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[Anonymous No.16712844]

It's November Edition

What are you currently reading?
Shill some of it if it's good.
What are you waiting on to be released?

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[Anonymous No.16712847]

Why did Gentleman Bastards have to become so cucked?

[Anonymous No.16712854]

>>16712844
Dubliners by James Joyce. Very good, I recommend to everybody

[Anonymous No.16712874]

The new Undying Mercenaries book is out, Edge World. I powered through it in an afternoon. The pacing is a bit worse than usual and it gets bogged down in a bit too much mindless action, but it was bombastic stupid fun just like the rest of the series so who cares. A bit of plot progression, a lot of McGill Creature dying, and a bunch of explosions.

[Anonymous No.16712888]

>>16712874
After the author retconned an entire two books and pretends like McGill was never on the highest council of earth, I dropped the books. The cunt Carlos doesn't even rub him about falling so far.

[Anonymous No.16712923]

>the only interesting character hasn't been around for several books now
Why is he doing this?

[Anonymous No.16712933]

>>16712844
>What are you currently reading?
Piranesi, it's good.
>What are you waiting on to be released?
Stormlight 4.

[Anonymous No.16713096]

Any good Horus Heresy books released in the past 5 years?

[Anonymous No.16713137]

>>16712844
Can someone please just tell me if the book of the new sun is a meme or not

[Anonymous No.16713144]

>>16713137
Meme. Any other questions?

[Anonymous No.16713147]

>>16713144
nah, thanks. ill put it to the back of the line.

[Anonymous No.16713165]

>>16713147
If you were convinced that easily by a random shitposting anon then BOTNS would've filtered you anyway. Good job.

[Anonymous No.16713174]

>>16713165
Ah, ok nevermind. I'll put it back near the front of the line.

[Anonymous No.16713187]

...... E William Brown
No Fucks....

[Anonymous No.16713190]

>>16713174
Anon... you were just convinced by the shitposter who pushes the meme on new people to scare them off sff and never come here again. Don't let him meme you.

[Anonymous No.16713203]

>>16713190
Oh, sorry, my bad. He almost had me. I'll read something else instead, thanks.

[Anonymous No.16713265]

>>16712847
It was always kinda shitty

[Anonymous No.16713325]

>>16713203
No, read it. I really liked it.

[Anonymous No.16713460]

BRANDOOM SANDERSTORM

[Anonymous No.16713470]

>>16713137
>>16713147
>>16713174
>>16713203
Check out this dead thread >>16698837

[Anonymous No.16713675]

>listen to great book on audible
>the sequel has a different, inferior narrator
For why do this

[Anonymous No.16713761]

>>16713470
Is this a troll thread, or are people really this stupid?

[Anonymous No.16713892]

>>16712844
Between Two Fires.
It's been entertaining so far.

[Anonymous No.16713896]

>>16712923
I forget which book but when he went full nazis on the moon mode I realized Stross is a libtard and a waste of time

[Anonymous No.16713979]

>>16712844
Sienkiewicz's Deluge. Its pretty comfy, and the protag is an absolutely based retard.
>be Kmicic, Protag
>be forced into an arranged marriage with a woman you actually love
>life is good
>decide to celebrate by destroying the house her grandfather gave you
>friends rape all the village children with your consent
>kill all the villagers after they kill your friends
>be surprised when she never wants to see you gain
>kidnap her
>get head split open by the greatest swordman in the land, a 5"2 manlet

Wait, maybe its not comfy at all...

[Anonymous No.16714030]

>>16713896
That was the third one I think.
It becomes even less subtle in the later books.
>diverse team of marvel superheroes
>interdimensional elf asylum seekers
Bob and Angleton were the only redeeming characters in his books and they've been completely sidelined in order to "create mystery" around them or some shit.
Sucks because I found the first books to be a fun guilty pleasure alongside Dresden Files.

[Anonymous No.16714084]

>>16712844
Isaac Arthur got me interested in Bobiverse.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.16714097]

>>16712844
People cry about how high the rail and profile of the fn57 is except people who own suppressors

[Anonymous No.16714104]

Someone recommended the windup girl and I ha ent finished it yet but the Asian sex slave scene made me laugh a little bit knowing the author went to Thailand for inspiration

[Genuine question for burgers No.16714133]

A few threads ago I said I'd come back with a review of sorts of pic related. I'm very torn. I'd give this a 5.5/10 (true 0-10 scale, not school-like, "5 is failing" scale.)

The author has solid descriptive power, except with a few recurring quirks that become tiresome by the end (i.e. "Follow me, you moron." [end of paragraph, followed by] "The moron followed her to the place.")

The setting is interesting and the fights creative, but all scenes of import can't end without being invariably deflated by the main character making a quirky comment or a joke of such shit quality it burns my eyes despite the many layers of lampshade the author tries to hang on it.

What initially seems like a fantasy whodunit quickly devolves into anime (the bad kind) fights where physical limitations are superseded by the power of friendship even though there's a perfectly serviceable magic system to justify it, Unfortunately the author seems more focused on twisting the story to make her unlikable main character look cool, and her bitch of a soul-sister not like a pompous retard.

won't even get into the inconsistencies of the magic, and how it seems to strain the casters in very arbitrary ways except when the author deems it's time for an attempt at a tear-jerking moment.

Finally, I can't help but notice that this "lesbian necromancer" story starts with a diverse cast of characters, but has a climax and denoument where Everybody is dead except the strong independent wahmen.

Anyone else read through this? Should I give the second book a try?

[Anonymous No.16714148]

The television program was suddenly interrupted for a news bulletin. It
wasn't clear at first as to what the bulletin was about, since the announcer,
like all announcers, had a serious speech impediment. For about half a
minute, and in a state of high excitement, the announcer tried to say,
"Ladies and Gentlemen."

He finally gave up, handed the bulletin to a ballerina to read.

"That's all right-" Hazel said of the announcer, "he tried. That's the big
thing. He tried to do the best he could with what God gave him. He should get
a nice raise for trying so hard."

[Anonymous No.16714272]

>>16712844
>What are you currently reading?
One of the Malazan Empire books, Blood and Bone
Rubicon: The Last Years of the Roman Republic
>Shill some of it if it's good.
Not /sffg/ related but I'd still shill Rubicon. I know fuckall about history and its been a good start on the Romans for me.
>What are you waiting on to be released?
Bakker's The No-God and book three of the Kharkanas Trilogy.

Not sure what to pick up after I'm done with the Malazan Empire books. Was thinking sci-fi. Any authors I'd possibly like if I've enjoyed most of Watts' books?

[Anonymous No.16714343]

>>16714272
I tried reading Malazan after Bakker and nearly killed my self. So I just started re reading second apoc. After only like 1 month.

[Anonymous No.16714403]

>Dios mío...Espíritu del Señor. Espíritu de Dios, Akhalarna, Csaivo, Ulis, Cstheio, ángeles, arcángeles y santos del paraíso, descended sobre mí. Expulsa de mí los maleficos, la magia negra, el ogro de las tinieblas, el luz extinguido, el barizhano... Por favor, destruye la infestación diabólica; todo lo que es mal, pecado, envidia, celos y perfidia; la enfermedad física, psíquica, moral, espiritual y diabólica... destruye al monstruo, a la creatura... Quema a este mal en el infierno, para que nunca más me toquen a mí ni a ningun ser. El chupa-chupacabras no puede triunfar, el monstruo, el abominación... debe morir... Aleja el aberración genetíca, el goblino de Ethuveraz... Amén.

It was not as bad as the resident brainlet 'reviewer' here has led me to believe, in fact it was pretty good, but I can see why it filters plebs

[Anonymous No.16714647]

I finally finished Wintersteel.
Penance was underwhelming. Yerin being a half-Herald and Lindon's Unsouled reveal were neat. The last chapter felt thrown together and rushed, especially with Orthos.

[Anonymous No.16714680]

>>16714647
Time for snake girl to get dragon dick.
Yerin and Mercy would probably kill the snake boy's sister.

I know Yerrin wants some of that Dragon Dick too.

[Anonymous No.16714756]

>>16714343
Yes we know, resident Bakker fanboy.

[Anonymous No.16714881]

>>16714272
>>16714343
>R. Scott Bakker
please leave this board

[Anonymous No.16714916]

>>16714881
How do you get filtered by Bakker?

[Anonymous No.16714999]

>>16714647
ALSO
Fury advancing to Monarch was a fun twist too

[Anonymous No.16715103]

>>16713896
That was the first book, don't pretend it was a breaking point for you lol

[Anonymous No.16715154]

Why is she so perfect, lads?

>Tfw no fantasy snuggle wife ;_;

[Anonymous No.16715167]

>>16715154
When is she reviewing Bakker?

