] poorer scores on memory tests,[50] greater rates of non-right-handedness,[49][50][52][53] greater rates of school grade failure over and above the IQ differences,[54] lesser physical height,[55][56] greater probability of having suffered childhood head injuries resulting in unconsciousness,[57][58] and several differences in MRI-detected brain structures.[59][60][61]

[Anonymous No.16719834]

>>16719810
>There is mountains of research to show it is.
No there isn't.

[Anonymous No.16719845]

>>16719811
>The based patrician stance
It's the spooked faggot stance

[Anonymous No.16719853]

>>16719791
>nooo wtf why are people protective of children
a child matters more than an adult. that is common sense to people who have not had their brains rotted by decades of hedonistic mind poison

[Anonymous No.16719854]

>>16719810
Not him and I don't think sex with prepubescents should be legal because I think this muh science is unclear. But there is debate on it. Look at Rind et al. and the controversy around it.

[Anonymous No.16719867]

>>16719825
Studies of people convicted for possessing or producing CP show them having more often traits correlated with being a retard, what a shock!

[Anonymous No.16719868]

>>16719853
what you call "child" is subject to change in different periods of history

[Anonymous No.16719870]

>>16719845
lol ok pleb

[Anonymous No.16719878]

>>16719834
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse

there are things in life that matter more than you getting yourself off. it worked with fags, seething about being shamed, but nobody is going to feel sympathetic toward narcissists crying that they cant fuck kids.

[Anonymous No.16719891]

>>16719870
>posts pubescent girl and thinks it's pedophilia
You're spooked beyond repair.

[Anonymous No.16719895]

>>16719854
they are PRE pubescent. the debate ends there.

[Anonymous No.16719898]

>>16719891
Is that the only pic you have?

[Anonymous No.16719899]

>>16719878
>wikipedia link
Lol
Sex isn't abuse

[Anonymous No.16719902]

>>16719868
This is actual bullshit. Medieval england had age of consent laws. People know when someone has gone through puberty or not.

[Anonymous No.16719914]

>>16719898
no, it's my favorite stock image loli.
>>16719878
>denying a human being bodily autonomy
>yOu'rE a NaRcIsSt bRo

[Anonymous No.16719915]

>>16719899
>show evidence
>noooo not that website which collects thousands of studies
cope. the thing that usually exposes you retards is how you are literally incapable of self awareness. you cannot recognise your own bias and disposition to believe your own bullshit, you cannot recognise that "sex" has wildly different connotations from normal when its an adult manipulating a child into it.

[Anonymous No.16719918]

>>16719902
>Medieval england had age of consent laws.
yeah and it was twelve.

[Anonymous No.16719919]

>>16719914
>noo bro just ignore all the evidence and let me tell kids to touch me reeeee

[Anonymous No.16719921]

>>16719853
I'm sorry but no, I don't see how you can justify shooting fifty innocents as more defendable than child abuse. If anything, people actually apologize for mass murder of random innocents, too. There is an obvious disrepancy. I'm not assuming "one life is equal one life" here, or utilitarian calculus, or anything of the sort.

[Anonymous No.16719925]

>>16719915
a wikipedia link isn't evidence
You might as well link me a salon article
>the only way a minor can feel sexual attraction is manipulation
Wew

[Anonymous No.16719931]

>>16719919
where is the evidence

[Anonymous No.16719938]

>>16719471
this is the only right answer. hags still shame greater age differences within consensual, legal age relationships, see leo. it's a sexual strategy.

[Anonymous No.16719941]

>>16719921
Well if you make up retarded shit in your head that never happened im sure that helps your argument. People are hard wired to protect children. Their innocent state of being is something everyone misses when they grow up. Obviously people find it repugnant to see people who will manipulate their ignorant minds for a few moments of satisfaction and end their youth effectively there. You are autistic if you cant see the aversion to it

[Anonymous No.16719953]

