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I'm about to start the Reign of Quantity, it will be my fifth Guenon book (yay!), but then I noticed this: why isn't this guy talking bad about Freemasonry? I heard masons and jews were the bad guys.

Explain this!!!

>> No.16713956

You shouldn't expect authors to all have the same opinions or level of knowledge. Guenon is good but if you think he's the be-all-end-all you're only limiting yourself unnecessarily.

>> No.16714118

>>16713878
he was a mason desu

>> No.16714141

>>16713878
Masons were doing limited run prints of his diaries. That's what you're reading, m8. No masons, no guenon journals.

>> No.16714157

He's aware that there are Mason sects that practice evocation and magic but he believes that these and other purely profane Mason lodges are not true masonry but are a degenerated form of masonry. And that this authentic masonry is initiatic proper and does have connections to the primordial tradition. But he is also aware that this degenerate masonry is the norm nowadays.

>> No.16714172

>>16713878
Lol bro, just write a book with literally every redpill possible

That'll help you not get assassinated

>> No.16714177

guenon is very gay this board should start reading guys like Zolla or Dumezil or other actually cool traditionalists

>> No.16714178

>>16713878
Can someone explain to me how Guenon exposed the obvious counter-tradition of theosophy et all, but not something as deistic as masonry? Did he ever discuss this?

>> No.16714234

>>16714157 (cont.)

When Guenon talks about masonry he usually means it in the sense of this true masonry and not the masonry you see prevalent today. He does this because these initiatic craft guilds are the closest thing we have in the west to initiation proper that is well known. Even if they are degenerated to the point of anti-tradition. It's explained in his prologue in 'Perspectives on Initation'.

>> No.16714374

>>16714157
>>16714234
Weren't they involved in like every attempt to subvert tradition in the West since they were born?

>> No.16714404

>>16714374
You do know what perennialism is right?

>> No.16714418

>>16713956
>>16714172
Retards who think muh jews and muh mason are fascinating, surprising things to put in a book.

>>16714374
"They" for masonry is like "they" for, idk, white people. There are two (three, desu) sides to Masonry like there are two (three, desu) sides to Western civilisation.

>> No.16714435

>>16714418
>"They" for masonry is like "they" for, idk, white people.
t. jewish mason

>> No.16714443

>>16714418
>"They" for masonry is like "they" for, idk, white people. There are two (three, desu) sides to Masonry like there are two (three, desu) sides to Western civilisation.
who told you to type like such a fucking faggot?

>> No.16714449
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16714449

>this literal who yet again

>> No.16714516

>>16714418
Wooopsie, I meant "(((they)))"

>> No.16714517

>>16714374
I could be wrong but I'm just trying to honestly represent Guenon's view about masonry. His logic is coherent because he also says that there were once many craft initiations as well as Traditional sciences that both had metaphysical dimensions to it. Masonry is just prevalent in our minds because it survived to the modern era. Whereas many other such crafts and sciences didn't. I don't endorse masonry at all for obvious reasons and I admit I don't have enough historical information about masonry to come to an absolute conclusion about it. But I do think Guenon has some very interesting things to say about it.

>> No.16714596

>>16714435
>>16714516
You retards will pretend whites aren't more often "leftist degenerates" than most population on earth and project it all on Jews. Take some responsibility for what you dislike in your own society.

>>16714443
This board autocorrects "T B H" to "desu". You should know that. I forget it sometimes.

>> No.16715483

>>16714596
>This board autocorrects "T B H" to "desu". You should know that. I forget it sometimes.
I'm certain he knew that.