[Anonymous No.16715172]

>>16715154
I'm not the most discerning reader but there isn't a single book in that pic that I actually think is good (haven't read city of brass)

[Anonymous No.16715174]

>>16715167
On BAKKED.COM

[Anonymous No.16715188]

>>16715154
The vids of her without makeup are pretty rough.

[Anonymous No.16715220]

>>16715188
Nah she still looks pretty. She just has acne, which makes her more endearing IMO.

[Anonymous No.16715290]

>>16715172
>He doesn't think I, Robot is good

[Anonymous No.16715302]

you got fat

[Anonymous No.16715451]

>>16712844
I'm reading Dune Messiah for the first time. It's alright - it feels pretty 'campy' compared to the first book, I can't quite describe it. It's less action and more political intrigue, and to be honest I'm not totally digging it. I do like Edric, the Guild Steersman, though. I am pushing through this book to get to the "weird" shit of Dune.

[Anonymous No.16715545]

what is the best short story anthology to wet my feet? I have the HoF anthology and its kinda meh but I've only read 3 stories so far. it can be multiple authors or just one dude. I've read philip k dick and jorge borges short stories and enjoyed them a lot more than people like isaac asimov or jack vance, for what its worth.
>>16711465
I said I don't care for jack vance you schmuck

[Anonymous No.16715567]

>>16715545
I like Ted Chiang a lot. really "crisp" prose and a wee bit philosophical.

https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/exhalation/

[Anonymous No.16715610]

Is there any fantasy novel that wasn't written for a female audience? Every fantasy book that I read is just characters talking to each other and literally no fucking action.

[Anonymous No.16715613]

>>16715610
Harry Potter

[Anonymous No.16715886]

>>16715567
I know this guy was into Wolfe. Where to start with him if I want novel length stuff?

[Anonymous No.16715893]

>>16715886
asaik Chiang only writes short stories, and he has two published collections of his works.

[Anonymous No.16715939]

>>16714084
I've finished the first book. I'm taking a break before finishing the trilogy. My quick review is that, it's a lot more sophisticated of a book than Ready Player One, which isn't saying much, but with the amount of populcture references, it's worth it to compare. It moves at a brisk pace, so even if you do roll your eyes at that kind of stuff, it's easy to ignore. I enjoyed it enough to continue on, which is more than I can say for other trilogies.

[Anonymous No.16715944]

Started trying to read Book of the Long Sun today but then I got such a depressed vibe I just had to put it back down. Man...I love Gene Wolfe but I've got so much going on in my personal life and in the global climate that I'm just not doing well psychologically and only see the sad things of his books.

What SFF do you read to make you happy, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.16715969]

>>16715944
hang in there buddy! you deserve to be happy

[Anonymous No.16715975]

>>16715567
That's real damn good.

[Anonymous No.16716024]

>>16713979
There was a film adaptation of it too, and it was great. Has one of the greatest sword duels ever filmed in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljExTEPNFnM

[Anonymous No.16716093]

>>16715944
its alright anon, its been a shit year. sanderson says his works are inherently optimistic, but if you dont want to read him you could try wheel of time.

[Anonymous No.16716558]

Man, this ended up being excellent. Thanks to the anon who rec'd it a few threads back.
The story is about 14th century France, during the black plague and a religious quest. I could make a great movie.
The angels and the devils were great. The chemistry between the main characters was probably the best I've read in a while. I wished it could've gone on for 200 or 300 pages longer. The loli's character was a great touch.
I didn't like a few things though. The way he styled "thoughts" or inner monologues without reference and just plain italics could've appeared more often and not too evidently a stroke of style. I think he was a little shy in describing medieval life and stayed too close to what's known historically. A bit more descriptiveness could've added more to the story, and made it slightly less generic, but still, the setting's atmosphere felt quite authentic.
If it wasn't for the ending it would've been another grimdark book with a nice party, smaller scale scenes and a few cool monsters, but it was superbly satisfying.

[Anonymous No.16716568]

>>16715545
Songs of Dying Earth

[Anonymous No.16716572]

>>16715567
what does crisp prose mean

[Anonymous No.16716606]

>>16714916
Because he writes drivel for bottomwits intended to make them feel like midwits.

[Anonymous No.16716644]

>>16716606
Noo, not the b-wits and the m-bits buzzwords! Please spare us, attention seeking friend.

[Anonymous No.16716662]

>>16716572
Clear, not flowery, flows briskly.

[Anonymous No.16716787]

Wow. The protagonists in The Wheel of Time sure are great friends.

[Anonymous No.16716792]

>>16716787
Mat gets his own back eventually.

[Anonymous No.16716822]

>>16716792
Nice.

[Anonymous No.16716872]

>>16715302
>tfw no thicc Targaryen waifu

[Anonymous No.16716876]

>>16715610
Go watch capeshit, actionpleb. Books are not for you.

[Anonymous No.16716954]

>>16712844
Finally found a copy of Space Chantey (packaged with Pity About Earth) after it was recommended in a Space Dandy thread years ago. Wish me luck. Although it's pretty good so far.

[Anonymous No.16716984]

>>16716024
I've never been a fan of disarming, that doesn't happen.

[Anonymous No.16716995]

currently reading the ghost writer because i love the polanski movie. Is all the old knives any good? theyre making a movie of it too and ive got it next on my list. Anyone got good espionage-related thrillers to rec?

[Anonymous No.16716998]

>>16716984
You're kind of missing the context there. Wolodyjowski is a *vastly* superior swordsman and he's toying with Kimicic, who basically thought he was the hottest shit in the universe. He's basically rubbing Kimicic's face in how badly he miscalculated.

[Anonymous No.16717050]

>>16714647
i thought it was pretty good but

everything surrounding his sister is really boring and cringe. Orthos should just go sleep in a cave for the rest of the series or some shit. I think the series will probably take a turn for the worse after this book but ill keep reading to see.

[Anonymous No.16717082]

>>16716998
No I get that, superiority was shown but goes overboard with disarming. You wouldn't drop a sword unless you don't know how to hold it.

[Anonymous No.16717106]

>>16716998
great cinematic sword fighting. I easily understood the characters - tall guy swings wildly and it's obvious that hes using to winning by simply being wilder than his opponent, while the short guy is taking him to school without any tricks.

[Anonymous No.16717120]

>>16712847
What do you mean by cucked? Read the first two ~10 years ago, can only half remember them but I remember they were fun.

[Anonymous No.16717125]

A little personal project, check it out if you will (its a sélection of SF shorts - classics and modernes under CC licence) :

sfss dot space

[Anonymous No.16717133]

>>16717125
Not a bad idea, but feel like the format could be more useful. A web 1.0 style list rather than a blog format might help finding half remembered stories. Or a tagging system. What do you plan to do with the mailing list?

[Anonymous No.16717141]

I finally finished Iain M. Banks' Culture novels after portioning them out to myself over the last few years.

Looking for something to fill the void now.

I've got Ancillary Justice on my shelf because I've seen it described as a successor to Banks' style. Anyone got any other recommendations?

[Anonymous No.16717148]

>>16716995
The Ghost Writer is a great movie, but do you realise you're posting in a sci-fi thread?

[Anonymous No.16717177]

>>16717133
>Not a bad idea, but feel like the format could be more useful. A web 1.0 style list rather than a blog format might help finding half remembered stories.

Could you detail a bit more the web 1.0 point ?


> Or a tagging system

There's one, tags are at the end of the posts. You can pick them in the "archives" page.

> What do you plan to do with the mailing list?

I don't have access to the list, the provider (write.as) ils privacy oriented. Also I've stopped working on it (no more ideas, not enough time).

[Anonymous No.16717185]

>>16717148
this is the genre fiction containment thread so i figured id go for it

[Anonymous No.16717190]

>>16715939
ty

[Anonymous No.16717208]

>>16717177
Here's an adjacent project - an online magazine that ran for a couple of years paying authors to write original SF short stories.

http://compellingsciencefiction.com/backissues.html

The main thing though is the format of that page lets me view everything on one page, I have a short bit of text to read that can help me pick my next story to read based on a pitch and it's length. It's concise and has been designed for the purpose.

Your current format is a reverse-chronological blog. I might care when these stories were written, but I certainly don't care when you uploaded them.

[Anonymous No.16717243]

>>16717208
is 8cents/word considered good or bad?

[Anonymous No.16717282]

>>16712844
Currently reading Replay per Yevs suggestion from last thread. Nearly half way through and so far it's easy, fun shlock.

[Anonymous No.16717286]

>>16716644
Hyperbole I admit, but what little I've read was unbearable drivel. Why don't you post an impressive excerpt to prove me wrong? I'd like to be proven wrong, you know.

[Anonymous No.16717362]

>>16715172
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.16717409]

>>16717141
im not a fan but try neil asher

[Anonymous No.16717791]

>What are you currently reading?
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. It's wonderful. It's one-third of the Millenium Trilogy. It's about a journalist and a hacker solving the case of a fourty-year old disappearance.
I'll read HP after finishing MT.