>>16719931
>>16719925
>Child sexual abuse can result in both short-term and long-term harm, including psychopathology in later life.[14][26] Indicators and effects include depression,[9][27][28] anxiety,[11] eating disorders,[29] poor self-esteem,[29] somatization,[28] sleep disturbances,[30][31] and dissociative and anxiety disorders including post-traumatic stress disorder.[10][32] While children may exhibit regressive behaviours such as thumb sucking or bedwetting, the strongest indicator of sexual abuse is sexual acting out and inappropriate sexual knowledge and interest.[33][34] Victims may withdraw from school and social activities[33] and exhibit various learning and behavioural problems including cruelty to animals,[35][36][37][38] attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), conduct disorder, and oppositional defiant disorder (ODD).[29] Teenage pregnancy and risky sexual behaviors may appear in adolescence.[39] Child sexual abuse victims report almost four times as many incidences of self-inflicted harm.[40]
A study funded by the USA National Institute of Drug Abuse found that "Among more than 1,400 adult females, childhood sexual abuse was associated with increased likelihood of drug dependence, alcohol dependence, and psychiatric disorders. The associations are expressed as odds ratios: for example, women who experienced nongenital sexual abuse in childhood were 2.83 times more likely to suffer drug dependence as adults than were women who were not abused."[41]

A well-documented, long-term negative effect is repeated or additional victimization in adolescence and adulthood.[13][42] A causal relationship has been found between childhood sexual abuse and various adult psychopathologies, including crime and suicide,[18][43][44][45][46][47] in addition to alcoholism and drug abuse.[41][42][48] Males who were sexually abused as children more frequently appear in the criminal justice system than in a clinical mental health setting.[33] A study comparing middle-aged women who were abused as children with non-abused counterparts found significantly higher health care costs for the former.[28][49] Intergenerational effects have been noted, with the children of victims of child sexual abuse exhibiting more conduct problems, peer problems, and emotional problems than their peers.[50]

A specific characteristic pattern of symptoms has not been identified,[51] and there are several hypotheses about the causality of these associations.[9][52][53]

[Anonymous No.16719959]

>>16719938
Many such cases, sad!

[Anonymous No.16719963]

>Depending on the age and size of the child, and the degree of force used, child sexual abuse may cause internal lacerations and bleeding. In severe cases, damage to internal organs may occur, which, in some cases, may cause death.[77]
Infections

>Child sexual abuse may cause infections and sexually transmitted diseases.[78] Due to a lack of sufficient vaginal fluid, chances of infections can heighten depending on the age and size of the child. Vaginitis has also been reported.[78]
Neurological damage

Research has shown that traumatic stress, including stress caused by sexual abuse, causes notable changes in brain functioning and development.[79][80] Various studies have suggested that severe child sexual abuse may have a deleterious effect on brain development. Ito et al. (1998) found "reversed hemispheric asymmetry and greater left hemisphere coherence in abused subjects;"[81] Teicher et al. (1993) found that an increased likelihood of "ictal temporal lobe epilepsy-like symptoms" in abused subjects;[82] Anderson et al. (2002) recorded abnormal transverse relaxation time in the cerebellar vermis of adults sexually abused in childhood;[83] Teicher et al. (1993) found that child sexual abuse was associated with a reduced corpus callosum area; various studies have found an association of reduced volume of the left hippocampus with child sexual abuse;[84] and Ito et al. (1993) found increased electrophysiological abnormalities in sexually abused children.[85]

Some studies indicate that sexual or physical abuse in children can lead to the overexcitation of an undeveloped limbic system.[84] Teicher et al. (1993)[82] used the "Limbic System Checklist-33" to measure ictal temporal lobe epilepsy-like symptoms in 253 adults. Reports of child sexual abuse were associated with a 49% increase to LSCL-33 scores, 11% higher than the associated increase of self-reported physical abuse. Reports of both physical and sexual abuse were associated with a 113% increase. Male and female victims were similarly affected.[82][86]

Navalta et al. (2006) found that the self-reported math Scholastic Aptitude Test scores of their sample of women with a history of repeated child sexual abuse were significantly lower than the self-reported math SAT scores of their non-abused sample. Because the abused subjects' verbal SAT scores were high, they hypothesized that the low math SAT scores could "stem from a defect in hemispheric integration." They also found a strong association between short-term memory impairments for all categories tested (verbal, visual, and global) and the duration of the abuse.[87]

[Anonymous No.16719966]

>>16719941
Again, I didn't say I had no aversion to the abuse of children, quite the opposite. It's just how you find it obvious that this aversion should be as intense as the one one would have towards a guy who kills 50 people that I don't understand. Our culture worships a lot of violence and gratuitous evil, and it makes an exception there. Don't tell me there is no disrepancy.

[Anonymous No.16719970]

>>16719471
>Pure jealousy from old hags.
I think that nails most of the outrage from the older females.