[Anonymous No.16717857]

I’m reading the Black Company, what do I think of it

[Anonymous No.16718155]

Just finished the fall of hyperion(the second book). And while it's not as good as the first, it was still good.
It actually gave answers, which is what I wanted. And the answers were mostly satisfactory. I'm glad the author had everything planned out, and didn't just leave everything open to interpretation. Which is the usual cop out for stories as complex as these. I kind of figured Rachel was Moneta in the first book. It was a suspicion I had, but didn't say anything. Now I'm upset I didn't say anything, because I would have looked hella smart if I did.

Pretty satisfying read, so I don't have much to say about it. Nothing really to complain about. Some lines were kind of cheesy though. Like See ya later alligator. Boy, was the author eager to use that one, and it just didn't feel right. And lions and tigers and bears. And somewhere over the rainbow.

The one thing I didn't quite understand, is what the empathic entity was supposed to be. Was that the same as the "one who comes after?" And the shrike were using the tree as a way to broadcast human agony, as a means to attract the empathy, and by doing so that is what gave them the power to travel though time? So they were like the antithesis to love? And by embracing love, one can tap into empathy, which gives special powers? And that's why Brawne Lamia could walk on air and turn a shrike to glass? Because she's pregnant with the one who comes next, giving her the ability to tap into the entropy field, but on the love wavelength, which neutralized the shrike?

See, I'm not going to pretend I understand it all. But I'm still satisfied with the answers I got.

Is there any reason not read Endymion? I'm considering just jumping into that one. I'm kind of expecting it to be different though. More super power oriented. Since that's what all the Ousters and future beings were like in Hyperion. Being genetically diverse superhumans. So it only makes sense that the following story would be like "this character has this ability, and that character has that ability"

[Anonymous No.16718190]

>>16717082
you have zero idea what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.16718255]

>>16712847
I only read em' like five-eight years ago, remember liking the first, it was comfy and fun. The two after it fucking sucked, don't know why I actually finished em'. Me not remembering most of the plot probably says a lot though, I usually do.

[Anonymous No.16718480]

>>16718155
>And while it's not as good as the first, it was still good.
>It actually gave answers, which is what I wanted. And the answers were mostly satisfactory.
I knew you were a brainlet when you admitted you don't understand time dilation, but this just takes the cake.

[Anonymous No.16718490]

>>16718480
Hey, I figured out the whole time debt thing. It took me a while to grasp it, but I grasped it. So I take it that you weren't very satisfied, huh? You feel like explaining your satisfaction? Or do you just want to posture about how smart you are?

[Anonymous No.16718519]

>>16714133
>Should I give the second book a try?
Generally, if I'm torn about reading a book, it means I don't want to read it. If you don't think "I can't wait to find out what happens next!", then what's the point?

[Anonymous No.16718564]

>>16718519
>If you don't think "I can't wait to find out what happens next!", then what's the point?
This doesn't really happen to me anymore with anything. I remember it happening as a child but now, only happens very seldom. I think part of it is that my life is so stressful that I can't truly relax and get immersed into something that requires so much concentration. I got that eagerness once this year with a TV show that came out, but nothing else.
Kind of jealous that some adults apparently still get this daily. I've heard abstaining from porn / coffee can help but I dunno if that's true or voodoo.

[Anonymous No.16718575]

>>16717286
I'm not going to bother. You don't want to be proven wrong and we both know it. Proof being you used the word "drivel" a second time, as if it had any meaning beyond "I didn't like this". Instead, you could have provided an honest explanation, but you didn't, because you're conditioned to not express any original idea for fear of being called out as filtered, etc. Why the fuck would I care to convince you?

Take this whatever way you want. Some of my favorite parts are in the first half of the first book, when the crusade or whatever is called forth, some of the battle scenes involving the barbarians (Scylvendi, I can't remember). Achamian's magic fight in the library is probably one of the most interesting depictions of magic without a stupid magic system I've read. Even if he's a Paul rip off, Kellhus is surrounded by pretty interesting imagery. And at least he doesn't resort to shitty monologues and cringe lines like the stupid litany of fear.
It has its faults. The prose can be too gray and overwrought without any good reason, the sequels to The Darkness that Comes Before are less polished. With all the wonders of the world around them, the writing sticks too closely to characters, which tend to be quite uniform and monomaniac in how they think. His names (Conphas, Proyas, Ikurei) fit the setting, tonally speaking, but they sound like crap tbqh. Minor things, if you can get past the grayish uninspired prose.

[Anonymous No.16718576]

>>16718190
No I'm a martial artist that understands that stage combat isn't real.

[Anonymous No.16718599]

>>16718564
yeah, I get that. It's not something I get anymore like I did when I was a kid, either, but it's something I can sort of fall into. It also depends on my mood, so it can see-saw.

[Anonymous No.16718611]

>>16717082
>You wouldn't drop a sword unless you don't know how to hold it.
do a lot of sword-fighting, do you?

[Anonymous No.16718623]

>>16716998
If I remember correctly, Wolodyjowski is actually the greatest swordsman in the *entire* Commonwealth. Kmicic later says that, if he knew who Wolodyjowski was, he would never have fought him.

[Anonymous No.16718640]

>>16717050
I like Orthos A LOT but it was clear he was forgotten in Wintersteel until the ass-end. Meh, two chapters across two books? Fuck that.

[Anonymous No.16718694]

>>16718611
Yes I have taken a bunch of martial arts. I'll allow that a strike to the weapon hand itself could possibly disarm but there aren't any styles where you're taught the move that flings your opponent's sword away into the bushes.

[Anonymous No.16718721]

>>16716558
Sounds neat, picked up

[Anonymous No.16718737]

>>16718694
>that flings your opponent's sword away into the bushes.
well, I'll give you that. but that's a bit more than just "disarm"

[Anonymous No.16718742]

>>16716787
>The protagonists in The Wheel of Time sure are great friends
Do they even know each other?
After they split up, and the story turns into a slog. I feel like there are years between they see each other.

[Anonymous No.16718760]

>>16718694
The film is in a weird position where, though its trying to be as realistic as possible, its also adapting a novel which is, for better or worse, a heavily romanticized depiction of the time period. That's why you have a fairly unrealistic disarming in a fairly realistic duel; the disarming is taken directly from the book, and is therefore supposed to be larger than life, unrealistic, etc. In my opinion, it works to the film's favor--it helps those romanticized moments stand out more--but to each his own, I guess.

[Anonymous No.16718773]

>>16716024
>The Deluge

Fuck, this just reminds me I need to re-watch Born for the Saber one of these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqf5vuJqQv0

[Anonymous No.16718775]

>>16718564
probably voodoo since i abstain from neither and still get genuine excitement pretty regularly

[Anonymous No.16718786]

>>16713979
>>decide to celebrate by destroying the house her grandfather gave you
>>friends rape all the village children with your consent
>>kill all the villagers after they kill your friends
uh...

[Anonymous No.16718789]

>>16712844
>someone I've friended on Good Reads is reading Alien Earth
>synopsis is interesting enough and I like his reviews
>it's taking him ages to get through it

[Anonymous No.16718799]

>relying on reviews to determine if a book is worth reading
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.16718810]

>>16718789
I don't know where the problem is?

[Anonymous No.16718889]

>>16715302
Really sad when you realize that Daemon was playing Rhaenyra her entire life all for the opportunity for him to sit on the throne

[Anonymous No.16719144]

>>16718564
do you think you're depressed?
i ask because i've been less depressed than normal lately (after making a lot of changes in my life) and i've been getting that feeling more often

[Anonymous No.16719158]

>>16718760
I realize I'm being overly critical... Deluge's scene is a good sword fight. I hadn't seen it before so thanks.
I still prefer Rob Roy's duel but I also have severe issues with the way it ended. Like the guy who's fighting style is all about bodily awareness and agility suddenly can't figure out what to do.
(I'm sure you've seen it before but in case anyone hasn't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERmM5l2ceoY

[Anonymous No.16719177]

>>16715103
It wasn't, it was probably third when he went to some british army museum or something looking for missing angleton and then got transported to another dimension, and...*gasp* evil nazzzzzzis!!!!

[Anonymous No.16719185]

>>16715610
What have you read so far?

[Anonymous No.16719227]

>>16714647
>>16714680
>>16714999
>>16717050

I quote liked Lindons fight with that older dude with stone staff, I think the way it was presented especially from enemys perspective and how he got surprised and owned by some young lad was excelent. I wish this kind of situation would feature more in cradle books and generally be used more by all writers.

[Anonymous No.16719760]

Are you ready for Shallan's Archive: Rhythm of Bipolar Disease?

[Anonymous No.16719890]

>>16719760
I'm ready for Venli's Great Escape, Making Urithiru Great Again, and the inevitable shitshow of Shallan and Adolin crashing Lasting Integrity.
So everyone agrees that Kelsier is leading the Ghostbloods as Thaidakar, yes?

[Anonymous No.16719907]

>>16719227
I liked that a lot too, peppered throughout. Nice way to see what enemies think as well as little lore drops.
>>16719890
As who
If they've worldhopped, then it isn't Kelsier

[Anonymous No.16719928]

Are there any examples of swords and magic being used outside of medieval fantasy and actually making sense?

[Anonymous No.16719991]

>>16719928
>making sense
>magic

Can only think of Star Wars, but there's no sound in space, so...

[Anonymous No.16719999]

>>16719907
>If they worldhopped it isn't Kelsier
What makes you say that? He most likely has a physical body, assuming that Scadrial is somewhere around the end of Era 3 and the start of Era 4 it's not unreasonable to assume they could have used advanced tech to try and establish a stormlight trading empire on Roshar, via the cognitive realm or otherwise.

[Anonymous No.16720029]

>>16719991
You know what I mean. In the sense that magic and swords would be completely outclassed by guns and modern weapons. The only other example I can think of is Warhammer 40k. Honorable mention would be Harry Potter since it's a school and he had to dig one up, but in other situations he'd probably take on the Basilisk with a gun.

[Anonymous No.16720043]

>>16719999
Kelsier has never worldhopped, as per WoB

[Anonymous No.16720060]

>>16720029
Dune, sort of.

[Anonymous No.16720088]

>>16720043
He could be splitting hairs to hide his intent. And as I was implying, with a sufficiently tech-advanced Scadrial existing in the current Stormlight timeline space ships are a distinct possibility.

[Anonymous No.16720141]

>>16720088
I didn't know I wanted Space Captain Kelsier until now although I don't see it happening because Hoid is MC of future Scadrial + Kelsier and Hoid do not like each other

[Anonymous No.16720158]

>>16720141
All the more reason for the latter to fuck off to the other end of the cosmere imo.

[Anonymous No.16720386]

>>16720043
That could just means that the last time we saw him he had never done it.

When is Dawnshard dropping anyway ? Any chance for a fast rip ?

[Anonymous No.16720455]

Any weird fantasy novels ala Dark Tower or Perdido Street Station? Fuck Tolkienesque.

[Anonymous No.16720462]

>>16720455
library at mount char

[Anonymous No.16720467]

>>16720462
Read it, didn't like it. Too many casual namedrops of fantastical things without experiencing them.

[Anonymous No.16720474]

>>16720455
Mask of the Sorcerer but Library at Mount Char is closer to urban fantasy.

[Anonymous No.16720475]

>>16720455
viriconium

[Anonymous No.16720477]

Are there any fantasy writers that supported Franco?

[Anonymous No.16720478]

>>16720455
Iron Dragon's Daughter

[Anonymous No.16720510]

>>16720478
>The recent slew of interchangeable Fantasy trilogies has hit me in much the same way that discovering that the woods I used to play in as a child have been cut down to make way for shoddy housing developments did.
Holy fucking based. Getting this.

[Anonymous No.16720534]

>>16720478
I hated this. From the writing to all that stupid edge. Still, pretty weird but in a lol random sodomite fairies ass fucking a vampire while some elf snorts cocaine from a troll's asscrack.

[Anonymous No.16720652]

>>16720386
It's going out to backers late tonight/early tomorrow. Can't speak to when someone might upload it.

[Anonymous No.16720744]

This one apologizes
This one refuses to have sex
This one refuses to develop as a character other than Bing Bing Wahoo levelups

[Anonymous No.16720785]

>>16714756
Thats the first mentioned Bakker here.

But yeah I’ve seen the changing 4chan tides regarding Bakker and even Wolfe: old favorites turned sour cause their growing popularity. Whatever. Second apocs still dope

[Anonymous No.16720949]

>>16718742
That's what it feels like, but no, according to the author it's just months. That's what I hate about many of these books. Stories that should take years and feel like that, take place mere in mere months. It feels so unrealistic and what's even the point of saying everything takes place during such a short time?

[Anonymous No.16720976]

Trullion by Jack Vance. I’ve read maybe 12 or 13 Vance novels and I’ve enjoyed every single one of them

[Anonymous No.16720984]

>>16716558
Just read the sample, shits pretty comfy

[Anonymous No.16720998]

>>16715567
Tower of Babylon is still the most conflicting short I've read. I just couldn't be satisfied with the ending. I get it, but just didnt feel satisfying enough

[Anonymous No.16721001]

>>16720534
You sound so much like a triggered /pol/tard, I find it hard to believe you actually aren't looking for yet another reskinned tolkienesque pseudotrad nonsense.
>I want weird
>oh wai not TOO weird
>it's gotta be weird, but in a way that's inoffensive and comfy for me
tl;dr you seem like some gigantic pseud bitch nigga

[Anonymous No.16721054]

Shouldn't you have grown out of genre fiction already?

[Anonymous No.16721071]

>>16721054
>gave up on litfic because I got fed up of being bummed out by adultery
feelsgoodman

[Anonymous No.16721143]

>>16721054
>shouldn't you stop enjoying things because an arbitrary amount of time has passed?
Why?

[Anonymous No.16721269]

>>16720455
>Tolkienesque

Speaking of which, are there any fantasy books that use the term in a "make a story heavily inspired by Christianity" sort of way than rather than a "big bloated epic fantasy adventure" sort of way?

I remember getting recs for C.S. Lewis the last time I asked this question but the /sffg/ thread I asked the question on was quickly deleted before I could check for more possible replies.

[Anonymous No.16721300]

>>16721269
Does the Left Behind series count? I feel like past a certain (read: broadly appealing to mainstream) point the only fiction that would draw heavily from Christianity would be Christian novels.

[Anonymous No.16721319]

>>16721269
The Stand by King, but not sure if it's really fantasy. It's hard to place in a genre.

[Anonymous No.16721347]

>>16720455
In WoT, a man's skin is snatched away from him in an instant. As in, all of his skin as a completely intact sack of flesh.

This does not kill him and the results are not painless.

I'm only about halfway through the series and it's pretty fucking weird is what I'm saying. I know it's covers get a lot of flack, but I don't think you could actually sum up even a fraction of the bizarre, unstable shit that goes on this series.

One assassination attempt in Book 2 is almost indescribably gonzo in its impact. It's just such a weird way to try and kill someone in any genre.

[Anonymous No.16721415]

>>16721001
Huh? Lots of assumptions based on nothing. You sound so much like a retard.
Who do you think I am? I'm not looking for anything. I was commenting on that shitty book.
A book can be weird without piling up transgressive crap interspersed with twisted genre conventions. The orgies with drugs and random fairy tale races are real. The MC almost gets raped by a troll when she's working in a factory and abused nonstop. The magic comes from sexual energy, and it's used to carry out scientific experiments.

Perdido Street Station was fairly mediocre but miles above that shitty book. It was so bad it will be a long time before I touch anything by Swanswick again.

[Anonymous No.16721431]

whats the best short story anthology for fantasy, not sci fi
mature shit that deals with death and has stakes and is NOT written for women

[Anonymous No.16721448]

>>16721431
>written for women
What is this buzzword?

[Anonymous No.16721452]

>>16721448
give me recs or stfu

[Anonymous No.16721460]

>>16721452
Don't be such a hysterical dweeb and I might.

[Anonymous No.16721470]

>>16721460
give rec or stfu

[Anonymous No.16721496]

>>16721460
>>16721470
Stop it you two. Get a room or we throw you to the hounds.
>>16721054
Everything is genre fiction. Except for maybe Illuminatus!

[Anonymous No.16721590]

Got one audible credit left. What's the best sff audio book I could buy? I've been reading historical fiction, so I'd prefer sci-fi for a change of pace, but I'm not against a really good fantasy book as long as it contains a good deal of magic and it doesn't just feel like a historical fiction novel in a made up world.

[Anonymous No.16721592]

Just finished the powder mage trilogy. I really liked it first book series i read back to back in years. Though the third book fell a bit flat I was getting ready for Taniel&Tamas confrontation over what Taniel wants and what his father wants him to do culminating with Tamas realizing Taniel has his own path to lead. But they kind of just drop it. Also felt a bit weird how in the third book Taniel pov just disappeared and it was back to Tamas and Adamat. Also while I love Ka-poel her powers felt like a walking deus ex and isn't really explained though I love her voodoo powers. Also felt it was a miss opportunity that she doesn't really interact with anyone but Taniel.

[Anonymous No.16721606]

>>16721592
those covers are bad
really bad

[Anonymous No.16721629]

>>16719760
Apparently the novella just started going out to backers of that kickstarter. Not sure when it will be on stores.
Would #bookz be the first place it shows up?