[Anonymous No.16719971]

>>16719953
sex != abuse

[Anonymous No.16719976]

>>16719963
sex != abuse

[Anonymous No.16719988]

>>16719953
>>16719963
This is assuming stuff like rape and penetration of prebuscents, which is obviously hurtful. Do you have stuff that at least distinguished the cases of (alleged, to be neutral there ; expressed even if you think it's actually not legitimate) consent and non-penetrative sexuality? It'd be more fair.

[Anonymous No.16719992]

>>16719976
>>16719971
Thats the point, fucking a kid is labelled as abusive because these things happen most of the time. I mean, try to step out of your coomer fantasy a moment. A pedophile has to idenitify a target, groom them for some time, and then explicitly introduce them to sex and ask of it off of them. At what point is this not an utterly one sided scenario? I have mountains of research backing me, no ulterior motive. It is just actual cope to deny these facts. There is more to life than sexual gratification

[Anonymous No.16720003]

>>16719966
this example of a guy killing 50 people is in your head though. both are violent acts. as well, our culture does fetishise violence, but you miss where it protects child abusers too. many celebrities and public figures have sketchy and well known pasts, like david bowie or whatever, and people ignore it and worship them anyway. it goes both ways

[hungryman !!5BI0oSV9uvS No.16720007]

ITT: People think they actually had a childhood because it was wasted on Star Wars and online videogames.

[Anonymous No.16720028]

>>16719988
How do you define consent with a child is an issue. If they get told to do it, or manipulated, do you call that consent since they have no idea of the concequences? Regardless, say they do, the vast majority of people who had sexual experiences in their early teens say they regret it, or end up emotional wrecks who feel used by everyone. As for non penetratative, I think the psycological point still stands, people supress memories of oral sex

[Anonymous No.16720030]

>>16720003
lmao David Bowie fucking a 13 years-old groopie isn't pedophilia. You're a living exemple of this double standard if you think a pubescent girl fucking her idol is abuse.
Now I agree the elites among the elites can do whatever they want, but do you really think that stops at pedophilia?

[Anonymous No.16720032]

>>16719970
Common bullshit reasoning is acting like your opponent has no rational reason to disagree.

[Anonymous No.16720036]

>>16719992
>A pedophile has to idenitify a target, groom them for some time, and then explicitly introduce them to sex and ask of it off of them.
This post shows how retarded you are.
Le ebin pedo stalking school yards grooming elementary schoolers is a myth.
Vast majority of child sexual abuse cases happen within family and friends. 2/3 of which happen to children over the age of 12 which also removes the "pedophilia" aspect of it.

Your "mountains of evidence" only talk about forceful scenarios and make some asine statements like "sex abuse victims have lower SAT scores"

[Anonymous No.16720040]

>>16720030
arent you coping here? you were talking about what the mainstream thinks, and the mainstream considers 13 a child. so it refutes your idea of the masses being hypocrites

[Anonymous No.16720041]

>>16720028
I don't disagree, what you say makes sense. But you also discarded the "social perception of it" factor. I know you'll just reject it, but what if growing up in a culture that says this is the greatest evil is why people often suddenly, later in life, "discover" how awful what they experienced was?

[Anonymous No.16720047]

>>16720036
>muh statistics of settled cases
No. You seem quite desperate to defend though, I wonder why.

[Anonymous No.16720053]

>>16720036
>2/3 are within 12-17

[Anonymous No.16720062]

>>16720036
>only talks about forceful
How do you know? Where did it say? Or are you being selective about what you personally consider abuse, even when evidence disagrees? And secondly, that just further proves my point. People in positions of power and trust with easy access. Fucking retard. How do you read this shit and not realise how predatory it is

[Anonymous No.16720065]

>>16720047
>muh statistics of settled cases
?

[Anonymous No.16720071]

>>16720040
Good point, I typed too fast. I still have an intuition there's a hypocritisy there, but you may be right that it's because I autistically just think about what's good and bad rationally instead of putting myself in the shoes of the average person and see where their empathy naturally goes.
That just displaces the debate on what exactly should be called pedophilia and what to think of it though, but I admit the hypocrisy I first assumed, I may wrongly have assumed it for the aforementionned reason.

[Anonymous No.16720072]

>>16719810
>typical unfalsifiable cope.
No, it is not. Is a totally FALSIABLE claim.
We have another cultures and another times to show. Most societies until not so long ago worked just right allowing sex with teenagers/pubescents.