[Anonymous No.16721688]

What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.16721884]

Why does SFFG sleep on the Culture series? Player of Games is better than 90% of what gets played in these threads

[Anonymous No.16721896]

:^)

[Anonymous No.16721904]

>>16721896
more like dawnshart

[Anonymous No.16721910]

>>16721896
What is Dawnshard even about?

[Anonymous No.16721927]

>>16721884
SFFG sleeps on science fiction.

[Anonymous No.16721942]

What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.16721953]

>>16713137
It's a meme. The hook is a lie and he doesn't give a shit about the quest. Not to mention the quality of prose is not what was promised (if anything could be).

[Anonymous No.16721966]

>>16714133
I'd give it a 6. Not that flawed, but not a lot going on. A little better than average.

I also haven't gotten to the next book and am doubting that I should.

[Anonymous No.16721977]

>>16715451
I dropped it there when it became apparent this wasn't going to be an action series. I have no faith in the authors ability to write political intrigue after the first novel.

[Anonymous No.16721987]

>>16717857
You like it in retrospect, but during it lacked drive.

[Anonymous No.16721991]

>>16718564
I think the bigger issue is that too many books are going the "along for the ride" route and not the "hook em on page one" route.

[Anonymous No.16721996]

>>16713137
Fantastic series that pushes what literature is. It gives you enough information to have a solid picture of exactly what's happening and yet he writes it in such a way that no two people will picture it to be anywhere close to similar.

If you're going in expecting something like Lord of The Rings where it's "Here's what happened, how it happened, who it happened to, and how they all reacted and solved the problems" then you're definitely going to be disappointed. It's literature as art more than anything else, and I'm honestly disgusted that the other responses you got are saying it's anything short of a masterpiece. Though I'm certainly not saying it's perfect. It absolutely has issues in a narrative sense.

[Anonymous No.16722000]

>>16715545

You like PKD and Jorge Borges eh? Dangerous Visions by Harlan Ellison. Riders of the Purple Wage ought be worth your admission alone with its concept of a universal basic income fuck your mommy state post triple revolution. You get a real neat sense of who these writers were in comparison to each other, each story has a foreword written about the author and Asimov gets to talk mad shit about Ellison by writing a foreword for the collection himself!

[Anonymous No.16722016]

>>16721942
Is it true that you can't judge a book by it's cover?

[Anonymous No.16722026]

Are there any self published fantasy novels that I should read, /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.16722029]

>>16720029
Powder Mage seems to be on the cusp of replacing classical mages with gun magicians.
However it seems to be the case that classic magic is superior, just not in a warzone scenario where you can get sniped (no teleportation magic).

Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei is fairly superman esque (and the translations get shit) but it's about automating aspects of technology using computers, often in the shape of guns.

[Anonymous No.16722035]

>>16720386
>>16720652
It's been going out to backers over the last few hours. Nothing on IRC yet though.

[Anonymous No.16722060]

>>16721910
Short novel about Rysn tripping to Aimia and something about the Lopen between OB and RoW.

[Anonymous No.16722074]

I've been getting into reading again recently, I re-read Journey to the Center of the Earth by Jules Verne. I bought a couple more of his adventure books to read, but i'd like some recommendations on 'inside the earth' books. I love that shit. Hollow earth, alternative societies hidden from the known earth societies, etc

[Anonymous No.16722076]

So I've been playing the Legacy of Kain games again and it has me on a vampire kick. Any recommended books with well written vampire characters in them?

[Anonymous No.16722079]

>>16721996
>in such a way that no two people will picture it to be anywhere close to similar
This sounds irrelevant or negative leaning.

[Anonymous No.16722080]

>>16712923
>the Jesus Shart

Lm@o

[Anonymous No.16722088]

at the risk of being that guy, anyone who backed the KS willing to share their ebook copy of Sanderson's Dawnshard? don't want to wait for this bitch to be commercially available

[Anonymous No.16722100]

>>16722060
It's been a while but the first bit sounds wildly Cosmere-important.
I sure don't get excited for this shit like I used to a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.16722146]

>>16722079
Then you should probably stick to a more concrete narrative. The first half of that sentence is pretty important, and the fact that you left it out leads me to believe that you've already decided to hate it regardless of what I say anyway or that nothing I say will convince you because you're just not wired to think that way. The entire point of the book is that it opens up your imagination and your mind's eye. It's not presenting you a store, it's not presenting you a narrative. It's basically presenting you a prompt so you can imagine this world it creates. It presents a completely alien world and lets you interpret what it actually looks like. You never feel like you don't have enough information, and you never feel like you're being dicked around or that the writer just left shit out because "What you imagine is more interesting than what I could think up!" like so many horror writers do. It's an experience more than anything. He gives you enough to form a coherent image, yet leaves out enough that you're still able to interpret it. It can make you question your perception of reality. You go into it with your knowledge of the world and expect the book to fit that like every other book you've ever read. It gives you just enough to make you keep that presupposition, Only it doesn't quite fit that, so now you have to decide if your perception is wrong or if reality is wrong.

I don't want to repeat myself, but again, it's pretty much literature as art. It's one of the only books I've read that actually pushes the medium.

Like try describing the color red. Most people would say that it's a hot or warm color. But that's working backwards. You know red's hot because of fire and heated metal and sunsets. Would a blind person think that red equals hot? Even from your point of view, white and blue can both be hot if you look at open flames. In the same way, Book of the New Sun is like describing color to a blind person.

[Anonymous No.16722242]

>>16712844
I just want a decent fantasy adventure book with some action and romance.
Is that too much to ask?

[Anonymous No.16722300]

>>16722146
Firstly, I read the book.
Secondly I don't think the descriptions were unclear. But I am saying this genius special sauce you seem to think the writing has doesn't exist.

And what you further describe sounds an awful lot like a setting without a story.

I felt like was there was a compelling back story and it was not addressed, and he was given a quest which he did not participate in. The whole book seems like a string of side quests with every promise reneged on. The world was fine, it was explored just fine, but he never got around to the point and nothing was tied in. Perhaps in the sequels it turns out that these were integral steps and everything gets tied in, but I'm not sending good time after bad.

[Anonymous No.16722355]

>>16721592
You're absolutely right about Ka-Poel being way too powerful without any good explanation. I also felt like, after setting up Taniel as the first of his kind uber-powder mage, he really never got a particularly interesting usage of it.

[Anonymous No.16722364]

>>16722242
try harry potter

[Anonymous No.16722378]

how long does it take you guys to read a 400 page book

[Anonymous No.16722387]

>>16722378
six to seven hours

[Anonymous No.16722457]

>>16722378
like two weeks or so. i really need to learn to read faster

[Anonymous No.16722464]

>>16722364
>>adventure
Try reading next time.

[Anonymous No.16722466]

>>16721896
anon pls

[Anonymous No.16722485]

>>16722300
filtered

[Anonymous No.16722536]

what are some good pure political intrigue scifi or fantasy books? little action but a lot of politics and stuff, kind of like the original foundation trilogy

[Anonymous No.16722715]

>>16722146
Good sensible post. It's precisely this wisdom which drove the anons of yore to meme BotNS.
>>16722300
>Secondly I don't think the descriptions were unclear.
Bullshit. You have no idea what the cockpit where Gurloes worked looked like. You and I didn't picture Vodalus "impossible" pistol the same way. You have no idea what a flamberge in that world is like. A destrier is probably not a regular horse or even a war horse. A huge portion of the descriptions is done through allusion.
>he never got around to the point and nothing was tied in. Perhaps in the sequels it turns out that these were integral steps and everything gets tied in, but I'm not sending good time after bad
No idea what you mean by sequels (Long Sun? Or Claw of the Conciliator?), but it's troubling. All told, it's a 1200-1500 page long book. Lots of fantasy series don't cover the ground BotNS does or make sense after thousands of pages.
Severian says he's become the Autarch and the 4 books show his progress. Almost every character he meets or befriends has some sort or closure.
What's that nonsense about how he's given a quest he doesn't participate in? In the 5th book, he literally brings about a new fucking sun, which was hinted at since the beginning (it's a circular narrative). The world is flooded, he goes back in time and the cycle begins anew.
Borges said something about how the best books involve a metanarrative. The author writes something, the reader interprets it. A regular book will leave you with a nice story which has an ending. Maybe some plotholes. That's the full extent of your active role. A metanarrative makes the reader tell and retell the story how he sees fit. He belongs to that world and can revisit it under any light that he fancies. That's the best part of The Book of the New Sun, and most Gene Wolfe really.
I'll have to agree. You got filtered. Nothing wrong with that. It's worth reading if you want to read something that, according to a lot of people, broke the mold. To check out for yourself instead of trusting the opinions of guys who probably got it all wrong (as suggested by your take on the quest and your overconfidence in how well you got the descriptions).
It's not a book for everyone. I read in some intro that certain readers have a "Wolfe gene" (pun probably intended), and that if you like it, there is nothing quite like it in any genre.

[Anonymous No.16722957]

>>16712844
currently reading some old Asimov's magazines right now

[Anonymous No.16722963]

>>16722242
Worry not. I'm writing it right now

[Anonymous No.16722976]

>>16721415
>book is shitty because it has a lot of sex that doesn't turn me on
>calls others retards

[Anonymous No.16722982]

>>16721452
>>16721431
you're moms diary desu

[Anonymous No.16723149]

Reading Spiderlight by Adrian Tchaikovsky coming off of Children of Time, and oh my fucking this guy has a spider fetish.

The girl in the main cast everyone lusts after ends up fucking the spider shaped into a humanoid by the group wizard, and the guy obsessed with her walks in on them and tries to kill him. This book is hilarious, though mostly unintentionally.

[Anonymous No.16723397]

I can't lie to myself anymore bros, I love Abercrombie so much. Haven't plowed through nine books in such a short time in a long time.

[Anonymous No.16723922]

>>16722355
>>16721592
Kae-Poels powers are elaborated on in the sequel trilogy, which is in my opinion better than the first trilogy for the most part. Granted the final book is a letdown, Mclellan seems to have trouble wrapping up his stories.

[Anonymous No.16723962]

>>16722355
>You're absolutely right about Ka-Poel being way too powerful without any good explanation.
I heard the sequel trilogy explains her powers
>after setting up Taniel as the first of his kind uber-powder mage
I guess its because he was dead set on a trilogy and since Taniel story was pretty much done he decided to focus on everyone else. Though everyone elses story other than Nila was also pretty much done too. Tamas didn't really learn anything other than he's too old for this shit qne now that i think about it he didn't go through really meaningful development in the trilogy other than the feint realization that he set off a proverbial powder keg that will cause more death and destruction all across the continent in the future. He doubled down even after the realization that he was wrong and instead of high tailing back to the capital he wanted to kill more kez which was unnecessary and he didn't really bother understanding his son though he was cool with Taniel having a relationship with Ka-poel.

[Anonymous No.16724079]

About halfway through Wife Mans Fear. I absolutely cannot take it anymore. This is shit, through and through.
For every one chapter that is actually interesting, we get 2-3 chapters of Denna bullshit, or 2-3 chapters of Auri bullshit, or 2-3 chapters of Kvothe moping around about Denna/Auri bullshit.

Also, it's absolutely infuriating that this is supposed to be a story that Kvothe is telling to Chronicler / Bast. He remembers so many minute details and entire conversations, way more than anyone could ever remember, even someone as clever and genius as Kvothe is written to be. Not only that, but everything is just him 1-upping someone else, and him always having the perfect witty thing to say. The entire fucking story outside of the "present time" chapters and the early stuff when he was still traveling with his Family is just "someone did something, so I did that same thing, only BETTER, and everyone clapped, and applauded, and I was raised to be the highest among all the students and they all loved me!"

The actual prose is legitimately beautiful in parts, and Rothfuss is great at painting pictures, but fuck me if the actual story isn't absolutely awful. And what's worse, I read ahead on some of the spoilers for the rest of the book and saw the "questions to be answered in book 3" and realized that, essentially, nothing will happen in book 2. He doesn't get expelled, he doesn't train with the Amyr, we don't find out anything about Dennas shadowy patron, whats behind the door, what happened to literally everyone in the story right now (Will, Sim, Fela, Denna, etc), why is he now 'kote the innkeeper', what the fuck did he do to start the war, where did bast/kvothe meet, etc etc.

Not only that, but Rothfuss has become increasingly hostile towards his fans asking when book 3 is going to be done. Dudes own editor called him out and said she hasn't seen essentially anything out of him in over 6 years. This mother fucker really had a shadow writer that left him hanging, didn't he?

Fuck Kingkiller Chronicles, and fuck Kvothe.

[Anonymous No.16724087]

>>16724079
bro unreliable narrator bro

[Anonymous No.16724106]

>>16724087
Oh I get the whole "unreliable narrator" part, which is what makes it even worse.

It's like listening to that kid in the lunch hall when you're 15 talking about how awesome he is in every way. Except in book form. The problem is there's legitimately interesting chapters every 5 or so chapters that keep you going wondering just wtf the endgame is and how it all wraps up, but there's just so much shit in there that I really don't think it's worth it in retrospect.

[Anonymous No.16724130]

dawnshard is up for DL

[Anonymous No.16724165]

>>16724079
They say to write what you know. For some people that means writing about student loans and getting friendzoned.

[Anonymous No.16724224]

Things that piss me off: Blurbs that give me absolutely no information regarding what the book is about. So many books have synopses that tell me absolutely nothing about the story, it's just some vague shit that sounds like it's the script for a movie trailer. You can practically hear the BWAAAAAAAAAHs as you read it.

[Anonymous No.16724401]

>>16724224
Edith Shadow was satisfied with his life: A simple peasant's life, living off the land. It's hard, backbreaking work, but he still finds himself wishing everyday he could get back to those simpler times.
One day, the farm was attacked by the most fantastical creature Edith has ever seen...

[Anonymous No.16724412]

>>16724079
>>16724087
>this is supposed to be a story that Kvothe is telling to Chronicler / Bast
What was the point of this, again? It's never used to any effect, that I can recall

Kvothe never offers comments on his past actions (with hindsight)
It's told with the detail of a common 1st person point of view. Also entirely linear, lmao.
The past and the present is so disconnected, Kvothe may as well not be the same person.
Was it really necessary just to let us know something bad will happen?

[Anonymous No.16724420]

>>16724412
it's in order to hint at the ending right off the bat and never give the answer to how it happens, keeping you in suspense. I still liked the books as teenager, so they get a pass

[Anonymous No.16724446]

rec for anything to read on the weekend?
Something nice and simple

[Anonymous No.16724498]

Sanderson book 4 leak when?

[Anonymous No.16724506]

>>16724446
imma read elric of melnibone
Starting at #1 of the saga is the start yes? I see on wikipedia there's a lot of short stories of him

[Anonymous No.16724520]

>>16724079
it's a story about the self insert of a fat loser, not sure why you're even reading it in the first place

[Anonymous No.16724529]

>>16724520
because I am a fat loser

[Anonymous No.16724547]

>>16724412
>Kvothe never offers comments on his past actions (with hindsight)
This is one of my biggest issues. At most he'll have some vague 1 line of hindsight but even then it's generic as fuck like "i thought i knew everything, but I didn't".
>It's told with the detail of a common 1st person point of view. Also entirely linear, lmao.
Yup, even if he were embellishing or making up most of what he's saying, it's still insane to think that anyone short of a literal god with omniscience could retell their story as he does. And he does it, like everything else he does, wonderfully, without much time to prep, and all off the cusp of his brain.
>The past and the present is so disconnected, Kvothe may as well not be the same person.
>Was it really necessary just to let us know something bad will happen?
The other thing is that he's running out of actual time to tell this stuff. Not in the book sense of "oh he's only got 1 more book to wrap it all up" but in terms of the actual story and universe that the story takes place in. He's in his mid 20s at best when he's Kote, and he's like 17 at the halfway point in Wise Mans Fear.

I just really, really, really don't give two flying fucks about Denna and that's what a majority of the story is about, unfortunately. Also I think it's fairly clear what's going to happen - Denna is going to find a new Patron that happens to be tied in with the king, somehow the King and Denna are going to fall in love, Kvothe is going to be pissed and go all black-eyed and ends up killing the King.

[Anonymous No.16724560]

>>16724520
Because I've seen it listed as one of the best modern fantasy novels / series, and I wanted to see what the hype was all about?
The first book is legitimately good and isn't that bogged down with nonsense, but the second book is an absolute joyless slog

[Anonymous No.16724573]

>>16724420
It just reeks of Rothfus having a clever idea about a gimmick for how to tell his story; it being a recited autobiography
But as he wrote the book, it developed/changed and got fatter. There didn't remain a reason for it being told so.

As I recall. The main thing to take away from present Kvothe. Is that past Kvothe definitively will get expelled from the school at some point? That's fine, that's setting up suspense.
But I cannot recall any other points of note, and that's a problem.

Wolfe uses a lot of gimmicks like that, the story being an autobiography/diary, a huge-ass letter, a memoir. Stuff like that.
But his style of story telling is always used to effect, for plot points and plot twists. While also utilizing the opportunity skip over the boring parts, and have multiple voices on a situation, past and present.

Made me really appreciate tricks you can do with a fictional character writing out an autobiography or diary

[Anonymous No.16724626]

>kingkiller chronicles
>don't kill any kings
uhhh, rothfuss???