[Anonymous No.16720079]

>>16720053
1/3rd of 10 million is still quite an amount
Or is the abuse of those under 12 completley negated because there are more reports from older children?

[Anonymous No.16720083]

>>16720041
Because there is no evidence for it, it is totally irrational and infact evidence flies in the face of it. Many children being fucked by someone will show clear signs, constantly seeming uncomfortable with their genitals and grabbing at them, making themselves look unnattractive on purpose, behaving abnoramally. This is how abusers are caught most of the time. They show signs of mental damage before they are aware of any "stigma", which is why it has become a stigma. The only reason to think a stigma causes damage in a childs mind (who barely understands it) is wanting to believe the evidence is wrong for biased reasons

[Anonymous No.16720090]

>>16720072
What socities? Muslim goat herders?
You are a pedophile and it's clear as day kys pedo

[Anonymous No.16720094]

>>16720062
>Depending on the age and size of the child, and the degree of force used
>Various studies have suggested that severe child sexual abuse
>Some studies indicate that sexual or physical abuse
All this about child rape victims. It wouldn't be mixing in physical abuse otherwise.
>>16720079
Majority of child abusers aren't pedophiles. Even pedophile is overused retarded word because it denotes exclusive attraction and girls (who are the vast majority of abuse victims) begin puberty anywhere from 7-10

[Anonymous No.16720096]

>>16720072
convieniently all times where people had no idea what mental illness was outside of the town lunatic and generally behaved in totally inhumane ways in a lot of cases. im not even a liberal and I can accept that

[Anonymous No.16720101]

>>16720083
>children being fucked by someone
I don't want to be autistic, but I thought we'd agreed we'd put to the side *obviously* harmful things like penetration of prebuscents or sex with no expressed consent. I don't doubt those symptoms all show up from the beginning in those cases, do they show from the beginning as well in the others?
I don't really want to keep this going though unless you have a specific answer to my question there, because I'm not in the business of defending sex with prepubescent, I think lacking strong evidence that it can be ok it should be forbidden.

[Anonymous No.16720102]

>>16720094
its not mixing shit, it tells you in each case what the type of abuse was.

[Anonymous No.16720103]

>>16720094
>a child abuser isn't a pedophile
Yes they are. A child is a child anon.
Why are you even arguing for and defending these child abusers? Trying to pretty up your mental illness?

[Anonymous No.16720105]

>>16720090
>What socities? Muslim goat herders?
retard
Did you pay attention in any European history class?

[Anonymous No.16720114]

>>16720105
Ah yes bum fuck Serbs who are most likely inbred and live in a forest.
Such civilizations. Much prestige.

[Anonymous No.16720115]

>>16720103
Fucking a 15 year old is pedophilia?
They're legally minors, and the case would be treated as abuse.
I'm a pedophile rapist in america but a law abiding citizen in europe?

[Anonymous No.16720117]

>>16720101
by "fucked" I mean anything involving their genitals, I worded that poorly. what im saying is, they show signs of mental abberation quickly, before anyone even knows to step in and produce a stigma or whatever. Secondly, its common practice in most countries NOT to go into details with the child, nor goad them into admitting anything, but simply act on what they say and give them therapy when they are older if they want it. For some reason pedophiles act like these protocols dont exist

[Anonymous No.16720124]

I gotta go now. Im sorry if I was over insulting to people but nonces just annoy me since I deal with their shit as part of my job. bye

[Anonymous No.16720129]

>>16720114
Those are americans in the pic.
Remember Helen of Troy? Do you know how old she was?

[Anonymous No.16720133]

>>16720114
Or self employed American farmers, the most wealthy European "populus" from the 17th to early 20th century. But I don't think these marriages at early age were sexual before pubescence, I'd suppose they weren't supposed to be.

>>16720117
Good point, I think you're right.

[Anonymous No.16720140]

>>16720124
You're a dumb faggot and you should feel bad.

[Anonymous No.16720147]

>>16720129
Greeks weren't rhe height of civilization either
They stole from the east and yes they were degenerate hedonists
Still can't believe you are tryijg to defend it. You really must be a pedo

[Anonymous No.16720149]

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To be fair pretty much everyone was. They didn't have stuff like Harry Potter or whatever so everyone just read classics.