[Anonymous No.16724635]

>>16724420
>>16724573
>>16724547
To expand on it being a story being told - what's the actual point?
Where will it go?
It won't be satisfying at ALL if Kvothe just finishes recalling his life up until the point where he met Chronicler on the road. There has to be /something/ that happens after we catch back up to the current time.

There's just so much left to do in that small tiny period of time he has left both in terms of the story and the actual book length itself, that there's absolutely no way h can have it come to anything resembling a satisfying ending.

[Anonymous No.16724757]

Dawnshard mega when?

[Anonymous No.16724783]

>>16724635
hmmm
best I can imagine for anything satisfying with present Kvothe, is him going: Actually I'm not THAT depressed anymore, and now feel like doing some magic and living life more again, maybe leave to look for his GF
and that's not very satisfying

[Anonymous No.16725000]

Dawnshard was a fun little cosmere-heavy romp. Fair bit of lore dump that just makes me even more hype for the seeming cosmere-centric arcs materializing in RoW.

[Anonymous No.16725025]

>>16721896
>>16722060
>>16722100
>>16725000
Imagine being so shitty of an author, that you write overly long and stretched out, thousand page books to your satisfy your autism, but still need to make supplemental material to explain it all because you suck so bad at actually writing.

[Anonymous No.16725042]

>>16725025
>imagine needing more than one book to describe the history and mechanics of an entire universe

[Anonymous No.16725047]

I can't do it anymore the stormlight archives is a excellent series but I don't have the patience to read over a thousand pages including intervals. I had to put the book down when i caught myself intentionally skipping the chapters and interlude in oathbrigner to get back to Kaladin. Call me weak and pathetic i know i am.

[Anonymous No.16725125]

>>16725047
Get the audio books. They help getting through the early Shalan nonsense and any of the duller chapters.

[Anonymous No.16725186]

>>16722963
Don't quit, everyone is depending on you.

[Anonymous No.16725266]

>>16725025
Stormlight really is him just entertaining his own autism isn't it? There's no real reason that those books need to be so insanely long, you can easily chop out a solid 1/3rd of them and not miss a beat.

His other books, the Mistborns and what not, are much tighter and flow so much better. They're not perfect by any means, might not even be considered 'good' by most metrics, but they're far better than what he's doing with Stormlight.

I get what he's doing with Stormlight - he wants to, essentially, hold the record for the largest fantasy series of all time. And it's got some neat ideas in it. But cmon man, chop that shit down. No one needs a SIXTY FOUR HOUR audio book for a single novel.

[Anonymous No.16725274]

>>16721977
Filtered

[Anonymous No.16725313]

>>16724130
>dawnshard is up for DL
Wh-where?

[Anonymous No.16725369]

>>16725313
Nevermind, I'm retarded. Let this post remembers my stupidity.

[Anonymous No.16725392]

Finally got around to reading the Lyonesse trilogy. It's good! They are the kind of books that raise the game for what to expect for the whole genre. Vance is a master of unifying style and theme, which in my view, is the thing that tends to distinguish great fantasy writers from the merely OK ones.

His decision to ground the trilogy in a pseudo-historical setting was what put me off reading them for so long, but he manages to conjure enough distance between the world of the books and the 'real world' in which they are set to make that a non-issue for me. His ability to realise the 'antastic imagination of the Dark Ages and the Matters as a magical world unto itself, bridging the space between the enchanted past and the modern present, is undeniably impressive, and it gave the whole trilogy a level of thematic deepness that makes it deserving of the title of literature.

[Anonymous No.16725412]

>>16723149
It's kinda shit. It's basically a few chapters of generic fantasy world building, then the villain turns out to be exactly what you think, he gets killed by the marty stu spider and then it just abruptly ends with a poorly thought out ending that for instance disregards the fact that despite the big bad being dead, the party's still behind enemy lines and the guy who could take them through the path past the armies is dead so the IMMA CHANGE EVERYTHING IN CHARGE LMAO is hollow and retarded.

[Anonymous No.16725486]

>>16725047
If it makes you skip and bored it's not excellent, the fuck? Stop being so pathetic and state your actual opinion, it's a boring shitty book to you.

[Anonymous No.16725566]

>>16714030
>interdimensional elf asylum seekers
That sounds hilarious, is it worth reading for the lulz or is it just plain cringe?

[Anonymous No.16725585]

Any kind shitpostspren willing to drop Dawnshard PDF?

[Anonymous No.16725649]

>>16712874
>The new Undying Mercenaries book is out, Edge World.
I'll wait till the audio book comes out in December, Mark Boyett usually does a good job narrating Larson's books.

[Anonymous No.16725723]

>eagerly waiting to read a Brandon Sanderson book
Do you guys get this excited when a new super hero movie comes out?

[Anonymous No.16725731]

>>16725723
I like Sanderson but do not like superheros. You wouldn't be so pissy about him if he didn't sell so well.

[Anonymous No.16725735]

>>16725671
calling tech support please

[Anonymous No.16725759]

>>16725735
none

[Anonymous No.16725933]

>>16725566
The series isn't that cringe for the most part and kind of fun if you like some contemporary fantasy with niggerman cosmic entities and such.
It goes pretty deep into the "magic is just programming and mathematics" meme if that puts you off. It does get much worse when he suddenly drops the main character in some books.
This nazi thing the other anon mentioned didn't even bother me that much. Just felt like a joke on the nazi moon base conspiracies.
You can tell how Stross became increasingly more woke over the books though and the elf thing is in one of the latter ones.
Overall a fun read in my opinion and the autistic elf girl is a qt

[Anonymous No.16725988]

Am I a bad person for being endlessly entertained by self-published reddit authors being eternally upset at Sanderson's success?

[Anonymous No.16725997]

>>16725731
He has the dubious honor of writing the worst action sequence I've ever read and that was in the very prologue of WoK.
>You're just being contrarian because he's highly popular.
The mental powers of Sandersonfags as limited as usual. Up was down. Right was left. Love was cringe. Wit was actually mental retardation.

[Anonymous No.16726001]

>>16725988
No.
I frequent r/fantasywriters/ specifically to make myself feel better about my writing because HOO BOY the people there are absolutely clueless.

[Anonymous No.16726060]

>>16714030
>I found the first books to be a fun guilty pleasure
I agree, it wad a kind of spy thriller meets occult Lovecraft schlock that was a fun read, plus the book cover of the mass market paperback still gives me a chuckle and is why I picked it up in the first place. I don't know why but I couldn't even ironically enjoy the next couple of sequels and dropped the series, oh well.

[Anonymous No.16726205]

>>16726001
I mean the only way to get better is too keep writing right?

[Anonymous No.16726805]

I've not been so thoroughly sucked in by a book since I was a child. Lost time is a thematic path well worn, by many great writers. Grimwood isn't one of these, his prose and dialogue often comes out clumsy. But the emotional core of Replay is a rich tapestry of love and loss. There is no subtlety. It is simple, direct and earnest.

I do have a few nitpicks though
-The first third of the book often feels more masturbatory than it needs to, and is overladen with cultural references
-The justification for why Pamela chose to finish highschool was really, really flimsy.
-I think the ending could have been refined into something much more memorable

[Anonymous No.16726842]

>>16725266
>he listens to audiobooks
No wonder you think the books can be arbitrarily shortened.

[Anonymous No.16726849]

>>16725723
No, I like books far more than movies :^)

[Anonymous No.16726856]

I'm almost done Since We Fell by Dennis Lehane, and goddamn is it a wild ride

[Anonymous No.16726888]

Anyone here like any of the rest of Joe Haldeman's oeuvre? I read The Forever War and wasn't particularly taken by it.

I liked the idea of relativistic practicalities of interstellar war, but the premise wasn't really explored well enough in my estimation, and his visions of future human society really strained my suspension of disbelief. I mean, come on--you can regrow limbs and perform all kinds of future bio-tech wonders, but the only way to effect birth control is to make everyone gay? It was too much an absurdity for me.

I haven't come across much in the way of positive reaction/rating to the rest of his works, but if anyone enjoyed them and wants to make a case for one, I'm receptive to hearing it.

[Anonymous No.16726964]

>>16725585
>shitpostspren
ke[le]k

[Anonymous No.16726972]

>>16726001
To be fair they are a bunch of Teenage ESL'ers.

[Anonymous No.16727248]

Dawnshard is now downloadable GO GO GO

[Anonymous No.16727272]

>>16727248
From where though?

[Anonymous No.16727303]

>>16727272
Only the best place to pirate books in the entire internet
https://b-ok.lat/book/6139940/6e6f20

[Anonymous No.16727442]

>>16727248
>sandershit
Don't call us, we'll call you.

[Anonymous No.16727456]

CHAIR
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[Anonymous No.16727502]

>>16727442
>stop liking what I don't like reeeeeee

[Anonymous No.16727518]

>>16727456
I dreaded a novel featuring Lopen might come out worse than Lift's, but I found his PoV's to be fairly charming.

[Anonymous No.16727547]

>>16726001
every other post is
>pls help! So im making this story with a badass high schooler who is also secretly the demon king, but the demon king isnt a demon at all! Hes actually the high schooler. Does this magic system work?

[Anonymous No.16727581]

>>16713892
I’m reading that also.
It’s pretty good.

[Anonymous No.16727606]

>>16727581
Same here. It's reminding me of the Shadowmancer series

[Anonymous No.16727619]

>>16721431
bump for non-butthurt recs

[Anonymous No.16727716]

>>16712847
Look at the author, he clearly won't be breeding, so he passed his cringe onto his literary creations instead.

[Anonymous No.16727738]

>>16727619
Her Body and Other Parties

[Anonymous No.16727749]

>>16714084
Its cute. If you do any sort of tech work, you will be intrigued by the problem solving he goes through. Its almost a lit turn based strategy game as opposed to a LITRPG. read the free sample and that will inform if you will like the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.16727885]

>>16725047
>>16725125
The graphic audio books work well for thus series because having different voice actors lets you lose focus in the blah parts.

[Anonymous No.16728008]

>>16716558
I’m about half way through and I’m loving it.

[Anonymous No.16728057]

Give me a good scary book fitlit.

[Anonymous No.16728063]

>>16728057
oh fuck, I mean /sffg/. Sorry, I want to be spooked.

[Anonymous No.16728174]

>>16727442
You don't choose to worship the Sandergod, you just read him and realize he's the best fantasy author around.

[Anonymous No.16728183]

>>16727518
>Dreading THE LOPEN

[Anonymous No.16728562]

aaaaaahhhhhhh this is such a great page

[Anonymous No.16728623]

>>16727502
Is there one with Erikson?

[Anonymous No.16728707]

>>16720029
The First Law. From the first book to the sequel trilogy the world moves from the Middle Ages into the beginning of the renaissance. The societal implications of stuff like explosives, canals, auto-looms etc. are touched on and the main mage in the series quickly begins to prefer using tech and political intrigue to further his goals.

[Anonymous No.16728793]

I just finished death's end and i desperately need hard scifi with some mindfuck concepts.

[Anonymous No.16728820]

>>16727502
Based Sandershit dabbing with his shit writing on the competition

[Anonymous No.16728822]

>>16728562
Fuck me, biblical prose makes me so fucking hard

[Anonymous No.16728830]

>>16726856
I mean, Lehane in general is a fantastic writer and screenwriter, but hardly /sffg/ is he?

[Anonymous No.16728836]

>>16728793
Try VanderMeer, Borne is fucking insane.

[Anonymous No.16728842]

Finally got around to reading the book of the new sun and goddamn it is good

[Anonymous No.16728844]

>>16728793
>hard scifi with some mindfuck concepts
such as

[Anonymous No.16728857]

>>16728842
I'm still the only fuck in here that argues Urth was not only necessary but better than any of the single novels in BotNS.

[Anonymous No.16728883]

>>16728844
>>16728844
Well blindsight had the idea that consciousness wasnt desired or necessary for an advanced alien intelligence.

And death's end near the end had some really fucked up weapons with the idea that the most dangerous weapon is the understanding of physics.

[Anonymous No.16728921]

>>16728883
rev space has some weird shit near the end
xeelee has a higher civilization step in whenever lower species are about to physics in the wrong direction while also having wild shit of their own

[Anonymous No.16728934]

>>16728921
Thanks anon ill add both to my list.

[Anonymous No.16728948]

>>16728934
thread is about to die
i'd advise asking in the next thread
ill go through my goodreads after sleep and see if there is anything else i can add
greg egan does a lot of abstract stuff with technology, not so much in the vein of battles though

[Anonymous No.16728960]

>>16728921
Where to start with Xeelee? I've heard the reading order is weird.

[Anonymous No.16728962]

>>16728960
i began with vacuum diagrams which is a collection of short stories then i read timelike infinity -> ring (flux and raft are supplemental). from there, go wherever

[Anonymous No.16728976]

>>16728962
cheers anon

[Anonymous No.16728979]

>>16728976
ask questions here in the future if need be

[Anonymous No.16729104]

>>16727619
Boku no Pico

[Anonymous No.16729185]

>>16720534
Sounds silly.

[Anonymous No.16729235]

>>16722378
It takes me about 3 weeks. I get pretty drained from work and then have no motivation to read.
I hate life.

[Anonymous No.16729500]

>>16721606
nah they're absolute kino you pleb

[Anonymous No.16729515]

Question to Babel bros - what the hell is Byron again? I remember everything else when I started book 3 but this fucking furfag makes me blank, is he a contraption or an actual man with a deer head?

[Anonymous No.16729554]

>>16727518
Lift is cool, reminds me a bit of Sette from Unsounded.

[Anonymous No.16729650]

I finished Dawnshard, AMA if you're too tsundere to read it day 1.

[Anonymous No.16729678]

[Anonymous No.16729690]

>>16729678
>buying the $100 printing

[Anonymous No.16730011]

Rhythm of War embargo has lifted.
Three reviews I've read/watched of it so far have all basically said the same. It's okay, there's a few really major lore implications for the cosmere as a whole that we're finally told, but boy oh boy does it drag on for 200-400 pages more than it has any right to. Two of the three reviews said it was their least favorite of the entire Stormlight so far, so take that as you will.

[Anonymous No.16730020]

>>16730011
So zero change from the previous books? All of them are too long, not sure what the surprise is.

[Anonymous No.16730040]

>>16730011
Wow, so it's like every other Sanderson book.
Good to know.

I swear, if Brandon hadn't been backed by the mormon collective, he'd be an actual fucking joke author.
The fact that Chuck Tingle has more substance in his literal taking-the-piss books, should say something.

[Anonymous No.16730061]

>>16730040
>>16730020
apparently the amount that could be / should be cut is easily double what is in the other books, and the decision to sideline most of the major characters from 1-4 in favor of the Parshendii left them kind of annoyed.

And these are from huge Sanderson fans who basically gush endlessly about his other works. They're all feeling kinda down about RoW. Is this the start of the downfall of the king of /lit/?

[Anonymous No.16730189]

>>16729678
Good choices anon. Neuropath is great.
Disciple is decent as well.
Characters in both of the books are literally just washed down versions of Kellhus though.

[Anonymous No.16730227]

>Snadesron
>King of /lit/
This isn't reddit.

He's always been shit.
A robotic narrator voice with the lack of any sort of prose that I'd consider of his own choice always makes for a bad experience.
Brenbon only writes books so that he can one day get into vidya or animu development. He genuinely shows no respect for the medium given the utter drivel he writes.

>But anon!
>His fight scenes and """"""""Magic Systems"""""""" are great!
They aren't. He's a man that says 'blow by blow combat is boring in novels' and fucking does it.
Magic systems are a fucking meme and need to die.
Imagine limiting your magic to 'It needs consequences and costs! Just like my video games!"
Imagine having to write a tutorial for your magic because you don't have faith in your readers to envision and see the magic work for themselves.

>He's got interesting characters!
Quippy female #1 through to Qiuppy female #20 isn't good character work. You can take some of the 'best' lines of dialogue from all the women in WoK, jumble them in a container, pull one out; and fucking struggle to tell who said what.
Most men have straight line character arcs; with each of Snadesron's OCs being brooding/introspective, isn't good character work. Kaladin may be an allegory for Moses, and I'm convinced Dalinar was meant to be Snadesron's pulling from Syriac accounts of Alexander the Great.
On the topic of pulling, the majority of names in SLA fucking suck too.

>His worldbuilding is the best in the business!
And Robert Jordan didn't take anything from Lord of the Rings. Nothing at all.

Snadesron's world building is so shallow that if you think about anything harder than 'Wow, that's a cool idea, moving on' it breaks. Snadesron writes books like he's pitching a video game;
Symmetrical cities are overdone, cringe pipe dreams. They exist in videogames because it's easy to navigate - other than that and poorly written fiction; you almost never see symmetrical cities anywhere else.
Fantasy currency means fucking nothing. No one cares that you have tree fiddy worth of Gems if they got stupid names.
Your main characters weapons are LITERALLY Kingdom Hearts keyblades. They are straight up pulled from a kid's game and I have no idea why this is not talked about more.

Fuck you Brenbon for making me type out this shit.
Learn to write actual books and not tomes of filler you fucking hack.

[Anonymous No.16730234]

>>16730227
Let me guess... you like Gina Wolf.

[Anonymous No.16730241]

>>16730227
How's that intellectual self-published novel coming along? Not finding the audience you were expecting?